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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

There have been many post against Ishwari and while watching the episodes again a thought crossed my mind ..why do we expect a MIL to fall in love with her DIL just because her son loves her ..in real life do two families fall in love with each other for the sake of their children..they merely accept each other .It takes time for a strong bond to create/Why this unrealistic expectation that a MIL has to accept DIL as her daughter from day one and DIL has to be a daughter to their in laws .


Ishwari has done the same , she saw how her son was broken when he almost lost Sonakshi and how much the girl meant to him .Any mother would not like to lose her son hence she went ahead and begged Bose family to accept the proposal just for her son's sake .Her intentions was very clear from the beginning and she never misled Bose family .All the while she said how much Sona and Dev loved each other and wanted them to marry .Forcing Ishwari to accept Sonakshi would lead to more problems .

Post engagement fiasco i dont think Ishwari has mistreated Sonakshi or her family .She did compromise on lot of things for her son.Even in the wedding she did not give a chance to complain .Can we blame Dixit alone for the misunderstanding at the wedding ?Was Bose family fair when they wanted the wedding their way and were not ready to compromise .If both families had talked about rituals, food the wedding would have been a smooth one .The ego that our culture is superior is the root cause of all the issue .

Coming to Sonakshi the girl needs to have some patience and yelling at your husband will only push him away from you .There will be people like RR and Bua in every family and they are temporary . You need to smartly tackle them .Seeing the recent promo i only want to say Dear why do you want to be his mom first be his wife .The juice/tea fiasco made her look like a typical insecure Bahu not today's career oriented girl .Both Ishwari and Sona should stop competing against each other .On your wedding night you have your husband next to you who did things to please you and your family .Instead of appreciating and basking in his love you are more worried about your MIL .



No one expects the MIL to fall in love with her DIL. No one is even asking her to accept the DIL. But one has to draw the line at outright taunts and insults.

I have strong feelings on this word 'accept'. I am in a minority that believes a marriage is between a husband and wife. Period. The sooner DILs stop craving acceptance from their MILs/in laws, the less this lack of 'acceptance' can be used as a weapon by the MIL/in laws to make the DIL feel bad. We as women should stop craving acceptance. It is highly overrated. There is a way to be civil to each other and respectful of each other's space, even in a joint family. Whether this can ever realistically happen is highly doubtful, though. The culture of keeping the DIL 'in her place' and ensuring that she is reminded in many ways, that she should consider herself lucky to be in that family, is too deeply ingrained and is being perpetuated, through the years, by women themselves.

"Post engagement fiasco i dont think Ishwari has mistreated Sonakshi or her family" - Expecting Sonakshi to sign a pre nup document that states that if there is ever a divorce, she will have no claim on any of Dev's property and will have to to bring up her kids (Ishwari's grandkids that she's dying for) on her own with no support from Dev. This is not bad treatment?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very well written 👏 👏. It's not some rajashri production movie that where both families are so understanding each other 😆 Devakshi marriage is love marriage where both families come from different cultures. They didn't accepted each other. I think they tolerated each other because of their children happiness. I think ishwari accepted sona as her son's wife not her bahu. And the non veg fiasco I don't think if dev didn't agreed for non veg bijoy will let it go. He is ready to fight for that when Asha said that dev included non veg then he was happy Maybe if sona know that ishwari didn't agreed she would have talk to her father. But as ishwari said either family would have compromised. So she compromised for her son happiness because her son happiness lies on sona. I think if dadi bua was not there ishwari would have eated. And I think it's only ishwari and bua who didn't eated the other Dixit family members eated. I think maybe it doesn't matter for bose family because only ishwari eating or not eating is matter. But still I don't think bose family should feel insulted it happens in every marriage. And in this marriage it's Dixit family who compromised. I really felt bad for dev sisters. Dev Is only brother for them. There is some rituals in marriage which only groom sisters can do. But they let it go because of dev happiness. And the fish fiasco I know bose family have no fault but it's their responsibility to check what things going to their daughter sasural. They can't leave everything to organizers they should have checked that all things are going or not. The fish drama caused because of their care less Ness. And Lack of communication between both families did blunders in marriage. I think there is no time to discuss . One week for marriage is less time
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree to what u've written in so many aspects. Expecting Ishwari to like Sona overnight is really expecting too much from her. She let everything go on smoothly, even though Bejoy was being difficult. Even in y'day's episode, Bejoy was annoyed that they threw the fish out - that I felt was really unreasonable on his part...he knows they're vegetarians, so how could he expect them to keep the fish in their house.
Sona needs to calm down and realize that everything was in fact done for Dev's happiness, and take it from there, rather than expecting miracles from his family.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: kar08


No one expects the MIL to fall in love with her DIL. No one is even asking her to accept the DIL. But one has to draw the line at outright taunts and insults.

I have strong feelings on this word 'accept'. I am in a minority that believes a marriage is between a husband and wife. Period. The sooner DILs stop craving acceptance from their MILs/in laws, the less this lack of 'acceptance' can be used as a weapon by the MIL/in laws to make the DIL feel bad. We as women should stop craving acceptance. It is highly overrated. There is a way to be civil to each other and respectful of each other's space, even in a joint family. Whether this can ever realistically happen is highly doubtful, though. The culture of keeping the DIL 'in her place' and ensuring that she is reminded in many ways, that she should consider herself lucky to be in that family, is too deeply ingrained and is being perpetuated, through the years, by women themselves.

"Post engagement fiasco i dont think Ishwari has mistreated Sonakshi or her family" - Expecting Sonakshi to sign a pre nup document that states that if there is ever a divorce, she will have no claim on any of Dev's property and will have to to bring up her kids (Ishwari's grandkids that she's dying for) on her own with no support from Dev. This is not bad treatment?


Prenuptial s beyond my level if understanding. Ishwary s not mahaan ..she s clear dat Sona s dev s zid just to keep her son sane make him ATM machine again she accepted sona..and Everytime she convinced sona she just used dev s happiness is u tag...sona forgave very soon and marriage s rushed..it's over now all damage done already ..now it's time for amendments..how? Definitely not by shouting on dev..nor by questioning him in front f his entire family...and this s d only let down..I would attribute sona s insecutity to separation from her loving family.but I'd she s gonna tread d road f becoming perfect bahu like Sandhya bhindini or ishita or akshara den I m sure it's a tough challenge.isgwsry aunty has learnt how to please her son ..Dev got what he wanted so he ll never feel his mom s bad..sona too must first settle her life with her husband and den she has d entire life to fight with mil..If she chooses fight mode, all she ll get s disappointment in abundance.

If dev gets to face a calm sona might b he ll understand and work towards a better solution..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is the sole post In the entire forum I have been looking forward to since yesterday.
Such negativity was basking around that I was time and again refraining myself from coming here and reading negative posts as much as I can.

Since I am unmarried, and I don't know the depths of the married life, what politics and what truth, I quietly considered myself a fickle minded person dwindling between my opinion and the opinion people in general were having here that all the fault of Ishwari and Dev.

Yesterday, a friend of mine asked me after the episode if I also feel Dev being a spineless guy even after marriage, and I truthfully told her that no, I really didn't find him spineless. He was quiet not because he couldn't save his wife from the ladies' wrath but more because he felt guilty seeing his mother sick when all he had tried was the best middle way.

Coming to Ishwari, Though I don't support this character anymore after the prenup Agreement fraudery, but I can have the sense of right and wrong. And she didn't do anything yesterday as such. She never asked anyone to call Dev and Sonakshi, it was maami who spoilt it. And seriously, I don't find anything wrong in her telling that she did get Devakshi marry for Dev's happiness. Don't parents do that? For their children's happiness? What is so wrong in that?
I think it is more about a perspective with which you see her words yesterday. If you see it in good light, you will find nothing wrong. And if you see Ishwari in the light of her past acts, you will feel it like taunting and all acting and show off, and we can't blame Sonakshi for this coz she has been the most aggrieved by the latter case.

Now coming to Sonakshi. Boss, I think the perspective for this is how each girl's mental setup is. If she is way too headstrong, they will react in the exact way Sona did coz she interpreted the situation that way, just like many of our forum members did.
But if we see it with a little softer mental setup, Sona let her first night get spoilt in the hands of GKB and Buaaji. If she considers a fact that she came to this house is because she became someone's wife, along with getting a surplus relationship of being someone's bahu, try becoming a better one that is easily achievable. I mean if it is easy to become a better wife to your husband than being a better bahu to the incorrigible house, go for the former case first na. Your husband is eagerly waiting for you, he ignored everything aside along with the idea of worrying for his mom to be with you. You also leave everything aside and be with him. It's not like he is gonna use you for a night and then leave you forever. 😆 You two are the cutest stupidest couple I have ever met... 😆

I think this is what I thought, and rahi baat GKB and Buaaji ki, toh Buaaji Kitne din rahengi yahan? She would eventually go. And coming to GKB, well Sonakshi, you know her good enough to tackle her. The first thing you need to do is royally ignore that good for nothing aunt in law of yours until you settle in this house. Make this house your home first, and then you know it nice and good to straighten this dog tail of a lady.
You don't need your husband's intervention also Sona. You go girl. And the best thing is motivate your husband towards getting Maamaji's house reconstructed. Though you will lose a gem of a father in law in Maamaji on a daily basis, but you will get rid of two demons in one stroke. 😆

PS: Haah! Done with my rant... I was feeling heavy. Now that's better... I have got a place to say what I wanted to... No matter if anyone agrees with me or not...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

There have been many post against Ishwari and while watching the episodes again a thought crossed my mind ..why do we expect a MIL to fall in love with her DIL just because her son loves her ..in real life do two families fall in love with each other for the sake of their children..they merely accept each other .It takes time for a strong bond to create/Why this unrealistic expectation that a MIL has to accept DIL as her daughter from day one and DIL has to be a daughter to their in laws .

Agree,It takes alot of time to create a bond between MIL/DIL and its a two way process,both have to make efforts to accept each other and let me tell you I have seen with my few friends, in spite of 6-7 years of marriage their relation with MIL's is not at all good.Food is one issue where mother's become so irritating,my son like this ,cook like this otherwise he will not like it and bla bla... same which is being shown in the new promo.I still remember one line said by my MIL" Blood relations mai sab rishte nibha lete hai but doosre ghar mai aaker sabko apnna,unhe tumhe apna banana,rishta nibhana bahut mushkil hota hai" .Its very difficult to adjust in another family when you have been born and brought up in a different way all together!! And here,we are talking about Ishwari who initially did not want her son to get married because of her insecurities but when he saw her son in such a miserable condition ,she agreed for his son's happiness.So,Its really unrealistic expectation from Ishwai that she will accept Sona from day one when she never liked her own daughters to come in between her and Dev.

Ishwari has done the same , she saw how her son was broken when he almost lost Sonakshi and how much the girl meant to him .Any mother would not like to lose her son hence she went ahead and begged Bose family to accept the proposal just for her son's sake .Her intentions was very clear from the beginning and she never misled Bose family .All the while she said how much Sona and Dev loved each other and wanted them to marry .Forcing Ishwari to accept Sonakshi would lead to more problems .

Post engagement fiasco i dont think Ishwari has mistreated Sonakshi or her family .She did compromise on lot of things for her son.Even in the wedding she did not give a chance to complain .Can we blame Dixit alone for the misunderstanding at the wedding ?Was Bose family fair when they wanted the wedding their way and were not ready to compromise .If both families had talked about rituals, food the wedding would have been a smooth one .The ego that our culture is superior is the root cause of all the issue .

The biggest problem,there was no communication between both the families like how rituals will happen,what to wear during rituals,food menu etc.Normally both the families sit together and discuss about all this but to show a drama it was not shown.If we talk about food,Dev said that Bose family can keep non veg and they agreed,they did not even discuss with Ishwari about same in spite of knowing Dixit's are Brahmins. During wedding,both sides were making fun of each other's traditions,this was really sad ,mine was same cast marriage so I do not have much idea that it really happens in the inter cast marriage or not.

Coming to Sonakshi the girl needs to have some patience and yelling at your husband will only push him away from you .There will be people like RR and Bua in every- family and they are temporary . You need to smartly tackle them .Seeing the recent promo i only want to say Dear why do you want to be his mom first be his wife .The juice/tea fiasco made her look like a typical insecure Bahu not today's career oriented girl .Both Ishwari and Sona should stop competing against each other .On your wedding night you have your husband next to you who did things to please you and your family .Instead of appreciating and basking in his love you are more worried about your MIL .

I was really surprised the way Sona shouted on Dev on their wedding night. Ok,she was hurt,humiliated by Dadi bua & GKB but does it mean you start yelling like this.It was such a special moment for both of them,in spite of making it memorable they fought, discussed about each other families insult. Sona knows about Dev's family very well and she was the one who used to advice Dev even he said that you are the solution of all my problems but where is that Sona? Poor Dev,he was trying to make every one happy but in the end what he got!Now they are married and problems will be there and every time they can not fight like this rather talk and try to understand each other's POV.If they keep on fighting like this God knows what will be their future!! 😕



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Running out of time as I jst came and need to reply to some pending posts..But had to comment with one thing..
I don't hate her..I never did (Except for forged signature part)
And this is much needed post.

I share the same kinda thoughts ..I dont support her act..No never. But at the same time I understand where they are coming from.

We always say dont judge people try to understand them And I wanna do that same with Ishu


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Excellent post.. i agree..
Ishwari has been very well mannered and is trying to pacify people - she kept saying bas bas abb ye sab batein mat karo etc... only one thing that probably riled her up a bit was when Sona started queststing why Dev said it is ok to have non veg in the menu... when his family has issues... Ishwari cant hear anything against her son... that we all know... Sona better know not to raise these conflicted topics/fights in front of Ishwari...


From promo, Sona is trying to be the ideal bahu... she doesnt have to be. Ishwari knows what sona can and can not do.. Honestly sona doesnt have any interest in cooking and Ishwari loves cooking for her family (blessing in disguise)... So they should just stick to their interest and not step on each others zones. Let ishwari rule the kitchen which makes her happy..


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Posted: 8 years ago
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very well said di..I completly agree With u..u exaxtly aid what i wanted To say
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sajini di, I will just say about the promo, to garner more eyeballs, they make the promos louder, when their actual picturization is a lot more subtle in the show. Be it the toy thing, or be it this first rasoi thing. See today's segments, Ishwari said she can do whatever she wants for Dev later on, today she should just be saving her grace in front of buaaji.
Even Supriya ji's IV said that Ishwari will never want her son's choice to be considered bad in front of anyone, and should be the least humiliated, and that is why she is saving Sona from any disgrace.
And I find it subtle enough than what they have shown in the promo.
Its just a pov di. No offense.😃

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