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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: randomramblings


nice thought PK. i totally agree with you, while doing my engineering, in my state we had 30% of the seats reserved for females and due to that, we got to chose better branch of study. once we joined the college, most of my female class mates would hate the labs we had to do manual work siting that they are females and cannot endure the strain. i used to laugh at them at say , you are willing to take the privilege then why do you shun away from the responsibility. i was considered an outcast for having such thoughts .. hehehee...

same goes with office work, when a male colleague can put in long hrs, why can't you. people say women are expected to share more responsibilities in a family, but that is not true. even coming to kids, there is no hard and fast rule that only mother can take care of sick child or cater to their needs. i have personally seen my uncle who would take care of his infant baby while his wife used to work in night shifts so that she could get additional day offs to stay with the baby on other days.

its just that we woman love to be treated as princesses/queens but we are reluctant to accept that fact that these roles need us have additional responsibility. A true feminist will never agree to biasedness. she does not look for opportunities to use her gender as a trump card to get away with things.

Agreed, that the physical build of a male and female may not allow us to do all chores, but the mental/emotional build will always propel us to realize this and then look for alternatives. when you want a right, it comes with a underlying responsibility. they are 2 sides of the same coin.



totally agree with you randomramblings. 👏 Yes this happens everywhere too. And it hurts me as a feminist to see women seeking advantage of being a woman That is SO NOT what feminism demands. 😡 And this is why people are growing adverse thoughts against it when all feminism demands is 'equality' - nothing more, nothing less. 😊


Hope one day we would really apply relativity and would stop putting each action of a woman under microscope when we have a sky-limit size of a list to blame the man for a disaster.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Sonakshi couldn't share the news of Soha with Dev or ANY of the Dixits, precisely the reasons you mentioned for Andromeda.

There are 2 aspects here -


1. Sona's decision to never return back to shitty Dixits - 200% support on this decision. Not going into the reasons BEHIND this decision, but for once lets look into the impact of not having this decision... How many of you here think Dev's attitude towards Ishwari would have remained the same as before if his marriage would have worked out with Sona ? For once, I do. Not just the pre-nup, it took a good SEPARATION for Dev to come out of his bubble world and show Ishwari the mirror which he always preferred avoiding doing. In no way Dev would have come out of Ishwari's spell if Dev's not hit with separation. 😛 Hence, there won't be much of a point to discuss if Sona had not left Dev. Literally NOTHING would have changed.



2. Sona's decision to not inform Dev on Soha - Little did Sona know about the changes in Dev's behaviour towards Ishwari. When she left him, Dev was this spineless mommy's puppet. Sona knew Ishwari wanted a grandchild BADLY. Sona knew Dev could go to any length to support and fulfill Ishwari's wish. And Sona knew staying with Dev would do no good - combining the fact, it is not rocket science to deduce that Soha could either be with Sona OR be with Dev. And there wasn't an IOTA of doubt that Dev would have snatched the kid from Sona by hook or by crook. Even today we can see that coming 🤣 Forget about 7 yrs back Dev.



Acc. to me, unless Dev changes himself and becomes a sober guy to even look at, Sona shouldn't share the news with Dev at all. How would it feel for Soha to see her dad in torn jeans and playing with women 🤔. Oh or are we expecting Soha to change Dev now ? What expectations man 🤣 First Sona needed to 'understand' and change Dev. Now Soha needs to do the same. The world should fall on Dev Dixit's feet to 'try' to make him 'change'. 🤡 Nonsense !
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: tia.o

Thank you for sharing your experience. I agree with you that it's easier to talk about fiction but people who have experienced that fiction or have seen any of their loved ones going through the same situation truly can understand the consequences and get the true picture.

I am daughter of a single mother whose father tried to take her away from her mother because my mother refused to go back to him a third time (she went back to him twice for my sake). He made her life really difficult for (ironically enough) 7 years by constantly dragging her to the court in a divorce proceedings which should have taken 7 days since she didn't ask for anything - no alimony, no child support. She even left behind every single thing he and his family gave her.

If my father's own sisters had not come to the court and spoken on my mother's behalf, she would have gone bankrupt trying to keep me with her while getting a divorce. It costs money to hire a lawyer. They don't come free. Because of my father's family's support, my mother is still part of their family although my father himself is estranged from them. My father's sisters are still my mother's best friends, and she theirs.

So like you, when I hear that Sonakshi, knowing Dev had thrown out her family on the street and said nasty things about her, her identity as a woman, mocked her sacrifices and her love should have gone to Dev to tell him about Soha, I think to myself if these people have even any idea what reality is.

Reality is that a homeless, indebted, pregnant woman can't afford to go to court to fight a custody battle with a millionaire.

Reality is that a betrayed woman doesn't owe anything to the man who betrayed her over and over again with lies and broken promises and never looked back to see if she was alive or dead.

Reality is that a single woman with her family's responsibility on her shoulder doesn't have time nor inclination to decide if she should deal fairly with someone who always treated her unfairly when she was handed a pre-nup by that person, signed by that person which explicitly mentions that person's choice.




Tia, I think it's very easy to sit in the comfort our homes and judge the characters on the television whilst having the faintest idea of what it is like to really go through similar experiences in life. Since the beginning of the second season, I had been so wishing to see that sense of apathy and indifference for Dev in the eyes of Sonakshi. Not that I root for love stories, but sometimes our very experience of having our heart burnt in love makes us so much more a better and stronger person and that's more beautiful than the naivety of giving up oneself in love. In my opinion, if there is one thing for which Dev can never be redeemed, it's in his not taking an effort to reach out to her knowing that it's only and only because of him and his family that Sonakshi and her family were on the streets. And again, how lightly do people take the realty of being homeless and starting your journey all over from rags! If Dev didn't reach out to Sonakshi, then neither Sonakshi did, so both are at wrong. How convenient is this logic. Do people even have the slightest idea of the different circumstances that the two were at the point in time?

Dev years for Sonakshi and that is a truth that will never change. Sonakshi yearned for Dev till a point of time, but the birth of Soha freed her from the chains of Dev and thereafter she had a newfound reason to look forward to life.Though it's silly to equate fiction with reality, karma played its part by giving Sonakshi that strength to rise up in the form of Soha and on the other hand Dev had to pay for all his deeds by suffering within whilst having a complete makeover on the outside.

@bold, how true is that! Dev wouldn't have left a stone unturned to snatch Soha from Sonakshi whilst giving a damn to the the girl who gave up on his love. How could she? It's such a pity that we have people around who believe in glorifying their love even when the same love strangles the other person.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

Sonakshi couldn't share the news of Soha with Dev or ANY of the Dixits, precisely the reasons you mentioned for Andromeda.

There are 2 aspects here -


1. Sona's decision to never return back to shitty Dixits - 200% support on this decision. Not going into the reasons BEHIND this decision, but for once lets look into the impact of not having this decision... How many of you here think Dev's attitude towards Ishwari would have remained the same as before if his marriage would have worked out with Sona ? For once, I do. Not just the pre-nup, it took a good SEPARATION for Dev to come out of his bubble world and show Ishwari the mirror which he always preferred avoiding doing. In no way Dev would have come out of Ishwari's spell if Dev's not hit with separation. 😛 Hence, there won't be much of a point to discuss if Sona had not left Dev. Literally NOTHING would have changed.



2. Sona's decision to not inform Dev on Soha - Little did Sona know about the changes in Dev's behaviour towards Ishwari. When she left him, Dev was this spineless mommy's puppet. Sona knew Ishwari wanted a grandchild BADLY. Sona knew Dev could go to any length to support and fulfill Ishwari's wish. And Sona knew staying with Dev would do no good - combining the fact, it is not rocket science to deduce that Soha could either be with Sona OR be with Dev. And there wasn't an IOTA of doubt that Dev would have snatched the kid from Sona by hook or by crook. Even today we can see that coming 🤣 Forget about 7 yrs back Dev.



Acc. to me, unless Dev changes himself and becomes a sober guy to even look at, Sona shouldn't share the news with Dev at all. How would it feel for Soha to see her dad in torn jeans and playing with women 🤔. Oh or are we expecting Soha to change Dev now ? What expectations man 🤣 First Sona needed to 'understand' and change Dev. Now Soha needs to do the same. The world should fall on Dev Dixit's feet to 'try' to make him 'change'. 🤡 Nonsense !

Bang on PK!!!👏👏
Exactly.Why is Sona always expected to be patient and understand Dev?? Why is Sona expected to change Dev's thinking?? Why does everyone have so many expectations from Sona??

Kabhi toh kuch Dev se bhi expect kar liya karo.Or is the great Dev Dixit that incompetent that nothing good can be expected of him??
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ---Andromeda---

Bang on PK!!!👏👏

Exactly.Why is Sona always expected to be patient and understand Dev?? Why is Sona expected to change Dev's thinking?? Why does everyone have so many expectations from Sona??

Kabhi toh kuch Dev se bhi expect kar liya karo.Or is the great Dev Dixit that incompetent that nothing good can be expected of him??

Yaar this is the first thing I am not able to understand why soha will change Dev or Dev when he will know about his daughter will change
Then what was devakshi so called love for
Honestly this story would have far better and beautiful if they would have portrayed soha as adopted daughter not as biological
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: gemini54

O God I ventured out and posted something in another thr ad and out comes the negative people comment again. Tia can you please hit me with the same stick that the goondas hit Dev if I venture out of your thread please.

So stating anything against this serial, leap , Dev and pro Sona is negative and posts which wax poetic of you know who and call it analyses is positive please save me from this positivity. OH and the real kicker Dev and Sona are realistic flawed people...hmmm can these realistically flawed people really live happy together..I wonder..but of course I am negative so cannot even wonder 😆

Yep that happened to me as well. I was disturbed with sonas doormat behaviour towards ish sometime back and I posted that. Someone said that I'm making negative post
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Posted: 8 years ago
I'm going to bookmark this post because it's such a gem! Every single perspective. How rare it is that women leads and characters are supported more than the MLs and with such eloquence?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I'm going to bookmark this post because it's such a gem! Every single perspective. How rare it is that women leads and characters are supported more than the MLs and with such eloquence? </font>




Well this might be the first one and let me try to find the reason why. May be because when the initial promos aired, it attracted a lot of mature and aged audience and not just a bunch of teens/fangirls. With a new female lead opposite an established ML, it was difficult for Erica to deliver and earn the same amount of reactions from audience. But as I said, this show having many mature audiences, were ready to differentiate the reel and the real. The fact that now all actors are of same per and excellence is different thing and added bonus. But the point is, those set of audience hardly moved from reel to real and had been stuck with the characterizations and roles 😃 . And when the audience of a show is able to focus more on the storyline, characters etc, of course the judgment would be more relevant and proper. That's why the female lead, for a change, has become more popular due to the characterization, and so did her wonderful family. This thread is hardly filled with fan comments, although almost everyone of us is Shaheer/Erica and Supriya P fan 😉 . This is a more scientific thread you can say which thrives on the laws of 'relativity' 'every action has an equal and opposite reaction' or 'gravity' (who is pulling whom down 😆 ) etc. 😳 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
I've seen many girls on different forums stating that girls have to be more understanding even when the guy is totally a jerk, What! Why should we!! Are we angels born only to change someone else's life!! I guess many girls want to watch such FL's on TV who can be so idealistic in a way that they are literally sages/angels without an iota of normal human feelings like pain and anger. It is impossible and when the CV's try to be a bit realistic and show the FL to be a bit strong then the severe backlash starts that how can the jerk ML be treated so cruelly!!

When previously I was involved in such discussions, I felt really upset on how so many girls aren't able to understand such a simple concept as equality. I really pity them. I'm really lucky as we're two daughters who are the world to our parents. This year I might get married and my parents are worried about the changes that would take place in my life. I do know that being a good DIL isn't enough as I would also need a supportive hubby and MIL who would understand me and accept me the way I am. For me, there are three things most important in married life, mutual respect, trust and honesty. I believe these three things are the necessities which keep a couple together for a lifetime.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I agree with you. You know in India love and sacrifice are glorified. Just look at our epics, books and movies. But LIFE which we get once and which is the most precious thing in the world is not valued enough. People are perfectly fine in believing on ideology which says to waste precious life and valuable time by staying put in a toxic atmosphere or pining for lost love and regret at old age that we could have just chosen to be happy.

Life, once it's gone both love and sacrifice are meaningless. Simple reason - You are dead. You don't exist even for your family. Nowhere, Nada...

So all these precious time, when every second of our life is trickling away, do we want to waste it moping or grab happiness with both hands - whatever it may be.

When I was a young, I was asked to write an essay in school on "What I wanted to be when I grew up". You know the same one we all have written one point of time or other. I had written, I wanted to be happy. My teacher said to me that she wanted me to write which profession I wanted to be in. I said to her that I don't know yet because I change my mind every week. But one thing I am sure of is that whatever profession I choose, or whatever I do, I just want to be happy.

Well, I didn't get a very good marks in that essay. I only had got D and only because of writing, grammer, punctuation etc and lost all points at concept. But I still think that was one of the most honest essay I had written because I still just want to be happy.

So when in doubt, an idealistic person who glorifies sacrifices, will tell you choose other's happiness.

I choose my own happiness. Because if I am not happy, how will I make or keep others happy?

It's like airplane oxygen mask, save yourself first so that you can save others.

Originally posted by: aadk


Tia, I think it's very easy to sit in the comfort our homes and judge the characters on the television whilst having the faintest idea of what it is like to really go through similar experiences in life. Since the beginning of the second season, I had been so wishing to see that sense of apathy and indifference for Dev in the eyes of Sonakshi. Not that I root for love stories, but sometimes our very experience of having our heart burnt in love makes us so much more a better and stronger person and that's more beautiful than the naivety of giving up oneself in love. In my opinion, if there is one thing for which Dev can never be redeemed, it's in his not taking an effort to reach out to her knowing that it's only and only because of him and his family that Sonakshi and her family were on the streets. And again, how lightly do people take the realty of being homeless and starting your journey all over from rags! If Dev didn't reach out to Sonakshi, then neither Sonakshi did, so both are at wrong. How convenient is this logic. Do people even have the slightest idea of the different circumstances that the two were at the point in time?


Dev years for Sonakshi and that is a truth that will never change. Sonakshi yearned for Dev till a point of time, but the birth of Soha freed her from the chains of Dev and thereafter she had a newfound reason to look forward to life.Though it's silly to equate fiction with reality, karma played its part by giving Sonakshi that strength to rise up in the form of Soha and on the other hand Dev had to pay for all his deeds by suffering within whilst having a complete makeover on the outside.

@bold, how true is that! Dev wouldn't have left a stone unturned to snatch Soha from Sonakshi whilst giving a damn to the the girl who gave up on his love. How could she? It's such a pity that we have people around who believe in glorifying their love even when the same love strangles the other person.

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