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Posted: 6 years ago
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One more thing. When I first watched that scene, it seemed to me that Karna was praying to the sun, at least that's what I took away based on the way the rays of sunlight were falling on him.

This is something that Urvi and he have in common, as she too has been shown to have a strong, albeit playful, connection to the first rays of sunlight of the day.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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It indeed was a beautiful scene. And after reading all the analysis here I am appreciating it even more. Only after reading all your views do I see any deeper meaning to the scene but nonetheless on seeing it first time there was a big smile on my face. I am liking the show for now, hope it continues the same way.
Btw on a different note Karna here seems to have on/ off Kundalas😆. They seem to be missing when he is taking bath.
Also the gif is lovely TM.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Well, my dear, you might have picked up this angle from me, but the extended, comprehensive analysis was yours, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.


By the way, you could, if you like, call me Shyamala Aunty, as a lot of people in the IF do, for I am 70!

Shyamala Aunty


Thank you again.. But really your post did start the entire discussion so thank you for that!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ardhanarishwara

The scenes has fairy tale feel to it and our leads looked mesmerizing.

I am happy that Karna Sangini is just an adaptation and not a remake of the MB story..they are fictionalizing some portions adding a modern tinge where ever necessary and make it their own.
I am glad they are showing physical attraction too from her side rather than showing her falling for him only because of his ideologies.

PS: the gif if so beautiful..can I use it as my siggie?


I was doubtful about the adaptation of a retelling but I actually think it's a better idea than more linear and direct epic adaptations. It's become a stale genre without any scope for experimentation. Because most makers want to present things in a certain way.. I like the experimental tone of this show so far.. We will just have to see how long the positive feelings last! 😆

I am glad for the portrayal of regular human attraction as well.. it makes the love story seem more real.. and of course you can use it if you want to!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

The gemstone scene and all the elements surrounding it were indeed laden with hidden metaphors, many of which have been discussed here already.

I also saw it as the questioning or reevaluating of what a person considers precious. For Arjun it is a competition to best Karna and bring back a gemstone like the one Urvi gave him. It is precious to him because of her belief in him and because of the affection with which she gave him this present. He is eternally hopeful of winning a place in her heart, and for the male pride, what better way than to beat his now biggest rival in the race to bring her another gemstone?

For Karna, it is about making amends and being fair. He does not know of the importance of the gemstone in Urvi and Arjun's lives and the implications of it being destroyed during a competition. He has no greed or drive for acquiring wealth, nor does he think about competing for Urvi's affection. For him it is about restoring the balance in Urvi's life for damaging something that had personal value to her, even though it was an unintentional side-effect of the match, if you like. Despite his very recent rags to riches ascension to the throne of Ang, he knows of but does not care at all about the material value of the gemstone.

For Urvi, it is the trigger for her to begin to gradually question the importance of material goods and eventually her set of beliefs. She has seen luxury and experienced utmost comfort all her life. The gemstone was supposed to have been indestructible by just anybody, yet it had been, so easily. She is now curious and maybe even skeptical about the original claim regarding the stone, and has also realized that this Karna is not just anybody. I suspect there will be more incidents and scenes where her belief system will be challenged and she will be drawn even more to Karna's personality, but for now it's just sparks.

Finally, of course, on a subconscious (or conscious) level, the damaged stone and the demand for reparation gives her a good excuse to interact with Karna. 😉


This is absolutely brilliant analysis.. I don't think it's possible to add anything beyond it. I love how you have broken down the symbolism of the gemstone. Especially liked the bit where you said Uruvi realizes that Karna isn't just anybody. And this, here, is the source of her fascination.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Dear Fairy,

This may sound like quibbling, and it doesn't really affect the merits of the excellent analysis, but it is worth noting.

The gemstone was not supposed to be indestructible by just anybody. If my memory doesn't fail me, it was supposed to be indestructible even by the pancha bhutas, ie by fire, water, air, earth, or the ether. That is to say, by anything terrestrial, for there would be no earthly object that was independent of these five primal elements.

So, since Karna has been able to damage the gemstone, it means that he is superior to the pancha bhutas. That is to say , he is not just "not anybody", but he is clearly someone more than extraordinary, in fact unique.

No wonder that Uruvi is plainly besotted with him!

But I wish they would avoid Karan Johar style cliches like the kumkum from Uruvi's thali falling all over Karna, and her staring at him for a long moment and then dropping the thali, in the standard manner, with a loud clang. 😉 Also that Karna would not stare back at her looking for all the world like a dying duck (with profound apologies to his admirers here 😉)

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo


This is absolutely brilliant analysis.. I don't think it's possible to add anything beyond it. I love how you have broken down the symbolism of the gemstone. Especially liked the bit where you said Uruvi realizes that Karna isn't just anybody. And this, here, is the source of her fascination.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Shyamala Aunty - Hi This is Riti 😊, have seen your id i guess in MB forum. Loved reading your amazing analysis here😃, looking forward to more😊
Edited by riti4u - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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My dear Riti,

I am very pleased to find an old young friend, if you know what I mean, in this new forum. As for where you saw me last, it could not have been in the Mahabharata forum, for I wasn't around then, but perhaps in the Jodha Akbar or Mahakumbh forums. Not that it matters.

It is really sweet of you, my dear, to say such flattering things about my posts, but these days I am badly affected by rheumatoid arthritis, and I am barely able to manage comments. Still, with such supportive folk like you around, I shall try my best!

I am glad you are not upset by my comments about Karna in the precap!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: riti4u

@Shyamala Aunty - Hi This is Riti 😊, have seen your id i guess in MB forum. Loved reading your amazing analysis here😃, looking forward to more😊

Edited by sashashyam - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#39
Oh I see 😆 I automatically assumed the serial JA because I remembered you from the JA forum.
I used to love reading your insights then and I'm thrilled to see you doing the same here now. 😳

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My reference was to the scene between Aishwarya and Hrithik in the film, but of course the TV serial had almost endless openings for nok jhok, including the hamam scenes, which use d to throw my young friends into a tizzy! 😉


I am 70, and so long past such stuff.😆

Shyamala Cowsik

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo


This is absolutely brilliant analysis.. I don't think it's possible to add anything beyond it. I love how you have broken down the symbolism of the gemstone. Especially liked the bit where you said Uruvi realizes that Karna isn't just anybody. And this, here, is the source of her fascination.


Thank you. I'm glad you liked it. 😃

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