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*sing to the tune of row, row, row your boat... 😆*

wtf, wtf, weekend thought featuring
at the end of the week,
weirdly, weirdly, weirdly, weirdly,
'cause this story's on such a strange streak!

well, i was tempted say this story has such a strange stink. 😆 but that would not be strictly true. i think i'd still watch it - after all, they've actually fulfilled one of my wishes for the show!** - is just that i wish they would pay at least as much care and attention to the rest of the story as they pay to the heer and pr..the guy parts. 'cause the pacing is still coming across as jerky and strange, no?

* wtf#1: so thinking... there are two... no, three broad themes to the show now?

1. the stress between heer and prem, and keeping it up. (look, just permit me to say prem this wtf, 'kay? let's just assume i think that prem's not prem but is the guy? so when i say prem, i mean the guy, 'kay? 🤣)

said this earlier, saying it again: when prem-heer-are-one, there were somethings that were impossible. which are now possible. like how could they ever fight? well, now they are fighting. how could heer ever be suspicious of prem? well, now she is. how could prem ever hold out on heer, taunt her, drive her to the extremesof anger and dislike? well, now he is.

and what i like 'bout it is that the tension comes from two drivers: one driver, of course, is prem. he's (apparently) doing all this for some deep reason. (which works either as prem, or as the guy. if prem, there must be a reason why he's pushing heer away so badly just now. works as the guy, 'cause for someone who was as casual and uncaring with the rest of the world as we saw hip-hop to be, he is waaaaay too polite and caring of the junejas - and yes! obsessive of heer! man, is he obsessed with heer or what?!! - to be dismissed.)

the other driver is heer. trouble is - i think she doesn't realise what she is doing. i think she is compounding prem's problems 'cause (for some strange reason) he's not able to be - or chooses not to be - open with heer. and i keep wondering why? even if he is just ''the guy'', why can't he grab her by the hand, and tell her that she should stop being confused between him and prem? that it's okay for her to be torn and angry, but that it is not helping anyone? that it is better if they went forward as partners in a common-goal -- to cure gayatri-mom? that he will try hard to be good, if only she will stay off his back?

it'd just be so much easier if these two can reach a truce, no? *thinking* and maybe they could've reached a truce if this whole accident thing and jail thing hadn't happened. which brings me to the second theme.

2. why did kuldi's hus-band chose jail? like this avatar of prem, this character has too many loose threads 'round him. i found the q&a session between him and prem interesting. when he said that he knew ''mera prem'' couldn't have done it, i was frowning. i mean, the evidence is that the guy did do it! what the heck is kiran talking about??! and what purpose is served by him taking prem's place? isn't that deliberate obstruction of justice? isn't it bound to come out?

so, only thing i could think of was: kiran knows that everyone's gonna work to clear him. if it was investigated even half-well -- ie, a breath-analyser test was done -- it would be clear that he wasn't the driver. and the only other person missing at the same time was prem. so, eventually prem would become the other candidate. so -- kiiran's doing this to (a) get a better standing in the juneja zoo. and (b) delay the focus on prem. until...? what? what was the delay for? for ratty'sf forces to come into the picture? what else?

i think something's rotten in the world of kiran jiju?

only thing is: i wonder if he knows/predicts that heer will bring evidence against prem? i think not? i wonder what his reaction will be when she does...?

and i wonder what will be the repurcussions on heer if she does offer up prem as the drunk driver that night. i think she's probably right in thinking that the law is not going to hang prem for drinkin'n'driving. but is she willing to be alienated by the family when she does so? or does she think that the family will stop thinking of prem as a lily-white person any more? poor thing, though. i can so imagine her guilt -- she set up this drunk to be prem. she was indirectly the person 'cause of whom kiran is in jail... poor heer.

3. last theme is... the saas-bahu serial that the rest of the junejas are in. 😆

one son is falling in love with his wife. *sigh! what a perfect son and what a lovely wife he seems to have got for himself!!! omg. i have to write a bt,lt just so that i can gush 'bout (god) preet and his changing relationship with meher -- meet rocks!*

one son is regretting the error of his ways and trying to make up. and y'know? the whole harman-jzoo relationship thing has much nicer balance of error-realisation-regret-forgiveness-redemption than ever happened in the prem-jzoo episode, no? there the good was all on one side, and the bad was all on the other. only thing that was equal on both sides in that episode was there was stoooopid on both sides then... 😆

then, there's the saas-bahu stoopidity of vitchface and maya. and isn't odd? for me, even maya's ''love'' for harman is a more sincere thing than anything 'bout vitchface. i keep telling myself that in the whole juneja zoo, vitchface and lj (to a smaller extent) is the bad guys counterbalance to the rest of the good guys.

* wtf#2: of course, of the three themes, what i find new and interesting is the prem-heer face-off. *koi shaq? 😆* and it's not just that these two actors really play off superbly against each other. it's that it's actually a seriously intriguing puzzle as to why prem's doing that to heer?

what is wrong with the show is that - usually in a puzzle, we get little pieces of info that help us decode the puzzle. here? we don't seem to be getting any thing concrete at all. 😕

we're getting the dynamics between heer and prem. and i've liked all of the dynamics -- if not the pace at which they've happened. starting from:
- saviour glimpse at rajasthan (was he prem? did he know what he was doing?)
- hip-hop gayatri in ludhiana (was he prem? did he know what he was doing?)
- hip-hop-heer face-off in ludhiana (was he prem? did he know what he was doing?)
('cause if he'd made the unholy deal with ratpal by then, why did he keep refusing to admit that he was prem -- wasn't the deal that he should be prem? so why say he isn't? did the unholy deal happen after he interrupted the ratty-heer marriage??!)
- prem-heer post-marriage in ludhiana (after the cctv recording, he was prem! the ratty-prem handshake notwithstanding.)
- heer-prem post-bombay. (if he was prem at the marriage, of course, he's prem now!)

it's just that heer's animosity towards prem started after seeing the handshake. this was before she discovered the money-full suitcase on their bed. and prem started thinking like ''the guy'' in his head. until then, he was clearly prem.
- heer-prem animosity part1: she is just blazing angry at him for the unholy deal; at herself for having thought it was prem. and he? doesn't react -- is he astounded that heer can't see beyond the handshake and just believe in him, despite the evidence?
- heer-prem animosity part2: she is blazing angry at him. and he is retaliating! he plays out to her imagination -- gets drunk, leaves the house in the middle of a pooja -- 'cause he is angry with her? wtf can't he just tell her he is him??? and why he is doing all this? just as she isn't giving him a chance, why isn't he giving her a chance? hasn't he heard? ''an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind''? 'cause that's exactly what prem-heer are doing to each other right now -- making each other blind! prem! stop it! it's in your hands! talk to her!
- heer-prem animosity part3: she is trying to reverse her earlier plan of getting him to play prem. 'cause he is being an ass. and 'cause she can't take the difference between the guy with prem's face and prem anymore. and he? he's back on his original plan, but struggling to control an antagonistic heer in the equation at the same time. *stoooopid! just talk to her! tell her! include her in your plan! stop punishing her! this is almost as bad as slapping her, damnit! 😡*

so seriously, the thing that the story really needs to do just now is tell us/heer/someone! - who is this guy?! prem or not, it has been too long that he's been in the show for us to not have a clue! *other than just instinctively know that he is prem, of course! 🤣 'kay, sorry, i'll get back to calling him ''the guy'' now.. 😆*

oh well. i guess we're just gonna have to w&w to see how they play this out. i wonder what exactly they are planning for this whole jail episode thing. how it will end. and when the rat will come back into the picture -- 'cause i'm guessing that ratty will come back in, when heer-prem are reconciled. and they will together fight ratty and vanquish him. 'cause in the ramayan, ravan never wins. 😃

hmm.. and while we're waiting, i have no problem whatsoever, getting one half of a third of the show devoted to (god) preet, and his meher!

sooo sweet they are, they're unbearable!

no really! they're the normal couple. starting off as enemies. then friends. then.. oh can i hope? .. making ''dil mein kuch ho raha hai'' in each other's hearts? they're not intense, and that is such a relief! to have one just plain enjoyable pair in this show. there are no strings attached. no promises fr loyalty beyond the 30 minutes of the show. except the lingering sense of the sense that everything's alright in our world. oh, the look on (god) preet's face just before he let go of the sofa edge and both of them dropped. the way meher had to bring herself to her senses when (god) preet asked whether they could get up. i think my heart is just swelling up with joy at the sheer memory of that moment!

so this weekend, all hail (god) preet. and his oh-so well-deserved pal, meher. all hail, meet! y'know? this causes a bit of a logistics problem. 'cause at the temple of the god of smiles, we've only got the (god) preet statue. since i've realised that the sweetest preet smiles happen when preet is part of meet, i realise that i should get a second (smaller) idol of (goddess) meher made too. *making a note to budget a meher idol in the temple building funds* but till that happens, i've got a little framed picture of meet next to the idol -- besides this weekend, i think just the memory of meet's little ''dil mein kuch ho raha hai'' moment should make enough smiles to spontaneously appear and replicate and spread like a virus all over the temple today, no? how could it not?

so in respect of that moment, i'm not doing a prayer today -- i'm holding a moment of silence.

all ye disciples of the religion of smiles,
let us close our eyes, but
open our minds, our arms,
open our hearts, our souls,
open ourselves,
to the joy of the normal, the sane, the real,
that is our (god) preet
and his partner in meet.
let us be still,
and just... remember.

remember this! and smile,




this! and smile,



omg! the look in his eyes!!!! argh! *forcibly thinking pure thoughts -- damnit! where did i put those pure thoughts of mine???!!!!*

this! and smile.




*noticing here, that meher's smile here is quite superbly enchanting, no? sigh!!!*
(credit khushi without whom my btlt, my wtf, my preet-worship- my life! would be colourless and drab! 😆 http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1142836)

*deep sigh of satisfaction* there! wasn't that good!? gee, this quiet and meditation thing really works, huh? *er... for those of you with that ungainly drool all over your chin, there are disposable napkins by the temple doorway... use as many as you wish. or ... er .. need... carefully looking away from the sheepish smiles... 😆*

and there's such a air of calm happiness here, and such glorious smiles, that it is the wish of (god) preet that today, it is not his smile that will be prasad. but the look on each other's face that we should leave the temple with. and if the feeling of joy overwhelms you, don't feel shy -- reach out and hug your neighbour. spread the joy. spread the smile. and even if they may not have the classiest clothes. or may look a little grubby, spare a hug for the poor outside. spread the joy.

but, i'm gonna disobey (god)'s voice and give you this to take home along with your own smiles...

(omg! all hail (god) preet!!!!! 😃)

thanks for the smiles, guys. see you at the pooja next wtf? 😆

**: a wish of mine they've made come true? i remember wishing that every episode should be
part 1: something-something, some prem-heer
part 2: something-something preet/meet, some prem-heer
part 3: something-something preet/harman, some prem-heer
and oddly enough -- doesn't it look like the episodes are pretty much like that? good fun... ish. 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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C3PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP 🤗

how r u???how did ur competiton go??
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Originally posted by: ...Anita...

C3PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP 🤗

same to you!!!! and one more! 🤗

how r u???how did ur competiton go??

i'm cool. it was cool. and we were .. *trying to be as modest as possible* ... cool. 😎 majorly cool... 😎😎😎

what's up 'round here?? 😆 is everyone still in a swoon over all the heer-pre.. er... the guy face-offs? boy! is she getting under his skin or what, no? he's gonna seriously explode rsn, donchya think? 'bout time too, imho. *getting a bit breathless in the sheer anticiaption of the moment... * ☺️😍

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Originally posted by: priya.ria

😆..great job

😆 gee, i'm glad you thought it made sense... 'm feeling a bit rusty having been away for sooooo long...! 😆

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: luckyluv

hi estee missed u so much🤗



gosh! is sweet of you to say so. i'm glad to be back... although we're probably off again the coming week... what to do? we're just so pop-yu-lurrr! 😆

didja have fun at the pooja? wasn't meet ah-mazing??! *sigh!* what a totally adorable - and more unthinkingly enjoyable pair, no? none of the deep, complication that our prem-heer-are-one pair demands...

all hail (god) preet and his (goddess)! 😆
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hey congo on dat 🥳

i can't say every1's......swooning😆....
but right now i kinda wanna go wid story does have a strange stink😕 n it;'s becuming quite a pain to watch
gosh estee....we missed ur hopelessly hopeful-ness.......
i'm bursting to ask u this..... did u feel ny ooohhh abt raasta roko?? most of us din't 😕.....
n i do think he is gonna explode soon..... n i''m waiting for dat!!
n u know vibha is back😲😃
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hey estee you are back 🤗 missed ya hope the competition went well

<--- is all i have to say about this week's episodes....there has been so much confusion around that my brain has stopped functioning............i don't know where this track is headed, what they want to achieve through it.....what they want to gain by keeping the audiance confused about whether he is Prem or not and all.....this is one soap that is providing less entertainment these days and more headaches
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Originally posted by: ...Anita...


hey congo on dat 🥳

heh. thankooo.... 😳 *are embarrassed people allowed to be cool too? 😆*

i can't say every1's......swooning😆....
but right now i kinda wanna go wid story does have a strange stink😕 n it;'s becuming quite a pain to watch

ya, they are kinda doing all kinds of pretzel twists** and hair-bends in the story just to avoid telling us who the guy is, no??! silly p(h)eop(h)le, i tell you... i really think that one of the reasons must be to make another one of our wishes true, though, btw. i think they're trying to give us ratty-free shows! 🤣 and demonstrating to us that they can make us feel even more sick without ratty as compared with how sick we feel with ratty.

*thinking* hmm... is kinda weird how they seem to be working on making us feel sick, no? what a strange set of people, these creatives seem to be...
🤣

i'm bursting to ask u this..... did u feel ny ooohhh abt raasta roko?? most of us din't 😕.....
n i do think he is gonna explode soon..... n i''m waiting for dat!!

well, i felt an ooh, but not a phoooh-kinda ooh. i felt a ooh-he's-gonna-explode ooh! i seriously got the idea that he is maha bugged that heer's spoiling whatever plan he is working on! and even though he still wants to keep her confused 'bout whether he is prem or ''the guy'', he is coming to the end of his patience to control himself! that made me go ooooh.

but not quite a phoooh. not that. but i didn't mind. except - i did feel sorry for heer. she also looks like she's coming to the point of exploding, no? first she is sure that he is prem -- when he rescued her from marrying ratty. and then she thinks that he cannot be. and now! with the memory of that raasta-roko, she will be all confused again.

but y'know? i think that the creatives goofed up on which raasta roko they showed! what would have been perfect - actually beyond perfect! - would've been they're showing us the raasta roko that prem did to heer when she was pretending to have lost her memory! now that would've been a perfect match! to have shown us the original one *sigh!!!!* was a mistake. it made me kinda angry - that they were trying to jerk us around. but if they'd shown us the second memory loss one, it would've fit just right!

*sigh* i guess they're new and fumbling? i dunno... i still think there's an interesting story that's waiting to be heard... *well, you did say you were missing the hopelessly hopeful bit... 😆*

n u know vibha is back😲😃

wha....???!!!!!! what??!! really?? where is she??! she is okay? she got back?? does she have a post??

oh, i'm sooooooooooooooooooooo glad!! woot, woot, woot! back to the chop-up the episode days!

** story tied in pretzel twists: copyright smits, aka sshekar, author of destiny 🤣

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Estee....Esteee....*shakes head* how do u do dat? *shakes head*
u r making me believe dat there is an interesting story cuming up..... n i agree.... they shuld've used heer-faking-ml raasta roko instead.... nyways.... ur bt,lt will b up in sumtime???

n here goes vibha's post.....
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1142250
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Hey Estee,
Welcome back. So glad that you are back. How was the competition? Did you win it?
Totally agree with you about the themes. I was telling my friend that the story now seems to have two different track going - one with Heer and Gaurav and the other with the entire Juneja family incl Preet-Meher-Harman, Kiran-Junejas and Maya and Veera.
I'll still stick to Gaurav (because it is better for my sanity. The more I think he's Prem the more confused I get. So till they don't show anything concrete indicating he's Prem I'll stick to Gaurav). I agree with your theory. They are trying to show things that were impossible with the Prem and the Heer. Heer and Gaurav fighting, heer doubting Gaurav, Gaurav pushing Heer to take extreme actions, Heer risking Prem's family's happiness for justice. These are things that Heer wouldn't have done if it was Prem who was standing in front her, or would she? I guess we would never know. I always wondered why Gaurav never asked her this question as to would Heer have been so righteous if it was Prem who had got invovled in an accident? Also now I am starting to believe that Gaurav seems to be the perfect anti prem, but my question is how can be anyone be anti something without knowing the original? I still don't know whether Gaurav is Prem. Because I think the team themselves are trying to figure it out. The reason why I think that is they show Gaurav in his element and as the episode winds up they'll show one thing which will confuse you and make you think as to who the heck is this guy? You are right the best part of a puzzle is you get clues but all that we are getting is mixed information which can go eitherways. I am getting very tired with this whole track of who the hell is this guy? Whatever or whoever he is they should just stick to one thing and move ahead, don't you think? Do you think Gaurav is obsessed with Heer? I think she's surely getting to him but has it reached the obsession point? One thing that I have been noticing off late is that Gaurav is always looking at Heer. Is it because he thinks she'll do something that'll be a problem for him or is it because well he just can't take his eyes off her??
The question that's been bugging me for sometime is what's with Gaurav? Why is he so angry with the world? Is he really angry with the world or is it just a facade?
I think the whole accident thing would bring about a truce between Gaurav and Heer. Because in the end it will turn out that the accident wasn't Gaurav's fault and Heer will also know that he didn't steal the evidence and would start seeing him more as person than an animal she now thinks he is. I think Gaurav doesn't have any resentment towards her anyway. This is what I think will happen, but hey what do i know?
Yeah, why did Kiran decide to go to jail? What's the story behind it? Is he really so good? LJ always believed in the wrong people. After Prem's death he hoped and believed in Harman and now he can't see beyond Kiran. Does Kiran have something up his sleeve? Yes I would like to see what happens after Heer's day in the court. Will Kiran accept it or will he fight it and continue taking the blame?
Where is the whole Veera and Maya thing going to go? As per a news item Maya will eventually marry Harman and get into the juenja household to cause problems (check Tellybuzz). So that means that Harman will ultimately win the case because otherwise he won't be able to go back to the juneja house, right?
One more reason for Harman to be back in the house is because of the love blossoming between Preet and Meher. Preet is such a prankster. What I like the most about Preet is he's ready to accept Meher with all her weight and all and what's more he even teases her about her weight. I think it'll be Preet who'll fall for Meher. The whole scene between them was very cute. You are right they don't have the intensity but they are very normal which is such a relief in front of the heavenly creatures - Prem and Heer and their divine love.
Some of things that stood out in the whole of last week was Gaurav's stance towards Heer. I think he's softened his stand against her though she hasn't. Is that why he was concerned about her tears after the whole putting the thread around him scene?
What was the whole purpose of the new rasta roko scene? Is it not enough that they are confusing the audience now they are confusing heer also? When she truly believes that this guy is not Prem then why does a small act of him stopping her confuse her so much? Is it because, like us, somewhere she also believes that this guy is Prem?
As usual waiting and watching. Let's hope and pray for the best.

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