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Posted: 17 years ago
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Maya, I loved your views, and must say I agree completely. The inward battle Prem was fighting was indeed between his happiness (his love), and the happiness of all others (that he keep with tradition and live up to the values he's been brought up with).

He chose the happiness of other because it was the right thing to do. But, he couldn't just turn a blind eye to Heer and let her walk into her own demise. All he wanted was to ensure her happiness too...He wanted everyone around him to be happy...only then could he be comfortable throwing his own life away. There would be no point to him marrying Ash if he couldn't ensure that everyone dear to him was going to be happy with said decision. Also, at the time, lets not forget that MM's truth had not come out to Heer yet. So, he thought, forget trying to wed Heer, it was much too late for that and too selfish for the likes of Prem, he would instead just insure that she was happy, safe.

It wasn't until the very end when he realized that he was free from his obligation to Ash (when she refused to marry him), that he felt he could perhaps fulfill his own wishes. Though, I think maybe he was a bit confused here...just because Ash let him off the hook, that didn't mean he could now go against tradition.

And to top it all off, in the end, his father told him to take Heer with him...otherwise, he probably would have left her there, atleast for the time being, and walked away empty handed.

Thank you for your views, Maya. I enjoyed reading them.

Love,
~P
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Good Point Estee...I kinda agree with Maya here.....

His engagement to Ash was always like a flick of a whip!

Even though we don't live in mideval ages....PREM has very high morals for Kalyug.....

And in all fairness..he would never wish to go against his lallu fathers wishes......me feels he almost sorta has a father complex!!

BUT miracles happen......and here Prem happned!

This prem of PREM is again no ordinary girl meets boy...falls in love defy world and blah blah......sort of Love story......

Their Love is compulsive....obsessive.....passionate.....and yet there is sanctitude....a chastity...there is freshness...and innocence..in this Love.....!!!

This Love does not demand or want anything....

This Love only Gives!!!

Prem wants to give Heer happiness!!!

But again he is not god!!.....

He will let her go...but not without a tears or pain....

He will marry his fathers choice but not without being a Jindaa laash coz his heart and soul has left his body.....

This Love is DIVINE........This Love Is Junnoon...This Love is Timeless.....It's eternal!!!

This Love is what makes people believe in Love....

Am I rambling.......*phew*

This Is prem for PREM!!!!❤️

and yes Estee...I hate him too!!!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nupur9

Good Point Estee...I kinda agree with Maya here.....

His engagement to Ash was always like a flick of a whip!

Even though we don't live in mideval ages....PREM has very high morals for Kalyug.....

And in all fairness..he would never wish to go against his lallu fathers wishes......me feels he almost sorta has a father complex!!

BUT miracles happen......and here Prem happned!

This prem of PREM is again no ordinary girl meets boy...falls in love defy world and blah blah......sort of Love story......

Their Love is compulsive....obsessive.....passionate.....and yet there is sanctitude....a chastity...there is freshness...and innocence..in this Love.....!!!

This Love does not demand or want anything....

This Love only Gives!!!

Prem wants to give Heer happiness!!!

But again he is not god!!.....

He will let her go...but not without a tears or pain....

He will marry his fathers choice but not without being a Jindaa laash coz his heart and soul has left his body.....

This Love is DIVINE........This Love Is Junnoon...This Love is Timeless.....It's eternal!!!

This Love is what makes people believe in Love....

Am I rambling.......*phew*

This Is prem for PREM!!!!❤️

and yes Estee...I hate him too!!!



N, thank you for making me smile. You've described it so very accurately...Prem, his views, and his ideas about Love, and what it is to be in love.

His values force him to do as his father says. He knows no other way.
His values also force him to ensure Heer's safety, her happiness. Afterall, thats his responsibility towards her.

But in the end, their love is, as you said, no ordinary love. Their love is about giving, and its so intense that in the end, it dictates their actions.

Brilliant tribute to Premeer's love, N....
I love you for this! :)
~P
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Posted: 17 years ago
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P...You wicked girl.......😛

I am looking at your siggy.....and thinking it's called "aa baal mujhe maar"syndrome that I Have.........

Getting you in this whole PREM's prem is going to cost me heavy...*deep Sigh*

But then I had said (though I must be high ) that I shall share everything with you!!!

*Deeper Sigh*

Oh well.......!!!😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nupur9

P...You wicked girl.......😛

I am looking at your siggy.....and thinking it's called "aa baal mujhe maar"syndrome that I Have.........

Getting you in this whole PREM's prem is going to cost me heavy...*deep Sigh*

But then I had said (though I must be high ) that I shall share everything with you!!!

*Deeper Sigh*

Oh well.......!!!😆



Oh stop with your I am High and Mighty act....You know you love me! 😳
Vaise, Thanks for staying true to your word (most of the time!😆)...
Edited by IndianPari - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Oops, Double Post! 😕
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Posted: 17 years ago
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This is fantastic writing and analysing by IndianPari & Estee.

Thanks for removing some doubts I had. I was just wondering why Prem is so confident about Heer, because the last time Prem & Heer spoke, Heer very categorically said she is happy to get married to Manmeet. It's very difficult to rebel against your own family if you are not sure about your love!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: jasw

This is fantastic writing and analysing by IndianPari & Estee.

Thanks for removing some doubts I had. I was just wondering why Prem is so confident about Heer, because the last time Prem & Heer spoke, Heer very categorically said she is happy to get married to Manmeet. It's very difficult to rebel against your own family if you are not sure about your love!



Thanks Jas.

The thing about Prem and Heer is that they've never needed words. He knows he loves her...her eyes give her away. And Prem has always been a firm believer that someone was made, just for him. He knows that Heer is that someone...they're meant to be, and no one can change that. Even after Heer told Prem she was happy to go w/ MM, he said, "if that's the truth, then why can I feel your heart beating to close to mine?? why do we always end up so close to each other?" Prem always knew...he could feel it. And if this wasn't enough to negate his doubt, the look Heer gave him after he stepped in and "saved" her during the wedding fiasco was enough to confirm his belief that she loves him. No matter how much she's tried to hide it, her eyes have always always given her away. Its in the way she looks at him...he doesn't need any other confirmation.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: IndianPari



Thanks Jas.

The thing about Prem and Heer is that they've never needed words. He knows he loves her...her eyes give her away. And Prem has always been a firm believer that someone was made, just for him. He knows that Heer is that someone...they're meant to be, and no one can change that. Even after Heer told Prem she was happy to go w/ MM, he said, "if that's the truth, then why can I feel your heart beating to close to mine?? why do we always end up so close to each other?" Prem always knew...he could feel it. And if this wasn't enough to negate his doubt, the look Heer gave him after he stepped in and "saved" her during the wedding fiasco was enough to confirm his belief that she loves him. No matter how much she's tried to hide it, her eyes have always always given her away. Its in the way she looks at him...he doesn't need any other confirmation.

It's all very fine in serials, IndianPari. But do you think in real life one can go against one's own family, just because the other person gives you the 'looks' and verbally says something else??

It's altogether a different thing Heer gave very positive reponse. That was POST his action of "saving" her. When Prem "stepped in" he did not know what would be Heer's reaction!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: maya123

Now this individual happiness (love for Heer) although being selfish also extended to the happiness of Heer. And so to resolve this issue within himself he felt that if he made sure that the guy Heer got married to kept her happy then he would be fine.

I think his behaviour was erratic because there was a battle within himself - to go for individual happiness versus group happiness.

In real life though such situations arise where one is making choices for personal happiness or group happiness. No one decision is right and balance the two can be quite tricky.

i quite agree with everything that you said. but my problem is his behaviour before he found out that heer was engaged to muckmeet.

he had just gotten engaged, and took his fiance and his brothers to a party at the hotel. there he ends up firing heer inadvertently. the first night that he asks why she has so much sorrow in her eyes. he doesn't even know her name. (hard sigh!)

the next day, meher is traumatised by preet. prem goes to do damage control and is rewarded by the knowledge that heer, meher's sister, is actually his outhouse guest. and after that adorable encounter, he is lost and knows it. it is after this that prem is outside her door, nervously figuring out what is the right way to propose to her.

y'know? in writing this, i think i have solved my own puzzle: between the make-meher-happy encounter and hovering-at-heer's-door with a proposal, he had run into his gayatri-mom. and i think gayatri-mom promised that she would talk to laluchacha to get prem married to the girl of his heart.

hmm, so he had such faith in his mother's word that for him it was as if he was freed from the engagement to ashlesha. and prem, being the highly focussed lover, was wasting no time in getting to the matter on hand -- get heer, the girl whose name he still did not know!

okay. done. prem problem #1 solved. 😆
Edited by estee - 17 years ago

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