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Posted: 8 years ago
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I made a post today after the episode. But I have been told that I didn't talk about C as in Ishwari.

Link to my earlier post: http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4727956

We all know that Ishwari, regardless of how melt in your mouth candy sweet she was, only accepted Sona for Dev's sake or to maintain her Goddess status in his eyes, take your pick.

But the thing about Ishwari that bothers me the most that for every solution to every problem, her first instinct is to lie and deceive.

She claims that she loves Dev, but she takes his signature fraudulently.

She claims she loves her brother, but when her brother asked why was she looking like a thief, she lies to him.

She claims that Buaji has taught her everything more than her mother, but her first instinct is to deceive her when she knows very well and so does Buaji that Sona can't cook. Radha told Buaji the first day she arrived.

So Buaji sets a test for Sona that will trip even a woman who can cook and knowing full well that Sona can't cook.

Ishwari knows that Buaji knows that Sona can't cook. Yet she asks her to lie for Dev's "izzat" which apparently is now Sona has to bear along with Dixit family's izzat. No wonder there's no room for her own izzat anymore.

Now the thing about lie (which Sona is really bad at) is that if you get caught (which she definitely will) you get a tag of lier and a deceiver which speaks louder about your character than just saying you can't cook.

The later is something you can learn but the former you can't unlearn no matter how much you try.

Even if Ishwari's intention was to please Buaji on Sona's behalf, she could have helped Sona make a sweet dish and ask her to tell Buaji that she can't cook. But today she learned to make a sweet dish from her mother-in-law for her. I don't know anyone in the world who would have taken an offense after that.

But instead Ishwari asked Sona to tell a lie that she will get caught for sure. Because if Sona couldn't cook two days before the wedding as per Radha then in two days there's no way she can become a gourmet cook.

So no, Ishwari's motive was not Dev's izzat as much as to prove herself the best in her in-laws eyes while making her daughter-in-law appear as a lier and a cheat whom she is tolerating for her Dev.

They will feel sympathy for her, just like Dev and will never forget Sona's deception.

If Sona is smart, she will confess the truth before she gets caught.

The other thing is the shagun. Ishwari said a lot of lecture about how shagun should not be returned and what not. Yet they sent each and every thing back to Bose family. They could have sent what was given to them. But they had no right to send back the gifts Bose family gave to Dev or Sona because that was not their to return.

But not once she asked Dev or tell him their intention to send back the gift.

The fish was wrapped in cellophane paper and was on a tray. It never touched any other tray. The fish tray touched their dining table though. I didn't see her getting rid of the dining table.

In fact Buaji even sat on that dining table and ate food.

But just the gifts from Bose family is not pure which never touched even the tray the fish was on. Handy use of culture for insulting another, isn't it?

When I was reading about complaints on how the Bose pushed on their culture and how Ishwari agreed to every thing, please note her revenge is way more subtle and deadly because she attacks from behind with an innocent face and sweet smile.

Boses are more open in their dealing with people. What to do? Deception doesn't match with their name.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes! How did Sona agree to lie in the first place? I hope this girl comes clean before anybody calls her a liar. Didn't Bijoy tell Sona that she shouldn't feel bad about not being able to cook?! Instead she should feel proud about all the things she can do! I thought Sona saw through Eeshwari's fainting drama on their first night. I thought she would be alert. I can't watch her being insulted by these ladies and I can't watch her cry about that!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazing and brilliant analysis 👍🏼
Sday I was confused about ishwari now after reading your post I understand about ishwari... She doing all this only for her son..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sona is not alert around Ishwari because she is seeing what everyone else is seeing. Right before asking her to tell the first lie, she smiles at her sweetly, asked about her comfort and Sona melts into a puddle.

You see, if someone attacks you in your face like Ishwari did when Sona came to pick up her jewellery during break up, you can answer back like Sona put both Ishwari and Radha in place.

Last time by behaving rudely with Sona, Ishwari exposed her not-so-Godlike persona in front of her.

But when someone is nice to you and by all appearance seems to be trying to help you, you doubt if they are just misguided and you have bad luck to keep getting in trouble or they are truly trying to make you look bad.

Sona is a straight forward woman. She doesn't understand tricks as well. But she is also a smart woman so it won't take long to figure things out when Dadi Bua leaves because then Ishwari will have no one to hide behind.

Originally posted by: dsr11

Yes! How did Sona agree to lie in the first place? I hope this girl comes clean before anybody calls her a liar. Didn't Bijoy tell Sona that she shouldn't feel bad about not being able to cook?! Instead she should feel proud about all the things she can do! I thought Sona saw through Eeshwari's fainting drama on their first night. I thought she would be alert. I can't watch her being insulted by these ladies and I can't watch her cry about that!

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Good One!

the D technique is simply having Sona bamboozled! Poor thing is not knowing what hit her! We truly have Ishwari, who has mastered the art of being diabetic sweet on the outside but inside deceptively deadly. ( I pity girls who have a MIL like this!).

Just few days into her marriage, forget getting a welcoming word, all she gets is insult after insult. Even her lover of yesterday has suddenly turned into an unconcerned husband!! Each of the main character seems to have got a persona upgrade.

Ishwari 1.0 to Ishwari 2.0
Dev 1.0 to Dev 2.0 to Dev 3.0 ( wonder how many more upgrades he is going to get)
Sona 1.0 to Sona 2.0

and with these upgrades, which like typical software upgrades, are not working well, so we can expect character patches being provided to fix upgrade problems


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually I was confused as well. Ishwari was changing her attitude in every episode which seemed inconsistent to me at first. But when Ishwari asked Sona to lie about her being tired because Dadi Bua is picky about rituals, that's when the alarm bell started to ring in my head. If a woman is that picky about rituals and traditions, how much she will insult Sona if she doesn't show up for them at all in spite of Dadi Bua calling her? Specially since Sona is such a crappy lier that she will definitely get caught.

That excuse sounded super flimsy to me. And as the episode went on, I started to form a complete picture and it wasn't pretty.

Originally posted by: independent

Amazing and brilliant analysis 👍🏼

Sday I was confused about ishwari now after reading your post I understand about ishwari... She doing all this only for her son..

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Lol... Upgraded characters indeed. The only person who got downgraded here seems to be Sona. It seems that she was so excited to get married that she left her brain in Bose house.

Originally posted by: pkbdas61

Good One!

the D technique is simply having Sona bamboozled! Poor thing is not knowing what hit her! We truly have Ishwari, who has mastered the art of being diabetic sweet on the outside but inside deceptively deadly. ( I pity girls who have a MIL like this!).

Just few days into her marriage, forget getting a welcoming word, all she gets is insult after insult. Even her lover of yesterday has suddenly turned into an unconcerned husband!! Each of the main character seems to have got a persona upgrade.

Ishwari 1.0 to Ishwari 2.0
Dev 1.0 to Dev 2.0 to Dev 3.0 ( wonder how many more upgrades he is going to get)
Sona 1.0 to Sona 2.0

and with these upgrades, which like typical software upgrades, are not working well, so we can expect character patches being provided to fix upgrade problems


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Iswari playing mind games with Sona for simple reason she does not Sona at all
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I find it funny
If someone doesn't know to cook, how is it matter of izzat? Common sense is not so common. Learning cooking should be sona's personal choice. When her middle class parents never forced her to learn cooking, why would in-laws ask her to lie or learn cooking when her husband is million er and can afford any number of cooks.

This kitchen politics of ishwari is quite dangerous. Hope sona doesn't get badly trapped in it. And this dadi bua was born out of no where. Where was she in their struggling days? And she appeared out of blue with her nonsense morals and ethics to torture the newly wed bride.

I must say Dev is spineless. He can finish this kitchen politics withing few minutes. Just need to open his mouth and ask all kitchen leaders to live and let live. Whether her wife knows cooking, stiching etc shouldnt be their matter of concern. I can understand their kich kich attitude if they were living in a chawl, but aren't they high class society people? Afford 10 cooks, so why are they not letting new couple to enjoy their new life and appoint few cooks?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i absolutely have no trust on ishwari even if her gesture looks selfless or for dev yet i cannot help getting that dreaded feeling that what is she planning to do now..and especially after the pre nup deception

she is swinging between extremes...her obsession for dev and her God like image before all not just dev...right now she iis the ultimate sacrificing mother who has done everything to ensure her son's happiness...she keeps silent and endures everything bua does so that her image of the perfect DIL remains in her eyes...it matters a lot to her what people think of her and her son...

and true what you have written...sona cannot lie and she very well knows that everyone in this house knows she cannot cook...this is just a trap laid for her so that they can insult her some more...and even she knew how to cook for God's sake how on earth can the girl make north Indian dishes in such short notice..can ishwari make any of the bengali delicacies inspite of being such a good cook??can dadi bua make???but then she is too busy demeaning sona to be reasonable...i feel like just dragging that woman all the way to station and putting her on train with one way ticket...

sona should have humbly apologized that she cannot make them as she cannot cook but instead as said make a sweet dish and serve as it is her pehli rasoi...and ishwari should have the decency to tell the truth that she is new to all this ..but a hard working girl who would as time passes learn it all just like she learnt it from her dadi bua...

this lie will indeed put her in deeper mess and label her as cheater,liar and what not

and yup in all this as usual ishwari comes out shining even more brighter...wonder if dev can make any of this to save his mother's izzat as the izzat in dixit household seem to be depended on the qualities of others

and as i said in another thread the way dadi bua taunts her after exposing her lie it seems the entire dixit household have just come first in Masterchef...

the question directed at sona in the precap itself shows this was a trap laid down for sona and she fell in it head to toe...even if she answers correctly ,does she get any brownie points??naa...and iswari cannot be this naive not to realize that the people in her house cannot recognize her cooking??

we know she does not care for sona...but if she really cared for dev's izzat and pasand as well she she would have found another solution to this cooking drama...and let us be clear that the woman can be sweetly deceptive that she would win the game and yet gain all the sympathy as well..e.g. the alliance she send for sona,the begging on behalf of dev to sona and the whole non veg issue...

and even the shagun scenario she is going to come out smelling like a rose as the rest of the world indulges fighting in deep neck dirt

and such people are more dangerous than the likes of a GKB or even dadi bua..she does remind me a lot of ashar's mother in the show humsafar...

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