wtf - 14 mar - Page 3

Originally posted by: Anhdara13

Heya E! *waves* We missed you this week. 😉 Am glad your competition seems to have gone well. Are congratulations in order? 😉😆 I have no idea where Bhav is, so I came alone.

hey your worship!!! *waving my medal(s) back by mistake... * yeah, we did good at the contest... surprisingly well, i thought. *wondering if i can convince mom that my hours spent on the kdmhmd forum had something to do with it.. 😆*

Anywho, nothing to say on the wtf. This show is just frankly annoying me now. It's going the way of most BT serials, the only highlight of my episodes: Meet!

i still kinda like the whole prem-heer tension bit... but ooh, did meet rock this week or what??!

when they ask me what's going on, my answer has become 'I don't know, I'm still waiting to find out!' 😆

😆

So I'm just here for the pooja, and after the Meet scene this week, what a pooja it should be no? Those little smiles, not just on (god) Preet's face, but also on his bestfriendwife's. So sweet. And somebody had mentioned, I'm not sure who, on the Meet AT that both of them at one point told the other not to let go. When Meher was chasing her husband around the room, she said "main tujhe chorungi nahin" and (god) Preet responded with "chorna mat". And when they fell, before they fell completely, Meher tells her husband "mujhe chorna mat". How sweet no? 😉

yes! they are the god-and-goddess of smiles! and to think that her smiles were not something i'd noticed from the very start! isn't it just peachy how that worked out??! 😃 and oooh! i didn't make that link! i must go hand out and make noise on the meet at, no? *making a note to do that the next time i login...*

I missed being able to stand right at the front for the pooja. Even though it was only once I had to stand at the back, but it's not an experience I'd like to repeat. *whispers* You can hardly see anything!

*frowning at that very important piece of disciple feedback...* hmm... really? 'cause i thought it was a large enough place to get to see everything in the front? hmmm...*making notes to ask the architect whether it's possible to build a temple kinda like one of those old roman amphitheatres where the outer audience were at levels higher than the audiences in the front! oooooh!!! that could make a desperately brilliant temple design, no??!!! running off with stars in my mind!!* thank you, you holiness!!!

*bows again, and tries to resist hugging the preetstess* Aw fuhgeddit. *hugs E* I missed you!

*grabbing the rare opportunity to hug her worshipness back -- 'specially after that rocking idea of the sunken amphitheatre temple for the (god) and (goddess) of smiles!* gee, your worshipness, you're thinner than i figured under that bulky holy robes covered over with the burqah... i hope they feed you well at the vatican? 😆

Oh, I almost forgot, this is to distribute to the poor outside. Cold coffee. My cousin made it. I tried to learn, but she estimates everything! 😆 *places (ph)ive jugs of cold coffee near the idol*

oooh, i love cold coffee... not as much as hot chocolate. but still... *and offering sympathetic looks at having to share kitchen space with people who are so good that they can churn out stuff based on estimations! if i had my way, i'd have separate measures for 1/8th teaspoon and 1/3 cups..! 😆*

thanks for coming. and for your valuable input, your worship! *waving at the high-security cavalcade driving off...*

Originally posted by: Soaps1

I totally understand heer's frustration, anger, guil and all...don't have a problem with it (i only have a problem when A/G overacts and dialogue writers write chapar chapar dialogues 🤢) May be heer feels betrayed but was death in Prem's hand? I mean did he want to be their at the time of blast purposely? Did he deliberately not fulfil those promises? heer feels betrayed and do you think Prem is feeling guilty? that he wasn't able to fulfil the promses and thinks she deserves better than him? Thats why he told her "Prem tumhey chour key giya ye sach hey waja chahey koi bhi ho"? He wants her not to love him so much? 😕

y'know? i've always liked ag's acting -- almost all through -- from the very beginning. there's rarely been a moment that i thought she didn't get heer right. the only times that ag has ever let us see ag rather than heer was in her english. but i always thought her anger and her expression of that anger was spot on. even her cheeky little smiles at the guy's discomfort.

and yes, i do think that the guy wants heer not to love prem so much. remember when he swung her out of the way of the speeding car and told her to take care of herself before taking care of others? i think her answer to him at that point -- why should i care about myself, when i have you to take care of me? -- was something that really shook him.

and? i think it wouldn't matter so much to him -- unless he was prem? or would it matter even to a random stranger? would a random stranger be shaken by the intensity of heer's love for prem? *sigh* i sooo want to know:

who is this guy??? 😕


I agree those were really weird and annoying dialogues Naaa i don't think he was talking about himself...as he was refering to an animal who killed its child to save herself.....Prem didn't do that....infact he asked for his death in exchange of heer's lfe....so ummm it can't be him! Yes Prem wasn't able to keep his word, his promise to heer........ummm but was it his fault? Also could it be that Prem after surviving the blast came to know of something that hurt him? May be he felt betrayed by heer or something............and now that he knows the truth.........is feeling guilty? 😕

well, i guess the point is like the guy said: ''people can say things that they will do when they are in love, or for love. but what actually happens is quite different. in times of stress, be it a human or animal, will fight for survival." that's exactly what happened (apparently) with prem, no? he said he'd be with her forever. but it was not in his control. it never was. so then - why say it? 'cause it is partly cause of what he said to her, that heer is actually doing all this, no? in fact, heer's doing exactly what prem in that cctv recording told her to do.

so - if he's prem, then rather than being betrayed by anything heer has done, he is feeling guilty at how much of her life and herself she is putting into what he has told her to do?

*am actually too tired to think coherently - so forgive me if this doesn't make sense...probably is all nonsense... 🥱😆*

A pharishta? Me and raksh were thinking more on the lines of a vamp 😆😆😆

the guy -- a vamp??!!! now there's a thought!! 🤣 would be fun at least, rather than inducing anxiety... 🤣 although i'm wondering: what's the meaning of a male vamp?? 🤣 what is it supposed to do... seduce the girl?? 🤣

But not knowing the guy, who he really is, has become quite irritating now. It just gives me a headache everyday after watching the epi. Suspense is good, suspense is what keeps a serial going....but how much and for how long?

agreed. they should really figure out what is the story and tell it straight now... these characters are too lovely to mess around with sooo very much..

Originally posted by: brokenheart61

it is awesome i loved it 😊

Originally posted by: hope08

I read somewhere in this post that you may be gone again next week. Will you?

ya, is likely. don't know yet -- 'cause a different team's already in place... but some of us may be told to go too. will know monday, i think. 😃

I also read your comments about the rasta roko. But don't you think if they would have shown the rasta roko from the time Heer was faking it wouldn't it have been a dead giveaway that Gaurav is faking it too.

well.. 😆 considering how they've given us lots of evidence that it is prem -- ie, like remembering his past with his brothers, knowing where the switches are in his room, sindooring heer -- and then giving us lots of evidence that he is not, all for one character! i can't think that anything's a dead giveaway by now.. no? 😆

The ooh factor in it was less because a) we don't know whether this guy is Prem b) in all the other rasta rokos neither of them speak to each other. its all about their eyes and body. in this Gaurav was shouting at her wanting answers. Morever, this is the first rasta roko where one of them is angry with the other.

i agree -- it wasn't supposed to be an ooh, i think. but it was .. a lovely face-off; a twist on an old beloved prem-heer part. neat -- i hadn't quite registered the no-words part of the other raasta-rokos! gee, you learn something new everyday, no? 😃

If Gaurav is an angel sent to get RR out of Heer's life then what happens after his work is done? Will he leave her and go?

or he becomes human and stays! 🤣 and if he can become human, he can also get all prem's features. and thus... becomes prem! 🤣 kinda phantastical... but hey! what part of prem-heer-are-one actually, isn't, no? 😍

I have also noticed that Gaurav has never explained or justified his reasons to Heer about joining RR. He let's her believe that whatever she saw was right. Why?

all the things you wrote is stuff that has actually been bugging me 'bout the guy from the start. and the only way that i could justify it -- right from the moment that hip-hop treated gayatri-mom decently - was that there had to be a prem in him. otherwise it was so weird to have one part of hip-hop totally at odds with everything else. at that time, i thought: hey, maybe prem's a ghost who steps in and out of hip-hop. *hey! if a stranger can do phhandooh that beautifully, then anything's possible, no? 🤣* after that, the contrasts have just grown and grown till i think -- is got to be prem, just got to. *sigh* but i never get anything in these shows right...

the only thing i can see right now is: for a guy focussed on the money, he is waaaay too caring of the juneja family. and his animosity with heer is faaaar too personal.

i hope whatever story they have coming our way, it explains why... prem or the guy...
😆

Originally posted by: estee

*sing to the tune of row, row, row your boat... 😆*

I am singing row, row, row, my boat...sink , sink , sink my boat for ever but save , save me from BT...😉

wtf, wtf, weekend thought featuring
at the end of the week,
weirdly, weirdly, weirdly, weirdly,
'cause this story's on such a strange streak!

That made me freak , freak...

well, i was tempted say this story has such a strange stink. 😆 but that would not be strictly true. i think i'd still watch it - after all, they've actually fulfilled one of my wishes for the show!** - is just that i wish they would pay at least as much care and attention to the rest of the story as they pay to the heer and pr..the guy parts. 'cause the pacing is still coming across as jerky and strange, no?

show is getting stinky , finky 😡 [do we have this word in dictionary 😳]

* wtf#1: so thinking... there are two... no, three broad themes to the show now?

Thinking????What???do we really have anything to think for last 2 episode😡...Nahi don't destroy your memory cells estee by thinking😭.Keep it safe for when we actually need to think about PREM-HEER romance😍

1. the stress between heer and prem, and keeping it up. (look, just permit me to say prem this wtf, 'kay? let's just assume i think that prem's not prem but is the guy? so when i say prem, i mean the guy, 'kay? 🤣)

Seriously now we need STRESS BUSTER to release our stress....I have become rubberband i am so much stretched now...No elasticity left for Stretching my stress😕

said this earlier, saying it again: when prem-heer-are-one, there were somethings that were impossible. which are now possible. like how could they ever fight? well, now they are fighting. how could heer ever be suspicious of prem? well, now she is. how could prem ever hold out on heer, taunt her, drive her to the extremesof anger and dislike? well, now he is.

saying it 100000 to infinity that PREM-HEER-ARE-ONE...😃.PREM has become Insane and Heer has become Disdane..🥱

and what i like 'bout it is that the tension comes from two drivers: one driver, of course, is prem. he's (apparently) doing all this for some deep reason. (which works either as prem, or as the guy. if prem, there must be a reason why he's pushing heer away so badly just now. works as the guy, 'cause for someone who was as casual and uncaring with the rest of the world as we saw hip-hop to be, he is waaaaay too polite and caring of the junejas - and yes! obsessive of heer! man, is he obsessed with heer or what?!! - to be dismissed.)

is this the way to get obsessed???I never knew when you obsessed with some one you start running away from the person for whom you are obsessed.😲

the other driver is heer. trouble is - i think she doesn't realise what she is doing. i think she is compounding prem's problems 'cause (for some strange reason) he's not able to be - or chooses not to be - open with heer. and i keep wondering why? even if he is just ''the guy'', why can't he grab her by the hand, and tell her that she should stop being confused between him and prem? that it's okay for her to be torn and angry, but that it is not helping anyone? that it is better if they went forward as partners in a common-goal -- to cure gayatri-mom? that he will try hard to be good, if only she will stay off his back?

it'd just be so much easier if these two can reach a truce, no? *thinking* and maybe they could've reached a truce if this whole accident thing and jail thing hadn't happened. which brings me to the second theme.

Oh!! yea you are right.

2. why did kuldi's hus-band chose jail? like this avatar of prem, this character has too many loose threads 'round him. i found the q&a session between him and prem interesting. when he said that he knew ''mera prem'' couldn't have done it, i was frowning. i mean, the evidence is that the guy did do it! what the heck is kiran talking about??! and what purpose is served by him taking prem's place? isn't that deliberate obstruction of justice? isn't it bound to come out?

everyone now want to become prem....except PREM himself.Pata nahi kiski atma pravesh kar gayi hai prem ke body mein...Aur remaining j joo members mein prem ki atma bas gayi hai.You know exchange of ATMAs.Sab log prem banne ki koshish kar rahe hai aur prem kuch aur ban gaya hai...😕

so, only thing i could think of was: kiran knows that everyone's gonna work to clear him. if it was investigated even half-well -- ie, a breath-analyser test was done -- it would be clear that he wasn't the driver. and the only other person missing at the same time was prem. so, eventually prem would become the other candidate. so -- kiiran's doing this to (a) get a better standing in the juneja zoo. and (b) delay the focus on prem. until...? what? what was the delay for? for ratty'sf forces to come into the picture? what else?

I think they are waiting for STUPID STAR PLUS TO COME INTO FORCE.😭

i think something's rotten in the world of kiran jiju?

You mean Rotten eggs , rotten tomatoes or rotten kachara...What????.I have seen him rotten always.He just sits at home , became ghar jamai , do nothing.Isse rotten koi hoga kya.Kaam ka na dhaam ka dushman aan [food grains] ka.

only thing is: i wonder if he knows/predicts that heer will bring evidence against prem? i think not? i wonder what his reaction will be when she does...?

and i wonder what will be the repurcussions on heer if she does offer up prem as the drunk driver that night. i think she's probably right in thinking that the law is not going to hang prem for drinkin'n'driving. but is she willing to be alienated by the family when she does so? or does she think that the family will stop thinking of prem as a lily-white person any more? poor thing, though. i can so imagine her guilt -- she set up this drunk to be prem. she was indirectly the person 'cause of whom kiran is in jail... poor heer.

forget it .As simple as that...don't think estee i am warning you.

3. last theme is... the saas-bahu serial that the rest of the junejas are in. 😆

one son is falling in love with his wife. *sigh! what a perfect son and what a lovely wife he seems to have got for himself!!! omg. i have to write a bt,lt just so that i can gush 'bout (god) preet and his changing relationship with meher -- meet rocks!*

HE is the only SANE person.I missed him in last episode.These creatives did not showed him once.

one son is regretting the error of his ways and trying to make up. and y'know? the whole harman-jzoo relationship thing has much nicer balance of error-realisation-regret-forgiveness-redemption than ever happened in the prem-jzoo episode, no? there the good was all on one side, and the bad was all on the other. only thing that was equal on both sides in that episode was there was stoooopid on both sides then... 😆

then, there's the saas-bahu stoopidity of vitchface and maya. and isn't odd? for me, even maya's ''love'' for harman is a more sincere thing than anything 'bout vitchface. i keep telling myself that in the whole juneja zoo, vitchface and lj (to a smaller extent) is the bad guys counterbalance to the rest of the good guys.

Don't remind me of these two.I just hate them.They get on my nerve.I am afraid i will get nervous breakdown if continue showing them more and more.Why don't maya gives her money and send vitchface off to Antartica or siberia so that she never comes back.😡

* wtf#2: of course, of the three themes, what i find new and interesting is the prem-heer face-off. *koi shaq? 😆* and it's not just that these two actors really play off superbly against each other. it's that it's actually a seriously intriguing puzzle as to why prem's doing that to heer?

what is wrong with the show is that - usually in a puzzle, we get little pieces of info that help us decode the puzzle. here? we don't seem to be getting any thing concrete at all. 😕

we're getting the dynamics between heer and prem. and i've liked all of the dynamics -- if not the pace at which they've happened. starting from:
- saviour glimpse at rajasthan (was he prem? did he know what he was doing?)

- hip-hop gayatri in ludhiana (was he prem? did he know what he was doing?)
- hip-hop-heer face-off in ludhiana (was he prem? did he know what he was doing?)
('cause if he'd made the unholy deal with ratpal by then, why did he keep refusing to admit that he was prem -- wasn't the deal that he should be prem? so why say he isn't? did the unholy deal happen after he interrupted the ratty-heer marriage??!)
- prem-heer post-marriage in ludhiana (after the cctv recording, he was prem! the ratty-prem handshake notwithstanding.)
- heer-prem post-bombay. (if he was prem at the marriage, of course, he's prem now!)

Don't ask these questions estee as creatives themselves don't know the answer.IF they did they would have shown us .So why waste your time on these questions.WARNING: Don't think and destroy your brain cells.No use.You will be finally left with Brain without cells.😭


it's just that heer's animosity towards prem started after seeing the handshake. this was before she discovered the money-full suitcase on their bed. and prem started thinking like ''the guy'' in his head. until then, he was clearly prem.
- heer-prem animosity part1: she is just blazing angry at him for the unholy deal; at herself for having thought it was prem. and he? doesn't react -- is he astounded that heer can't see beyond the handshake and just believe in him, despite the evidence?
- heer-prem animosity part2: she is blazing angry at him. and he is retaliating! he plays out to her imagination -- gets drunk, leaves the house in the middle of a pooja -- 'cause he is angry with her? wtf can't he just tell her he is him??? and why he is doing all this? just as she isn't giving him a chance, why isn't he giving her a chance? hasn't he heard? ''an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind''? 'cause that's exactly what prem-heer are doing to each other right now -- making each other blind! prem! stop it! it's in your hands! talk to her!
- heer-prem animosity part3: she is trying to reverse her earlier plan of getting him to play prem. 'cause he is being an ass. and 'cause she can't take the difference between the guy with prem's face and prem anymore. and he? he's back on his original plan, but struggling to control an antagonistic heer in the equation at the same time. *stoooopid! just talk to her! tell her! include her in your plan! stop punishing her! this is almost as bad as slapping her, damnit! 😡*

I agree.

so seriously, the thing that the story really needs to do just now is tell us/heer/someone! - who is this guy?! prem or not, it has been too long that he's been in the show for us to not have a clue! *other than just instinctively know that he is prem, of course! 🤣 'kay, sorry, i'll get back to calling him ''the guy'' now.. 😆*

back to pavilion with "the guy" ...good Its better to leave him in that state with no name ..nameless fellow "the guy".😆

oh well. i guess we're just gonna have to w&w to see how they play this out. i wonder what exactly they are planning for this whole jail episode thing. how it will end. and when the rat will come back into the picture -- 'cause i'm guessing that ratty will come back in, when heer-prem are reconciled. and they will together fight ratty and vanquish him. 'cause in the ramayan, ravan never wins. 😃

hmm.. and while we're waiting, i have no problem whatsoever, getting one half of a third of the show devoted to (god) preet, and his meher!

sooo sweet they are, they're unbearable!

Yes they have now became the only saviours and act as stress busters.😃

no really! they're the normal couple. starting off as enemies. then friends. then.. oh can i hope? .. making ''dil mein kuch ho raha hai'' in each other's hearts? they're not intense, and that is such a relief! to have one just plain enjoyable pair in this show. there are no strings attached. no promises fr loyalty beyond the 30 minutes of the show. except the lingering sense of the sense that everything's alright in our world. oh, the look on (god) preet's face just before he let go of the sofa edge and both of them dropped. the way meher had to bring herself to her senses when (god) preet asked whether they could get up. i think my heart is just swelling up with joy at the sheer memory of that moment!

They are normal like we use to be when we did not fall for prem and heer.I doubt they will be as normal once they come under influence of PREM and HEER.or the GUY-HEER.I think they should be away from these two else they will also become abnormal like us.😭

so this weekend, all hail (god) preet. and his oh-so well-deserved pal, meher. all hail, meet! y'know? this causes a bit of a logistics problem. 'cause at the temple of the god of smiles, we've only got the (god) preet statue. since i've realised that the sweetest preet smiles happen when preet is part of meet, i realise that i should get a second (smaller) idol of (goddess) meher made too. *making a note to budget a meher idol in the temple building funds* but till that happens, i've got a little framed picture of meet next to the idol -- besides this weekend, i think just the memory of meet's little ''dil mein kuch ho raha hai'' moment should make enough smiles to spontaneously appear and replicate and spread like a virus all over the temple today, no? how could it not?

so in respect of that moment, i'm not doing a prayer today -- i'm holding a moment of silence.

all ye disciples of the religion of smiles,
let us close our eyes, but
open our minds, our arms,
open our hearts, our souls,
open ourselves,
to the joy of the normal, the sane, the real,
that is our (god) preet
and his partner in meet.
let us be still,
and just... remember.

yES HE IS OUR god.Smile god smile...I love you, i pray for you.⭐️
remember this! and smile,

this! and smile,

omg! the look in his eyes!!!! argh! *forcibly thinking pure thoughts -- damnit! where did i put those pure thoughts of mine???!!!!*

UFF!!! so sweet and killer one

this! and smile.

*noticing here, that meher's smile here is quite superbly enchanting, no? sigh!!!*
(credit khushi without whom my btlt, my wtf, my preet-worship- my life! would be colourless and drab! 😆 http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1142836)

*deep sigh of satisfaction* there! wasn't that good!? gee, this quiet and meditation thing really works, huh? *er... for those of you with that ungainly drool all over your chin, there are disposable napkins by the temple doorway... use as many as you wish. or ... er .. need... carefully looking away from the sheepish smiles... 😆*

and there's such a air of calm happiness here, and such glorious smiles, that it is the wish of (god) preet that today, it is not his smile that will be prasad. but the look on each other's face that we should leave the temple with. and if the feeling of joy overwhelms you, don't feel shy -- reach out and hug your neighbour. spread the joy. spread the smile. and even if they may not have the classiest clothes. or may look a little grubby, spare a hug for the poor outside. spread the joy.

but, i'm gonna disobey (god)'s voice and give you this to take home along with your own smiles...

(omg! all hail (god) preet!!!!! 😃)

thanks for the smiles, guys. see you at the pooja next wtf? 😆

**: a wish of mine they've made come true? i remember wishing that every episode should be
part 1: something-something, some prem-heer
part 2: something-something preet/meet, some prem-heer
part 3: something-something preet/harman, some prem-heer
and oddly enough -- doesn't it look like the episodes are pretty much like that? good fun... ish. 😆