*Season 2, Week 7* Analysis Thread

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thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#21

Thank you for starting the thread Sam

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sona_naksh

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Posted: 8 years ago

#22

@Sam ...amazing pov once again ..loved reading it

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havima

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: ashakd

I got the same feeling as you, when I noticed the divorcee deed missing from the files. My heart was thrilled with the hope that they have not divorced. Its after that I paid attention to the many many dialogues between them and each time they only say 'hum alag hue' they never say jab se humarah divorcee hua hai, so my little heart takes some pleasure just like you in hoping there has never been a divorce.

If thy are only separated nd not divorced, does tht mean tht thy can have diff partners now. If not Dev will become a horrible example of infidelity having known all along tht thy are not divorced. Or the writers might take another safe route of making Dev confess to sona tht he was ' just friends' with all those ladies he dated nd was holding a torch for her these 7 yrs. Need some clarification on tht

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Shaun

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Posted: 8 years ago

#24

Congratulations Ladies !!!

The Analysis Thread is one Excellent thread

Thank you Sam once again for introducing this thread to our forum

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ashakd

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: havima

If thy are only separated nd not divorced, does tht mean tht thy can have diff partners now. If not Dev will become a horrible example of infidelity having known all along tht thy are not divorced. Or the writers might take another safe route of making Dev confess to sona tht he was ' just friends' with all those ladies he dated nd was holding a torch for her these 7 yrs. Need some clarification on tht

Let me explain my understanding, that they are not divorced but separated.

The reasons being :

They dont stay together for the last 7 years,

They have never spoken of maintenance, ( of course prenup will play a role in this)

They has been no communication between them in the last 7 years,

Time and again they mention Sona never turned back after she left,

They would have atleast met sometime or the other in the court for the divorce to take place,and Dev would have definitely seen the baby bumb?

Indian courts take about 1 year to give a divorce ( mutual consent if there are no criminal allegations) and at the time of the announcement by the judge, both the partners should be available in the court...Sona showed her face only with a 6 month baby...eh?

Its only because of these reasons, I think there has been no divorce and only separation. But I wont be surprised they may insert a flash back scene later on.

Now about finding new partners, I guess someone in the past mentioned in this forum, that if a couple dont stay together for 7 years, then they can be considered as divorced. I am not sure about this.

Bijoy and Ishwari are busy hunting new partners, may be they feel if for 7 years they never looked back and tried to contact each other, then may they are not interested in continuing this relationship.

But the end of the day, the cvs may just turn the tables and you never know what will be portrayed, but as Sam mentioned in her post,Season 2 is left open in many places to let people think and imagine ...

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Deepa

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Uff finally I managed to ditch my family and steal an hour on Sunday noon to read the previous thread and this 😆 because I need privacy and calm mind to grasp on the wonderful views inside here😊.

First things first Congratulations to all beautiful souls here for the new thread and new week of exciting discussions 🤗 Thank you Sam and DQ !!

So many interesting views but I have to make a special mention of "Payal's" garden analogy wrt Sonakshi side of reasoning in previous thread..thoroughly enjoyed reading it !!👏

I always love reading about Ishwari because she was my first favorite character when this serial started and Sam I loved your post on her in first page👍🏼. My anger aside for butchering her character, I did ponder over that dialog " Golu brought back that little happiness in Dev's life and I didn't want Sona to spoil it again by coming back" . Oddly enough I felt some genuinity in her reasoning that instance because all she saw in Dev- Sona relationship is hurt for Dev (I know its majorly because of her but mother's eye sees only what it want to see especially with insecure eyes like Ishwari's ) . According to Ishwari, Dev started lying , hiding, compromising pain (jhula), loosing patience, questioning her thoughts (vrat) all because of Sona since nothing of this sort happened in Dev's life before. According to her he was living a peaceful life as a giver to this family willingly and she filled the gap of his happiness wherever required with her cooking and mamta. She did wanted Sona to stay thick and skin like Elena for Dev if she claims to love him more than his mother, so when Sona left her theory proved true that no one can make Dev happy like her! However leaving Sona left a deep void in her son which she couldn't fill and Golu came. Ishwari got a lifeline to get her son back to older ways slowly and steadily and didn't want to rock that steadying boat with allowing Sona inside. And constant blaming on Sona for not looking back is her way of keeping that sailing in check. I am not trying to justify Ishwari's actions here but merely trying to understand how genuine that dialog was !!😳

Now coming to the most important debate in last thread.."Was Dev celibate ?"😆 (Super likes to all who discussed about this 🤣)

I will say Dev is definitely not celibate but red chilly didn't enter any other honey pot either🤣. So thats make him alive and human for modern thinkers and faithful for conservative audience as well 😆

So yes I don't think Devakshi are divorced 😎 (Nowadays am used to eating humble pies, so bring it on CVs😉😆)

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Deepa

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Posted: 8 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: gmgi
Deeps 🤣
Poor Dev 😆

Geena🤗 How are you feeling now honey ?

See I can't see Dev unfaithful as am old school in believing infidelity is directly proportional to casual flings but I also can't hate Dev still here so this option works best naa 😉 Win win for both 🤣

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Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#28

Wonderful analysis Sam and Deepa on Ishwari. 👏 👏 . It makes complete sense and somehow I was thinking similar way. My thoughts were more on Ishwari's realization. 😊

For Ishwari Sonakshi was the "perceived threat" from whom she was trying to protect Dev. Any time she does something and is questioned, her answer is 'maine kya kiya. Maine jo kuch bhi kits who Dev ki balayi or liye kiya'. That is the reason why she does not think she did anything wrong and she was not the reason for their separation.

My guess is this is where Soha will play a big role. As Ishwari's want of meeting Soha will increase she will start doing things ignoring Dev's words. She will try to get her without Sonakshi but that is not going to happen. But this will also allow Sonakshi a view into the changed equation between Dev and Ishwari.

Once Soha is kind of part of Dev's life, Vickky and GKB will be even more rattled. They will try to harm Soha bringing Dev to forefront in protecting her. Dev might not have really thought much about who tried to kill him, but will definitely not be quiet regarding the person who tried to hurt Soha. This truth of Vickky will be the first break of Ishwari's illusions. This will make her question her 'perceived threat' vs the 'actual threat'.

Ishwari's idea that Sonakshi is the threat came from her being the 'outsider'. From Ishwari's story she wanted to protect him from external threats assuming that they are the ones that will hurt Dev. Her belief is family will not hurt him as they love him. But with Vickky trying to harm Soha and the revelation of it to Ishwari will make her question her grasp of the threat to Dev which in turn will make her question her decisions she made on behalf of Dev and the lies she told.

As more truths of Vickky and GKB come to light, the more Ishwari's illusions will break leading for Ishwari's realization of her role in Dev Sonakshi's separation and how her manipulations led to the damaging of Dev's real happiness.

I also wanted to talk about Ishwari's look on Friday's episode when Dev says no one is to meet Suhana. At that time there are multiple emotions shown on Ishwari's face and her look. It was as though she felt like she was seeing him for the first time after a long time. As if she was asking herself "is this my son Dev?. The one who would move heaven and earth to fulfill my every wish no matter how unreasonable they were. For whom my happiness was more important than anything or anyone". The look also kind of had a question. She was asking herself "is he telling the truth. Did I actually take away his happiness as he is saying. Am I the one responsible for his sadness and pain".

Apart from this the other point of interest for me was Ishwari accepting the truth regarding sending Sonakshi away. She could have easily lied and said that Sonakshi had never come or she does not know who sent her back or any of the reasons that she usually gave. But this time Ishwari chose to tell the truth which is huge change for her.

I feel this is important that when Ishwari admitted the truth Sonakshi was there. This seems like a prelude when the question of prenup will come up. Previously Sonakshi did not believe Dev when he said he did not know about it. But this time when he repeats his innocence regarding it, Sonakshi might give him a benefit of doubt and also Ishwari might accept that it was her doing...

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timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#29

Wonderful analysis on ishu by sam, deepa and shaavi

I agree with some, points, but not with some. Some, how, I am not able to see the genuine concern about dev when she sends, back sona 6 years ago. And my reason for this is when sona, came back it must be more then 1 year after there separation according to the, flashback dev has already away from the his mother the momvent he know about the pernup and almost next day the first conferentstion has happen and after that there must be significant change in dev's behaviour which must be, giveing her clear indication that now she, is, not dev's god. Onr thing is, possible that may be, with golu's entry he may spend more time in ishu niwas as golu was small. But I am doughtful that he was giving the god status to his mother. So instade of concern for his son I feel the, fear and insecurity and selfishess plays an important role, and, it get labeled by protection shield for his son from the, pain.

This is same like sneche his childhood. I know, it was a difficult for her to get survived without her housband and take care of his children but I am having an objection on her thinking where she manipulated the, truth and make sure that dev follws her, instruction for eg. In one of her flashbacks when dev was, playing by bunking the school and, happy and give him lesson she make sure that she get slapped where she was, working as, a maid, and this whole incident get known by dev which gives, her the, impact what she want but she snech his childhood dreams, and simple happiness to play. She used dev to become rich. I agree she want to get the security from money point of view but she don't care about the dev's childhood and his youth. Before sona was in the, picture she don't care about her son is working like a hell after getting sufficient amount of money. After getting the sufficient amount of money she, never want to give or happiness to dev which he lost in the, process to achieve it. But allowed others to use his money who don't deserve it. Some how she knows that she, is, not a good mother as, neha, gives, her that feel but she want the, she is the perfect mother. For her she, should get constant appraisal from other abut her handwork is required. Here I am not disrespecting her struggle but the was not the one who has do the struggle but dev and neha also done, it but this what I understand.

She constantly gives her assurance that what ever she had done was correct. And dev and mamaji has given her feel this creates a bubble in which she is not able to see her in the imperfect human.

Her fear is that what if she get proved as a bad mother by dev and by others and may be this need important because may be she was not a good wife as they have never show her and dev's fathers relation. So we are not having the idea

And at this movement dev has given up on her and still she is, not able to accept the truth because the truth will make her a bad mother who is responsible for pain in her son's life.

Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago

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siddhi.d123

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Posted: 8 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: ashakd

Let me explain my understanding, that they are not divorced but separated.
The reasons being :
They dont stay together for the last 7 years,
They have never spoken of maintenance, ( of course prenup will play a role in this)
They has been no communication between them in the last 7 years,
Time and again they mention Sona never turned back after she left,
They would have atleast met sometime or the other in the court for the divorce to take place,and Dev would have definitely seen the baby bumb?
Indian courts take about 1 year to give a divorce ( mutual consent if there are no criminal allegations) and at the time of the announcement by the judge, both the partners should be available in the court...Sona showed her face only with a 6 month baby...eh?

Its only because of these reasons, I think there has been no divorce and only separation. But I wont be surprised they may insert a flash back scene later on.


Now about finding new partners, I guess someone in the past mentioned in this forum, that if a couple dont stay together for 7 years, then they can be considered as divorced. I am not sure about this.


Bijoy and Ishwari are busy hunting new partners, may be they feel if for 7 years they never looked back and tried to contact each other, then may they are not interested in continuing this relationship.


But the end of the day, the cvs may just turn the tables and you never know what will be portrayed, but as Sam mentioned in her post,Season 2 is left open in many places to let people think and imagine ...

Well you are right season 2 is open ended I still think they didn't plan this leap through so there are many loop holes.Actually the scene where Sona returns with Soha to the Dixit mansion seemed a last minute addition to me as many ppl were questioning Sona's character for hiding such a big thing from Dev for me it looked totally haphazard.About divorce they might show a flashback or we just have to assume.Regarding finding new partners or Dev's inappropriate behaviour let's see what CV's about it as they can turn the tables any way they want.

Edited by siddhi.d123 - 8 years ago