Worthy!!! EDITED! - Page 6

Originally posted by: Tinkerfairy

forgot to reply this one.Tv shows always show abuse in the name of understanding. Suppose if male lead ne murder kar Diya apni lover le liye that means usne Jo Kiya sahi Kiya because INTENTION sahi tha😆 My main problem is how they are glorifying dev and his wrong doing by making him "MAHAaN" showing female lead "defective" that is the tone they are applying it's like now stop criticizing male lead ,he has accepted female lead with her imperfections .so whatever he did is justified. Only in indian television we will get to see this😆

Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

Infertility is not imperfection.But TV world it is.Such a regressive thinking.Because ML married a infertile FL.He is so mahaan,his love is selfless N Unconditional.So whatever he did will be justified.

Originally posted by: rose4ever

Hey Tia🤗firstly.

Commenting after many days though I was reading all your posts.Just wasn't motivated enough to write about this show anymore because of the way it has been going.At this point,I really can't say whether this show is better than the other dramatic shows considering it's initial episodes and absence of certain cliched portrayals or way worse because it is giving all the wrong messages even if it is not intended on part of the writers.This kind of mindset may exist in reality ,be ingrained and accepted even today in many families but should in no way be glorified in the name of great love or selflessness or goodness of heart.Just how is this show any better when it all comes down to the" All forgiving,understanding and most loving DIL and wife to ever exist "is beyond me truly.

The first woman who is heartbroken about her inability to bear a child because she wanted to pop out a team for her mil?Twisted much?

And the standard set for good life partners is so low apparently,that if a guy rolling in money is willing to financially help his wife and her brother in business & marries her after knowing about her inability to conceive(treatments,options,adoption-what's that?🤔)it automatically makes him a great choice.

The mother son obsessions with each other,lying,deceiving etc etc are minor inconveniences which the girl must overlook after all she is getting a great oh so loving husband.

I Had only been following written updates for quite some time and now I am not inclined to do even that on a regular basis.I guess this show wasn't meant to cater audience like us. Truly disappointed with the show,only glad to have interacted with some amazing people on this forum.Will miss your daily posts Tia.

Originally posted by: Danseuse

Dev lied, which should have been avoided. Marriage is based on trust and 'the worst thing about being lied to, is to know that you weren't worthy of the truth'. Sonakshi felt cheated and rightly so. So is the next step to walk out and divorce Dev? Obviously not. A marriage has several ups and downs and to sail thru these is the ultimate triumph of love. 👏 No one is perfect. To love a person with all his imperfections is true love. Dev loved Sonakshi despite the fact that he was aware that they could remain childless all their lives. Sonakshi chose to forgive Dev, after Asha explained to her why it's important to look at a scenario from Dev's perspective. Both have proved that they indeed love each other and are willing to admit mistakes to become better life partners. 😃

A lie of this magnitude in real life is very hard to overcome. Here Dev lied about a medical condition which has long term repercussions. Even if we argue that he was afraid that Sona would not marry him or Easwari would not let him marry her when the truth comes out still the premise is weak because one, it shows he did not have faith in Sona's love for him, Two he did not have the strength in him to fight for Sona if Easwari refuses. How does this make him strong in Love?. Divorce is certainly not an option for every disagreement but when the core is shaken it is time to reevaluate your marriage. Here he even wanted to get treatment done without her consent which to me is a violation of a woman's right to choose even if we argue he did not go thru with it just the thought is scary because what if the next time, or the next time he does.how will Sona feel in all this wouldn't she feel bad that she would never have a child with the man she loves and she did not even know that before she made the decision to marry isn't her right to make a decision taken away?

The script is not glorifying a man who conveniently lied and thought he would get away with it. The makers showed that a lie, no matter how it is used, would always get caught. Relationships are far more precious to be woven with a lie. Dev understood his folly, when Sonakshi put her views forward. He felt guilty. But his actions were only because he loved Sonakshi and was scared to lose her. Which man in today's world would accept a woman so willingly and respect her, if he knows she can't conceive? It happens only in movies. This is a very beautiful concept of woman empowerment being shown on TV. It would help change mindsets. 👏

Where is this woman's empowerment? Did Sona have a choice here to know about her condition and still agree to or not agree to marry him? Regarding Bold though as you say it may not happen in real life often as you want it to happen and that is the social responsibility this medium has to portray . I personally have come across 2 marriages which happened in spite of the people concerned having life threatening or debilitating illness one in my own family and that too a youngster who is just couple of years older than my son. So in real life it happens and this show is not doing any favors in glorifying this act of Dev

Lastly, Ishwari has been lied to and would be adamant and furious. Her reaction is stemming from the fact that Sonakshi lied to her. Whether she would know the whole truth remains to be seen. Would you choose Elena over Sonakshi? She is very wayward, immature and appears to be only bothered about her life. Period. Anyone coming in her way or criticising her is shown the door, albeit very shrewdly. It's unlikely that any family would encourage their daughters or in-laws partying away till midnight every other day. No responsibilities, just party away. She doesn't cook, behaves like she is a queen unlike Sonakshi who is the rightful owner. If Vicky is thrown out of this house, would Elena also divorce Vicky? It's also time to reflect on Neha and why she is not to blame for what happened? She chose Ranveer and ran away when he couldn't provide any comforts that her brother had. Good reason for divorce? Then why marry? Marriage is a partnership for life that needs to be oiled and serviced every now and then so that it looks brand new!

This I agree on and I am sure nobody is Team Elena. But we are not Team Sona too either because in order to please someone you cannot give up your core self respect if you do you are left with absolutely nothing and that is what Sona is trying to do somehow please Easwari so she can stay in the marriage because she loves Dev and is afraid that history can repeat again and isnt that a shaky foundation for a marriage when you need external validation when it is NOT even your spouse?

This soap has been different right from the 1st episode because it chose to focus on relationships. The characters are very true to life as such people do exist in reality. 😲 😲

People like this may exist in real life but as I see it what relationships is this show focusing on a Mother/ Son one which is driven more from fear or obligation or a Mother/Child one filled with Love and forgiveness?. A husband/wife one filled with truth and respect or one filled with lies and doubt? What reality is this portraying?

I hope if and when Tia gets back to her daily writing for this soap, she uses better analogies and tries to bring out positivity.

I disagree on this positivity and negativity comment why is it that if some of us if have differing views and voice it that is negative? Arent we free to voice differing opinions?

This was just my opinion no offense intended . Have a very Happy New Year
-Rekha

Originally posted by: tia.o

I think Rekha, you were not watching the same show I was. Firstly, Dev didn't love Sona despite him being aware of her infertility. He loved Sona first and then came to know about her infertility. There is a difference.

It's like someone falling in love with a HIV patient and someone falling in love with someone and then finding out that they have got HIV.

I don't know what you know about love. But true love doesn't come and go based on circumstances which was no one's fault and just situation of life.

The fact that Dev married Sona knowing the truth is normal. Because of the simple reason that he loved her. Not her ability to have children. If the situation was reversed, Sonakshi would have done the same.

But lying and deceiving are not situation. What Dev said to Sonakshi yesterday, had he said the day he found out the truth, well he'd be an excellent human being and ideal husband. But what he said yesterday sounded insincere by his actions.

If Sonakshi is enough for him, then why did he go behind her back trying to get her pregnant without informing her?

It's like saying someone tells a woman that he loves her with all her imperfections and then schedules plastic surgery behind her back. That is exactly where insincerity comes in. By the way, Dev didn't reveal what he tried to do but failed to do because the doctor did not cooperate.

All Dev's dialogues of support were not there when he was letting Sonakshi keep on getting insulted without saying a word. It was not there when he could have spoken the truth and stood by her regardless whether his mother "allows" them to get married or not. His choice was to hide the truth and continue deception.

He couldn't even tell the truth about his misdeeds to his mother in private. He wanted Sonakshi to say it. Why? So that he can share the blame with her rather than be the sole target?

And what mistake did Sonakshi committed that she had to say sorry? Her condition is beyond her control and since Dev hid the truth, her choices were also taken away from her. Then sorry for what?

You asked which man will accept a woman who can't conceive? The answer is that the man who is in love with the woman. Because when someone truly in love, NOTHING matters than being with the person you love. They would never be happy with anyone else regardless of their ability to procreate. If a man only marries a woman for how much her womb can function, he is not in love. Period.

I have seen couple like that. Not one, but three of them where they can't get pregnant. But they are happy together. One couple adopted, the other got pregnant by fertility treatment and the third remained childless. These are real men and real women who are truly in love. The people who run away hearing about infertility thinking to find another functioning womb, were never in love.

However, in what way a man marrying the woman after finding out her infertility while hiding the truth of her health condition is women empowerment? Being lied to is women empowerment? Or the fact a man married you knowing about your infertility is women empowerment? I don't think you know the definition of women empowerment. Because being lied to is actually taking away your power to make your own decisions and that is the exact opposite of women empowerment.

The script basically showed that no matter how big a man's lies are and how often he lies, if he says he did it for someone else's good and have good intention, then regardless what his actions were, he will not only be forgiven, but his wife will say sorry for situation not in her control. That's definitely not women empowerment.

I have nothing to say about Ishwari. She has always been a selfish woman. And why would I choose Elena? If I have to choose as an example, I will choose Bijoy. He is cranky, eccentric, abrupt and rude. But he is wise, speaks the truth, always does justice to every single one of his relationships. And most of all, can't even imagine hurting his own family members by deceiving them.

Let's not forget, Neha's divorce was also Dev Dixit and Ishwari's doing. They never gave her good advice. They are the ones who handed over divorce like people pay for candy for being a good girl.

I can't write positive posts on regressive mentality shown on screen. I can't focus on romantic scenes on the bedroom and public humiliation and flogging of female lead's self-respect in living room on a daily basis. I can't wax poetic on the male lead's smouldering glances and lofty dialogues which is negated by his actions. If you want "positive posts" like that, there are plenty of them in the forum for you to enjoy. I will write what I see and feel.

However, may be next time if I ever write any post, you will come back with stronger arguments to prove your point.

👏👏 tia please don't stop posting daily post .we need your awesome views , otherwise writers will feed whatever regressive mentality to viewer.😕

Originally posted by: Tinkerfairy

👏👏 tia please don't stop posting daily post .we need your awesome views , otherwise writers will feed whatever regressive mentality to viewer.😕

Originally posted by: Danseuse

Dev lied, which should have been avoided. Marriage is based on trust and 'the worst thing about being lied to, is to know that you weren't worthy of the truth'. Sonakshi felt cheated and rightly so. So is the next step to walk out and divorce Dev? Obviously not. A marriage has several ups and downs and to sail thru these is the ultimate triumph of love. 👏 No one is perfect. To love a person with all his imperfections is true love. Dev loved Sonakshi despite the fact that he was aware that they could remain childless all their lives. Sonakshi chose to forgive Dev, after Asha explained to her why it's important to look at a scenario from Dev's perspective. Both have proved that they indeed love each other and are willing to admit mistakes to become better life partners. 😃

The script is not glorifying a man who conveniently lied and thought he would get away with it. The makers showed that a lie, no matter how it is used, would always get caught. Relationships are far more precious to be woven with a lie. Dev understood his folly, when Sonakshi put her views forward. He felt guilty. But his actions were only because he loved Sonakshi and was scared to lose her. Which man in today's world would accept a woman so willingly and respect her, if he knows she can't conceive? It happens only in movies. This is a very beautiful concept of woman empowerment being shown on TV. It would help change mindsets. 👏

Lastly, Ishwari has been lied to and would be adamant and furious. Her reaction is stemming from the fact that Sonakshi lied to her. Whether she would know the whole truth remains to be seen. Would you choose Elena over Sonakshi? She is very wayward, immature and appears to be only bothered about her life. Period. Anyone coming in her way or criticising her is shown the door, albeit very shrewdly. It's unlikely that any family would encourage their daughters or in-laws partying away till midnight every other day. No responsibilities, just party away. She doesn't cook, behaves like she is a queen unlike Sonakshi who is the rightful owner. If Vicky is thrown out of this house, would Elena also divorce Vicky? It's also time to reflect on Neha and why she is not to blame for what happened? She chose Ranveer and ran away when he couldn't provide any comforts that her brother had. Good reason for divorce? Then why marry? Marriage is a partnership for life that needs to be oiled and serviced every now and then so that it looks brand new!

This soap has been different right from the 1st episode because it chose to focus on relationships. The characters are very true to life as such people do exist in reality. 😲 😲

I hope if and when Tia gets back to her daily writing for this soap, she uses better analogies and tries to bring out positivity.


-Rekha