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Posted: 8 years ago
#61
Is it legally a crime? No. Is it morally or ethically wrong? Yes.

A father has the right to know about his child. He has the right to experience the joy of fatherhood.

Was Sonakshi wrong in keeping her child away from his father in terms of ethics and morality? Yes.

Now let's break it down.

Sonakshi mortgaged her parents's entire life savings to pay back the unwanted loan her brother and husband set up behind her back for which her parents were humiliated and her father "accidentally" physically assaulted.

Now the question is does a daughter has the right to risk her parents being dragged to the street, their entire life savings gone for the sake of doing the right thing to the man who has never done the right thing for her?

We all know what Dev is capable of. Is it too far fetched to imagine knowing what Sonakshi and Bose family know that to get his child he will force Sonakshi's parents on the street and block all their way out until they hand over his child? He took away Sonakshi's job and closed all her ways so that she can be his mother's nutritionist, he also took away the job he requested Ranveer to take when he refused to dance to his sister's bidding.

So does Sonakshi, the daughter, has the right to put her parents's respect and dignity under Dev's power to be crushed again for doing what Sonakshi, the wife and mother, should do in the normal circumstances?

Say if the situation was reversed and Dev had to choose between risking his family's potential ruin and doing the right thing to Sonakshi, what would you expect him to do? And would you blame him if he chose his family over Sonakshi then?

Secondly, Sonakshi was handed a pre-nup which clearly stated that at the event of divorce, her or her child from the marriage will not have any claim on Dev or Dev's property which was signed and handed to her by Dev. There is no reason for her to believe that all this happened without his consent.

So if a woman is told that she is the biggest mistake of her husband's life, called a gold-digger, home-wrecker, told that she pretended to be a good wife and it's good that she is barren because she will make a bad mother, and handed a pre-nup with a clause that excludes her and any child she has from any claim to her husband and the child's father and his property, she should still think what is that man's right as a father?

Are we talking human being here or Saint? Because no human being would after all that will think about the man's rights.

I am happy to see that Sonakshi, unlike Saint like TV bahus, is a very human.

However, there is another person's rights to consider. That is of her daughter to know her father. So when the daughter was old enough to understand, she told her daughter the truth and gave her the choice.

She is still young enough to create memories with her father if she wants but old enough to make a choice.

Sonakshi could have waited until she was an adult or until Dev met Soha and she was forced to reveal the truth. But she told her the truth now without caring for her own heartbreak if Soha chooses her father.

She also could have poisoned her mind with every single thing that happened with her since Dev came into her life and everything would have been truth and very effective to keep Soha with her permanently. But she did not do that.

So in my book, Sonakshi not only is an excellent mother, but also an excellent daughter and sister. She didn't neglect her responsibility to her family just because she got married.




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: noor.21



Dev would not snatch the child. That is not him. He would never do anything to consciously hurt Sona, consciously. I agree he is oblivious of a lot of things. Also in the future track, I am sure Dev may be angry, may consider taking the child, but will finally not take the child away from Sona. He won't hurt her. That would make him a bad person, which he obviously is not. Also I don't think he would be a "womanizer" if he had something to hold on to. The child. Even now, once he is aware of her existence, he will have something to look forward to and all that jazz will disappear.

About what Sona could have done? That is not my issue. My issue is that we all dissect each and everything done against Sona. Rightly so. But from someone as ideal as Sona, morally correct behavior is expected. When she doesn't do that, that deviance should be pointed out too.


Well we know what Dev is capable when his position is threatened. The true colours of a person comes to the fore when pushed between the rock and a hard place. We are merely making assumptions on how Dev would have reacted had he known he had an offspring. What is hurt? Isn't throwing the girl you truly love out of the house unceremoniously hurting her? It is easy to find a scapegoat for your vices - a very common excuse is to always blame the women when things go wrong. Would we say the same had Sona become wayward with her liaisons? so let us be fair and not blame Sona for his womanising ways. He is an adult. If Sona who is younger and less experienced than him could build her life out of nothing, so can he. He has done it in the past and doing it again is no big deal. Hasn't his mother been his anchor all his life and even when there was trouble he made it clear with whom his priorities lay. So he had his mother as his anchor. So citing that he became a womanizer had he something to hold does not hold water.

Sure Sona may have her faults and so does the Dixits. The latter have more clout and power. This is like David pitted against Goliath.

Regarding Morals, the court of law does not look for morals but facts. So when we are talking of a crime here, Sona could charge Dev with Desertion. So Sona has reasons for why she did, what she did.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o


Say if the situation was reversed and Dev had to choose between risking his family's potential ruin and doing the right thing to Sonakshi, what would you expect him to do? And would you blame him if he chose his family over Sonakshi then?





Don't we all blame him for that? That he upholds his family over Sonakshi.

Also Dev is a grey character, not black. He wouldn't take the child away. That track may come in the future.

While Sona is a good mother, for her to be excellent she should have told Dev. I know the story doesn't allow that easily. But then again, this should be considered.

There is nothing that proves that Dev would have been a bad father. He is infact a father figure to a child who has full functioning normal parents. Only a bad father should be denied access to his child.

Hate dev as much as you want, but don't be blind to Sona's shortcomings.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyLaLa


Well we know what Dev is capable when his position is threatened. The true colours of a person comes to the fore when pushed between the rock and a hard place. We are merely making assumptions on how Dev would have reacted had he known he had an offspring. What is hurt? Isn't throwing the girl you truly love out of the house unceremoniously hurting her? It is easy to find a scapegoat for your vices - a very common excuse is to always blame the women when things go wrong. Would we say the same had Sona become wayward with her liaisons? so let us be fair and not blame Sona for his womanising ways. He is an adult. If Sona who is younger and less experienced than him could build her life out of nothing, so can he. He has done it in the past and doing it again is no big deal. Hasn't his mother been his anchor all his life and even when there was trouble he made it clear with whom his priorities lay. So he had his mother as his anchor. So citing that he became a womanizer had he something to hold does not hold water.

Sure Sona may have her faults and so does the Dixits. The latter have more clout and power. This is like David pitted against Goliath.

Regarding Morals, the court of law does not look for morals but facts. So when we are talking of a crime here, Sona could charge Dev with Desertion. So Sona has reasons for why she did, what she did.


I am a true blue feminist and I don't look at thing through the prism of gender. So if Sona was painting the town by dating everyone to hide her hurt. At least I wouldn't call a loose person. Also we yet don't know how much of the womanizer Dev is. Maybe dating is his way of finding his joy. Lets not judge that. About the court of law, consciously dening a parent right to their child amounts to kidnapping even if it by the other parent.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: noor.21


I am a true blue feminist and I don't look at thing through the prism of gender. So if Sona was painting the town by dating everyone to hide her hurt. At least I wouldn't call a loose person. Also we yet don't know how much of the womanizer Dev is. Maybe dating is his way of finding his joy. Lets not judge that. About the court of law, consciously dening a parent right to their child amounts to kidnapping even if it by the other parent.


As indicated in my first post, there are lots of holes in the story . We do not know if the divorce was sealed officially. Only after that can be truly see the whole picture. Kidnapping? How can it be kidnapping when one parent did not even know the existence of a child? It may be concealing but not kidnapping.

Lets give the benefit of the doubt to both parties. None has committed a crime so far. So until and unless proven otherwise, Sona is right in doing what she did because she would have feared that Dixits would deprive her of her daughter. For all we know, tomorrow, Dev may even question the paternity of the child when he comes to know of Sona's daughter. As per him she had a very, very slim chance of conceiving. So her may well end up doubting her morals. he may totally deny that the daughter is his. So lets wait how the cards are laid out.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyLaLa


As indicated in my first post, there are lots of holes in the story . We do not know if the divorce was sealed officially. Only after that can be truly see the whole picture. Kidnapping? How can it be kidnapping when one parent did not even know the existence of a child? It may be concealing but not kidnapping.

Lets give the benefit of the doubt to both parties. None has committed a crime so far. So until and unless proven otherwise, Sona is right in doing what she did because she would have feared that Dixits would deprive her of her daughter. For all we know, tomorrow, Dev may even question the paternity of the child when he comes to know of Sona's daughter. As per him she had a very, very slim chance of conceiving. So her may well end up doubting her morals. he may totally deny that the daughter is his. So lets wait how the cards are laid out.



Stop hating on one character so much that you have thought of an alternate future where he is doing everything wrong. Questioning paternity? seriously she has 7% chance, he is fertile. Doesn't he alway say that she is better than him. He has said that she is stronger than him, she is a better person. All that. So questioning moral? don't think so.

Future will tell us everything, my lovely lady. As of today, she didn't tell him something he ought to know. She is morally wrong. It is a moral crime.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: noor.21


Don't we all blame him for that? That he upholds his family over Sonakshi.

Also Dev is a grey character, not black. He wouldn't take the child away. That track may come in the future.

While Sona is a good mother, for her to be excellentshe should have told Dev. I know the story doesn't allow that easily. But then again, this should be considered.

There is nothing that proves that Dev would have been a bad father. He is infacta father figure to a child who has full functioning normal parents. Only a bad father should be denied access to his child.

Hate dev as much as you want, but don't be blind to Sona's shortcomings.



Funny because Dev supports his family's wrong doings and disowns Sonakshi's good/right things. Difference between Dev and Sona's family is difference between good and evil 😆 . We blame Dev for choosing the evil despite knowing the evil. More than supporting the family point, the point should be supporting the right thing.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Whatever happened was between husband and wife .When you become a parent you need to keep aside your differences for the child's well being .By not revealing she wronged both her ex husband and her daughter.I don't see anything other than Ego here

No reason will justify Sonakshi's decision of keeping the child away from Dev but again she is Sonakshi Bose who can never be wrong .Her every action will be justified .

Let's see if the makers have the guts to show Miss Sonakshi Bose was wrong .



husband and wife and toxic Dixit clan led by Ishwari who interfered even in Devakshi bedroom! u seem to have conveniently forgotten the prenup Dev signed directed by matajee that said any child will have nothing to do with Dev. so.. where did ego come from?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually no. We don't blame Dev for choosing his Sonakshi over his family when his family needs him. We blame him for NEVER choosing Sonakshi, no matter who needs him.

Let me explain the rule of priority.

Say you have two pets, each in it's own cage. One pet is hungry and the other pet wants to play. Who will you tend first? A rational person will tend the hungry pet first because hunger is a bigger priority than play time.

Now say one pet is hungry and the other cage got fire. Which one would you tend first? A rational person will save the pet on fire before they feed the other because here saving lives becomes a priority over hunger.

That is how people prioritize.

Now when his mother was sick, should Dev go to romance Sonakshi? No.

But when Sonakshi is sick, should he go to address his mother's tantrums? Also no.

He was not just a son, he was a husband too. But he put his role as a husband in the back burner every single time.

When Sonakshi found out about her infertility, she needed him the most. Instead he went to tend to his mother's whim and pressurize Sonakshi into agreeing to his mother's condition instead of telling his mother that at that time his wife needed him more.

I am not saying Dev is a black character. But at that point of time when Sonakshi had no money and her husband threw her out of the house after calling her disgusting names, who in their right mind put trust on the same guy with their child and family whose history is to attack his enemy's livelihood?

By telling Dev about the child, she might be an exceptional wife, but would she be a good daughter for not prioritizing her parents? Again, who needed her more at that time? Her parents, not Dev.

The proof you gave that Dev would have been a good father, first of all, Sonakshi doesn't know. However, if she truly thought that Dev would make a bad father, she'd have never let her daughter find out about him. Because for a mother, her child's well being comes first.

However, Sonakshi didn't deny access to Dev. She was in public eye all this time winning awards. It would have been very easy for Dev to find her if he wanted to which of course he doesn't. Also, had she wanted to deny access, she'd have never told her six years old daughter about her father and let her decide for herself. It was a risk she took because she wanted her daughter to have the opportunity to know her father and make memories while she is still young.

Also, now she is strong enough to protect both her family and daughter from Dev should it come to that. Dev can no longer threaten a middle class family using his money. Now he will be against a rich woman with enough money and connection of her own. That's her security.

When people go to places where other people are carrying guns, they don't bring a butter knife for protection. They bring guns of equal or larger caliber to protect themselves if needed for self defence.

I am not blind to Sona's shortcomings. I have wrote numerous posts to that effect. But I expect her to be human. And she took the decisions which many woman in similar circumstances would have taken.

As I said before, to have someone put their trust on you, you have to prove yourself to be trustworthy. Dev Dixit never proved to be trustworthy on whom an ordinary middle class woman can place bet with her family and child.

Originally posted by: noor.21


Don't we all blame him for that? That he upholds his family over Sonakshi.

Also Dev is a grey character, not black. He wouldn't take the child away. That track may come in the future.

While Sona is a good mother, for her to be excellent she should have told Dev. I know the story doesn't allow that easily. But then again, this should be considered.

There is nothing that proves that Dev would have been a bad father. He is infact a father figure to a child who has full functioning normal parents. Only a bad father should be denied access to his child.

Hate dev as much as you want, but don't be blind to Sona's shortcomings.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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husband and wife and toxic Dixit clan led by Ishwari who interfered even in Devakshi bedroom! u seem to have conveniently forgotten the prenup Dev signed directed by matajee that said any child will have nothing to do with Dev. so.. where did ego come from?



Let's not change the facts just because we dislike some character so much ...are we watching the same serial ? Did Dev sign the prenup knowingly ?you seems to have conveniently forgotten what Dev said when he came to know about the prenup in front of his mother and Bijoy ...never mind ...he will always be wrong for people who wants to find faults in him ..,

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