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mily_mathew

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: randomramblings

Bijou can never be equated to ish. Whatever he is doing is to protect sona from heartbreak, considering how gullible sona is when it comes to ppl she loves. And pls Noone can be blamed for being rose tinted in love. Ish is selfish and narcissistic whereas bijoy is just a cranky man with a big heart. And regarding his hatred towards dev Devs goodness is only limited toll ish is not in the picture.He has not been given any reason to like dev. Come on will u forgive someone who slaps u so easily. Ish and only ish is the root of all dis mes. And trust me the future Dixit episodes will prove dis right. One more difference Bijoy wants dev away from soha coz he fears dev will hurt soha and sona.but ish wants sona away from soha and dev to confirm her own place in that equation. There is no comparison. And I feel saurabh and Asha are a little extra nice to Dev also Devs jealousy for jatin is totally uncalled for. Even shaheer dialogue delivery with swag is not making it sound cool. It reeks of self centeredness

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: Kamala05

Jeez the sexist views. Seriously yaar , should Bijoy touch Dev's feet to show that he is thankful to marry his worthless girl ? When did fertility become the measurement of Woman's virtue ? And you seriously think that the only purpose of marriage is procreation ?If that is your perspective , should I waste time by arguing with you ?

Regarding Ronitha's case I firmly believe that Bijoy should know the truth , a relationship cannot build on lies , and the truth can't be hidden forever . Even if Bijoy force Saurabh to rethink about the alliance , I won't blame him as the core reason is the conning behavior Ronitha's Maa. Having said that I don't support him in all his previous behavior, especially the decision to take Soha to Calcutta away from Sonakshi and Dev. But that doesn't give Dev the right to insult , mock a person in his own house that too a person double his age.

True kamala. Some ppl are so skewed in their judgements. No wonder they sell Dev the mcp so easily. And dev married sona coz he loved her there was no sacrifice there. I hav no sympathy for Dev until he shows some remorse

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randomramblings

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: mily_mathew
Bijou can never be equated to ish. Whatever he is doing is to protect sona from heartbreak, considering how gullible sona is when it comes to ppl she loves. And pls Noone can be blamed for being rose tinted in love. Ish is selfish and narcissistic whereas bijoy is just a cranky man with a big heart. And regarding his hatred towards dev Devs goodness is only limited toll ish is not in the picture.He has not been given any reason to like dev. Come on will u forgive someone who slaps u so easily. Ish and only ish is the root of all dis mes. And trust me the future Dixit episodes will prove dis right. One more difference Bijoy wants dev away from soha coz he fears dev will hurt soha and sona.but ish wants sona away from soha and dev to confirm her own place in that equation. There is no comparison. And I feel saurabh and Asha are a little extra nice to Dev also Devs jealousy for jatin is totally uncalled for. Even shaheer dialogue delivery with swag is not making it sound cool. It reeks of self centeredness

Dev is going to hurt suhana is a mere figment of Bijoy's imagination. i would term it as his mistrust, to me i see it in the same light as the insecurity that Ishu had with regard to sona snatching away Dev. They were baseless, neither did dev ignore ishwari because of sona entering his life nor is dev ever going to hurt his daughter for whom he craved from the very beginning of his relationship.

If ever there happened to be topic of kids, the first thing dev ever wanted from sona was a tiny sonakshi. he literally craved for a girl child. even after suhana openly rejecting to accept his as "PAPA" dev did not get dejected or sit crying in a corner or keep blaming the boses . instead he did worked hard to get her to accept him, ( even resorted to wrong measures like tieing up sona).

living a week in Bose household is as unbearable to dev as living in dixit house is for sona. no pain can be categorised as big or small.it really depends of endurance levels of each of us.

By accepting to this condition, like both jatin and asha said, dev is trying to prove his point.

what i get to see is that both Bijoy and sona feel that they are only ones who had endured and hence have a right for a shouting match. this attitude does not go well with me.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: Kamala05

Jeez the sexist views. Seriously yaar , should Bijoy touch Dev's feet to show that he is thankful to marry his worthless girl ? When did fertility become the measurement of Woman's virtue ? And you seriously think that the only purpose of marriage is procreation ?If that is your perspective , should I waste time by arguing with you ?

Regarding Ronitha's case I firmly believe that Bijoy should know the truth , a relationship cannot build on lies , and the truth can't be hidden forever . Even if Bijoy force Saurabh to rethink about the alliance , I won't blame him as the core reason is the conning behavior Ronitha's Maa. Having said that I don't support him in all his previous behavior, especially the decision to take Soha to Calcutta away from Sonakshi and Dev. But that doesn't give Dev the right to insult , mock a person in his own house that too a person double his age.

There is nothing sexist in my comments.When you can openly criticize someone for the wrong they did then giving them credit when due is equally important . It's not about favour but more about how much he adored Bijoy's daughter and how she was the most important person in his life that he was ready to let go of his dream of having a daughter .if you assume things like sole purpose of marriage is only recreation then one can help you .If you feel like wasting your time then what is the purpose of posting in an discussion forum ? If you expect everyone to say awesome post then sorry to burst your bubble not everyone would do that .I am sorry to say the minute you started getting personal without knowing other PoV completely n assuming based on one sentence I realized one thing and you lost me there .

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: mily_mathew
True kamala. Some ppl are so skewed in their judgements. No wonder they sell Dev the mcp so easily. And dev married sona coz he loved her there was no sacrifice there. I hav no sympathy for Dev until he shows some remorse

Oh really .The forum is for discussing about the show not about ME .Can I know who gave you the rights to talk about me or other members here ? If you feel like knowing other person's PoV then ask them directly no need to ask someone who has no idea about me .what makes you think your are being fair in judging the characters of the show . This is the second such reply from you about me .I ignored the first time but next time pls stick to discussing the show n it's characters .

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mily_mathew

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: randomramblings

Dev is going to hurt suhana is a mere figment of Bijoy's imagination. i would term it as his mistrust, to me i see it in the same light as the insecurity that Ishu had with regard to sona snatching away Dev. They were baseless, neither did dev ignore ishwari because of sona entering his life nor is dev ever going to hurt his daughter for whom he craved from the very beginning of his relationship.

If ever there happened to be topic of kids, the first thing dev ever wanted from sona was a tiny sonakshi. he literally craved for a girl child. even after suhana openly rejecting to accept his as "PAPA" dev did not get dejected or sit crying in a corner or keep blaming the boses . instead he did worked hard to get her to accept him, ( even resorted to wrong measures like tieing up sona).
living a week in Bose household is as unbearable to dev as living in dixit house is for sona. no pain can be categorised as big or small.it really depends of endurance levels of each of us.
By accepting to this condition, like both jatin and asha said, dev is trying to prove his point.

what i get to see is that both Bijoy and sona feel that they are only ones who had endured and hence have a right for a shouting match. this attitude does not go well with me.

I would have liked to reply to ur comments coz i thot of it as a healthy discussion.But somewhere else (Im not talking abt u) things are going in a fighting mode.So im actually taking a break and refraining from commenting.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

mily we are no where going in fighting mode dear, i really appreciate the way you put forth your points, your views on why you feel that character is behaving in that so called way. to me personally both of us are seeing the same show, but the way in interpret the scene , and the way you interpret it is different.

by sharing our views , we can actually see what could have been going on in the mind of the cv's or actors when they brought that to screen. its healthy discussion in every way, we are not bashing anyone here for once.

i would really appreciate if more people could join in, but alas no one is interested in the main post, but coming up with their own sub posts .. hehe..

but i think its ok.

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mily_mathew

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: randomramblings
mily we are no where going in fighting mode dear, i really appreciate the way you put forth your points, your views on why you feel that character is behaving in that so called way. to me personally both of us are seeing the same show, but the way in interpret the scene , and the way you interpret it is different.
by sharing our views , we can actually see what could have been going on in the mind of the cv's or actors when they brought that to screen. its healthy discussion in every way, we are not bashing anyone here for once.

i would really appreciate if more people could join in, but alas no one is interested in the main post, but coming up with their own sub posts .. hehe..

but i think its ok.

No no I dint think u were fighting in any way.Something else just caught me a little offguard.Anyways much has been said abt the show.I just want that when Devaskhi reconcile it should be a complete one clearing all misunderstandings from both ends,so that their relation emerges stronger.

I always feel with a petulant mother as Ish,Dev has to be a litlle stern with her(by that i dont mean rude) otherwise the relation will not survive.If Dev falls in place Bijoy and Sona will fall in place.They are all highly flexible,except Ishwari who is the most stubborn of the lot(in terms of opinions).

Hope Dev learns balancing rather than pampering.

Post leap I was happy with him when he could clearly see thru Ish's insecurities and manipulations.But his recent behaviour is making me a little wary for Sona.I just want Ish to understand that other ppl also have emotions and other things also exist in the world apart from her personal muses.

Just like Sonas dialogue"Aapko apne bete ke siwaay kuch nahi dikhta".

That was one fab line from her.And I hope Cvs dont sacrifice Jatin to satiate Dev's ego.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: mily_mathew

No no I dint think u were fighting in any way.Something else just caught me a little offguard.Anyways much has been said abt the show.I just want that when Devaskhi reconcile it should be a complete one clearing all misunderstandings from both ends,so that their relation emerges stronger.
I always feel with a petulant mother as Ish,Dev has to be a litlle stern with her(by that i dont mean rude) otherwise the relation will not survive.If Dev falls in place Bijoy and Sona will fall in place.They are all highly flexible,except Ishwari who is the most stubborn of the lot(in terms of opinions).

Hope Dev learns balancing rather than pampering.
Post leap I was happy with him when he could clearly see thru Ish's insecurities and manipulations.But his recent behaviour is making me a little wary for Sona.I just want Ish to understand that other ppl also have emotions and other things also exist in the world apart from her personal muses.
Just like Sonas dialogue"Aapko apne bete ke siwaay kuch nahi dikhta".

That was one fab line from her.And I hope Cvs dont sacrifice Jatin to satiate Dev's ego.

based on how the people are reacting in the forum, i thinks this story has definitely strike a chord with many. the writers and makers always made it clear that this is story is about the journey of a woman from being a mother to a MIL. the roles in itself are poles apart. definitely they will show it. its not only about redemption in ishwari's character that can be called as a successful conclusion, convincing the viewers that the character was not misplaced in itself can also be termed as successful conclusion to this story.

well we may not like this or be willing to take this as a conclusion, but that does not stop it from becoming one right. that's why i am saying accepting that alternatives exist is a biggest challenge, and those who are willing to embrace the alternatives are true winners in life.

thoda zyaada philosophical ho gaya naa😉 kya karun is story ne mujhe philosophical banne par majhboor kar diya and i really am addicted for KRPKAB for this trait. 😛

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Keertiacharya

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

I somewhere read in this thread that Dev tried Sonakshi to bring to their equations...But that is not the impression I get when I see the past episodes. Dev really never wanted Sona to perform the rituals or keep a fast or forced her to gel in with his family , unless until she is comfortable with . I hardly remember him asking Sona to do something to make his mother happy. I never saw Ishwari too forcing that , which actually surprised me , because MILs or even husbands wont really think this way and they always expect to follow the their family traditions of generations. It was Sona who wanted to fast and fulfill the customs / rituals of her in-laws , which is very good on Sonakshi's part. But Dev didn't force her to gel in with his family by following all the customs or traditions and make his mother happy. Even today he has the same complaint that she tried to be a perfect DIL,SIL etc, all the time , which he never wanted to force herself into.

But it was Sona who constantly called him Mama's boy and forced him to learn being independent. I am not sure, small things like folding clothes by yourself etc., really make you an independent figure. Is this what is the definition of independence in Sona's view? She always wanted Dev to change. This is a basic flaw. She loved him as he was initially and after the marriage she kept on asking him to change. I might have missed, but I never saw Dev asking Sonakshi to change. He always admired her and praised her qualities many times . I hardly find Sonakshi's dialogue praising Dev's nature or saying something about his qualities. She always says , she loved him and it seems that she herself doesn't know the reason why she was so mad about this guy.

How can we expect a person to change overnight and stop doing what he was doing from years? My question is why to force the change until the person realizes and tries to change himself / herself? Sona tried to change him overnight and the basic problem is she didn't seem to love him as he is or along with his flaws. Isn't the marriage decision a conscious one? Doesn't she know him before agreeing for marriage? If anyone says that she married him with a hope that he will change in future , then I must say she shouldn't have agreed to marry him. Did she marry him with a hope that she could change him? Now , that is bad. This means , you are not completely happy with the person you are going to marry , which is worse.

Sonakshi many a times called him spineless on his face. Now, is it not hurting? But people only find whatever Dev told Sonakshi ,is hurtful. Did she ever try to understand his reasons for hiding the truth about infertility. Is it not for his fear of losing her? It is Dev's nature of doing everything possible (whether it is fair or unfair) to keep his loved ones happy and it is proved multiple times and she is well aware of it. Imposing the fertility treatment , again the whole intention of Dev is to keep her happy without ever revealing this to her. He didn't want to see her hurt. Did Sonakshi not put his mobile in silent mode so that he will re-live his childhood by playing video game. Did she not take that freedom even before they got married, to keep him happy? How is it justified, he may have missed an important call or business deal because of that. Why Dev seems to be so hurt today is that from his stand he did everything out of his love towards her but she couldn't understand this .Didn't her judgement about him as spineless and Mama's boy let her look the other side of each situation?

All my remarks above came as a reaction to what I have been reading in the forum and not to support Dev's actions. We can't tolerate a person like Dev , but Sonakshi sometimes is also not tolerable.

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