Dev vs Sonakshi, Ishwari vs Bijoy, Asha vs Sona

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Kamala

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Posted: 8 years ago

I have seen many topics regarding the supporters of both parties justifying their fav characters. Well, so far I am a supporter of the Bose team because if we could weigh the faults of both parties, Dikshits will weigh more.

Dev versus Sonakshi

Let me make it very clear, I am not a fan of Sonakshi,used to admire her character, but stopped being a fan when she decide to accept Dev's proposal after the first break up.

Few people lately tend to compare Sonakshi's behavior with Dev's previous behavior, but is there anything to compare, because the situation,relationship everything changed. 7 years ago, No, even now Dev is supporting in fact, he can't even tolerate a word against his mother, but can it be compared with Sonakshi's support to her family members especially to her father?
IMO 7 years ago when Dev slapped her father, she went with him, , but she did come back to prove that she is not a gold digger as Ishwari believe, it is unfortunate that the gesture was misinterpreted. But the insult against Bose was baseless whereas in the last episode Sonakshi was telling the truth of Ishwari but like always Dev cannot differentiate right or wrong when it comes to the matter of his mother.Secondly, 7 years ago , Sonakshi was his wife and Bijoy was his FIL , now for Sonakshi Ishwari is just the grandmother of her daughter , not her MIL.
Has everyone forgotten or you guys got used to the manner less behavior of Dev? Each and every behavior of Dev to Bijoy was insulting ever since he decided to barge into his home to be with Soha.I am not saying that Bijoy is a saint, he definitely is a temperamental person, but does have many reasons to hate and taunt Dev. And as far Sonakshi's reaction is concerned, Dev, the ex husband is misbehaving with her father, she can't silently be a witness the drama, right?

She said get out to Dev, but the person was her Ex husband (Divorced or not, but at least in her mind they don't share marital relationship) not her husband, whereas a few years ago Dev asked his wife Sonakshi to leave just because he misunderstood that she pushed his mother. And the difference is (except Mama, the silent umpire) all were against Sonakshi, but in Bose house Asha, one of the main members in the family is there to support Dev and correct Sonakshi.

We are human beings, to err is human, but a good human being realizes the mistake rather than justify the mistakes, until now I haven't heard or seen remorse in Dev or in Ishwari. That itself makes Sonakshi a better human being. And the argument that Dev values relationship than Sonakshi I completely agree with a little bit change in the sentence, Dev values blood relationship thanS and for him the rule for affinal relationship is different.In Ranveer's case he expected Ranveer to adjust his personality according to Neha's rules and in Sonakshi's case he expected Sonakshi to shape the character as per his needs.

Ishwari vs Bijoy

I am not much fond of both characters. But are they similar ? No .
1. Bijoy would have accepted Dev or any other person if Sonakshi was happy with that person, if that person respect her and loves her, whereas Ishwari wouldn't love or approve Dev's wife if he was happy or unhappy with the person.For her she should be the matter of Dev's happiness.

2. Bijoy is bitter now to Dev and he has enough reason, but Ishwari had beenalways bitter to her DIL, even without any reason.

Asha vs Sona

I was always neutral to Asha. I didn't like her bhashan on love when Sonakshi was confused whether to give Dev a second chance post breakup.And I disagree with many of her recent arguments as well.
When she confessed that the life with Bijoy was not easy there were differences, difficulties in the beginning, but they or she sorted it out and thus their relationship worked.
My take on this is obviously there would be difference and difficulties in marital relationship, after all, two different personalities are staying under the same roofa nd they have to adjust, but the difference in Sonakshi's and Asha's case is in previous episode Asha made it clear that her mother in law is a lovely person from the very beginning and once she even complained that she wanted a mother in law who would have quarreled with her.
IMO, the easiest way to adjust with marriage and make things work is with the support of husbands, if the husband is with us, even if the whole world is against us we can face it. But, if the husband is a tough person, a complicated character, but if his mother supports us then we will get the strength to make the marriage works. In Asha's case even if we accept all the confessions literally, she never said that her MIL was not supportive and that it is a motivating factor.Whereas in Sonakshi's case her husband was just a puppet in the hands of her insecure mother in law combined with the evil efforts of mami and Vicky it was impossible for her to adjust.
And those who claims that Asha is a good wife and Sonakshi a less adjusting wife , you guys criticise Sonakshi for not supporting Dev but praise Asha for going against the wishes of Bijoy. Isn't double standard? Both Asha and Sonakshi did what they felt right .

OT : Somewhere in the CC I read that Sonakshi doesn't cook whereas Asha cook for everyone and Bijoy is fine with the set up. Bijoy is fine with the arrangement because Asha loves cooking whereas Sonakshi is not fond of it.

Edited by Kamala05 - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago

Excellent post an eye opener; regarding comparing Sonakshi and Dev it's baseless and senseless; people just need a single reason to point finger on Sona and go blind towards Dev's mistake if not then justify those mistakes with baseless reasons!!

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Tinkerfairy

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Posted: 8 years ago

Banjaran, rista todne wali, bhai ki khushi nahi dekhne wali, bad wife ,bad bahu, bad mother ,thiki mirci, rista na nibhane wali, apne ego ko satisfy karne wali etc all kind of crap insults she was being thrown at. But That was sona's fault only for silently taking crap.Waise agar woh rista nibhana na janti toh husband ke bhai par harrassement ka case kab ka kar deti. I don't think Asha knows what kind trouble she went through in dixits house . CV's are busy justifying ke no matter what you have to tolerate abuse in order to have successful marriage.Just watch after marriage episodes ,we will get what kind of shit husband dev was and doormat wife she was. 🤢

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Kamala

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Tinkerfairy
Banjaran, rista todne wali, bhai ki khushi nahi dekhne wali, bad wife ,bad bahu, bad mother ,thiki mirci, rista na nibhane wali, apne ego ko satisfy karne wali etc all kind of crap insults she was being thrown at. But That was sona's fault only for silently taking crap.Waise agar woh rista nibhana na janti toh husband ke bhai par harrassement ka case kab ka kar deti. I don't think Asha knows what kind trouble she went through in dixits house . CV's are busy justifying ke no matter what you have to tolerate abuse in order to have successful marriage.Just watch after marriage episodes ,we will get what kind of shit husband dev was and doormat wife she was. 🤢

More than the Cv's the perspective of the audience disappoints me.Cv's I can understand even the so called women centric serials justifies and reassures that it is normal for man to do mistakes and woman are expected to forgive ,forget the mistake .
I was shocked that even today many believe that even if the woman lost identity she have to be with the husband , should bear every insult for the sake of marital life. It disgusts me thinking that even the young generation feels that woman have to sacrifice her happiness and dreams and live with the husband who doesn't give any importance to her or her -parents

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Tinkerfairy

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Kamala05

More than the Cv's the perspective of the audience disappoints me.Cv's I can understand even the so called women centric serials justifies and reassures that it is normal for man to do mistakes and woman are expected to forgive ,forget the mistake .
I was shocked that even today many believe that even if the woman lost identity she have to be with the husband , should bear every insult for the sake of marital life. It disgusts me thinking that even the young generation feels that woman have to sacrifice her happiness and dreams and live with the husband who doesn't give any importance to her or her -parents

You have take TV audience specially indian daily soap audience differetly most of them are SaaS,bahu they love to see saas torturing bahu, hence increase in TRP, and young audience also majorly focusses on Hero worshipping syndrome or just wanting of fairy tale romance .If herione cause any discomfort to hero, they will up their arms to defend or protect him .vice versa happen reaction will be very less .just take example of our show the kind of abusive word hero had used all forcing and manhandling all are dusted under "flawed"character .term by producer herself.being woman she herself are perpetuating this.but we cannot blame her because she knows target of her audience .After all its all about showbiz. Indian television has long way to show actual "progressive " content.

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Tia.0

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Posted: 8 years ago

Thank you for writing this post, Kamala. I have been talking about this constant comparison between apples and oranges and judging one against the other is as unfair to apples as it is to oranges.

You literally echoed my thoughts words for words.

There is absolutely no comparison between the two households/situations because never for a second, Bose family ganged up against Dev until he himself admitted that he was a thief.

On the other hand, every single time Sonakshi opened the mouth, the Dixit family behaved as if their hired maid dared to butt in where she should not have.

I'd like to point out another difference.

When Sonakshi was legally married wife of Dev and was technically (though they never showed it) a family member and she tried to help Neha to get back with Ranveer, a lot of comments were on the fact that she should have minded her business and she should not have tried to interfere. In short, a daughter-in-law has no right to speak in a daughter's matter which both Dev and Ishwari made very clear and was echoed in the forum.

Now when Dev, despite being absolutely no relationship to Bose family except Soha's dad and their daughter's ex-husband, who by his own admission doesn't give a damn about anyone but Soha, interfered in Saurabh's matter, why is now a man with golden/platinum/diamond studded heart?

Why is no one saying that he just should have known his place and minded his business?

He gets to decide in Bose family who gets to hear which information including the man of the house and his mother-in-law is absolutely fine in hiding that from her husband. But she is an ideal woman.

Whereas Sonakshi didn't mention Saurabh and her business venture and she is the one hiding information from her husband even though their business no way impacts their life.

Dev accused Sonakshi that she was not a good daughter-in-law nor wife. Is Asha a good daughter-in-law or wife who hid this incident from her husband and mother-in-law which will definitely impact their lives?

Is she a good mother whose last advises all resulted in her daughter's unhappiness, who watched her son and husband called a thief and gold digger, her husband slapped by her son-in-law and yet, she is super nice to the same guy? I am not saying that she has to be rude. But she is behaving as if her family is her biggest enemy.

And also I ask you. Which mother is super friendly to someone who was and still is a jerk to their daughter? I have never seen such a mother. So Asha might be a great mother-in-law. But she is not a loyal wife, nor a loyal mother, and definitely is not a loyal daughter-in-law. She is lucky that she has a loyal husband, loyal children and loyal mother-in-law. Otherwise, had she been a daughter-in-law to Ishwari, we all know what she would have said to a daughter-in-law like Asha who is super friendly with the man who insulted her son.

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mily_mathew

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: randomramblings

A-sona being not practical is not her fault, it's her nature, but ish and Vicky broke Dev's family coz they considered sona as a threat. So where is sona's fault in this.

B-Yes dev tried to bring sona into their equations and sona also unknowingly challenged Isn's space. But my problem is with how ish shamelessly intruded in the marital space of Devakshi. Also another problem with ish is how blind she is to others suffering.

She din hav any empathy towards sona when she go to know she can't conceive. On top that she made sona make rigid compromises just to get her acceptance. How do u expect the audience to like such a woman.

C. Bijoy is wrong in sohas matter. But dev has not given any reason to Bijoy to like him.

D. No one is glorifying sona, but she has the lesser share of blame in all dis mess

E. Ish 's activities had been so mean that I don't even like sohas bonding with her given the fact that she wants to grab soha from sona. Tell me who will not bash such a double faced woman. She cant stay away from her son but want sona to leave soha.

F. And after all this she has the nerve to blame sona. Sona at least accepts her share of mistakes.

G. Ish needs to learn to let go. She is too interfering and delusional

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randomramblings

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: mily_mathew

A-sona being not practical is not her fault, it's her nature, but ish and Vicky broke Dev's family coz they considered sona as a threat. So where is sona's fault in this.

sona's fault lies in the fact that her she opened up the loops in her relationship for others to strike. let me give you an example. when ranveer's sil walked into ishwari nivas claiming that dev got ranveer ousted from his job, didn't sona deny her? doesn't sona know to what extent dev can resort to when he dislikes a person or wants him to concede . let's not forget its the same dev who made sure she is left jobless forcing her to take up the role of personal nutritionist, closed all doors for ritwick when he wanted to drive him away and sona was witness to all this .YET she disbelieved .. reason being she had faith in her "HUSBAND" . so if she had faith in her relationship of " WIFE-HUSBAND" no one , i repeat no one could have broken them but for their egos.

B-Yes dev tried to bring sona into their equations and sona also unknowingly challenged Isn's space. But my problem is with how ish shamelessly intruded in the marital space of Devakshi. Also another problem with ish is how blind she is to others suffering.
She din hav any empathy towards sona when she go to know she can't conceive. On top that she made sona make rigid compromises just to get her acceptance. How do u expect the audience to like such a woman.

no one is asking you to like ishwari or sympathize with her. the comparison was only drawn to show how bijoys actions are unjustifiable and not to garner support for ishwari

C. Bijoy is wrong in sohas matter. But dev has not given any reason to Bijoy to like him.

Bijoy's like or dislike for dev vs him pitching Jatin as a competitor for Dev is something i have a problem with. My complaint towards bijoy is he may dislike dev, yet he cannot decide the fate of dev-suhana relationship

D. No one is glorifying sona, but she has the lesser share of blame in all dis mess .
this is very relative term and most debatable based on how you view it. All in all , what i meant to highlight was sona is not exempted from blame

E. Ish 's activities had been so mean that I don't even like sohas bonding with her given the fact that she wants to grab soha from sona. Tell me who will not bash such a double faced woman. She cant stay away from her son but want sona to leave soha.

yeah, same goes for bijoy too, he cannot give up on soha but wants dev to give up on his daughter... so both the head of families are nut heads in this regards...lol 😉

F. And after all this she has the nerve to blame sona. Sona at least accepts her share of mistakes.

That is ishwari 😉. Blame anyone and everyone. mamaji rightly said she should stop playing the role of bhagya vidata and stop writing the fate of dev- sona relationship .

G. Ish needs to learn to let go. She is too interfering and delusional

not only ishu, all the characters need to stop being delusional and learn to let go. to me personally i would say, Asha has mastered this feeling of let go or " let bygones be bygones".. well many may see it as disloyalty,.. hehe,,, i still hold my pov.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Bijoy hating Dev is justified because according to Mr Bose Dev was the only one responsible for the breakup and has only given her pain and he conveniently forgot it was Dev who married his daughter despite her infertility problem. This is the problem with Bijoy n other characters who only know how to find fault in others n focus only on people's flaws b weakness assuming themselves to be perfect .Forget Dixits even his own family members doesn't respect Bijoy .This is the reason why his own family doesn't trust Bijoy when it comes to Saurabh Ronita's problems because they know their Baba is not capable of understanding the situation nor believes in forgiveness

Dev having issues with Bijoy is not at all justified and Dev as a father should accept that Bijoy was ready to run away with his minor daughter n forgive him without making an issue .Dev should not have a problem when he is insulted at dining table or when Bijoy shows his anger on his innocent nephew.Dev should not have a problem when Bijoy taunts his nephew n him infront of relatives .Everyone from Saurabh to Dev to Asha should forgive Bijoy for his mistakes but the great Mr Bose will keep insulting people even they apologize.

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Kamala

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: yyy
Bijoy hating Dev is justified because according to Mr Bose Dev was the only one responsible for the breakup and has only given her pain and he conveniently forgot it was Dev who married his daughter despite her infertility problem. This is the problem with Bijoy n other characters who only know how to find fault in others n focus only on people's flaws b weakness assuming themselves to be perfect .Forget Dixits even his own family members doesn't respect Bijoy .This is the reason why his own family doesn't trust Bijoy when it comes to Saurabh Ronita's problems because they know their Baba is not capable of understanding the situation nor believes in forgiveness

Dev having issues with Bijoy is not at all justified and Dev as a father should accept that Bijoy was ready to run away with his minor daughter n forgive him without making an issue .Dev should not have a problem when he is insulted at dining table or when Bijoy shows his anger on his innocent nephew.Dev should not have a problem when Bijoy taunts his nephew n him infront of relatives .Everyone from Saurabh to Dev to Asha should forgive Bijoy for his mistakes but the great Mr Bose will keep insulting people even they apologize.

Jeez the sexist views. Seriously yaar , should Bijoy touch Dev's feet to show that he is thankful to marry his worthless girl ? When did fertility become the measurement of Woman's virtue ? And you seriously think that the only purpose of marriage is procreation ?If that is your perspective , should I waste time by arguing with you ?

Regarding Ronitha's case I firmly believe that Bijoy should know the truth , a relationship cannot build on lies , and the truth can't be hidden forever . Even if Bijoy force Saurabh to rethink about the alliance , I won't blame him as the core reason is the conning behavior Ronitha's Maa. Having said that I don't support him in all his previous behavior, especially the decision to take Soha to Calcutta away from Sonakshi and Dev. But that doesn't give Dev the right to insult , mock a person in his own house that too a person double his age.

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