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Originally posted by: RadheyaUruvi

Hello. Plz read it again. according to debory translation, karna was trunk of passion tree and passion is good quality

Karna's involvement in bhim poisoning and varnavrat conspiracy is removed by BORI

How can you justify burning of woman and kids? If anyone kill your mother and kids to save his life will you accept that? Its simply sin commited by pandavas. atleast duryodhan tried to kill pandavas because they were enemy but those innocent nishadas did nothing to pandavs. admit that

Originally posted by: RadheyaUruvi

List of unrighteous/wrong acts committed by the Pandavas as per the Mahabharata

I have seen some pandava fans who were crying just because their idols (evil triplet) fell in the hell and Karna obtained seat along with lord vishnu. So here is the all reasons why all pandavas fell in the hell

1. When both the Pandavas and the Kauravas were children, Bhima, with his massive physical strength, grew up to be a bully, and used to torture the younger Kauravas, sometimes almost killing them in the process. This is the first of the long series of crimes committed by the Pandavas.

2. As Yudhisthira was elder than Bhima and the Kauravas, it was his duty to refrain Bhima from torturing his younger cousins. But he did nothing of this sort, and we can conclude he silently supported Bhima's misdeeds. This is the first crime of the eldest Pandava.

3. While living in Drona's school/ashrama, Arjuna, unable to excel Ekalavya in archery, and burning with jealousy, encouraged or rather we may say, compelled Drona to deprive Ekalavya of his thumb. This was the first crime of the third Pandava. And when Ekalavya had been deprived of his thumb, Arjuna felt very such satisfied. This displays he enjoyed other people's sufferings.

4. Pandavas were iligeal adopted sons of pandu whereas Duryodhana was legal heir to throne still pandava begged for kingdom without any reason

5. At the martial exhibition of Hastinapura, Bhima insulted Karna, literally comparing him to a dog, just for Karna's being from a lower-caste family. The other Pandavas silently supported Bhima, displaying their disregard for the lower-caste people.

6. When Drona sent his disciples to capture Drupada, Arjuna (and the other Pandavas) refused to accompany the Kauravas. Thus they undermined the kingdom's reputation for their own political designations. It was a clear act of treachery towards Hastinapura.

7. In the Jatugriha incident, the yudhistira supported by all pandavas plotted to burn innocent woman and five kids. Kunti mixed poison in their food. Pandavas murdered six innocent Nishadas (a Nishada woman and her five children) to fake their own death

8. During their first self-designed exile, Bhima met Hidimva and despite no fault of hers, was about to kill her. (Though later she was spared due to Yudhisthira's politically-motivated intervention)

9. After winning Draupadi at swyamvara, the other Pandavas felt lust for her despite Draupadi being won by their brother Arjuna. (According to Indian traditional values, wife of the elder brother is considered equivalent to mother and wife of the younger brother is considered equivalent to a sister. But the characterless Pandavas broke all norms and lusted for their brother's wife).

10. The five Pandavas together married Draupadi, literally dividing her like a piece of biscuit. (An ultimate disgrace towards the Indian traditions in general, and to women in particular).

11. Arjuna, while he was observing the vow of Brahmacharya, broke its all rules, married thrice and fathered three children. (The greatest 'Brahmachari' LOL)

12. Arjuna abducted Subhadra against her will, dragged and forced her to marry him. (We can say Arjuna raped Subhadra because coercing anyone to have physical relations with her/him also comes under the definition of rape).

13. Arjuna (and his partner-in-crime Krishna) burnt down the entire Khandava forest, mercilessly massacring innumerable vidhyadharas human tribes, animals and birds who had done no harm to anybody

14. The Pandavas insulted Duryodhana without any reason, when he had gone to Indraprashtha to attend the Rajasuya sacrifice

15. Yudhisthira, during the dice episode, gambled away his kingdom, his brothers and his wife just to snatch kingdom of duryodhana! (The ultimate gambler LOL). Its no one other than yudhistira who ordered draupadi to come at assembly exposing her navel just to gain public sympathy

16. Even after getting back the lost kingdom by the intervention of the kind-hearted Dhritarashtra, Yudhishthira once again gambled away his kingdom!

17. While living in the forest, Bhima used to kill hundreds of animals, who had not harmed anyone, just for entertainment.

18. Arjuna misbehaved with the disguised Shiva, thinking him to be a person of the lower-caste and abused kirata

19. The Pandavas made Indra to trick Karna into parting from his impenetrable armour and ear-rings. Pandavas were dancing after donation of karna

20. Arjuna was going to test his nuclear weapons against innocent animals

21. While living in the Matsya kingdom, Kichaka tried to rape Draupadi, and Yudhishthira, instead of protecting Draupadi, told her to 'live with it'. (Yudhisthira was ready to let Kichaka rape Draupadi for his political ambitions).

22. The Pandavas, despite being discovered during the incognito, illegally claimed the kingdom from Duryodhana. Infact all kings of aryavrat were humiliated by pandavas without any reason thats why all of them adopted the side of kauravas

23. The Pandavas, and specially Sahadeva, secretly sabotaged the peace mission of Krishna for their greed of the kingdom.

24. Before the war, Yudhisthira begged Salya to demoralize Karna, and sabotage Karna's war efforts.

25. The Pandavas never cared for their children, but used them during the great war. Arjuna ran away after using his wives for physical satisfaction

26. The Pandavas took advantage of Bhishma's affection towards them, and compelled him to reveal the method of his defeat

27. Arjuna was laughing at bhishma while attacking bhishma hiding behind woman. Bhima danced in joy when bhishma fell down

28. Arjuna overthrew Bhishma, taking cover behind one whom Bhishma considered a eunuch. (Bhishma was actually deceived by the Pandava disinformation campaign into thinking that Shikhandi was reincarnation of Amba, while this wasn't true. Shikhandi was demon not amba).

29. Arjuna killed King Bhagadatta by fraudulent means when bhagdatta lost his vision

30. Yudhisthira sacrificed Abhimanyu to save his own life on the 13th day of the war

31. Arjuna attacked weaponless and chariotless Karna from behind on the 14th day

32. Arjuna, with the assistance of Krishna, deceived Jayadratha and killed him

33. Arjuna sacrificed Ghatotkacha on the 14th night to save his own life from Karna. It's arjuna who ordered ghatotkach to kill karna with the help of satyaki

34. Pandavas plotted to murder their preceptor who trusted them more than his own son. Yudhisthira and Bhima lied to his preceptor Drona that Aswatthama had been killed, and allowed Dhrishtadyumna to kill an unarmed and unprepared Drona. Bhima again began to dance after the fall of drona

35. On the 17th day, Arjuna attacked Aswatthama from behind.

36. On the same day, Bhima brutally killed Dussasana and drank his blood just like a monster and admitted it's taste superior to milk of his mother

37. On the same day, the Pandavas killed Vrishasena by using unfair means.

38. On the same day, Arjuna killed an unarmed and chariotless Karna from behind.

39. On the last day of the war, the Pandavas killed King Salya using unfair tactics.

40. On the same day, Bhima killed Duryodhana by violating all rules of fair war just because bhima trembled with fear. Bhima even kicked the head of fallen duryodhana

41. After the war, Bhima, with silent approval of his elder brother, misbehaved with the old Dhritarashtra and Gandhari, and compelled them to leave the kingdom.

41. During the conquest of the Aswamedha sacrifice, Arjuna, due to his ego, abused and attacked his own son Vabhruvahana, and was killed by him as a result. (As you sow, so you reap tongue emoticon )

42. finally, Arjuna didn't save Krishna's wives from robbers, and fled the battlefield leaving the women at the hands of cruel robbers. (You can imagine what happened to those poor ladies)

Justice -

At last, as punishment for their lifelong misdeeds, crimes and sins the Pandavas died like beggars in the Himalayas, and experienced punishment in hell as well

Originally posted by: Mahanayak-Karna

All statements of krishna before death of karna are interpolation. It will be better if you blame krishna. Krishana even called arjuna eunuch fool mean minded. Dont follow him blindly. Krishna even offered draupadi to karna for sexual intercourse