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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you! I am glad you agreed with me about Uruvi's hidden motivation.

Now yours is an excellent and very detailed analysis of the scene 👏. I agree with all of it, and I specially appreciated your going back to get the exact quotes, which is essential for any proper analysis.

The whole thing reads like screenplay notes that a really good scriptwriter might have made!

Shyamala Cowsik


Thank you very much! I must confess I wasn't actually thinking about this until you mentioned Uruvi's psychological dimensions...so I essentially owe it you! I think rewatching the scene gave me a better idea of the conversational layers between the two, it felt like there were two simultaneous conversations going on!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mrym_rauf

i loved their meeting! loved how she was mesmerised by karn! loved how they locked eyes with each other for the first time but karn immediately lowered his eyes, i just loved this gesture of his but urvi cldn't take it so she went ahead n stood infront of him, locking her eyes with him but this time with little bit of angst in her eyes! m just loving their sizzling chemistry!


Yes..I liked that bit too...I am amused that she is so irritated by Karna avoiding eye contact! 😆 She was pretty much in a trance when she looked back at him but the minute he began to talk and avoided eye contact...was the minute she got annoyed! 😆 I am liking the buildup of their dynamics...I hope they can maintain it! Because it's essentially a love story.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..KarnaKriti..

Speaking of Jodha-Akbar, it reminds me of all the hamam scenes there😆 and we have already got two snana scenes here as well! 😉 Similarities much! 🤣 🤪

Hoping the trend will continue.



😆 It's a good trend!


Originally posted by: Carmilla

She looks mantra mugdh ☺️ n who can blame her !


I certainly don't! 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AngelicNee


thats superb analysis.. now thinking about it , it maybe urvi's feelings.. she is affected by him and she is disturned.. its liek she is asking can you take responsibilty for my growing feelins.. can you reciprocate it.. if not why shaking m heart..


I don't think Uruvi is necessarily aware of the implications of the conversation but viewers do get additional access. Their exhange clearly had more layers...it wasn't a linear process! I feel this gemstone has become a symbol of sorts...she wants the jewel to be returned to the state it was, before Karna damaged it with his arrows...these are very obvious metaphors. I liked the hidden complexity in their first conversation!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Well, my dear, you might have picked up this angle from me, but the extended, comprehensive analysis was yours, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

By the way, you could, if you like, call me Shyamala Aunty, as a lot of people in the IF do, for I am 70!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo


Thank you very much! I must confess I wasn't actually thinking about this until you mentioned Uruvi's psychological dimensions...so I essentially owe it you! I think rewatching the scene gave me a better idea of the conversational layers between the two, it felt like there were two simultaneous conversations going on!

Edited by sashashyam - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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My reference was to the scene between Aishwarya and Hrithik in the film, but of course the TV serial had almost endless openings for nok jhok, including the hamam scenes, which use d to throw my young friends into a tizzy! 😉

I am 70, and so long past such stuff.😆

Shyamala Cowsik


Originally posted by: ..KarnaKriti..

Speaking of Jodha-Akbar, it reminds me of all the hamam scenes there 😆 and we have already got two snana scenes here as well! 😉 Similarities much! 🤣 🤪

Hoping the trend will continue.


Edited by sashashyam - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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The scenes has fairy tale feel to it and our leads looked mesmerizing.
I am happy that Karna Sangini is just an adaptation and not a remake of the MB story..they are fictionalizing some portions adding a modern tinge where ever necessary and make it their own.
I am glad they are showing physical attraction too from her side rather than showing her falling for him only because of his ideologies.

PS: the gif if so beautiful..can I use it as my siggie?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

It was very good, my dear Maitreyi, but think back, as objectively as you can, to my undertaker's assistant. You just might agree with me! 😉


What is a gif? And where are Gargi's gifs?

Shyamala Aunty


Hey Shyamala Aunty , if you think it as a good scene it must be something not to be missed because you ARE one 'very hard to please' lady . 😉
Gif is an animated image , that moves like a very short video clip , very useful to look and discuss a particular scene/expression as it keeps coming back to the starting point . For example our topic maker has posted a pretty gif in start of her topic...which helps us see Uruvi's mesmerized expression again and again . 😆

As for being objective, I'm in a slightly tight corner and can not see anything objectively in this show for reasons you might understand...it's hard to see something objectively when I'm already biased...to whom...that is not a topic of conversation in this post . 😳
As for Gargi she loves photoshopping as much as I do but it's hard to say when she'll do what . She's totally unpredictable..even to the girl born with her . 😆😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo


See, now that you've mentioned this strength thing...I am thinking about how mesmerized she was by his skills and strength as a warrior. There's a surprisingly intense masculine-feminine parallel going on...You have mentioned how delicately Uruvi has been brought up. She, here, is the epitome of femininity and luxury, hence the idea of Karna thrills her. She is on the verge on becoming dangerously attracted to the raw masculinity that defines him. The wild thrill of the "other", if you will! I agree with the "less attention" point! She seems particularly irritated by Karna avoiding her eyes 😆

Yes, the masculine-feminine dynamic is definitely the first port of call. The ideologies and personality will come later.

It's refreshing to see a female lead who will be a strong character but remain utterly feminine. Tejaswi is perfect for that. I got tired of watching every other FL being depicted as a warrior princess with biceps and abs just to prove that she is "strong". Strength of character need not be depicted by a typical athletic physique as many shows are wont to do.

As for the physical attraction, well when the two haven't interacted long enough to know each other, it's only natural that this is what comes first in their relationship. Doesn't that mirror real life? We can claim initial attraction or love at first sight on the basis of look and feel rather than just a "soulmate" connection only.

And finally, on a very basic level, this is about opposites attract. She, the mehlon ki raajkumari, and he, a sootputra, on the way to becoming a "hardened warrior". They are as different as can be in terms of social status and upbringing and at this point Karn's aura is a stark contrast to the other great warrior that she knows and respects: Arjun, who has a privileged upbringing and has so far been her point of reference in terms of warrior skills and superiority as an archer on the battle field.
Edited by inlieu - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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The gemstone scene and all the elements surrounding it were indeed laden with hidden metaphors, many of which have been discussed here already.

I also saw it as the questioning or reevaluating of what a person considers precious. For Arjun it is a competition to best Karna and bring back a gemstone like the one Urvi gave him. It is precious to him because of her belief in him and because of the affection with which she gave him this present. He is eternally hopeful of winning a place in her heart, and for the male pride, what better way than to beat his now biggest rival in the race to bring her another gemstone?

For Karna, it is about making amends and being fair. He does not know of the importance of the gemstone in Urvi and Arjun's lives and the implications of it being destroyed during a competition. He has no greed or drive for acquiring wealth, nor does he think about competing for Urvi's affection. For him it is about restoring the balance in Urvi's life for damaging something that had personal value to her, even though it was an unintentional side-effect of the match, if you like. Despite his very recent rags to riches ascension to the throne of Ang, he knows of but does not care at all about the material value of the gemstone.

For Urvi, it is the trigger for her to begin to gradually question the importance of material goods and eventually her set of beliefs. She has seen luxury and experienced utmost comfort all her life. The gemstone was supposed to have been indestructible by just anybody, yet it had been, so easily. She is now curious and maybe even skeptical about the original claim regarding the stone, and has also realized that this Karna is not just anybody. I suspect there will be more incidents and scenes where her belief system will be challenged and she will be drawn even more to Karna's personality, but for now it's just sparks.

Finally, of course, on a subconscious (or conscious) level, the damaged stone and the demand for reparation gives her a good excuse to interact with Karna. 😉

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