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Posted: 9 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: tia.o

You are right. Both are acting in haste. But my post was not to show Sona as right or wrong. My point is for those posts which said Sona never loved Dev because she is willing to move on. The point is that Dev made his choice when he dumped Sona. Now if Sona decides to marry someone else to please her family, then she has full right to take her decision. Whether the decision was right or wrong that's irrelevant now, only time would tell. What matters more is having the right to make a decision.

oh that i agree..she has total right to decide whatever she wants to do with her life and not really consider Dev while making the decision.

Like I said, Dev never gave her any right to decide whether she wants to break up. If he really respected her, he could have asked her for a solution regarding his mom. May be Sona would have suggested Psychiatrist or she would have suggested for them to be careful and help his mom get over her insanity, who knows? But she never got to decide. When there are two adult, rational people in a relationship, how can one person take decision on both of their behalf?

Now Sona has a choice. Whether she marries someone else to please her family or pine away her life, it's her choice. Provided she is truthful about her past to the prospective groom. And knowing the kind of woman she is, she will be honest with the groom. And again, the groom has a choice to marry Sona knowing she loves someone else or walk away or stay in her life as a friend.

Everyone is giving Sona a choice except Dev and his family.



Even if she goes back to Dev, will she ever have a choice or everything will run at his mom's whim? How would that feel to an independent woman like Sona to be treated like second class family member within her own husband's family where she was treated like equal in hers?

Why should always the woman understand a man's love for his family and the man only considers his family? Did Dev think that by dumping Sona he is also hurting her family who accepted him and came to his house to talk about marriage? No. His world revolves around his mother.

Unfortunately, as long as his mother is the central focus of his life, he can never have a happy relationship with anyone else.

thats the main crux..Dev needs to find a balance and realise that Ishwari's behaviour is not normal
She needs help, professional or otherwise

in the context you have mentioned, agree with everything you said





Quick question..you used to post in IPK and madhubala forum right?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I completely agree with you. I can understand in that situation when Dev's mother is in hospital he was panic n may be in that situation he took that decision. But after that he didn't realize even once that he hurt sona very badly. He would have go to her place at least to explain his situation n why he did this. About his mother we all know she is a psyco. Dev should have talk to her frankly why she took overdose of medicine. If she doesn't like sona why she lied him.. in this conversation may be he could have get any solution to their problem. I feel he broke down because of himself not for sona. He loves her so much that he cannot live without her.
I don't think sona is doing anything wrong. It may be two days or 1 year.. the way Dev broke her trust, crushed her heart why should she wait n for whom. Who doesn't have guts to stand for his love.

Dev has to realise his mistakes. Or else there is no point of reunion. Sona being a very strong lady , she will definitely fight for her self respect.. she was silent in front of GKB n Ishwari onluy because of Dev. Now when he is not their with him why should she wait...

Sonakshi is always right...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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YAAASSS. I can't believe people are even accusing Sona of wanting to be with Dev for money, really?! And that it's bad that she's moving on for her family, these double standards piss me off so much. Let her do what she wants in her life, who are you to judge?It's sad that people still say such misogynistic and stereotypical things in this day and age.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree 100%. I don't want sona to sit and cry for Dev . She deserves much better than what Dev is right now.. Breaking up may have been the only option but he could have discussed it with her and they could have taken a decision together. I want sona to move on and find some one deserving if Dev is just going to sit and cry instead of doing something about it... I will pity him only if he acts on things to show he cares about sona (interfering with her job or her marriage is not the way to do this). He should man up and come say sorry first and I don't want sona to forgive him easily. Dev did wrong for both sona and her family.

If he doesn't take any step I want sona to move on and find someone who can be with her understanding her past and be a partner In life. Love may come later but she should not sit and wait for Dev.

If she moves on I would not call her insensitive or question her love for Dev. We all know her love was true and let's not delude ourselves just beause we love devakshi.


Edited by dlavanya - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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What a fantastic post with true hard hitting words. 👏 Completely agree with you.
Well nowadays when our girls are brining Olympic medals for our country leaving behind boys and shining the face of India with glory, it's so very unfortunate that many still couldn't shake the thinking that a woman's life is dedicated to man's happiness , in case of gf her bf's n for a married woman , it's to be dedicated to her spouse n his family's happiness. Why can't we still think out of the stereotypical POV , where we have different sized yard sticks to measure a man n a woman's action.
Behold the male lead shading two precious drops of tears n suddenly all the unforgivable things he did are alright !!

I've been already been pretty vocal about the unfairness of viewing n judging man n woman through different lenses in several forum posts and especially in this post of mine, if it's possible to find time , do please have a look, here's the link- https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kuch-rang-pyar-ke-aise-bhi/4699478/before-they-patch-up


Especially this comment of mine is pretty relevant to ur post methinks, so copy pasting it from my post-
That too in a country that's still full of BS ideas n ideals about how a girl should behave. It's a woman who must change , it's she who must pine, it's she who must adapt after marriage , who must sacrifice her ambitions, dreams n small small wishes whole life so that family n marital life runs smooth , it's she who must wait, it's she who must have all the "faith", "loyalty" , " patience" .
It's a battle for the girl as soon as she's conceived in her mother's womb, battle to live a life as she wishes with head held high .
Once again, congratulations n thanks for your post, for it gives a much needed platform for many to raise their voice in concern . Inspired bit of writing. 👏

REally loved reading all the replies too. I must say I'm truly proud of being part of this forum where there are so amny sensible wise talented mature people around here. It's a boon.

Edited by AnnaPaquinFan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I will quote a real incident here - one of my colleagues in office was complaining about his wife and how she tells their problems to her mother. I just asked him do you tell your problems to your parents. He confidently said of course they are my family. Then I said are your wife's parents not her family. Instead came the answer once she is married to me, my family becomes her family and all her loyalty should be towards my family only. This was said by a highly educated professional. That's Indian mentality for you.
Sonakshi should care only about Devs family as she fell in love with him.


To hell with what her family goes through. If she shows some consideration towards her own family she becomes a heartless bitch who never loved the poor hero enough. Sona agreeing to move on for the sake of her family's happiness makes her selfish and grasping.

A guy thinking about his family is NORMAL.

a girl thinking about her family is BAD AND ASANSKARI.


Edited by _Payalj_ - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#17
TIA!!!
I missed you since the IPK-1 forum🤗 . So happy to see you on this one.

Lovely post that goes without saying. Typical story one tear from the male lead folks FEEL so much, but the same cannot be said for female lead why so is something I have never understood.

In the same thread which caught the forum your eyes has some really nice replies too, about 6-7 very good ones (page 8)

My opinion you have said it, I have nothing to add. (I stopped watching from the time Ishwari is behaving like Anjali 🤢) I hope to watch when Sonakshi is shown as a confident person giving back in the face and sustaining self confidence and self esteem.
Edited by OmNaMaSteOm - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with you completely.
Dev had taken a rash decision in the hospital by ending his relationship with Sona. It is understandable that he wasn't thinking straight at the time. There was this dialogue he said, "Right now I am only a son and nothing else" which is justified because his mother was in critical condition at the time.
But he had many instances later to ask Ishwari about her dislike towards Sona like when Ishwari was brought home from the hospital or when he was leaving for work the next day. In fact Ishwari had asked him point blank about his and Sona's break up and how he felt about it. Even then he chose to dismiss the topic saying he was fine and it was closed chapter. Doesn't that show that his commitment to his relationship with Sona has drastically changed or rather i must say is no more a commitment.
It also shows that he is never going to confront Ishwari. If any step has to be taken, it has to be from Ishwari herself which at the moment seems to be an impossible situation.
And coming to Sona, when she realizes how easily Dev dismissed her, why would she wait for him. And if they even got back, what guarantee did she have that he wouldn't do it again to her. So i wouldn't blame her if she wanted to move on in her life
Guys, it is just my thoughts so please do bear with me :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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In my POV, In this scenario First Dev should talk his heart out in front of his mom. Asked her some reasonable questions like why she took this drastic step. Now he is neither honest to his mom nor to sona. If he thought just by sacrifice his love he is a great son n solve the problem then he is wrong. If he himself is not happy how he makes his mom happy. Actually i feel normally in this society this hapens.. the main reason to all our problems is lack of communication n assumptions. We assume rather than we talk. Here also the problem is same. Dev assume s n confident that he knows his mom very well n same with Ishwari..
Sona is the only person who is very clear. She always spoke her heart out,whether its Dev or Ishwari.

Dev has to learn this ..in fact realise this.. then their relationship will be the best evwr.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#20
Such a beautiful post. I didn't know this forum is filled with kickass ladies👏👏

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