The Flop Track Of Ek Chaat Drama - Page 10

Originally posted by: dahibhalle

I don't think we can generalise ,categorise or judge what audiences trp or otherwise want.

We watch or read what entertains us and that is the only justification really for any fiction. It may be morally ambiguous or even reprehensible but as long as it entertains us, we will watch.

I am entertained by the awkward Prerish scenes so I overlook the speed at which Bajaj has fallen for Prerna and am irritated instead at what I consider Anurag ogling Prerna . I assume those who are entertained by Anupre interactions can justify them and probably find Bajaj repellant.

That’s what I said, we cannot make hasty generalisations but the trends shift towards a common behaviour and rightly said entertainment is subjective and can never be prejudiced.

We have people who love a movie like Bharat and we have a set of audience who loves October and we have a set who might like both.

Does that mean one form of entertainment is superior than the other? No, certainly not. Art is subjective, so is story telling.

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

I agree with all your points and have a good Logic but please understand dual relationship complexities do not sit well with TRP audience. They get confused and have a particular set of reactions. I will not go back to explaining about how and why the Husband-Wife relationship has importance for TRP.

That’s what doesn’t work in the TRP world. The duality and complexity!

That’s simply my point.

Just to put things in perspective. There was a show long back and the online audience were angry at the FL keeping a Karwa Chauth Vrat for her so called ‘Grey’ husband and eating some food picked up from dustbin.

There was anger and Furore but, guess what? That episode had the highest TRP ever!!!

It’s a SAD REALITY. It’s VERY SAD.

So, what you wrote are great points, logical too. But sometimes life, stories and business models of ITV works very differently. It’s not about LOGIC, it’s about the shock value that sells and then kitchen politics and finally MARRIAGE sanctity.

I have to disagree here because:

1) This show is seriously very low on drama...that too interesting drama...So far every track churned out has been a copy of tracks already shown before in this very season. Started with Naveen track, then Komo, and now Bajaj...There is no new drama for people to get interested in. It is THAT boring and uncreative. And by the way its not only the tracks itself, but the scenes are also the same scenes repeated like yesterdays accident scene...Pretty much exact carbon copy of what happened in Naveen track except minor details. So its hard to believe its the drama which by the way rarely has a high point, is what the TRP audiance is attached to in this show. The only times that high drama has sold is where the leads are shown to win against or in the process of winning against the villains so far shown in the show. Be it Komo track or Naveen track....The highest peaks of TRP has been during those times with both the leads in close proximity. Otherwise TRP audience would have been disgusted with Pre residing in BB after Anukom marriage.

In KzK2 even the kid drama ie, introduction of Kuki, which has been introduced for the first time in the show, still did not increase its TRPs. A track that almost all TRP audiences relate to...I believe this is also because of how the kid was introduced to the show being a major detriment to and used as a major cause of anguish and destruction to the lead pair they have been showing for 9 plus months.

2) The kind of show that you gave an example of are where the main lead is a so called 'grey' hero...NOT the third angle.

There is a reason I feel that practically every show has a lead pair around whom the show is built on. Its to form a basis for people to relate to keep following a show continuously..Other wise why would makers pay hefty amounts of to bring big actors as lead pairs if they belive TRP audiance have no loyalty to a lead pair at all through out its course.

3) Given my two above points, I don't see any scope for TRP audiences to feel Bajaj is "wronged" if the former lead pair is shown to interact even a little bit in a cordial or caring manner since Bajaj is the one who was instrumental in separating this pair and that too without showing ANY remorse.

We all have a basic sense of right and wrong...what ever religion or country. Showing someone arm twist a nearly 2 decade's younger pregnant girl to marry a 44 years old man to save her former lover/husband/fiancee from a jail sentence that would be wrongfully put on him, does not give any basis for people to feel that person is wronged when that wife is not showing affection for him or still being a bit caring to her former fiancee/husband.

I feel if they want TRPs, they need to show a little bit more confidence and give time and scope to Bajaj and Pre to come together as a pair and make Anu move on or have Anu take a break or completely let go. Old audience can't warm up to a new pair when the old one has been destroyed and one half of that pair is constantly shown to be still immensely hurt and in complete despair. Those who can't let go of what Bajaj did to Anu without any redemption would move on to other shows, and new people would have to come into fill that space, but they have to prepare for the initial drop till they develop a loyalty to the new pair.

The fact that they are reluctant to move forward and let Anupre go completely for now, shows that they are still banking on the hope of Anupre and those who connect with Anu mostly to still be there to watch the show. Ekta made a big mistake this time in giving so much scope to Anupre for the past 9 months...They made them stick to each other no matter what for too long that they won't welcome a new pair with either of them without affecting the TRPs. And they are making a bigger mess of it by having all of them at the same residence too. But then here also it shows that they want Anupre to still interact and keep that audiance intact even now.

BY the way, just out of curiosity, have you watched this show from the beginning?

@sheaish. Well said 👏 i dunno how bajaj became the wronged party here 😆 anurag is the one who was wronged , he doesn't know what struck him ..he has no idea what is to be done whats right or whats wrong . He is totally deranged..and bajaj is the wronged party?Bajaj is getting more that he expected from this marriage. Thank god for small mercies prerna is not acting like a good wife to bajaj to make anurag move on..that would be cruel..

Who is responsible for bringing all of them together? Bajaj...he wanted to teach anurag a lesson, for that he came in bb with his family and they are a few steps away from becoming hum saath saath hain family 🤣 thanks to prerna...he is.not moving out now also inspite of new nautanki everyday. ....

Originally posted by: _charu_

@sheaish. Well said 👏 i dunno how bajaj became the wronged party here 😆 anurag is the one who was wronged , he doesn't know what struck him ..he has no idea what is to be done whats right or whats wrong . He is totally deranged..and bajaj is the wronged party?Bajaj is getting more that he expected from this marriage. Thank god for small mercies prerna is not acting like a good wife to bajaj to make anurag move on..that would be cruel..

Who is responsible for bringing all of them together? Bajaj...he wanted to teach anurag a lesson, for that he came in bb with his family and they are a few steps away from becoming hum saath saath hain family 🤣 thanks to prerna...he is.not moving out now also inspite of new nautanki everyday. ....

Exactly. Everyone saw that Bajaj is the one who brought them into her ex's home that he still is living in with his family and upar se she is shown to be pregnant with Anu's baby too. How would anyone feel that Bajaj is the one being wronged here?

I can get that people would hate to see all of them living together in the same house and seeing all these stupid interactions between these three leads would put anyone off big time. BUT I still fail to see they are feeling so because they feel Bajaj is 'wronged' here.

The only reason that all leads shifted to BB is that Basu's family is still considered the main family around which the show is based on in addition to cause they can't afford to have two major sets as of now. Otherwise they would have shown BM as the focal point from now on and shown BB separately. They still want Anu as much of a focal point and Anupre as much a focal point as Bajaj and Pre.

These makers are really such cowards. Want to establish Bajaj and Pre as couple but afraid to let Anupre go. If the makers feel that Anu and Anupre have little to do with TRPs thus far, they would have confidently gone forward with BajPre. Come on CVs show some guts so audiences can settle one way or the other. They are doing a disservice to Bajaj too this time. If they had been slower in building him up instead of so in the face in such a short time...it would have given people time to warm up to him and understand him too with his backstory, before they rushed with Bajaj and Pre marriage. Practically everything was handled pathetically through out this track.

@SheAish: This is best reply I have read on this topic! Very well explained👏

I so agree with the below para.The makers want to eat their cake and have it too...which doesn’t seem to be working for kzk

Originally posted by: SheAish

I feel if they want TRPs, they need to show a little bit more confidence and give time and scope to Bajaj and Pre to come together as a pair and make Anu move on or have Anu take a break or completely let go. Old audience can't warm up to a new pair when the old one has been destroyed and one half of that pair is constantly shown to be still immensely hurt and in complete despair. Those who can't let go of what Bajaj did to Anu without any redemption would move on to other shows, and new people would have to come into fill that space, but they have to prepare for the initial drop till they develop a loyalty to the new pair.

Originally posted by: dahibhalle

I don't think we can generalise ,categorise or judge what audiences trp or otherwise want.

We watch or read what entertains us and that is the only justification really for any fiction. It may be morally ambiguous or even reprehensible but as long as it entertains us, we will watch.

I am entertained by the awkward Prerish scenes so I overlook the speed at which Bajaj has fallen for Prerna and am irritated instead at what I consider Anurag ogling Prerna . I assume those who are entertained by Anupre interactions can justify them and probably find Bajaj repellant.

This above is what I fail to see. I feel like you are watching a different show. Just my POV. (And I did not watch any previous version of this show and have no interest in that plotline)

Anurag and Prerna slowly developed a relationship and fell in love over a year and survived Naveen Babu and Komolikka. Just as we expected to see them together happily married, Mr. Bajaj, a ruthless businessman snatched Prerna away from Anurag. Anurag was wrongly charged with a crime he did not commit and Mr. Bajaj took advantage of this situation and married his fiancee! I feel only Anurag has any rights over Prerna. Prerna has rights over Anurag. Mr. Bajaj has zero rights here. This marriage means nothing to me. It is a deal, not a real marriage.

To watch Prerna even speak to Mr. Bajaj is repulsive. Every time he interacts with Anurag and Prerna I only see him as a blackmailer who wronged them.

Originally posted by: Pinot

This above is what I fail to see. I feel like you are watching a different show. Just my POV. (And I did not watch any previous version of this show and have no interest in that plotline)

Anurag and Prerna slowly developed a relationship and fell in love over a year and survived Naveen Babu and Komolikka. Just as we expected to see them together happily married, Mr. Bajaj, a ruthless businessman snatched Prerna away from Anurag. Anurag was wrongly charged with a crime he did not commit and Mr. Bajaj took advantage of this situation and married his fiancee! I feel only Anurag has any rights over Prerna. Prerna has rights over Anurag. Mr. Bajaj has zero rights here. This marriage means nothing to me. It is a deal, not a real marriage.

To watch Prerna even speak to Mr. Bajaj is repulsive. Every time he interacts with Anurag and Prerna I only see him as a blackmailer who wronged them.

As usual the plain , simple and clear to the point...

THIS ....This is exactly why BP Marriage, Bajaj falling in love with Prerna and Bajaj’s Gloating abt marriage bond .... UNACCEPTABLE ....

two Innocent people have been wronged majorly here .... how can one think of building castles over their grave ??

And grey characters at the end do have the sense of righteousness..... even black is good to his own family not a big deal ... but a grey keeps her/his righteous moral compass in check and it’s not just for family it’s for All .

Originally posted by: opsora2090

ha ek riste ka developing hote hai . yup this is deal marriage , but this is a marriage. No matter what , they are in relationship and in legal way. so if bajaj grows feelings for her then as a husband he is not wrong . prerna gives that chances to fall on her . according to deal , prerna should be only kuki's mom , not be wife of bajaj. but prerna from beginning , specially after swiss track , behaving as a typical wife. she is taking care of her husband, she felt insecure when her husband ignored her. she unintentionally wants the importance and to be noticed by her husband. then sawing this signal if bajaj grows feelings for her then it is not mistake. and at where it is written , a relationship could not be developed. anupre was a friend at beginning. dint their friendship develop later ? now anurag does not want to say her friend ,cos she is his lover.

But YOU and PreRish fans want the development, the characters, especially Prerna do no want the development. We all talk about consistency but in this case there is consistency about how Prerna should be behaving with Bajaj. Bajaj married Prerna because he saw that she was compassionate and empathetic towards Kuki. However, Prerna's feelings will extend to Bajaj because 1. He is Kuki's father, and 2. Because Prerna can't see others struggle. That was why she got into this whole marriage in the first place. Prerna caring for Bajaj is Prerna being Prerna not acting like a typical wife. She got upset because Bajaj was being rude, what's so wife-like about having hurt feelings about being ignored. Again, Prerna feels like no one else does. She's not giving Bajaj wrong signals, she's been like this since the start. Bajaj having feelings for Prerna is making situation more convoluted.

It is not about the kissing , hugging always. Romance has a lot of language. No matter what , prerna is married now. and a married woman should not spend time for a long with lover rather than husband. in this show , cv is showing us the emotional moments of Anupre a lot of times. when prerna's mom was in jail, her concern was more for anurag than mom . she was helping anurag to make tea. she was lecturing her how to move on . her husband was on hospital . but her focus was on her lover. Then how she was a loyal wife and daughter? it is not about how much you love / hate anyone. it is about importance, concern and priority. Right now she has a lot of responsibilities. so her priority should be her family , not her ex lover life. but in show cv is showing prerna sharma's dukhiyari version , not Mrs bajaj. then why TRP aunties will take this? even online fans are not happy with this track .. then what is bajaj 's fault only ?

No matter what, the foundation of the marriage will not change this easily. As a married woman, Prerna doesnt BELONG to Bajaj, especially since the marriage happened through some manipulation. Prerna doesnt owe Bajaj shit besides being Kuki's mother. As @ifmmember said, Prerna had disclosed her feelings about Anurag to Bajaj when they were getting married, in PLAIN AND SIMPLE WORDS. And Bajaj brings Prerna to Anurag's house and expects Prerna to what exactly? Stay away from him, be in emotional pain, be isolated in the whole house where the only person that she can actually talk to is Bajaj himself? That sounds a lot like an abusive relationship to me.

ok now you could say prerna never could bajaj's wife cos of bitter experience. then totally she should hate bajaj. why this concern for him? they way she was behaving on dance floor, on phone call , on cupboard scene . it was showing she was so comfortable with bajaj and his closeness . then after some min she went to anurag . Then how come she is loyal ? she literally is taking bajaj as granted. it is now completely looking like Extra Marital Affairs more than family drama. and how come these tracks is getting 1.8 that is the burning questions right now.

Because she literally has no other option. She burned her bridges with everyone else in the process of fulfilling Bajaj's deal. And It's either she feels bitter towards everyone in that house or take advantage of the situation as much as she possibly can and be civil with both Anurag and Bajaj. Prerna is not just alone in that house but lonely. How can she possibly survive in that house if her role is literally only reduced as Kuki's mother and nothing else. Prerna loved Anurag with her whole heart, still does, she can talk to him, she can joke with him, she's living with him for god sake, how can anyone expect her to ignore the most important person in her life. If not anything else, she can get emotional needs met with Anurag and I don't blame her one bit.

@RS: Your are so right about @Pinot and her posts. Every time I see one of her's I'm like this girl calls a spade a spade and is done with it just like that. No beating around the bush. I see my long essays and I wanner bang my head....

@Pinot does seedhei bath no bakwas so well I'm in awe of her everytime and it never fails to crack me up either with her play of words. Kudos to you man.

Originally posted by: Pinot

This above is what I fail to see. I feel like you are watching a different show. Just my POV. (And I did not watch any previous version of this show and have no interest in that plotline)

Anurag and Prerna slowly developed a relationship and fell in love over a year and survived Naveen Babu and Komolikka. Just as we expected to see them together happily married, Mr. Bajaj, a ruthless businessman snatched Prerna away from Anurag. Anurag was wrongly charged with a crime he did not commit and Mr. Bajaj took advantage of this situation and married his fiancee! I feel only Anurag has any rights over Prerna. Prerna has rights over Anurag. Mr. Bajaj has zero rights here. This marriage means nothing to me. It is a deal, not a real marriage.

To watch Prerna even speak to Mr. Bajaj is repulsive. Every time he interacts with Anurag and Prerna I only see him as a blackmailer who wronged them.

I was a passionate supporter of the winner of Big boss 11 because I found her entertaining.However there were many who hated and loathed her.

When we could all have such different perceptions of a "reality show",this toh is fiction and is open to different interpretations.

I briefly followed this show when Hina entered and I found the Anurag-Prerna relationship awful.

Unlike you,I am neither invested in nor entertained by Anurag or his love story so my perception of the story will be different from yours and the fact that we have differing opinions on the show is ok.