Marriage and Motherhood- Rights and Responsibility

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I have followed this show off and on, liking it in bits and pieces because many of the threads in the show intertwine with my personal life. I got married into a family where my husband was the primary financial support of his single parent and family. I have seen how parental obsessives and wanting complete and utter control of the married child causes immense issues in the marriage at all levels..emotional, financial , name it.

This show at times makes me very happy to see some scenarios played on screen that I have faced, at times it brings great sadness, bad memories back, with a sense of despair for who so ever is going through these tough phases of life.When it becomes unbearable, I stop watching the episodes , because it reminds me too much of the bitterness I went through. But happy to say that I am much older now, with a healthy marriage and two sons of my own and am able to see life from its multiple angles and perspectives.

My husband was very much like Dev, it took him 7-8 long years to understand the need to standup for his wife and his family unit in front of rest of the family. Typical mistake he made, and one I have seen Dev making too is to consider " sab apne hai, sab mera accha sochte hain so nothing wrong can happen". WRONG. Our own people, including parents and siblings may not understand us perfectly all the time and may not want what we want. Their own egos and other motivations come into play...and some will not hesitate to use you towards their goals. It took a long time for my husband to understand this reality...by the time he understood, we had been through the worse in our marriage and it would be in shambles...except for our kids who kept our marriage concrete and going. They gave us a purpose to unite and fight for our family unit, keeping aside this my family- ur family stuff. Today I respect my husband more as father of my children because he fought for them, and theirmother to keep the respect of our family intact. That in turn paved the way for us to understand and respect each other as husband and wife all over again.

Most issues arise with- Communication. That is the one single most important thing. Timely communication, to the right person, in the right manner at the right time. That is the crux of relationships. And the second thing, is to give space. Allow space, and people will come back to you.

My husband was very good at his work, job, education , friends, support to his family esp monetary, and good with his relations with me too. The thing that he lacked was communicating correctly between the relationships, esp when important decisions are needed. Luckily for me, unlike Sona I was blessed with children early on and though we struggled with all this for a few years we came out of it knowing that we have to raise our children together. We decided to take care of our elders with their flaws as a couple ,as a unit, and pave the way for a better future for our kids.


Children stabilize the marriage and give it the concrete sense of a unit, after which the husband and wife are connected through blood through the kids. That may not apply to some cases of abuse and physical harassment but to most cases, children make us look to future, to hope.

Having said that, my husband 's support was most critical to me during my pregnancy and delivery. Its a very sensitive time in a girls life, and I have never forgotten the good and the bad my family members said or did during that phase. Because pregnancy makes a woman emotionally and physically vulnerable, and emotional sensitivity is heightened at that time.
Even though I am high qualified IT and Business professional, had tons of self earned money in the bank and was otherwise very healthy, I was reduced to hours of tears and puffy eyes for insensitive remarks made or for the times when my husband wasn't around me due to travel for work.

I am so thankful that my husband took the time to understand, came to prepare childbirth classes, read books and supported me every way he could including learning to cook. Even if I cried for a reason he could not understand, he held me and talked to me till I was pacified.And all this when he is not even a romantic or lovey dovey sort of a guy. He is more of a responsible guy who does things out of knowing he needs to do them.

But this caring side of him brought on the jealous and possessive side of some family members, because of which during my second pregnancy, I had to face some nasty family troubles. That brought the worse phase of my life to my door . Everyone else wanted their own importance , and my husband put me at the bottom of the list to pacify them. Ping pong ball, kabhi yahan kabhi wahan. Issues culminated in bad care post partum , and my marriage came to rock bottom..I struggled with two young kids living with my in laws doing every thing on my own as my husband went to work.
We fought and struggled , until he himself saw how his family functioned and understood that sincerity does not work always, some tough love is necessary.

Its a process of understanding and it does not come in a day. But meanwhile its important to not let go of people who love you. Not once, in all this churning did my husband ask me to leave. Not once..not even in our worst phase when we were living in separate rooms in the house. Rather , once when my parent in law asked me to leave in an angry tirade, my husband intervened to firmly clarify that this is his wife's house , that she is the lady of the house here, and that no one has a right to ask her to leave. We all can be angry, argue or dislike each other but no one asks another to leave in a family.

Dev-Sona Separation

Given all I have seen, I related to Dev Dixit and Sona Bose very easily. Dev has the same communication issues I saw in my husband. Not telling the truth at the right time to right people, getting everybody into problems. . But where I lost Dev was his inability to understand that no matter how things were before, he needs to change now because he is married and a third person has joined the family equation. After marriage the keyword is "we together". We together take care of our room , our house, our finances, our responsibilities. And Sona was coaching him with it. Dev' expectation that he loves everyone so everyone will love him like he wants and get along is not a realistic expectation..thats where exaclty my husband also faltered. Till he learnt to draw boundaries.



Dev -Sona separation was very forced and out of character for their personalities. But the fact that she went through the pregnancy and childbirth and taking care of the baby alone, my heart goes out to her. A lot of people must be thinking why is she alone, her parents and brother are with her right? WRONG. For a married person, spouse holds a huge importance, and esp for a pregnant girl support of husband is the most critical thing. Not matter who else is there with her, she will fee alone because the baby is hers and her husbands and she needs his care. A couple as a unit takes care of pregnancy and baby etc. Not having him, that too when he alive and able to take care of her, but just hates her so much he didn't come after her, that must have been most painful.

Its not Dev's mistake that she went through it alone , though he should have checked if the family was fine after they were kicked out of their home. Basically he thought that she was anyway infertile whats the point in going after her. But each time he utters My daughter Suhana...he annoys me because he didn't think of responsibilities, he thinks of rights. And its a very Dixit family trait..they think of their rights and others responsibilities, not vice-versa.
Rights and Responsibilities come hand in hand.

Rights, come with responsibilities. You have to earn your rights by fulfilling responsibilities properly. Rights cannot be demanded by being biological parent or on basis of hollow authority. Authority needs to be backed up be deeds done to command it. Even courts do not consent such rights. Contrary to popular notion that Dev has equal rights as the father, in a court of law, baby born after separation is not given to father by right.

Atleast now, if Dev chooses to do his responsibilities to Soha and win rights on her, he will be on better path. Starting with offering to take up her financial responsibility . All this while Sona has been mother and father, doing her part at home and outside. He needs to do his part, and tell Sona he will share all responsibilities with her and then talk about Rights.

The topics the show is touching are quite grave and serious. They need to sober up and treat it with delicate and thoughtful measures and not with arrogance and humour. There is nothing to laugh about for a woman who faced criticism for her infertility, was almost told she will be accepted only after she undergoes treatments and have a baby for the family tree, and then when mutual family fights break out, the husband asks her to leave twice, in front of everyone and does not go to get her back.Does not check on her for years but after knowing a daughter was born, he now wants his " rights". Nothing respectable about it, and thats coming from my husband.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for sharing ur story...i luved ur points...i guess experience makes person wise...though im not married but observing my marriied siblings n friends i can say that communication and understanding and following responsibilities that marriage demands is crucial...infact i did a study on marriage and divorce and i found that lack of both has created issues among couples and led their divorce...
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Thank you for sharing your story. I am glad you are now in a happy marriage. You are right when you said that in your case children made the bridge you needed.
Unfortunately Sona's infertility and how Dev and Ishwari behaved during that tough time was the straw that broke her back.

You are right that when a woman is pregnant, the only person she wants by her side is her child's father and the fact that Dev wrote her off after calling her names no woman can forgive is still an open wound in her.

It would have healed like all old wounds if Dev at least once asked her how she coped in her pregnancy, did she face any difficulty, who was there with her. But he never once asked her. In fact he just wrote her 7 years of struggle as not important.

This man who keeps singing the hardship his mother endured, never once tried to find out what the mother of his child faced as a homeless, jobless, pregnant woman with a family to support.

I completely echo your statement that with rights comes responsibility. But he always demanded rights, but at least to Sona never fulfilled the responsibility of a husband.

And when I see that he is yet oblivious to what he and his family did, makes me even angry on him more.

If his family is so innocent what was he blaming his mother for all these years? And if he was blaming her, then why is he suddenly claiming that everything was Sonakshi's fault.

Even in 7 years he didn't get any sense. So I have no hope for him anymore.
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Originally posted by: Raatri

Thanks for sharing ur story...i luved ur points...i guess experience makes person wise...though im not married but observing my marriied siblings n friends i can say that communication and understanding and following responsibilities that marriage demands is crucial...infact i did a study on marriage and divorce and i found that lack of both has created issues among couples and led their divorce...


Thanks Raatri. I openly opened up because I see many many young girls posting here who may not have experience with real pain points in marriage, or have not faced pregnancy and childbirth or faced abuse where they have to think about self respect. Its very different when at 16, 18 or 20 and have not gone through the things I mentioned...marriage seems a romantic venture where you and husband will take half half share and all will be fine.

Real life is not like that. Its much more difficult. . One of the biggest cause of separations and divorces is interfering in laws ..whose boundaries are not set. The marriage needs to be controlled by husband and wife only. Not by a third party...not even the parents. Only then there is sanctity and respect to it.

I find it very odd that still today , even at this age people still expect the girl to tolerate and save the marriage rather than stand up for herself.Its easy at a young age to make judgmental comments or not understanding the pain of being told by the person you love, your husband that you should leave, in front of others. Its the worst thing to hear. Is it so hard for a man to apologize for his behavior I wonder.


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This is such heart-touching post. Real stories are so much better I feel specially after watching the shitty show. Kudos to you for emerging as an winner and kudos to your struggle ! It makes me feel proud :).


One thing I would share from my experience that I have been blessed to have a gentleman as my husband who seems to be so balanced and sets his priorities right. He, just like me, dislikes lies and knows the boundary everyone should have in each other's lives being in a family. He stops me when I go overboard and stops his mother when required. My MIL and husband fully respects me first as an individual and then as their DIL. And the credit goed to my hubby and my SIL for this. My SIL is my closest friend at my in-laws place. And the credit fully goes to my MIL for raising her children so wonderfully despite a lifelong struggle like Ishwari (may be even worse). And when I see women as graceful as them around me, it feels scary to imagine women and husbands like Dev and Ishu even exist ! How difficult is it to call a spade a spade and do the right truthful thing to do ? Guess having a husband like mine I can never even guess that it can be something so difficult (and for guys like Dev, impossible) thing to do !! About kids, in fact the option is given to me whether or not I want a kid. Being in India having this option is a BIG deal and it affirms the right of an individual that the wife or the husband is not just to be taken for granted to increase the family tree and that the kids are not the deciding factor of the relationship. In fact it should be a love child to reiterate the strength of the already established bond.


Watching Dev makes me wonder what would happen if Sona declares tomorrow that Soha is adopted (thank you Ashi, much needed thought). As shallow as he is, I doubt if he would want to put so much of effort for an adopted kid. And it just makes me cringe !


Lovely topic and totally agree with your views !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you for sharing your life experiences and views. Very insightful! Happy that you got the happiness you deserved. :)

"Dev -Sona separation was very forced and out of character for their personalities." - Sona confronting and breaking up with Dev when he was not even sober and as you mentioned, him not looking back ever since that day. Infact, it would have been both, if not for Soha.

The situation has gone beyond redemption and I don't know what is going to justify DevAkshi reunion or past deeds. I find the scenes impalpable.
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Very nice analysis and I agree with most of what you said.
The only thing I disagree with is the idea that Dev had a responsibility to check up on Sona after they separated. If Dev had that responsibility then Sona also had that same responsibility to check up on Dev, which she didn't do either. So for me its not really fair to say that Dev had a responsibility to check up on Sona. As far he knew the Bose family had 5 cr of his investment in Saurabh's business still active, plus 4.5 cr of cheque that he never cashed. Sona was an educated professional with a good paying job. Also when it came to the prenup-- Sona made it clear she didn't want any financial help from him. So to expect him to follow her up to me is a bit unreasonable. He could've checked how she was doing emotionally, just as she could've checked how he was doing emotionally. They both chose not to do that and that was their right.

We talk about right's and responsibilities. But was it really Dev's responsibility to consider the possibility that she could've been pregnant? Even a normal couple can take up to a year to conceive when they are actively trying. We only start to look for infertility issues after one year of trying. Even if Sona was normal, its not a common thought that she would be secretly hiding a pregnancy. This is where I find what Sona did as very selfish. If Dev wasn't there for her during the pregnancy that's because she never told him. She only came when Soha was 6 months old. She never gave him the opportunity to be there for her. She never gave him the opportunity to be there for their child. That's something for me Sona has to accept responsibility for. Even her attempt to tell Dev came across very half hearted to me.

The Dixits rejected Sona... so Sona used that as an opportunity to keep Soha away from Dev. But they never rejected Soha. She is a separate entity from Soha. Sona never gave her child the respect of being an individual. No matter how angry you are with the father of your child... he has a separate relationship with that child and that had to be respected.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, glad you are in a happy place .kudos to your strength!!
Coming to Dev , i feel this only one side of the coin..I agree with your to an extent on how and where Dev failed as a husband, specially that infertility track..but do you think Sona was perfect in her roles and responsibilities as wife, DIL and mother of Soha?

Leaving inlaws house for weeks ( I understand if she didn't come for 2-3 days) , stopping communicating with them including husband , cuting his calls continuously and returned only to return the cheque..isn't this the root cause for "Get out"?( one shouldnt forget just before this Bijoy said the Same " get out to Dev by throwing him and his patience levels ,sanity in the neighborhood of bose family )



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Thanks for sharing your story! I can relate to it completely as it's similar to mine. In fact that's the very reason I couldn't watch the show few days into Dev and sonakshi's marriage. It just reminded me of my bad days. It took 8 years for me and my husband to accept and understand each other. In 8 years I was on the verge of separation 7 times out of which 3 times in front on my in laws. My husband is extremely attached to his mother and in their presence I always felt like an outsider. His mother always made it a point to show me that I will never be his priority. We spent so many years defending our parents ... fighting for our families. Anyways, my story would be too long to talk about here. Not easy to talk again about all the sensitive issues and all the bitter experiences. But what I want to really share is time is the best remedy. People change , circumstances changes . We cannot judge for everyone as everyone's situation, personality and struggles are different. Today ,after 10 years, I can proudly say that I ve found my best friend in my husband who understands me, respects me and loves me. It was a long journey to get where we are but we did get here. We know each other's parents shortcomings as well as our own parents shortcomings. Our pact is that it will never get in a way of our relation. In fact even our 2 (3 yrs and 7yrs) sons can't get in between our relation. As you mentioned communication is a key to healthy relationship. We cannot please everyone at all the times. But striking a balance is important.
Coming to krpk... it's very realistic in its approach. Or should I say was very realistic! I felt, Dev and sonas separation was too forced. It didn't look like them at all. Dev would always follow sonakshi after a fight and sonakshi was never impulsive in her decisions , she believed in talking , sorting out things. They did not have any chance to speak to each other calmly , or even in sober state(Dev was drunk). Their separation was Fault from both sides. So the separation was for drama sake and so is the post leap. I look at the post leap as a story now which was left incomplete... the story of their incomplete love.
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Originally posted by: malikakas

Very nice analysis and I agree with most of what you said.

The only thing I disagree with is the idea that Dev had a responsibility to check up on Sona after they separated. If Dev had that responsibility then Sona also had that same responsibility to check up on Dev, which she didn't do either. So for me its not really fair to say that Dev had a responsibility to check up on Sona. As far he knew the Bose family had 5 cr of his investment in Saurabh's business still active, plus 4.5 cr of cheque that he never cashed. Sona was an educated professional with a good paying job. Also when it came to the prenup-- Sona made it clear she didn't want any financial help from him. So to expect him to follow her up to me is a bit unreasonable. He could've checked how she was doing emotionally, just as she could've checked how he was doing emotionally. They both chose not to do that and that was their right.

We talk about right's and responsibilities. But was it really Dev's responsibility to consider the possibility that she could've been pregnant? Even a normal couple can take up to a year to conceive when they are actively trying. We only start to look for infertility issues after one year of trying. Even if Sona was normal, its not a common thought that she would be secretly hiding a pregnancy. This is where I find what Sona did as very selfish. If Dev wasn't there for her during the pregnancy that's because she never told him. She only came when Soha was 6 months old. She never gave him the opportunity to be there for her. She never gave him the opportunity to be there for their child. That's something for me Sona has to accept responsibility for. Even her attempt to tell Dev came across very half hearted to me.

The Dixits rejected Sona... so Sona used that as an opportunity to keep Soha away from Dev. But they never rejected Soha. She is a separate entity from Soha. Sona never gave her child the respect of being an individual. No matter how angry you are with the father of your child... he has a separate relationship with that child and that had to be respected.


My post is not about this issue alone. However, based on my experience I will say this. The person who ignites the separation has a higher duty to resolve it. In this case it was Dev's bitter words for her to not touch his mother after the fall, and his "get outs" that triggered the separation and events post that. If he is just exasperated because she was yelling at him, a shut up about this now would be enough. But inspite of her trying to take care of his mother due to the fall, he reacted very badly to Sona.

No woman an tolerate her husband telling her that he should not have loved her, married her and then asked her to get out in front of his family, knowing that family was never loving to her. Marriages are not meant to be supported only by the woman. So those saying that it takes two to clap and if relationship broke it must be her mistake also..are wrong. Its enough in a marriage if one falters very badly...for the marriage to stop functioning normally. Because the other person cannot always handle that load.

If nothing else, Dev could have headed to Bose house instead of going to that farmhouse to drink with his cousin. He could have brought his wife back with some talking. But he didnt. The break up just didnt happen..Dev initiated it. And further poured fuel in it with his bitter words at the farmhouse. You cannot put bandaids on knifewounds. Since it was initiated by the husband..he had a higher moral duty to check back on her.

Yes, Boses might be financially stable normally. But in that day and time Sona didnt have anything. The money was already invested. and she wont use the money she returned..and she was yet to find a new job. And no matter how much money you have, being thrown out of your house is not a joke to deal with. Finding a place to live is not a joke to deal with. By both these accounts I hold the husband responsible for checking on the wife. If atleast once he bothered to know, they would have likely informed him of the pregnancy.

See most of the breakup issues were initiated by Dixits- Dev, Ishwari and Vicky/Mami. None of Bose family members were present in any breakup scenes. In that the onus of stopping the separation had lied with Dixits only.

Again I will say , its wrong to think that it takes two to make relationships go wrong. One is enough..the other one can only tolerate and balance for a while ..before they give up. Thats the truth.





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