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Posted: 6 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: Mahanayak-Karna

Do you mean that krishna was lier? LOL

Poor pandav fans used krishna statement to defame karna but when same krishna offered karna wife of arjuna then he is lier,.

No ...not at all.. BORI doesnt mentioned any crime of karna counted by krishna. Infact krishna was crying because he failed to find out crime of karna

LMAO🤣

Man! I had only heard of blind Karna fanatics now I get to see them. You are truly a specimen 👏

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Posted: 6 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
Ooh. You know what WAS removed by BORI as interpolation?
Most of Karna's digvijay.

Ooh! But BORI is sooo pro-pandava when it does things like that but not in other cases when it praises our Lord Karna🤣

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SweetRogue

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Posted: 6 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: Mahanayak-Karna

I dont find any crime of karna here. No poisoning no burning. Its yudhistra who brought draupadi to assembly. Yudhistira was defeated not fault of karna. Karna challenged pandavas is not crime. Yes see only laughing at draupadi. 😃😃

The entire effing purpose of that offer was to demoralize Karna, the only man who supported Duryodhan with all his heart. Bheeshma and Drona both were on Duryodhan's side for duty and had affection for the Pandavas, only Karna despised them. By revealing the truth of Karna's parentage Krishna effectively put Karna in a dilemma. It was an entirely strategic move. If Krishna really cared about Karna and genuinely wanted him to be king he would've revealed the truth much earlier and not on the eve of war. And if he really thought Karna would've made a great king and benefitted the society Krishna would've revealed his parentage to Yudhishtir who would've been forced to give up his crown whether he wanted it or not. Krishna was a master strategist and knew that wars are won in the mind.

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Posted: 6 years ago

#54

Here you go, straight from Krishna's mouth:

e many other people who hold that dharma is only what is in the sacred texts. I will not

contradict this, but everything is not laid down there. The words of dharma have been laid down for

the propagation of beings. Dharma is so called because it holds everything up.

599 Dharma upholds

beings. Whatever has this property of holding up is certainly dharma. There are those who wish that it

should be otherwise. For those who desire otherwise, free yourself from them, without speaking a lot.

There is no need to speak to them. If you have to speak to them, or if they are suspicious if you do not

speak to them, it is better to utter a falsehood. That will be like speaking the truth. When life is in

danger, at the time of marriage, when the entire lineage or all the riches are about to be destroyed and

at the time of amusements, it is better to utter a lie. Those who know about the true nature of dharma

do not see any adharma there. When one takes an oath to free oneself from an association with

robbers, it is better to utter a lie. That is like speaking the truth. If one can, one should never give up

one's riches to them. If one gives riches to the wicked, it is the giver that is afflicted. Therefore, a

falsehood uttered for the sake of dharma does not amount to speaking a lie. These are the signs and

indications and I have instructed you about them properly.

Krishna lied to Karna.

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Posted: 6 years ago

#55

Eh, what's happening here??

*****

Me is Megha and me is huge fan of Tejaswi and Karn (The MB character).

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Posted: 6 years ago

#56

4 speeches from Krishna

1. Udyoga Parva, where he promises Panchali all her enemies would die.

2. Udyoga Parva, where he promises Karna both empire and Panchali.

3. Karna Parva, where Krishna tells Arjuna it is dharma to lie to an enemy.

4. Karna Parva, where Krishna rips apart Karna as an ADHARMI at the time of his killing.

Speeches #1 and #2 are contradictory and cannot both be true. Speech #3 shows either #1 or #2 was a deliberate lie on Krishna's part. Speech #4 shows he was lying to Karna.

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Krishna was trying to establish a reasonably just kingdom. Pandavas were no angels, for sure. But they were the lesser of the 2 evils. Krishna could control them, mostly. Karna, OTOH, was a casteist sex-trafficker, who lied on his resume, attacked a child much younger than himself, sexually assaulted a woman and tried to turn her into a sex slave, aided and abetted the stealing of property, offered his own wives and sons as slaves so he could get the glory of defeating Arjuna.

Krishna called Karna a criminal (adharmi) at the time of his death. Nuff said.

Edited by MahanalayakKarn - 6 years ago

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Posted: 6 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: dmegha
Eh, what's happening here??

*****

Me is Megha and me is huge fan of Tejaswi and Karn (The MB character).

😆

A 'discussion' on Karna from Mahabharata. This is completely civil compared to some other 'discussions' I've read

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Posted: 6 years ago

#58

Sadly, buddy.

Krishna himself said lies to enemies are fine. I didnt have to call him a liar. He himself did that.

And his actions show clear who he lied to.

Oh, btw. The fact that you took Brihu and copycatted to call her a Nalayak shows the bigotry against trans people. Like Karna, who always whined about bigotry, and eventually, stated for all in the battle field to hear how much of a casteist bigot he was, Karna fans also claim to admire him for coming up from low positions, and yet, mock possibly the most marginalized group in all humanity. The transgenders.

Why not take the name Nalayak Arjun? Instead of mocking the LGBTQ group?

Edited by MahanalayakKarn - 6 years ago

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Posted: 6 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: Mahanayak-Karna

BORI has mentioned digvijay even better than KMG. I think you failed to quote statement of krishna from BORI. LOL.

rapist- kidnapping subhadra for rape
murderer - murder of nishad woman
prostitution - by wife herself after selling at dice
Womanizer - abandoned wives after physical satisfaction

only pandav can do it and pandav fans can do only one thing. calling krishna lier when something goes exposing pandavas 😃😃😃

Now let me address these things you've been repeating for a while-

Rapist- kidnapping Subhadra for a rape

Are you for real? Do you mean to say that Krishna, the guy who accorded 16000 women who Narkasura used as sex slaves the title of being is wives, abetted a man to rape his only sister? Arjuna did abduct Subhadra, but nowhere is it mentioned that he raped her. And the Mahabharat does not sugarcoat stuff like that. Brihaspati raped his pregnant sister-in-law Mamata(I'm not clear about the name) and that story is explicitly described in Mahabharat. The murder of Nishadas by Pandavas is mentioned. There is no reason to hide any rape of any woman by any man.

Murder of Nishadas- I've addressed this before and I'm not going to repeat myself

Prostitution- selling of wife at dice

The only one who interpreted that wager as Draupadi being a sexual slave was your Lord Karna. Even Duryodhan does not demand sexual favors from her. And why does everyone forget that Yudhishtir hadn't even thought of wagering Draupadi himself? He had already lost everything including himself when Shakuni suggests the wager and Yudi being the idiot that he was agreed. Two Pandavas protested against the wager, albiet very late. Bheena wanted to burn YufYudhishti hands while Arjuna says ''''can a man who has lost hinsehi lose someone else?"

Womanizer

Let's talk about Arjuna's wives-

Draupadi- won in Swayamvara as Veerya Shulka

Ulupi- the woman who literally threatened Arjuna with suicide if he didn't have sex with her. And he spent one night with her. I'm not sure she even counts as his wife

Chitrangada- Her father made a deal with Arjuna beforehand that any child born of the union would be Manipur's future heir. He had no choice in leaving her behind. He even goes back to her again for a while before finally leaving.

Subhadra- Arjuna desired her, Krishna gave him the idea to abduct her, he did it. There is no mention of Subhadra protesting the abduction and later she even helps him in pacifying Draupadi.

P.S. talking of abductions didn't Duryodhan abduct a Kalinga princess from her Swayamvara? And didn't tour lord Karna help him do it? So what does that make your Lord Karna huh?

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Posted: 6 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: NalayakBrihuu

I dont belive krishna lied to karna just because lord krishna truthful one himself offered draupadi to karna for sexual intercourse that doesnt mean that krishna is lier

Krishna said was universal truth because krishna knew very well that pandavas were rapist, murderer, terrorist, kidnapper and coward so he offered draupadi to karna who can protect her in order to save her from prostitution by pandavas

Wow.😆

1. Karna ordered the sex assault on Panchali.

2. Karna ordered Dusshasan to take her to the house meant for a female slaves (Re: Yuyutsu's mom, if you want proof this meant sex slavery)

3. Karna asked her to choose one master from the Kauravas to sleep with.

4. Karna offered HIS OWN wives as slaves for his glory.

5. Karna was the Abu Bakr al Baghdadi of Aryavarta. The man who profited from sex trafficking of women and children.

Krishna was no fool not to know all this. He was mocking Karna and disheartening him at the same time. The one positive aspect Karna had was intelligence. He understood contempt and sarcasm and didnt accept the offer.

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