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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: NalayakBrihuu



1. When arjuna was about to kill yudhistira that time krishna called arjuna adharmi fool and wicked

2. Before bhagvad gita, krishna called arjuna eunuch

3. In anugita parv, krishna began to cry because arjuna wasted his knowledge and krishna called him mean minded disloyal.

Krishna was friend of enemy of karna so even if krishna blamed karna that doesn't matter just like even dussasan called arjuna eunuch will you accept that? Krishna even called arjuna wicked soul many time. Lord shiva himself extracted evilness from body of arjuna before donating his weapon. 😃😃

Krishna also callsArjuna Puroshottama (best of men), Anagha(sinless one) etc. He also admits to Daruka that he would give up anything in the world for Arjuna and could not bear to cast his eyes on an earth bereft of Arjuna
Karna accepts all of Krishna's accusations and bows his head in shame. If Krishna was lying Karnawould''ce said so. He was not the kind of person who kept quiet while others falsely accused himc
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Posted: 6 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: NalayakBrihuu



Look who is talking her... copy malanayak karn to mahanalayak and when someone did same pandav fans began to cry. Look at yourself first then point out finger at others 😃

No krishna never lied it was pure truth

Krishna wanted to hand over draupadi to karna for sexual intercourse. Self assumptions hypothesis cant prove anything 😃😃😃


Lol. Feel free to copy anyone.

Just like Karna , you ignored the larger truth. That you attack a marginalized group with that name. Karna whined constantly about himself and his pathetic state while mocking everyone else as lower caste.

Again, no fan of Pandavas. I'm a Vyasa fan

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NalayakBrihuu

Kidnapping subhadra was an act of rape - text clearly says that arjuna kidnapped her forcefully its rape

Nishada woman - You dont have any answer pure cold blood murder

Even karna not asked sexual favour from draupadi otherwise he already had offer from krishna for sexual intercourse. Yes 4 pandavas had desired sex when arjuna brought draupadi

Selling wife at dice has no excuse, no means no otherwise sell your wife and daugher and let me see how will you justify that

Womanizer - Arjun himself desired chitragada and begged her father when arjuna was supposed to follow brahmacharya 😃😃😃

Subhadra was rape victim that poor girl had no option left so she decied to accept arjuna otherwise she was the first victim of rape


I bow down before thy wisdom of holy prophet of the greatest lord Karna. I've only wasted my time here. May you be happy with your delusions
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Posted: 6 years ago
#64
Nalayak Brihu, you do realize that Krishna clearly told Arjuna to kidnap Subhadra? It was KRISHNA'S idea, not Arjuna's. Nevertheless, I'm not going to justify Arjuna. I'm not even his fan.

Just pointing out that Krishna had a habit of pulling these tricks for the greater good.

He arranged his own sister's kidnapping. He lied to Karna.



Edited by MahanalayakKarn - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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My last contribution to this thread-
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. - Socrates" You started slandering the Pandavas you proved just this. Even if everything you say about the Pandavas is true how does that make Karna good? One man's crimes do not justify other man's crimes.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#66
You might want to read that Khandava portion again. KRISHNA was far more brutal than Arjuna. The man wanted that empire built. He was willing to do quite a lot of things to achieve his goals.
1. Arrange his own sister's kidnapping.

2. Burn down Khandava

3. Lie to Karna to make sure he lost.

Also, I don't particularly have a problem with you listing Pandava sins. List away. Like I said, I'm not their fan, either. Am a fan of the author.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: NalayakBrihuu



It means lord krishna was also criminal in khandav dahan as you says he was involved in murder of innocents along with arjun. even krishna was criminal confessed by pandava fanatics. poor people even drag krishna to hide crimes of arjhna.




Try some reading. It has been scientifically shown to improve knowledge. Then, come back and claim Krishna had no part in the killing at Khandava.


I don't want to hide Pandava crimes. Like I said, I'm a VYASA FAN.


Arjuna did kidnap Subhadra, but Krishna told him to. Arjuna did burn Khandava, but he had massive help from Krishna.


I don't have to FIND fault with Krishna. It is listed in the text for the literate ones to read. I'm only pointing out that Krishna had a habit of these tricks to ensure Pandava win.


Same goes for the offer Karna declined, but sadly, his fans cling to. Krishna lied to Karna, and then, mocked him.

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But hey, even Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, the sex trafficking terrorist, has female fans. So carry on, fans of Abu Bakr al Karna.


I'd say I'll be back. But no. When I see the kind of ignorance I see from the K fans in this thread, I might bust my gut, laughing.
Edited by MahanalayakKarn - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#68
Wow. Quite a debate going on here! The show hasn't even begun yet, but Karna Vs Arjun debates already have!
This reminds me of a young boy I knew once from Facebook pages. He was a huge fan of Mahabharata. And like most other fans of his favourite Hero, he participated in debates and discussions on Facebook and everywhere, abusing the opposing characters and their fans. He fought day in and day out, wasting away his time on social media with all his heart and soul.

What people around him didn't know is, he had some personal problems. He had gone through similar issues that his favourite Hero had gone through. So, in his Hero - or the perceived image of the Hero he had in his mind, the boy saw a reflection of his self. So, all throughout Star Plus' serial Mahabharata and Suryaputra Karn days, he fought for his Hero, because he felt that by fighting for Him, he was fighting against his own personal problems.

Around this time, he began to read KMG and BORI Critical Edition. Earlier he had fought with his opponents on Facebook with selective knowledge here and there. But now, he seriously began to read both versions. But he did not expect what was to come. And his heart broke.

He realized that his Hero was not as righteous, as heroic in KMG and BORI as he had always believed him to be, thanks to TV shows. He read KMG and re-read, and realized his Hero is worse than the other characters he had been hating all along! How could this be! He checked BORI, and same thing there as well!

But our boy here was a Sakt Launda. He would not give up on his Hero so easily. He has been worshipping him since so long with pure devotion, and spending so much time, trying to prove Him as the greatest. Now, will he accept defeat so easily? No. He ran around helplessly trying to read about his Hero from some other versions - Gita Press' Hindi version, etc. Still, same result.

What to do now? Sakt Launda was not going to give up so easily. So, he invented an ingenious method. If Vyasa' Mahabharata does not show his Hero the way he wants his Hero to be, then HE will write his own Mahabharata and re-sketch his Hero, and share that with as many people as possible. While his stupid peers were busy abusing characters on social media, Sakt Launda began to work on his plan and created accounts and pages.

With a few loyal friends by his side, he began to write down his own Mahabharata. He dismissed everyone from Vyasa to Vaisampayana to Sanjay biased and liars, and began to publish his own stories. He carefully misquoted KMG and BORI with selective passages to project the image of his Hero the way he wanted to project. He dismissed everything he didn't like as "interpolation". He began to pull down other characters to prove his Hero was the best.

He realized misquoting KMG is difficult as one can always cross-check online. So, he began to misquote from BORI's English translation by Bibek Debroy, which is not found online. So, verifying from BORI is difficult. Along with it, he posted selective screenshots from Sanskrit BORI bcoz he knew, very few would be able to read and understand Sanskrit.

In a few months, he gathered thousands of followers. Bcoz, his Hero was not his alone. He was a Hero of thousands of others who have gone through similar ordeal. Sakt Launda knew this, and played carefully along with sentiments of those who relate to Hero. He now began to create multiple accounts and circulate his own theories as "authentic Mahabharata". On multiple platforms he was banned, but still nothing could reduce his zeal to prove his Hero is the best.

After a few months, when his efforts began to show results, Sakt Launda felt a sense of an achievement. He blinded his own conscience from the truth depicted in KMG and BORI, and began to condition his mind to believe in his own false theories. He soon acquired a few puppet fangirls who hailed him as "Mahabharata expert bhaiyya". These young, naive girls have never read full KMG and BORI without any influence. So, they believed blindly what their Bhaiyya said. They saw the story through the exact prism that their Bhaiyya showed. They blindly copy-pasted the posts from their Bhaiyya's fanpages everywhere, and claimed to have read every version of Mahabharata!

That Sakt Launda was my son's friend. They had met online on one of these fanpages. I met him too, since both me and my son are Mahabharata lovers. Thankfully, my son does not mingle with him anymore. Initially, I felt bad for the kid, he was only 21 or 22. I asked my kid to help him out. The boy is only wasting his time doing all his fanboying. But after a point, I realized, troubled minds cannot be cured so easily. I guess, this is Kaliyug indeed. People no longer read Mahabharata for Mahabharata, or to feel the beauty of the master storyteller. Now, people read only to argue and win debates online.

Sorry for the long post...😭 but seeing the corrosive discussion in the few pages, I was suddenly reminded of that friend of my son's. I hope he is mentally cured now.


Edited by pd_am - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: pd_am

Wow. Quite a debate going on here! The show hasn't even begun yet, but Karna Vs Arjun debates already have!

This reminds me of a young boy I knew once from Facebook pages. He was a huge fan of Mahabharata. And like most other fans of his favourite Hero, he participated in debates and discussions on Facebook and everywhere, abusing the opposing characters and their fans. He fought day in and day out, wasting away his time on social media with all his heart and soul.

What people around him didn't know is, he had some personal problems. He had gone through similar issues that his favourite Hero had gone through. So, in his Hero - or the perceived image of the Hero he had in his mind, the boy saw a reflection of his self. So, all throughout Star Plus' serial Mahabharata and Suryaputra Karn days, he fought for his Hero, because he felt that by fighting for Him, he was fighting against his own personal problems.

Around this time, he began to read KMG and BORI Critical Edition. Earlier he had fought with his opponents on Facebook with selective knowledge here and there. But now, he seriously began to read both versions. But he did not expect what was to come. And his heart broke.

He realized that his Hero was not as righteous, as heroic in KMG and BORI as he had always believed him to be, thanks to TV shows. He read KMG and re-read, and realized his Hero is worse than the other characters he had been hating all along! How could this be! He checked BORI, and same thing there as well!

But our boy here was a Sakt Launda. He would not give up on his Hero so easily. He has been worshipping him since so long with pure devotion, and spending so much time, trying to prove Him as the greatest. Now, will he accept defeat so easily? No. He ran around helplessly trying to read about his Hero from some other versions - Gita Press' Hindi version, etc. Still, same result.

What to do now? Sakt Launda was not going to give up so easily. So, he invented an ingenious method. If Vyasa' Mahabharata does not show his Hero the way he wants his Hero to be, then HE will write his own Mahabharata and re-sketch his Hero, and share that with as many people as possible. While his stupid peers were busy abusing characters on social media, Sakt Launda began to work on his plan and created accounts and pages.

With a few loyal friends by his side, he began to write down his own Mahabharata. He dismissed everyone from Vyasa to Vaisampayana to Sanjay biased and liars, and began to publish his own stories. He carefully misquoted KMG and BORI with selective passages to project the image of his Hero the way he wanted to project. He dismissed everything he didn't like as "interpolation".

He realized misquoting KMG is difficult as one can always cross-check online. So, he began to misquote from BORI's English translation by Bibek Debroy, which is not found online. So, verifying from BORI is difficult. Along with it, he posted selective screenshots from Sanskrit BORI bcoz he knew, very few would be able to read and understand Sanskrit.

In a few months, he gathered thousands of followers. Bcoz, his Hero was not his alone. He was a Hero of thousands of others who have gone through similar ordeal. Sakt Launda knew this, and played carefully along with sentiments of those who relate to Hero. He now began to create multiple accounts and circulate his own theories as "authentic Mahabharata". On multiple platforms he was banned, but still nothing could reduce his zeal to prove his Hero is the best.

After a few months, when his efforts began to show results, Sakt Launda felt a sense of an achievement. He blinded his own conscience from the truth depicted in KMG and BORI, and began to condition his mind to believe in his own false theories. He soon acquired a few puppet fangirls who hailed him as "Mahabharata expert bhaiyya". These young, naive girls have never read full KMG and BORI without any influence. So, they believed blindly what their Bhaiyya said. They saw the story through the exact prism that their Bhaiyya showed. They blindly copy-pasted the posts from their Bhaiyya's fanpages everywhere, and claimed to have read every version of Mahabharata!

That Sakt Launda was my son's friend. They had met online on one of these fanpages. I met him too, since both me and my son are Mahabharata lovers. Thankfully, my son does not mingle with him anymore. Initially, I felt bad for the kid, he was only 21 or 22. I asked my kid to help him out. The boy is only wasting his time doing all his fanboying. But after a point, I realized, troubled minds cannot be cured so easily. I guess, this is Kaliyug indeed. People no longer read Mahabharata for Mahabharata, or to feel the beauty of the master storyteller. Now, people read only to argue and win debates online.

Sorry for the long post... 😭 but seeing the corrosive discussion in the few pages, I was suddenly reminded of that friend of my son's. I hope he is mentally cured now.





Nicely done. I hope some people take the hint and read. And perhaps, retain some ethics so they won't make up their own MBh.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#70
Btw, how is Sakt Launda now? Sudhar gaya ya jail gaya?

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