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Posted: 17 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: khushix



its either the dubbing..n the way it was edit....or they actually say it like that....🤣 and its not only in this show...other shows too....😆😆😆

i was watching the epi agen...got it burn on a cd for my mom...n i had to hear that agen...😆

n just wen i was abt to reply to u...bro was watching tv...i heard 'suicide' on TV....not 'sooside'....🤣

thats just the DESI accent, there are lots of words with the particular desi affliction that one can never get rid of unless they try real hard ( which i dont think they should) or the ABCD s who study here will not have it
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee




*deep sigh* i know what you mean. at the end of the 24th show, at the edgy look in prem's eyes before he stalked off, and the stubborn look in heer's eyes when she ran after him, i thought these two would come back with leaves and sticks in their hair after a big blow out and a big ... uh ... make-up session. seriously. 😳 am i a bad person for having thought that? 😆

NOT AT ALL.... just a true romantic, i think the makeup session will have to be next week as they had to show them get back to the party, we need to see some serious committment between these two before prem dies, a fact which i have accepted now, i did not understand what they would show if heer died but i can see a lot of things happening when prem dies, though i ll miss prem terribly but hopefully this show will not go down the drain as some ppl keep predicting bcos i like other characters in this show too, and i will enjoy watching harshad in other characters
I also think heer s acting has been great and she deserves to have a good story to tell
Wishes for upcoming weeks before prems death
- first kiss (maybe their last)
- makeout sessions (notice the s)
- real wedding functions, with actual ceremonies taking place, not like the original sagai, with heer and prem dressed up
- might not see heer in saris bcos i think they ll show married women wearing them more
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: khushix


its either the dubbing..n the way it was edit....or they actually say it like that....🤣 and its not only in this show...other shows too....😆😆😆

i was watching the epi agen...got it burn on a cd for my mom...n i had to hear that agen...😆

n just wen i was abt to reply to u...bro was watching tv...i heard 'suicide' on TV....not 'sooside'....🤣



😆 i think maybe the problem is using an english word in the middle of a hindi sentence? i mean saying suicide is difficult if you are going to say it fast? i guess, whatever... 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: fj08


i think the makeup session will have to be next week as they had to show them get back to the party, we need to see some serious committment between these two before prem dies, a fact which i have accepted now, i did not understand what they would show if heer died but i can see a lot of things happening when prem dies, though i ll miss prem terribly but hopefully this show will not go down the drain as some ppl keep predicting bcos i like other characters in this show too, and i will enjoy watching harshad in other characters
I also think heer s acting has been great and she deserves to have a good story to tell
Wishes for upcoming weeks before prems death
- first kiss (maybe their last)
- makeout sessions (notice the s)
- real wedding functions, with actual ceremonies taking place, not like the original sagai, with heer and prem dressed up
- might not see heer in saris bcos i think they ll show married women wearing them more



i think that something fundamental that has been built up so far will break if they have heer in the show without prem. i guess that there are all kinds of stories to tell, in all kinds of ways. i just didn't think that this was the story for all the other types.

i have never quite wanted some sign of commitment between heer and prem: ever since heer put herself in jail for prem, i've never doubted her commitment to him. and after that jail visit, i've never doubted his commitment to her. at least to me, all we have seen is how they have broken different social locks to keep that commitment. and that very sense of commitment, even if they've struggled against what society/family/loved ones expected of them, has often been enough for me - is that not strange? it has been more to convince me about love to see prem fight for heer's happiness than anything any other character has done. or now, heer willing to give prem as much space because she trusts him that much.

but yeah... i think a kiss would be terrific. purely 'cause i think we're ready for it. and 'cause i think this is the pair to do a terrific job of it. 😊 and yeah, i noticed the "s". 😆 and i totally agree.... 😍
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Posted: 17 years ago
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actually, triv (power20) runs the pattshala. i'm just doing a humble recounting of the episode.

but i'm glad you liked it.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee

i think that something fundamental that has been built up so far will break if they have heer in the show without prem. i guess that there are all kinds of stories to tell, in all kinds of ways. i just didn't think that this was the story for all the other types.

i have never quite wanted some sign of commitment between heer and prem: ever since heer put herself in jail for prem, i've never doubted her commitment to him. and after that jail visit, i've never doubted his commitment to her. at least to me, all we have seen is how they have broken different social locks to keep that commitment. and that very sense of commitment, even if they've struggled against what society/family/loved ones expected of them, has often been enough for me - is that not strange? it has been more to convince me about love to see prem fight for heer's happiness than anything any other character has done. or now, heer willing to give prem as much space because she trusts him that much.

but yeah... i think a kiss would be terrific. purely 'cause i think we're ready for it. and 'cause i think this is the pair to do a terrific job of it. 😊 and yeah, i noticed the "s". 😆 and i totally agree.... 😍

i know they are committed to their love but prem actually declared that heer is his wife, something similar from heer would be nice, i know being a traditional/ conservative girl she will not declare it quite like that or according to prem "larki hai na" she wouldnt do the same, but there are similar gestures that would show that, i mean she is already doing bahu things for all the family, i want to see some wifey things
and YEAH they do a wonderful job with them, i still get goose bumps listening to prem in their famous 9/11 scene for the hundredth time :)
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Posted: 17 years ago
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My luck....saw you are at it again.....your piece-de-resistence!!!!

As always a pleasure to read your Prem-Puran!!!!
Prem, I see has become larger than life...for himself....for the forum...for you!!!
Hmmm....I say one lucky guy....
Lucky to have so many adoring people eating/living/dreaming off his hand!!!
Amar Shone mona........ah woh bhi kya din the........*dazed out*
Deep Deep Sigh**
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hi Estee….good episode and your BT, LT does it justice! Awesome

* little thing: after heer took care to pick up prem's dupatta-thingie, what happened to it today??!! i want to know!

Trust you to focus on the last thing on anyone's mind!! It is a good question…

* prem's slap thing: 'kay, i guess everyone here knows i abhor as much as violence. even though there was a warning in that prem-fist tightening at his side, i was comfortable, thinking that it's prem, for crying out loud. even at his most angry, he didn't even slap prashant (just tried to strangle him with his own collar.. ).

writing that, even now, it feels like the strangest thing on earth. and no matter, how much i can see a certain inevitability of the action, there is still no justification i can come up with it. here's really what ended up bothering me after i thought and thought 'bout it. that it was a slap. and that it was only one slap. (you weren't expecting that were you?).
i know this was out-of-control prem. i thought he was going to get physically violent. when heer grabbed prem and tried to shake him, the most natural thing would actually have been to push heer away. and then, because that would have focused him on her, he would've kept pushing and pushing, while shouting at her. until they came to the cliff edge and the final push would've made her fall.
(btw, that was heart-stoppingly done! i swear - from the slap onwards, i was continuously flinching. but when she slipped... my heart was in my mouth. i felt the shock we see on prem's face in my bones, the shock that tells us that he has just been jerked back to being in control, that prem has come back to us. i felt it, i tell you. seriously - i hate how this show has me hooked... )
but instead of pushing her or something, prem slaps heer on her face. i've always detested that action of violence. your face is your identity, your personality. hitting someone on the arm, or on the bum, or something is so much less.. of a personal affront than with a slap on the face. why? why?? i don't think i can forgive prem, my poor-violently-passionate-about-heer prem, for having slapped her.
*silence from my little gang -- acceptance on this one thing.*

This was a very big deal for me. I had already read on the forum about what happened and seeing it was much worse. I thought about this a lot after….of course after having given due consideration to the other parts of the episode as well. I agree that there is absolutely no justification for what he did, but Prem jerking back to reality at the end of the scene made me really want to analyze what would have driven him to this point.

Prem has carried the burden of being the cause his best friend's death for years (???) (frankly, his family is sure as heck not equipped to deal with his emotions…yes G-mom included) So, he is finally with the one person who was meant for him (add to the pile of guilt) and just when he is feeling happy and secure a ghost from his past pokes at him…and since then we have seen him zoning in and out of reality…totally losing it when the song was playing, the urn in his bedroom…as if Sanjana was daring him to be happy when she herself was dead...and adding MORE to his pile was the fact that he lied to Heer.

Heer did not demand explanation…she was just trying to tell him that she did not care about his past…but maybe he wanted to let it all out and be done with it…to be forced to reveal what was really bothering him. Heer has been brilliant in understanding him and pushing him to blurt it all out. Her understanding at this point did not really help the situation…I think she was afraid of what she would hear from him and then she'd be the one to deal with it. Sorry, but in a cowardly fashion, Heer let the burden rest with Prem.

The saree was the final straw…and yet Prem walked away. Had they left him alone at that point, he'd probably have spent the night on the cliffs, guilt eating him up…he would have been back…controlled, but the demons inside him very much alive. But Heer followed him and what followed was Prem lashing out at Sanjana and NOT Heer...for having killed herself and for taunting him with the song, the urn, the saree…that's my take on it…and no, not an excuse for Prem. The slap was…collateral damage…and still not justifiable. Prem after all "bhagwan-nahin-hai" and Heer is the one person that he has shown, he could hurt…because he does not consider her different from him…she is just an extension of his self.

Yeah…it was a shocker all right.

* prem thing: in-control prem doesn't know about out-of-control prem. which, btw, i was fiercely glad for. we get at least that little consistency about prem and his violence towards heer - he had been in extreme distress. when he has his heer safely away from the cliff's edge and back in his arms, it's like it's the first time that he sees where he is, where they have come. it's like he really doesn't have a clue! (which makes me wonder: when he was stalking away from the world, in his blind rage, was he headed towards the cliff's edge to do himself some bodily harm??)
btw, i loved how shaken both of them were. they were literally shivering at their close call, both of them, clutching each other in desperation. the intention was superb. the acting was lovely. i just sooo badly wish these two had a better editing team to put the final product out better. 'cause that bad editing was something that kept standing up and waving "yoo-hoo!" at me from prem's story of sanjana to heer.

Yeah…loved his expression just as he pulled her away….some awesome acting by HC…I simply forget that it is HC that we are really watching and get so caught up with prem…his actions…his expressions…

Loved everything you said about Preet. He is just an awesome brother to have…really knows his PB and the rest of his family. He was excellent…especially with kooky!!


* prem thing: what to say 'bout prem's recital of his vow of everlasting love for heer? i loved the start of "today, i, prem juneja" but more i loved that the first thing that he took permission from to take heer as his wife was ... "these winds"! after all, these are the winds that have always danced around his head, puffing up his hair, acting as a signal that "his" heer was in front of him. and in the end, "mein prem juneja, aaj, apney naam kay saath, apnay astitva, apnay shareer, aur apnay atma kay saath, heer maan ko apnay dharam say, karam say, dil say, aur apnay har jasbaath say, apni patni maanta hoon."

it was firm, it was bold, it was all male, it was ... prem claiming ownership of heer, in front of all the world to see? no, for me, it was more like showing her, in front of everyone, that he s going to match her gift of love with his gift of .. himself and all that he stood for.
*thu... (oh wait a bit, though. can a pool of goop go *thud*?? hmmmm... )

and the best thing of all? this was a .... prem-heer eye conversation! only this time, we get to hear what those eyes are saying! unlike all the other times, where prem and heer can understand it 'cause ... well, they are one. but we always had to guess. and see?! what pretty-pretty conversations those eyes make??

This totally bowled me over…I have no words…you seem to have said it all. And Heer looking up at him with such adoration when he reached out for her hand….awww…. I am not ashamed to admit that had tears in my eyes….and that entire dialogue was so well said…it will take me a while to get over this…..are you calling him 9/25-Prem now?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: estee



actually, triv (power20) runs the pattshala. i'm just doing a humble recounting of the episode.

but i'm glad you liked it.

Ah...the ever modest....unassuming......unpretentious Estee......!!!!
If this was a "humble" attempt.........
I am waiting to see what a full blown Prem-Puran write would be like!!!
Waiting....hoping.....Nupur!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: sshekar

The saree was the final straw'and yet Prem walked away. Had they left him alone at that point, he'd probably have spent the night on the cliffs, guilt eating him up'he would have been back'controlled, but the demons inside him very much alive. But Heer followed him and what followed was Prem lashing out at Sanjana and NOT Heer...for having killed herself and for taunting him with the song, the urn, the saree'that's my take on it'and no, not an excuse for Prem.

that seems to make sense, he did not hit heer, he was hitting out at sanjana, and thats why he didnt apologise to heer too bcos Out of Control Prem had slapped Sanjana
edit: you know i was just going through the pics i realised that after the slap prem tells heer that things like "now u want to know whats wrong with me? so he was angry at heer not sanjana, because she had just told him not to worry and that she didnt want to know anything and was demanding answers now,
Edited by fj08 - 17 years ago

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