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Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: dreamy.tiara

I agree with you that Dev is like a caged golden egg laying bird for them. But they have to share the gold with the bird also, which I don't think they want to do. Or perhaps, they don't mind Ishwari and Dev taking some share, only Dev's future generations should remain out of picture.

But she was never this hostile to Natasha. Did she feel that Natasha is rich and wouldn't take share out of their gold? If that is the case, Sona too is rich enough now.

If she doesn't want Suhana to have a share in her share of gold, then if Dev and Natasha would have got married , they would have also had children and Dev would have given his everything to them also.

Natasha from the first did not show herself to have assertiveness. When she came to the house as Dev's business partner, she bent to take blessings from both Ishwari and GKB which Sonakshi did not do. Meaning Natasha recognized them as elders and did not really question them or their views or decisions. But Sonakshi was the opposite. She questioned the norms followed by Dixit house. Also as you said GKB knew Natasha to be a rich girl on her own. But Sonakshi was from middle class. GKB saw her as a person similar to her in the sense as someone who was after Dev for his money.

While Sonakshi wanted to make changes in Dixit house, Natasha did not try any of these things. Dev did not really ask for Natahsa's input and she did not have any place in the decision making. She also did not really assert that right with Dev. GKB once told Ishwari that she would take no less than diamond necklace once Dev's marriage is fixed with Natasha. But she knew Sonakshi wouldn't do any such thing. GKB does not want anybody who can have a positive influence on Dev or Ishwari.

As to if Natasha had kids, she thought it would also follow the same route. As long as Ishwari was/is in GKB's control, she would get her dreams fulfilled. All she wants is to be in a place same as Ishwari is. i.e. mother of a big business man, who is respected by others the way Ishwari is respected along with the riches.

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thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: Shaavi

Natasha from the first did not show herself to have assertiveness. When she came to the house as Dev's business partner, she bent to take blessings from both Ishwari and GKB which Sonakshi did not do. Meaning Natasha recognized them as elders and did not really question them or their views or decisions. But Sonakshi was the opposite. She questioned the norms followed by Dixit house. Also as you said GKB knew Natasha to be a rich girl on her own. But Sonakshi was from middle class. GKB saw her as a person similar to her in the sense as someone who was after Dev for his money.

While Sonakshi wanted to make changes in Dixit house, Natasha did not try any of these things. Dev did not really ask for Natahsa's input and she did not have any place in the decision making. She also did not really assert that right with Dev. GKB once told Ishwari that she would take no less than diamond necklace once Dev's marriage is fixed with Natasha. But she knew Sonakshi wouldn't do any such thing. GKB does not want anybody who can have a positive influence on Dev or Ishwari.

As to if Natasha had kids, she thought it would also follow the same route. As long as Ishwari was/is in GKB's control, she would get her dreams fulfilled. All she wants is to be in a place same as Ishwari is. i.e. mother of a big business man, who is respected by others the way Ishwari is respected along with the riches.

To add, when Natasha came in their lives. GKB and Vicky weren't that ambitious. They were happy living off of Dev's leftovers. Mami saw Natasha as a golden hen herself.

What mami didn't account for is that Natasha could have asked for more control on the household because she actually wanted to become a housewife. Also, Mr Gujral may have asked for better rights for his daughter and her children.

In all honesty, back then all mami wanted was simple things like gold bangles and big cars. Only after Sona left and Dev & Ishwari let them control the strings did they get that ambitious. Especially with Dev having no desire to re-marry and have kids, sisters out of the way(this family's approach to the Dixit sisters' access to "Dev's" wealth has always been a huge issue with me), they now want Golu to have all the money

The reason mami wanted Sonakshi out of the house is simply because Dr Bose used to hamper her efforts of keeping Ishwari confused. Mami had been caught stealing by her. She also assumed Sonakshi and her family were after Dev's wealth (like her)

Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago

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Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#53

@ DQ Nicely summed up. Thanks. 😃

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timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#54

Wow! you guys put it so well😳👏...Thank you Shaavi and timbarucha83 (sorry i dunno ur name) 🤗

So basically, she is trying to play by reverse psychology with Ishwari - suggesting the opposite of what she wants, to get what she wants. She is using Dev and Ishwari for fulfilling her greed and plans more for the future. I also wonder why Dev or Ishwari don't sense this, or maybe they don't seem to mind because of the 'ehsaan'. And Ex-GKB is doing 'paisa-vasool' of the entire investment of 'supporting' Ishwari, Dev and his sisters years back. I also wonder why Mamaji doesn't object this way of taking advantage of an ehsaan.

Dear if you see the today's episode you will see mami is doing the same, thing which we were discussing.so get ready for the final show down between ishu and dev

By the way I loved today episode.

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timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#55

Now coming to the today 's episode. The point which I loved most are for the honest confession of dev in front of his daugther about the pain which he gives sona 7 years, back and explaination about bijoy's behaviour. Reality dev have his own limitation but he has the honestly and he knows where he went wrong up what extend we will get to know in future episodes.

Now for golu 🤗🤗 he is the reason that's, why dev was stil alive in the absence of sona. Ishu please learn from this child how to shares the love and respect the relation and how, to go into other person's shose and understand him or her. By the way well done ex gkb you have played your move quite smartly. Keep it up. At the end, of the sona's 8 days stay you will make, sure dev and soha, is away from ishu and, dev , sona and soha will be one team. And, your red will definatly help you. By the way jatin I hope you will understand that sona and soha will be with dev so if you don't want an heart break so just ingnore baba bose and stike to best friend. So guyes get ready for final show down between ishu and dev where she will support mami and vicki and will lose her son Atlest for some days because unless and until she will not learn her lesson and ishu sudharo will not start and to complete it required atlest 100 episodes.

Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago

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_Payalj_

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Posted: 8 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: JShukla
Oh Payal ! Absolutely. We met in beliefs at a lot of points including how Boses were incorrect in a few instances.
Not sure where, but I have definitely posted a lot of wrongs of the Boses and Sona too. However when I do a 'versus' analysis I fall short with regards to Dev's side.

Bijoy was absolutely wrong when he decided to run away with Soha. Now Soha has learnt a life lesson - Do a zidd and win. Not a good one!

Sona was trying to help Neha's situation as per her terms. For Sona money is non -entity. isn't it kind of same with most educated women/men too.(Pise ka kya hai- education hai , hard work ki capacity hai, kama lenge, aj nahi to kal :-)))

However she failed to realize and view it from Neha's POV. Neha didn't have it in her to go out and earn her lifestyle. And she did put a lot of onus on material confort.

But in defence of Sona , I'll say Sonakshi didn't go and outright create issues, She considered Neha as her own and wanted to solve the problem... it back fired coz she had very high opinion(false one) of her problem solving capacity.

Other than that I feel she has been pretty ok, faulty a little but never mean and spiteful. She did put a lot of hard work in to her marriage. But the continuous insults and disparing remarks got to her... happens.

Sorry for the late reply. There is no question about the fact that Dev's errors were much much more in comparison to Sonakshi and were the cause of breaking of their marriage.

I really don't like when sona still gets google eyed in front of him. He first needs to accept his mistakes in front of Sonakshi not only in front of Soha and then ensure that they are not repeated again. He needs to take a stand in front of his family for Sona.

In the matter of Neha, however I would maintain that her errors were suicidal and contributed to some extent to destruction of her marriage. It was not a matter of good intentions. It was a matter of respecting the boundaries which Sona didn't understand and ended up with sworn enmity of Neha.

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Tardis

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Posted: 8 years ago

#57

I guess my doubt is cleared. Thank you guys..🤗

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Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#58

In today's episode the person I loved the most was "GOLU". He was the best and gave an important lesson to Ishwari. If she can understand even 10% of what Golu said, something good will happen to Ishwari. 😆

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

#59

Hey all! Wow, so much wonderful discussion to catch up on already, and then there's the lovely episode on top of that. I will come back to today's episode in a bit, but first I wanted to share something that I have been observing about Dev's behaviour. This is in regard to the discussion that originated with Lavanya's question: why is Dev's behaviour with Ishwari inconsistent?

Dev 2.0 is a lot like Neha. He has seen Ishwari's true face and he no longer goes out of his way to please her. And when he is at the edge of his wits, he calls her out on her hypocrisy. However, he enjoys those instances when he is able to please Ishwari just by being himself. That is precisely what he tried to tell her in the first few episodes after the leap: your Dev hasn't gone anywhere, but he won't live for others anymore. Translation: please accept me for who I am. As Ishwari has shown, she is incapable of that; she wants her children's happiness on her terms.

It was similar with Neha when Ranveer came on the scene. What Ishwari saw was that despite all of her shortcomings in raising Neha, the latter chose integrity over wealth when it came to deciding her life partner. Ishwari saw this as a victory and blinded herself to the problems that Neha could face in her marriage. As a result, she blinded herself and caused a lot of indirect damage. The best example of this is when she told Ranveer not to buy Neha gifts after he had bought her those earrings; she wanted so badly to believe that Neha had been "cured" of her materialistic desires (or at least declaring them out loud) and was therefore Ishwari's daughter in the true sense.

Also, much like Neha, Dev's one sincere relationship is as a foster parent. Just like Neha didn't allow her bitterness to affect Riya and Nikki, Dev shares that innocent and vulnerable part of himself with Golu. And just like Riya and Nikki, Golu forgets his biological parents in front of Dev, his primary caregiver. I think these are important echoes, and I'd love to believe Neha had a conscious role in those early years after Sona left, but even if not, understanding her character really helps to see Dev's oscillation between cynicism and hope.

Just like Ranveer's love initially made Neha happy enough to overlook the problems she had with Ishwari, finding out about Soha had a similar effect on Dev. Truth be told, his attitude towards Sona also changed, the only difference being that he knew right away that Ishwari hadn't kept him from his child on purpose. He still wasn't sure that Sona wasn't doing that, so his anger would rear its head every time that fear cropped up. Now that he is certain Sona isn't trying to separate Soha from him, he isn't angry at her either, nor is he very interested in discussing the past. He is solely concerned with being a good parent to Soha.