*Season 2, Week 11* Analysis Thread - Page 9

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Thanks everyone for clearing my doubts 😳.

But one thing that was common throughout was that Dev can't leave Ishwari and he knows that she wouldn't let Sonakshi live on peace.

So where is the character growth in him from the very first break up? What sort of a love story is this which is dependent on a third partys wishes?

Also then why should Sona trust him and go back to him if it all still depends on mummy's moods. I have been watching season 2 in the hope that Dev grows up as a man and he substantially has.

He knows his mother is unlivable with but he can tell her, her boundaries or make her powerless to hurt his family.

But if he is still not trying to get his happiness because mummy doesn't approve I don't know what to say.

His feeling that Sona doesn't trust him is right then. Why should she?

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Thanks everyone for clearing my doubts😳.

But one thing that was common throughout was that Dev can't leave Ishwari and he knows that she wouldn't let Sonakshi live on peace.

So where is the character growth in him from the very first break up? What sort of a love story is this which is dependent on a third partys wishes?

Also then why should Sona trust him and go back to him if it all still depends on mummy's moods. I have been watching season 2 in the hope that Dev grows up as a man and he substantially has.

He knows his mother is unlivable with but he can tell her, her boundaries or make her powerless to hurt his family.

But if he is still not trying to get his happiness because mummy doesn't approve I don't know what to say.

His feeling that Sona doesn't trust him is right then. Why should she?

Payal, it is true that he cannot leave his mother, but he has accepted her as a flawed human than a goddess. He no longer depends on her to be happy for being happy. He also does not want to saddle Sonakshi with his burden. He does not want the sadness of his life to affect her. When that goon attack happens and in the car, he asked her as to why she did not marry. From his perspective if she was ready to marry Ritwick after the first breakup, she should have married by now. Here now is that time when he did not know about Soha.

Regarding Ishwari she has become like a kid. He knows there is not much use in trying to convince her. Like in today's episode where she is packing the tiffin box for Dev and gives that flimsy excuse to maamaji. She knows what she is doing is not right, but is not ready to accept it as wrong. Even after maamaji tells her that she shouldn't take the lunch there as it is not correct, she tries to justify that no one should have a problem with that.

She is ok to see Dev unhappy, but not ready to accept his happiness when it is associated with Sonakshi. As a viewer we might feel her insecurities and fear as absurd, but is is not so for her. I would like to share a personal experience. I have 2 older brothers and no sisters. My mom is very close with her first sister. She has 2 daughters and older of them is around my age. When we were kids, we were very close and I spent most of my holidays and weekends at their place. My dad used to rarely stay at home as he would go on tours frequently. Her dad was great with kids and I really used to like and respect him. She also knew that I wanted a sister as I shared a close bond with her. When her sister was born, she was on one hand happy, but on the other hand did not want me to develop a strong bond with the younger sister. She wanted me to be more inclined towards her(not in any negative way. What I mean is she wanted me to be her best friend, but did not want me to be her younger sisters best friend. She wanted to be her sisters best friend). She feared that her younger sister would love me more than her. When my father passed away(he did when I was very young), she thought I would take away her dad. That he would love me more than her.

When I came to know her fears, I was shocked as I had never done anything both knowingly or unknowingly to give her that impression. But she did feel that just because when I would have sleepovers which were impromptu, she was asked by her parents to share things like the new toothbrush she had been saving to use after few days or her dad would tell the story that I wanted during bedtime. Not all fears are rational. In Ishwari's case she has GKB who knows Ishwari's fear really well and also knows how to use it against her.

Dev might not know the extent of maami's instigation, but he definitely knows that his mom does not want him to be happy with Sonakshi. He is in no mood to repeat what happened 7 years ago including the pills overdose by Ishwari. He is not a person who can ever be happy causing a huge distress to Ishwari and this time around she has been very vocal about her disapproval of Sonakshi coming back in his life. He is definitely not interested in losing Soha in trying to make himself happy by wooing Sonakshi.

The other important growth in Dev is that he no longer lies to Ishwari or anyone to keep them happy. He tells the truth even if it is not pleasant to hear. What he needs is for Sonakshi to confess her love for him clearly if he is to try to reason with Ishwari. When he does not see Sonakshi giving him that strength, he feels there is not much worth in pursuing a relationship with her apart from sharing parenting of Soha. His focus right now is Suhana and will remain so till the time Sonakshi does not give him an opening. He fears that if he tries to push Sonakshi, he might end up pushing Soha too and this for him is his last strike. Like how they say in baseball-- three strikes and your out. He knows that as long as Soha is with him and disposed towards him, he can give time to Sonakshi to see the changes in him and judge for herself. He wants her to come to him of her own free will and not because he forced her.

Originally posted by: Shaavi

Payal, it is true that he cannot leave his mother, but he has accepted her as a flawed human than a goddess. He no longer depends on her to be happy for being happy. He also does not want to saddle Sonakshi with his burden. He does not want the sadness of his life to affect her. When that goon attack happens and in the car, he asked her as to why she did not marry. From his perspective if she was ready to marry Ritwick after the first breakup, she should have married by now. Here now is that time when he did not know about Soha.

Regarding Ishwari she has become like a kid. He knows there is not much use in trying to convince her. Like in today's episode where she is packing the tiffin box for Dev and gives that flimsy excuse to maamaji. She knows what she is doing is not right, but is not ready to accept it as wrong. Even after maamaji tells her that she shouldn't take the lunch there as it is not correct, she tries to justify that no one should have a problem with that.

She is ok to see Dev unhappy, but not ready to accept his happiness when it is associated with Sonakshi. As a viewer we might feel her insecurities and fear as absurd, but is is not so for her. I would like to share a personal experience. I have 2 older brothers and no sisters. My mom is very close with her first sister. She has 2 daughters and older of them is around my age. When we were kids, we were very close and I spent most of my holidays and weekends at their place. My dad used to rarely stay at home as he would go on tours frequently. Her dad was great with kids and I really used to like and respect him. She also knew that I wanted a sister as I shared a close bond with her. When her sister was born, she was on one hand happy, but on the other hand did not want me to develop a strong bond with the younger sister. She wanted me to be more inclined towards her(not in any negative way. What I mean is she wanted me to be her best friend, but did not want me to be her younger sisters best friend. She wanted to be her sisters best friend). She feared that her younger sister would love me more than her. When my father passed away(he did when I was very young), she thought I would take away her dad. That he would love me more than her.

When I came to know her fears, I was shocked as I had never done anything both knowingly or unknowingly to give her that impression. But she did feel that just because when I would have sleepovers which were impromptu, she was asked by her parents to share things like the new toothbrush she had been saving to use after few days or her dad would tell the story that I wanted during bedtime. Not all fears are rational. In Ishwari's case she has GKB who knows Ishwari's fear really well and also knows how to use it against her.

Dev might not know the extent of maami's instigation, but he definitely knows that his mom does not want him to be happy with Sonakshi. He is in no mood to repeat what happened 7 years ago including the pills overdose by Ishwari. He is not a person who can ever be happy causing a huge distress to Ishwari and this time around she has been very vocal about her disapproval of Sonakshi coming back in his life. He is definitely not interested in losing Soha in trying to make himself happy by wooing Sonakshi.

The other important growth in Dev is that he no longer lies to Ishwari or anyone to keep them happy. He tells the truth even if it is not pleasant to hear. What he needs is for Sonakshi to confess her love for him clearly if he is to try to reason with Ishwari. When he does not see Sonakshi giving him that strength, he feels there is not much worth in pursuing a relationship with her apart from sharing parenting of Soha. His focus right now is Suhana and will remain so till the time Sonakshi does not give him an opening. He fears that if he tries to push Sonakshi, he might end up pushing Soha too and this for him is his last strike. Like how they say in baseball-- three strikes and your out. He knows that as long as Soha is with him and disposed towards him, he can give time to Sonakshi to see the changes in him and judge for herself. He wants her to come to him of her own free will and not because he forced her.

March 28, 2017 - Tuesday

Happy Gudi Padwa and Happy Ugadi to all people celebrating today.

Well...the best scene in yesterday's episode was Golu the great! 👏 He was so clear in his thoughts and expressed them so innocently. 'Main toh Pehle se hi aisa hoon, kisine notice hi nahin kiya!" My heart went out to him and Ishwari got her first lesson from a six year old. Let Dev go and find his life!! Just leave him alone!!! 😛 I don't know whether she understood it, though.

Sonakshi didn't expect Dev to barge in and Dev had made it amply clear to Sonakshi that he would go to any lengths for Suhana. Bijoy was shocked and rightly so. He expected Sonakshi to throw Dev out and obviously she wouldn't. The decision was mutual. Sonakshi offered that Dev can come and live with the Boses, which Dev found ridiculous, then later it seemed to be the only way out. Sonakshi is doing this for Suhana's happiness and she knows that Bijoy also would do anything for her happiness. She sees a beautiful father-daughter relationship between Dev-Suhana and as a good parent does not want to deprive Suhana of this love. Bravo, Sonakshi. Bijoy is acting his true self, obsessed with Sonakshi and his fears are like Ishwari. Would Dev snatch away his daughter and grandchild from them? Unlike Ishwari who is selfish and can never see beyond herself, Bijoy is genuinely worried for his kids. What if they are hurt again??

Dev confesses to Suhana that he didn't treat Sonakshi well. Why confess to a six year old? Would she even understand it? Would Dev now muster the courage to say the same to Sonakshi?

Jatin was an added bonus yesterday. Dev needs to learn from him how to stand up for someone. I thought that Jatin's character may turn out to be negative later. But he looks pretty sorted here. Saurabh defended Sonakshi and he did the right thing. Ishwari could again be brain washed by XGKB before Sonakshi reaches Dixit mansion. 😃

Bijoy needs to cool down to think and act rationally, else Suhana could misinterpret his actions. Sonakshi can teach Dev how to stand by the people you love, when she defends Dev in front of Bijoy. That would make Dev realise and accept his faults and also defend Sonakshi when she arrives at Dixit Niwas.

Interesting episodes this week. The fire burning inside Dev-Sonakshi should not burn them down so soon. 😉



-Rekha

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

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Ladies...once again my sincere and wholehearted appreciation to all those who are taking part in these wonderful discussions. aisa baidke, aaraam se ye poora analysis aur discussions padne mein kuch aur hi mazza hai...isaliye, ye hafte mein zyaada kuch nahin post karegaa...😊

Guys..please tell me how am I supposed to catch up 11 pages of the thread and mind you they were just after the first day of the week😆. Keep it up👏

Shaavi I still have this doubt. So Dev really can't go against Ishwari and is waiting for Sona's signal. There is a paradox in this.

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Shaavi I still have this doubt. So Dev really can't go against Ishwari and is waiting for Sona's signal. There is a paradox in this.

Suppose Sona agrees. Would this guy go against Ishwari? From your analysis it seems no. Then back to square one - what's the point of everything?

Let me give my reading of the situation basis what I have read and observed. For Dev it's no longer about Ishwari any more. He loves her but will not stop just for the sake of keeping her happy.

He still doesn't answer her back as he feels that there is no point in it. Ishwari will neither learn nor understand her mistakes. He has given up on her and she is no longer privy to his innermost thoughts. The only problem is that Ishwari refuses to see or understand this change and thinks that if Sona disappears and she can have Soha, then they can be a happy family with Dev the father, Ishwari the mother and Soha the child. I am again referring to Ishwari's psychological problems of seeing her son as her life partner but they are very evident in this track.

She still thinks that Dev is not going back to Sonakshi because she hurt him. What she doesn't realise is that for Dev it's now all about him.. He feels he is a total failure as a husband and will never be able to keep Sona happy. He can't provide what she needs. What he has still not realised is that he has already changed from the mummy's boy to a man who is capable of taking his own decisions and for whom lifes only aim is not his mother's happiness.

I think Dev's experience in the bose household coupled with his successful handling of ishwari and gkb when sona comes to IN will reinstate his confidence in himself.

After that I think gkb and red's manipulations and their after effects will start. After all Jatin is still dancing in the side for a purpose.

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Thanks everyone for clearing my doubts 😳.

But one thing that was common throughout was that Dev can't leave Ishwari and he knows that she wouldn't let Sonakshi live on peace.

So where is the character growth in him from the very first break up? What sort of a love story is this which is dependent on a third partys wishes?

Also then why should Sona trust him and go back to him if it all still depends on mummy's moods. I have been watching season 2 in the hope that Dev grows up as a man and he substantially has.

He knows his mother is unlivable with but he can tell her, her boundaries or make her powerless to hurt his family.

But if he is still not trying to get his happiness because mummy doesn't approve I don't know what to say.

His feeling that Sona doesn't trust him is right then. Why should she?