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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo

Yeah I know everyone is irritated by some elements tonight but this whole sequence was so charming! I love how they're showing Uruvi's attraction towards Karna! Mythos always shy away from doing this, I am genuinely enjoying this particular development!


Well, I love this PH precisely for this reason, that they are not afraid to try something new or take a different direction.

In their previous shows, the characters have always been written with many layers and interesting shades. I am curious to see if they are able to pull it off here.

Urvi, who's been brought up with so much laad pyaar, is attracted to the strength but also the ruggedness she senses in Karn.
As is human nature, the less attention she gets from him the more she will be curious to know about him.
Edited by inlieu - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#12
You gifs are very good quality 👏 ! Do make them in batches and post them in batches in the creation gallery . 😳
I'm yet to watch yesterday's epi...soo eager to see this scene .
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Posted: 6 years ago
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It was very good, my dear Maitreyi, but think back, as objectively as you can, to my undertaker's assistant. You just might agree with me! 😉

What is a gif? And where are Gargi's gifs?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: VasusenaRadheya

You gifs are very good quality 👏 ! Do make them in batches and post them in batches in the creation gallery . 😳

I'm yet to watch yesterday's epi...soo eager to see this scene .

Edited by sashashyam - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank you! I am glad you agreed with me about Uruvi's hidden motivation.

Now yours is an excellent and very detailed analysis of the scene 👏. I agree with all of it, and I specially appreciated your going back to get the exact quotes, which is essential for any proper analysis.

The whole thing reads like screenplay notes that a really good scriptwriter might have made!

Shyamala Cowsik

QUOTE=Fairy_KimBokJoo]

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, it reminded me of the scene from the film Jodhaa Akbar, where Jodhaa secretly watches Jalal"s sculpted, sinewy perfection as he is doing his sword fighting practice.


More than that, I was struck by Uruvi's unnecessary arrogance when she expresses surprise at Karn not knowing her name, as "humein sab jaante hain!". And again when she accuses him of not having the right to damage the jewel, which is nonsense.

It is an instinctively defensive reaction. She senses the attraction subconciously, and is fighting it. Otherwise, it would blcharacteristic of the normally pleasant Uruvi to be so abrupt and aggressive.

Shyamala Cowsik


Hello! This is a great observation actually! I was also a little surprised by her sudden aggression towards him. Her mental process was pretty interesting to follow. I believe it happened in three steps. First, her friends were teasing her about the damaged gemstone and Karna..she instantly found herself thinking about him...her reaction to her friends mentioning Karna's curly hair and good looks was pretty telling! She is clearly aware of the attraction on a subconscious level as you said!

Then, she starts feeling agitated and decides to go to the source of her agitation! I am sure you noticed...her reaction to Karna's doorkeepers stopping her was also especially arrogant. She says, "do din nahi hua raja bane.."...I found that very interesting! As you pointed out, she is so visibly angry at him because she is attracted to him! Her surprising bitterness is a result of this fatal attraction!

In the third step, her attraction is a tangible thing, particularly evident in the moment posted above. It was interesting to notice how affected she was when Karna said "aap?" from behind. It's like she can feel the sensations of his voice. Then, Karna simply says "parichay nahi hua" and she is instantly angry again. When she doesn't talk to him, she can fantasize and pretend but when she actually talks to him, it probably feels more real to her. So she feels disturbed and caged! There's this line in the bgm they use on Karna/Uruvi, "Tu jo khinche woh dor main". I believe this explains Uruvi's current situation best. She is being pulled towards him and she doesn't know how to stop. So she lashes out! Your explanation of the situation was ideal. This is exactly what's happening here!

The jewel, has become a bit of a metaphor I feel. There was this line in the episode, I forgot who said it, "chot jisne diya hai, wohi thik karega." I think it's safe to assume that this jewel is a symbol of something bigger. Karna damages the jewel so Uruvi wants him to fix it...or fix her. There is certainly a wound, it's the slow-developing wound in her heart.

About Jodha-Akbar, I thought exactly of that!


Edit: I have rewatched the Gemstone conversation and there are layers to this exchange. Before this scene, Uruvi's friends wonder aloud, "man ke chot ko thik karne kahan ja sakti hai?" The conversation between Karna and Uruvi about this gemstone follows right behind. Uruvi asks, "Aap ke teer ne iss ka yeh avastha kiya hai. Yeh aap phir se jod ke de sakte hai mujhe?" Karna says no, he can't. Uruvi, then, asks, "phir aap ko iss ko todne ka adhikar kisne diya?" This whole conversation is entirely metaphorical. I don't think either of them quite understand, especially not Karna...that they are actually talking about something else entirely.

Edited by sashashyam - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Here we go again! I didn't notice, but was his nether garment low waisted enough for you? No,no, humse roothna nahin, kid, I am just pulling your leg! 😆

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Carmilla

She looks mantra mugdh ☺️ n who can blame her !

Edited by sashashyam - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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i loved their meeting! loved how she was mesmerised by karn! loved how they locked eyes with each other for the first time but karn immediately lowered his eyes, i just loved this gesture of his but urvi cldn't take it so she went ahead n stood infront of him, locking her eyes with him but this time with little bit of angst in her eyes! m just loving their sizzling chemistry!
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Posted: 6 years ago
#17
I loved the first meeting...This scene was really beautiful
Loved how Karna lowered his eyes...how he called her 'Aap' and Urvi felt something in that very moment.

The whole scene was beautiful.. not OTT at all...it was simple yet beautiful plus the background music was the cherry on the top

Their chemistry was palpable...Can't wait for their love story to begin

😊


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fairy_KimBokJoo


Hello! This is a great observation actually! I was also a little surprised by her sudden aggression towards him. Her mental process was pretty interesting to follow. I believe it happened in three steps. First, her friends were teasing her about the damaged gemstone and Karna..she instantly found herself thinking about him...her reaction to her friends mentioning Karna's curly hair and good looks was pretty telling! She is clearly aware of the attraction on a subconscious level as you said!

Then, she starts feeling agitated and decides to go to the source of her agitation! I am sure you noticed...her reaction to Karna's doorkeepers stopping her was also especially arrogant. She says, "do din nahi hua raja bane.."...I found that very interesting! As you pointed out, she is so visibly angry at him because she is attracted to him! Her surprising bitterness is a result of this fatal attraction!

In the third step, her attraction is a tangible thing, particularly evident in the moment posted above. It was interesting to notice how affected she was when Karna said "aap?" from behind. It's like she can feel the sensations of his voice. Then, Karna simply says "parichay nahi hua" and she is instantly angry again. When she doesn't talk to him, she can fantasize and pretend but when she actually talks to him, it probably feels more real to her. So she feels disturbed and caged! There's this line in the bgm they use on Karna/Uruvi, "Tu jo khinche woh dor main". I believe this explains Uruvi's current situation best. She is being pulled towards him and she doesn't know how to stop. So she lashes out! Your explanation of the situation was ideal. This is exactly what's happening here!

The jewel, has become a bit of a metaphor I feel. There was this line in the episode, I forgot who said it, "chot jisne diya hai, wohi thik karega." I think it's safe to assume that this jewel is a symbol of something bigger. Karna damages the jewel so Uruvi wants him to fix it...or fix her. There is certainly a wound, it's the slow-developing wound in her heart.

About Jodha-Akbar, I thought exactly of that! 😆


Edit: I have rewatched the Gemstone conversation and there are layers to this exchange. Before this scene, Uruvi's friends wonder aloud, "man ke chot ko thik karne kahan ja sakti hai?" The conversation between Karna and Uruvi about this gemstone follows right behind. Uruvi asks, "Aap ke teer ne iss ka yeh avastha kiya hai. Yeh aap phir se jod ke de sakte hai mujhe?" Karna says no, he can't. Uruvi, then, asks, "phir aap ko iss ko todne ka adhikar kisne diya?" This whole conversation is entirely metaphorical. I don't think either of them quite understand, especially not Karna...that they are actually talking about something else entirely.


thats superb analysis.. now thinking about it , it maybe urvi's feelings.. she is affected by him and she is disturned.. its liek she is asking can you take responsibilty for my growing feelins.. can you reciprocate it.. if not why shaking m heart..
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu



Well, I love this PH precisely for this reason, that they are not afraid to try something new or take a different direction.

In their previous shows, the characters have always been written with many layers and interesting shades. I am curious to see if they are able to pull it off here.

Urvi, who's been brought up with so much laad pyaar, is attracted to the strength but also the ruggedness she senses in Karn.
As is human nature, the less attention she gets from him the more she will be curious to know about him.



See, now that you've mentioned this strength thing...I am thinking about how mesmerized she was by his skills and strength as a warrior. There's a surprisingly intense masculine-feminine parallel going on...You have mentioned how delicately Uruvi has been brought up. She, here, is the epitome of femininity and luxury, hence the idea of Karna thrills her. She is on the verge on becoming dangerously attracted to the raw masculinity that defines him. The wild thrill of the "other", if you will! I agree with the "less attention" point! She seems particularly irritated by Karna avoiding her eyes 😆
Edited by Fairy_KimBokJoo - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: VasusenaRadheya

You gifs are very good quality 👏 ! Do make them in batches and post them in batches in the creation gallery . 😳

I'm yet to watch yesterday's epi...soo eager to see this scene .


Thank you! But this is the only one that came out okayl! 😆 Vid downloading is a nightmare and I have given up hope on hotstar! Do watch the episode, it was good overall, this scene in particular!

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