Premeer: Pyar Ki Daastan... - Page 2

Originally posted by: kesha2412

Hey Payal..
Compliments to you and your beautiful writing. I have to say ur analysis of Prem and Heer emotions, their relationship is superb.

I loved reading your post... you are a good writer.

Love Kesha

Originally posted by: thesaint148

My darling P,

This is what i had been waiting from you for sooo long. This is what u r soooooo good at and this is what makes an impact deep in our hearts .... I still remmeber those days when u used to write the kathas in kaajjal forum and i used to love evey line of them .... And as always u have maintain ur tradition of brilliance and excellence. You have rocked this one as well ....

Ok, so now coming to the post .... Why my P, just loved the way u have gotten into the soul of Prem and Heer as individuals and as two people in love.

You have mentioned all those beautiful scenes of PH which brought PH more and more closer to my heart ... all those moments when i felt a part of me belonging to PH and when i felt my heart soaring with love ....

Your description of Prem felt as if u were pouring my heart out in letters to create those magicals words which formed such powerful sentences .... And very rightly, we have always thought on same lines and liked similar things .... Seee i told U and N u guys are going to love Prem ... and there u go, rest is history 😉

Everything was briallint P ... simply brilliant ...

This tells me how Prem has touched ur heart and made his place deep within .... 😊

Loved reading it P .... write more often ... u know i always love ur posts .... 👏

Lots of Love, Kashish

Originally posted by: maya123

This is so beautifully written. 👏 👏 👏 .

Is it not amazing that Heer had blindly fell in love with someone that she had never met and he happened to be the one that gave up everything for her and that Prem had the image of someone that was made for him and that turned out to be Heer.

What is more amazing is that their rishta was fixed by the parents and their souls were connected before they were born.

Like Prem's mother said jo prem kahani adhuri reh jaati hai wo kudrat hi keher ban jaati hai

Hopefully Ekta will not be the one to have create their rishta with other people.

Originally posted by: IndianPari

I'll never forget the scene where he first tries to confess his love to her...the beautiful words that came straight from his heart..."akhir tum mujhe mil hi gaiy...kab se dhound raha houn main tumhe." After all, he'd been looking for her his whole life...she has always been his pyar, his wafa.

Originally posted by: IndianPari

The marriage was getting closer...soon, he would belong to someone else forever. But seeing Manmeet, he realized that if he left Heer's side now, he would never be able to forgive himself.

Originally posted by: IndianPari

How could he leave his father, who was no less than his God? But why didn't his father, his God, understand that he couldn't leave his love either?

Originally posted by: IndianPari

Harshad was brilliant in that scene...Prem was brilliant. The rest of the world disappeared then...for that moment, it was about him, and his father...God the look on his face was heartwrenching. His eyes said it all...silently he was asking his father to forgive him...to understand that he would never do anything to hurt him...to understand that his world was at his father's feet, so how could he ever do anything to cause him pain? How could his father accuse him of something so horrible. Beneath it all, he was appalled that his father didn't know him better than that...didn't understand him better than that. He couldn't believe his father thought he would throw away his relationship with his family for a girl, when just a few minutes before, he was ready to throw away his love for a girl, for his father's happiness. Not only did his father misunderstand him, but he also misjudged his father's faith in him.

Originally posted by: IndianPari

As he begged his father not to send him away; to understand that a devotee can never be apart from his God, and live happily, he also begged his destiny not to make him choose between the two most important things in his life.

Originally posted by: IndianPari

Love,
Prem Ki Deewani,
~Payal

Originally posted by: estee

y'know?

sometimes it amazes me that we all watch the same show, but we all don't always see the same things.

but it's even more amazing when sometimes we do see the same things. and then, i think i know that it's a fantastic show.

so the first thing that came to my mind after i read this, is that against the odds, balaji telefilms has made a fantastic show.

the second thing that came to my mind is how very brave you are to have written this, with such - honesty. me, i see the show, i see what you see, and i think i am a coward about what i write. i look at heer, and i look at prem and their story. and i tell myself that i have to laugh. because otherwise i will cry at the beauty of such an age-old story, an ancient story - that of love between two people, one that has existed forever - coming to life on a television set in front of my eyes. and real people don't cry. that only happens in staged shows and television serials under the influence. (of glycerine, of course.)

and lastly, the thought came - what an apt name you have chosen for yourself. pari stands for "fairy"? you have told us the story of prem-and-heer, all lit up in fairy lights, warm-hued and soft.

thank you so much for this.

i specially thank you for having shed your fairy lights on one piece of a prem-puzzle that had nagged me when i first saw it, and your write up reminded me again, just now.




i've only seen it on downloaded videos (terrible stuff) and i remembered being so very puzzled at that first line: kab se dhoond raha houn main tumhe. that had come across as a very strong line to me then. was he just talking about the time from when he'd come to knock on her outhouse door? wasn't there a better or a lighter way of saying the same thing?

i'd put it aside, thinking i was reading too much into it, blaming my hindi -- not very good at it.

but i love your stance on it: prem has been looking for heer all his life. and now, here she is! 😊

of course, being totally non-fairy - more like a goblin, actually 😃 - there are some things that i think i beg to differ from you. maybe it's just something that i don't understand -- my missing pieces of the prem-heer puzzle, of which i have a few. perhaps you will clear it up.

one is that i never quite understood why ashlesha's engagement to him didn't seem to stop him from going after heer. but the moment he heard that she was to engaged to muckmeet, he stopped cold. even then, his engagement to ashlesha was his father's dream. even then, his breaking off that engagement would mean going against the wishes of his god. yet, there he was, in front of her door, just after pushing heer's buttons and entering her house against her will, nervously wondering how to propose to her.

didn't understand that about prem.

the second thing that i think you cheated on (explicitly! 😃) is how his stance of "the son will win, but the premi will not lose either" wavered after the whole fiasco at the sangeet? mehendi? oh, one of those wretched ceremonies where his father's actions forced his confession of love. i adored the fact that he could be nothing other than truthful! but i did get confused in one of the following episodes where he remembers heer's violently telling him to leave her to love muckmeet - just before he broke his lute. there was the sense that if preet hadn't come to tell him that heer knew muckmeet was mad and was keeping quiet, he ... may have sat quietly through his wedding to ashlesha? even though, his heart could feel all the tears that heer was shedding thinking she had betrayed prem and was alone in her battle against marrying muckmeet?



so here, it wasn't just his having seen muckmeet/prashant. the stars, and preet-meher, helped? but i must say, it was terribly sweet when - in his tirade against dirtchachi - he kept saying that heer "was not alone". that he was with heer. because heer had been crying about "being alone" - no one else had ever used that line before. it was like they could, and always would be able to, hear each other - whether they were together or not.



here, too, i thought that prem was a bit obtuse: his father asked him about getting into a relationship of marriage. obviously that had to mean love - at least, that was what it looked was clear from his father's point of view.

what i kinda disagree with (but sympathise with) is prem's saying that he did everything that his father asked him to do. if prem keeps his marriage and "love" separate, then yes, prem has always done everything his father asked him to do. but if his father meant that in his marriage, there should be love for his partner, then prem has always lied to his father. from the time that he wanted to propose to heer, he's kept the truth from his father.



so i agree with you about this scene being the best of everything that has happened so far in hc's performance, and in spotlighting prem's character.

prem was asking forgiveness. but part of that forgivenss was for not having had the courage to talk to his father earlier. if part of his sorrow was that his father appeared to not understand him, then it was because he did have a role to play in confusing his father. by being someone who could keep his love and his marriage separate. when he knows very well that for his father, his god -- who talked to him about commitment and marriage but never used the word love -- all three words meant the same.

prem was trying to juggle too many obligations. and because i can't think of him as anything but a very intelligent person, i can't excuse him for knowing upfront that this was going to happen.

prem was asking forgiveness from his father, because he had seen a long time ago, that he was going to cause that hurt.

y'know, seeing the character develop and flower in front of my eyes, night after night, i've been facing the horrid possibility that this is a perfect character. but i should've remembered that perfect would only be possible for a god. and prem is mein-bhagwan-nehi-hoon-prem.

and i really loved - almost best 😆 - what you wrote:



because from the moment that he made that ridiculous vow on his mother's head, i knew this choice was to come.

the only thing i would've wished for prem would've been that it would not have happened in so public a setting. but now that i think about it - did the crowd really matter? in the end, there was indeed just prem - and his father. the rest was wallpaper on the screen.



ah, yet another pkd. you are some magical folk.

once again, thank you. for the beauty of your words. and for their honesty. this rocked.
😃

Payal.....You Absolutely Marvellous Marvellous Pari of mine...

Am I proud of you or what?? 🤗

It felt I was reading a beautiful fairy tale......like Estee said...

But a fairy tale narrated so wonderfully that I wished that someone somewhere is living those moments that have taken all our breaths away!!!!!

Like they say..............

Jindagi mei hai lamhe char......

Intezaar......Aitbaar......Ikraar aur Pyaar!!!!

We have seen all the shades in this love story....and I loved the way you narrated your readers with each lamhe of this absolutely soulful Love story!

I tell you always...don't know what tomorrow holds.....But this love story is here to stay....in our hearts...and this piece of your...

This soulful..from your heart piece.......is to be the bestest thing I have read so far......👍🏼

Love You My Jaan.........!

BRAVO........ Payal......BRAVO!!!!👏

Originally posted by: Nupur9

Payal.....You Absolutely Marvellous Marvellous Pari of mine...

Am I proud of you or what?? 🤗

It felt I was reading a beautiful fairy tale......like Estee said...

But a fairy tale narrated so wonderfully that I wished that someone somewhere is living those moments that have taken all our breaths away!!!!!

Like they say..............

Jindagi mei hai lamhe char......

Intezaar......Aitbaar......Ikraar aur Pyaar!!!!

We have seen all the shades in this love story....and I loved the way you narrated your readers with each lamhe of this absolutely soulful Love story!

I tell you always...don't know what tomorrow holds.....But this love story is here to stay....in our hearts...and this piece of your...

This soulful..from your heart piece.......is to be the bestest thing I have read so far......👍🏼

Love You My Jaan.........!

BRAVO........ Payal......BRAVO!!!!👏

Sorry My dear....took so long.....But your bea

Originally posted by: estee

y'know?

sometimes it amazes me that we all watch the same show, but we all don't always see the same things.

but it's even more amazing when sometimes we do see the same things. and then, i think i know that it's a fantastic show.

so the first thing that came to my mind after i read this, is that against the odds, balaji telefilms has made a fantastic show.

Indeed they did. I'm actually still surprised at myself for watching a Kekta show...and Loving it...

the second thing that came to my mind is how very brave you are to have written this, with such - honesty. me, i see the show, i see what you see, and i think i am a coward about what i write. i look at heer, and i look at prem and their story. and i tell myself that i have to laugh. because otherwise i will cry at the beauty of such an age-old story, an ancient story - that of love between two people, one that has existed forever - coming to life on a television set in front of my eyes. and real people don't cry. that only happens in staged shows and television serials under the influence. (of glycerine, of course.)

Thank you so very much. Its not that I'm brave or anything. I know that you see what I see...Everyone sees it...I just put what is obviously there in words, perhaps for us all. And as far as honesty is concerned, it's merely the truth and honesty in Prem and Heer's love that comes out. You're right, it IS an age-old story, one that we've heard countless times...but still, it manages to touch a place deep within my heart, each time.

and lastly, the thought came - what an apt name you have chosen for yourself. pari stands for "fairy"? you have told us the story of prem-and-heer, all lit up in fairy lights, warm-hued and soft.

Again, its only the beauty of Prem and Heer, the essence of Prem and Heer, and the purity of their love that is reflected in my words....

thank you so much for this.

Thank YOU, for THIS.

i specially thank you for having shed your fairy lights on one piece of a prem-puzzle that had nagged me when i first saw it, and your write up reminded me again, just now.




i've only seen it on downloaded videos (terrible stuff) and i remembered being so very puzzled at that first line: kab se dhoond raha houn main tumhe. that had come across as a very strong line to me then. was he just talking about the time from when he'd come to knock on her outhouse door? wasn't there a better or a lighter way of saying the same thing?

I saw that randomly on you-tube once...didn't actually see the episode as we don't have it here in our archives. At the time, I didn't even know that he had gone once before to confess his love to her - when he was practicing his "I Love You" speech....so for me, seeing this for the 1st time, his words then could only mean one thing. He was saying "you're the one I've searched for my whole life" ...as if he himself had just realized the fact.

i'd put it aside, thinking i was reading too much into it, blaming my hindi -- not very good at it.

but i love your stance on it: prem has been looking for heer all his life. and now, here she is! 😊

of course, being totally non-fairy - more like a goblin, actually 😃 - there are some things that i think i beg to differ from you. maybe it's just something that i don't understand -- my missing pieces of the prem-heer puzzle, of which i have a few. perhaps you will clear it up.

Its good to differ....difference makes the world go 'round.

one is that i never quite understood why ashlesha's engagement to him didn't seem to stop him from going after heer. but the moment he heard that she was to engaged to muckmeet, he stopped cold. even then, his engagement to ashlesha was his father's dream. even then, his breaking off that engagement would mean going against the wishes of his god. yet, there he was, in front of her door, just after pushing heer's buttons and entering her house against her will, nervously wondering how to propose to her.

For me, this was just another side of Prem's intensity. He agreed to marry Ash perhaps thinking that maybe, just maybe she really was the one he'd always dreamt of. Unfortunately for him, the night before the engagement, he ran into Heer, and realized how wrong he'd been. Prem has always been true to his heart. He's also always been the romantic, dreamer type. He's always had these over the top notions about love...his love. Because even before he'd met her, he loved her beyond compare. He could always feel her existence in his life...she was always a part of him...so what if she hadn't materialized then.

But even when he found her, he couldn't make her his because he would never crush his father's dreams and go live his own. This just wasn't him. He still decided to continue with his engagement to Ash...

Unfortunately for him, he just kept being drawn to Heer...he couldn't stop himself. It wasn't in his hands, and his love for her became deeper...stronger.

When Heer was engaged to Manmeet, he was ready to walk away, to let her marry this man, because he would never do anything to hurt her, make society question her. He knew that if he tried to make her his own, she would bare the accusations of society, and he couldn't/wouldn't do that to her.

It wasn't until he found out that there was something odd with Manmeet that he really went after her, voluntarily. And even then, it wasn't to make her his own, but to ensure that she would be spared from Manmeet. It was only to protect her from someone who wasn't worthy of her.

Even as we saw last week, Prem was ready to marry Ash...his only condition was that if he did, Heer would not be forced to marry Manmeet.

Prem never dreamt of making Heer his own...but in this case, their destiny decided for them.

didn't understand that about prem.

the second thing that i think you cheated on (explicitly! 😃) is how his stance of "the son will win, but the premi will not lose either" wavered after the whole fiasco at the sangeet? mehendi? oh, one of those wretched ceremonies where his father's actions forced his confession of love. i adored the fact that he could be nothing other than truthful! but i did get confused in one of the following episodes where he remembers heer's violently telling him to leave her to love muckmeet - just before he broke his lute. there was the sense that if preet hadn't come to tell him that heer knew muckmeet was mad and was keeping quiet, he ... may have sat quietly through his wedding to ashlesha? even though, his heart could feel all the tears that heer was shedding thinking she had betrayed prem and was alone in her battle against marrying muckmeet?



so here, it wasn't just his having seen muckmeet/prashant. the stars, and preet-meher, helped? but i must say, it was terribly sweet when - in his tirade against dirtchachi - he kept saying that heer "was not alone". that he was with heer. because heer had been crying about "being alone" - no one else had ever used that line before. it was like they could, and always would be able to, hear each other - whether they were together or not.

I see your point...I was not clear. I too admire his truth when he stood in a room full of guests and confirmed his love for a girl who was not his wife-to-be. But to go back to Wedding day, if you watch the video carefully, you see that Prem was eyeing MM even before Preet's interference. He was shooting darts at him even before he saw the tears in Meher's eyes. Preet merely helped push him to do what he would have eventually done, sooner. Preet only reassured him that if he himself didn't do something for Heer, no one else would. And then he still sat there...perhaps going over the possible consequences of his actions, were he to really do something at that very moment. Even here, Prem was thinking he shouldn't do anything that will hurt Heer or his family in any way. But, in the end, Heer's safety, his need to protect her came out on top above all else. Thus, his decision to confront MM.



here, too, i thought that prem was a bit obtuse: his father asked him about getting into a relationship of marriage. obviously that had to mean love - at least, that was what it looked was clear from his father's point of view.

You're right, his father did obviously see it to mean love. And maybe in the beginning, Prem did too. Maybe at first, he really thought he would learn to love Ash. He had to, for his father's sake. But this was all before he met Heer. Before he lost his heart to someone else. Before he met Heer, he was ready to learn to love...but when he met her, he didn't have to learn...it just happened, and the rest was out of his hands.

what i kinda disagree with (but sympathise with) is prem's saying that he did everything that his father asked him to do. if prem keeps his marriage and "love" separate, then yes, prem has always done everything his father asked him to do. but if his father meant that in his marriage, there should be love for his partner, then prem has always lied to his father. from the time that he wanted to propose to heer, he's kept the truth from his father.

I agree and disagree here. Prem really HAS always done everything his father asked him to do. Obviously his father can't expect him to fall in love with Ash right away, to love her before he's gotten to know her properly, to love her before marriage. Prem was always to learn to love her. His father merely asked him to marry the girl. Love would come later on its own time. So finally, when Lallu asked about his relationship with Heer, he said, "I love her". The Honest Truth. And ever since, he's always maintained - "I will do as you said and marry Ash, but don't expect me to love her, because that's no longer in my hands."



so i agree with you about this scene being the best of everything that has happened so far in hc's performance, and in spotlighting prem's character.

prem was asking forgiveness. but part of that forgivenss was for not having had the courage to talk to his father earlier. if part of his sorrow was that his father appeared to not understand him, then it was because he did have a role to play in confusing his father. by being someone who could keep his love and his marriage separate. when he knows very well that for his father, his god -- who talked to him about commitment and marriage but never used the word love -- all three words meant the same.

Yes, Prem should have talked to his dad earlier, but, in the end, he was only trying so very hard to go against his heart and fulfill his dad's wishes. He really thought until the very end that he would be a good son, and grant his father this one wish. As for keeping love and marriage seperate, he never intended to do that either....it just happened. And when he realized that that's the way it would be, he made no attempt to hide it. He was merely trying to protect his dad from something he had done that was beyond his control.

Hope I cleared things up for you there, I think I may have lost my train of thought.

prem was trying to juggle too many obligations. and because i can't think of him as anything but a very intelligent person, i can't excuse him for knowing upfront that this was going to happen.

I agree...he knew this would happen, but that didn't stop him from fighting it 'til the very end. All along, he just couldn't chose between his father and his love...in the end, his attempt to handle it all failed miserably.

prem was asking forgiveness from his father, because he had seen a long time ago, that he was going to cause that hurt.

Agreed...though he never intended to...in a way, I think in his attempt to not hurt his father, he hurt him more. But still, I can't say I blame him for the path he chose. He was trying to be a good, dutiful son. He was also trying to take care of Heer b/c that was his responsibility. Put yourself in his shoes...wouldn't you do the same?

y'know, seeing the character develop and flower in front of my eyes, night after night, i've been facing the horrid possibility that this is a perfect character. but i should've remembered that perfect would only be possible for a god. and prem is mein-bhagwan-nehi-hoon-prem.

I love what you wrote here...that this character is only fit for God....because yes, Prem is the epitome of "main bhagwan nahi hoon"....but he comes damn close, doesn't he? 😳 (Wow...do I sound biased or what? 😆)

and i really loved - almost best 😆 - what you wrote:



because from the moment that he made that ridiculous vow on his mother's head, i knew this choice was to come.

It was destined to be this way....

the only thing i would've wished for prem would've been that it would not have happened in so public a setting. but now that i think about it - did the crowd really matter? in the end, there was indeed just prem - and his father. the rest was wallpaper on the screen.

I too wish that it hadn't been in the midst of society's judgemental eyes. Of course they would never understand him...or Heer...or their love for one another.
But yes, as I said before, then, when he was talking to his father, the rest of the world vanished, and the only thing left was him, his father, and their relationship, their bond, that was on the verge of shattering into a million peices.



ah, yet another pkd. you are some magical folk.

Its the magic of Prem that brings it out in us....

once again, thank you. for the beauty of your words. and for their honesty. this rocked.
😃

Thank you, for giving my words so much importance that you found it necessary to gift me with this incredible reply. I appreciate it more than you will ever know.