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Posted: 9 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: shiprabiswas92

i am at fault i forget to add guys aftr u ..i meant i asked question to u all bt out of it u said why we hve to clarify so i said dat u dnt hve to clarify u hve said i hve said dats abt it neither u r clarifying nor am i


none is clarifying..all r expressing their views thats all..i really need to leave this discussion right now..sorry about that. will comment tmrw if thread is open..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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yes its a fav word cox its d fav thing people r doing dese days gone through all dis my teen days so i knw wt things people hve to listen all i cn say niti bad n good is solely depends on wht she perceives frm her life n wht she learns frm her mistakes ..people will say both good n bad bt at d end d person who is responsible fr dis will hve to think demselves cool...n i never escape a debate wanna debate bring it on
Edited by shiprabiswas92 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#73
Niti is making fool of herself ... i still love her bt dis imature behavior is making fool of herself.. i want my Niti taylor frm ky2 season 1 who is always smilling n never complain
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Posted: 9 years ago
#74
*sigh* I love the gifs here and all the quoted text from the discussions you all had in the AT while the show was on air. Purani yaadein taaza.
It hurts to see that we all have always appreciated PaNi for the work they have done and for 'PROFESSIONALISM' but still what fans get in return is a hurtful note and MaNan - the couple we all adore and love and for the sake of whom we all are still here, being called cheap!


Actors earn respect with their work but i just respect their work now not them anymore.🥱

P.S To all the people on SNS who consider themselves to be mature, who always name call fans and also get offended when others call their IDOLS with names that are not nearly offending, who come in groups just to ruin a healthy conversation please stop this nonsense, the fandom is already divided in many fragments, immaturity of some have already lost them many fans, don't make it worse!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shiprabiswas92

u knw what nwadays people hve freedom of speech so dey speak anything n everything my whole point is dat wt u guys r discussing over someone note hve u guys urself done dose things which u r moral policing hern parth anyone in dis world i beleive dat we dnt possess right to state anyone wht is right wt is wrong until or unless we r dat saint to follow n preach wt we say ...n a fan should do telll wt is wrong wt is right to a celeb bt d point jo ap keh rahe h kbhi khud bi kiya h wo sb jo dusron ko keh rahe h my mom says its easy to say wt is right n wrong bt its difficult at times to understand wt is wrong n wht is right ..telling frm my experience in dis world nwadays people loves to give advices free mai do dis do dat shouldnt hve done dis could hve done dis way n blah blah ..bt i think dat mjhe jo moral polocing kiya hve u ever done dose things in ur life i mean seriously it easy to discuss oer someone mistake n guide jb khud pe ati h to ye saari baatein hawa ho jati h

U r right,people can make mistakes... Celebrities are also human beings after all but the point always lies in learning from ur mistakes n not just repeating it again n again... Nandini was the most lovable character n niti deserved all appreciation for it n manan magical chemistry ... But her note gives a feel like -look, I did a ehsaan on u fans by doing uncomfortable scenes,which is utter disrespect to her own work... If she keeps it up n keeps lashing out at fans ,will harm her own image n career... Fans can only suggest her to change her behavior n no one is ordering her to do this or to do that, it's totally her own choice...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: noor321

Second part



To the people saying that she did this because of all the hate she had been getting, I understand and do not condone this behaviour. But the problem people are having is that she grouped every MaNan fan together so all the sane ones were grouped with the crazy ones, which in my opinion is not at all fair. I didn't watch the show when it was actually on air but I have been through the forum and the EDTs, and if anything everyone was supportive of Niti, everyone repeatedly appreciated the fact that she did such scenes and did them extremely well. Everyone said no actor would be comfortable but both PaNi did an amazing job better than many couples on tv and that was partly due to PaNi but also the amazing writing for MaNan. If you guys remember there was an interview of PaNi after one of the kisses I think, and they said about the dikhatein they had lol and everyone laughed it off and appreciated them, no one took offence to them saying it wasn't the most comfortable thing. Heck who would even think that because we all know they are surrounded by people and cameras. The most people have said is that they did a flawless job and maybe there were some real emotions lol but nothing crazy. If this comment about being uncomfortable was said in a normal interview it would be okay but the way she has stated it is not nice at all.

If this is all because she feels neglected by the MaNan fans then can someone please remind her that people loved her as nandini and were ready to kill khoya wah larka because of what he did with Manik in WH, the whole Veebha thing. They were like bring nandini back, how could they show Manik with veebha. Everyone went crazy. Yes people wanted PS back but it was because they wanted MANAN, they wanted Manik because they couldn't seen Nandini without him. Everyone wanted Manik not just PS. He was wanted because he was absolutely brilliant as Manik and there could be no other Manik.

Also back to the hate, like I said it's not right at all, and those haters need to back off but these celebs also need to understand it is part of being a star/celeb, does Salman Khan start crying every time someone posts about him being a criminal, you just have to ignore.

Also there is a way to address haters either ignore or address them directly. Did anyone see the post by Harshad Arora on his Insta (he was zain from Beintehaa - another very popular show and popular couple, show was great but got ruined) anyway but he and his new costar were being bashed because people wanted to see him back with Preetika, he felt the need to address it but also specifically addressed the haters/bashers. Now that is the way to go.

Also I always said PaNi were professional but seriously the immaturity offscreen is killing them, and it isn't good for them. People are going to find it hard to accept them with new people, but they sure as hell aren't the only ones facing this problem. I'm sure KSG had a hard time getting people to accept him with his new lead in QH. We already have mentioned Gia Manek, ever think about the girl that replaced her, I remember she had an extremely tough time as well. Same with BV. These are all GEC shows as well so have a lot more fan following so imagine the backlash. Anyone seen YRKKH, I've seen for years that people have posted that the lead pair don't get along very well in real life but look at them, they have been doing that show for 6 years and have never let their personal differences come in between NaKsh. I don't even watch that show or like it that much but credit should be given where it's due.

noor you must hv even come across the notes stuck on prev EDTs and must hv figured out it was for trolling parth for his notes and weird behavior in IVs 😆 nd the general tone of discussions was always pro niti.
And u must hv observed hw things changed gradually after s2 started. It is their SNS conduct IVs and onscreen performances that changed the perceptions. Not completely blaming her i agree the trends and offscreen politics had a great impact. But whatever it was as once previously known to us the adorable niti started seeming alien.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: diva82

@noor321, I just wanted to say hello, and that I wished you watched MaNan earlier!! I would have loved taking part in discussing with you.
MaNan is just beautiful, and you gushing about the show is making me want to rewatchthe show again from the start. Each and every MaNan scene is beautiful, especially in S1
My alltime favourite just has to be the first MaNan hug. That was just a surprise to us, how MaNik just grabbed Nandini, and Nandini...oh wow!!! How she was hestitate to embrace him, and then she finally gave in, allowing him the emotional confort he needed at the time. That was when both had to accept together that their attraction is too strong, and the first time Manik seeked comfort from someone other than FaB5!!



Hey!!!!
I would have loved to discuss it with you as well. Really wish I found out before but looks like even the cast don't want to let go of the show. When I first found out about the show I was disappointed that it ended and came to the forums to be pleasantly surprised as the forum was open lol. Got pointed to the latest EDT and had such a fun time discussing KY2 on and offscreen LMAO with so many nice people. Come join us.
Start watching it again and join the latest EDT😆 http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4533776&PID=132713789&#p132713789


Ahhh the first hug, was so special, I agree even I was shocked. The way they got addicted to each other was sweetest thing ever. It's so hard at times to choose a fav moment because they've had so many amazing moments, it's hard to keep track.

One thing I loved though was the first punch, uff that sold it for me. I fell in love with Nandini and Niti (see praising her) her voice modulation was amazing there. Then when she says Manik it wasn't the punch to the kiss but the punch to the punch. UFFF kya writing thi and I loved the way Niti did it.The way Nandini manipulates him into confessing was so well done.

The scene where Manik breaks up with her, uff felt so bad for her but also Manik. PaNi did an amazing job. When Nandini is on stage the breakdown, wow.

Also another thing I loved about the show was there were backstories, there were reasons, if the original creative head and writers didn't leave, the show stayed for 4 days and the offscreen stuff didn't happen this show could have been even more amazing. What I loved was that the established the hatred between Manik and Nyonika right from the beginning and it wasn't the typical stuff you see on tv where the mother is the step mother that's why she hates him and he hates her. His mother broke his trust and he learnt the give and take from her, the way he used that give and take throughout his life. He used that give and take and made Nandini do stuff and then again when he hurt her arms he brought it up again and asked her to do the same. Amazingly done.


Gushing moment - but the way their hands entwined together always was so perfect, he has done it in his earlier episodic and even with Alya but it has never matched up to the way him and Nandini did it. That's where PaNi come in.

Also can I just say all Holi scenes, uff don't need to say anything more. 😉😳

I can go on and on. LOL
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishaarshi

noor you must hv even come across the notes stuck on prev EDTs and must hv figured out it was for trolling parth for his notes and weird behavior in IVs 😆 nd the general tone of discussions was always pro niti.
And u must hv observed hw things changed gradually after s2 started. It is their SNS conduct IVs and onscreen performances that changed the perceptions. Not completely blaming her i agree the trends and offscreen politics had a great impact. But whatever it was as once previously known to us the adorable niti started seeming alien.


Exactly, I remember seeing posts on the forum when Parth did that insta post about attacking his friends and family. LOL these guys end up doing the same thing. How do PaNi manage to do this lol? First season Niti was in love with MaNan wanted to talk more about them but Parth's awkwardness stopped her, and then S2 Parth became open about MaNan and PaNi whereas Niti became distant. Yaar look even today Parth posted an old Manik pic. W*F is happening? 😆

I remember everyone was with Niti, they did feel certain people had the upper hand and she would always get thrown to the kerb because of that. I understand it wasn't fair to her at times but no excuses for doing the same.

I don't care who she works with it's her choice, and no one should target her for that but I will say one thing though that watch your back because his previous fav got thrown under the bus. People also probably have a problem is that initially she would say she was not treated right by the same people and now because she gets attention from there it is all good. They all need to grow up, so much immaturity it's not even funny now.
Edited by noor321 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -SaaMYa-


@noor : good to c new manan fan..so u found it on YT..see YT is such a great tool for promotions of shows..even Gia Manek stumbled upon KY2 in YT only..but MTV just removed all the vidoes from YT..very unfortunate for all fans


I can't believe they removed it from YT so unfair. Yup saw Gia's tweet after finding out about her liking the show. It just shows that this show has the power to grow but no one understands this. Akal mand hota toh iss show ka poora faida uthathay. The cast, crew and the channel missed a huge opportunity with this. 🥱
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shiprabiswas92

yes its a fav word cox its d fav thing people r doing dese days gone through all dis my teen days so i knw wt things people hve to listen all i cn say niti bad n good is solely depends on wht she perceives frm her life n wht she learns frm her mistakes ..people will say both good n bad bt at d end d person who is responsible fr dis will hve to think demselves cool...n i never escape a debate wanna debate bring it on


Hi Shipra. Thanks for posting your view. Much appreciated. I will try to summarize your comments and please don't take it as directed to you but the general perception of your question. Neither I am attacking or trying to change your views , i will just present a bit of clarity regarding my views.


You say "Moral policing" based on your teen years and I call this a "discussion" based on my experience. You see what happened there"? Two interpretations of one situation. Now you and I can fight/debate/agree/disagree based on your experiences , yet neither of us can be right or wrong. It is how we want to see. You coming here telling us to "not hate" (which we are not indulging from our POV) is also a brand of Moral Policing, from some perception.

This is a discussion forum. In the past , if you would have noticed - ALL CAST AND THEIR ISSUES were discussed. I would also suggest a trip to Bollywood forum and please go through the nature of discussions that happen there and how that is part of natural social commentary.

Niti is a human. Flawed. With every right to express her emotions, words . I stand for her FOE .While I do so , i also understand that her expressions would be met with varied reactions- good, bad , anger , love etc. Because that is the power of expression for all.

If you would have bothered reading the first thread ,you would have noticed the poster has made sure to say that Niti has full right to stand against haters. But , But here she crossed a line for some of us . We take umbrage to what she said and discussing it. Nobody is asking her to shut it , Nobody is asking her to retract- but we are expressing an opinion on her opinion.

There is a fabulous line ," Don't judge others" . But funnily everyone judges everyone and everything. If I and others are accused of judging Niti then so are the ones who have this opinion because they too are judging us.

I don't care what the sns perception is of this discussion. If anyone had followed us they would have known this is part of our discourse and there is no gender bias. For the same issues and same context, we have also commented on Parth, other co-actors and also the people associated with this show. Words like mob or crowd bashing be interesting, because on sns , the nature is such, people who agree will always cling together against those who disagree. You will be guilty of it as well, when you "like" an opinion which goes with you. That becomes a crowd on sns. So don't take that seriously.

Another word thrown around is "bully". You could go through each and every comment of this thread and let me know where the name-calling or jeering is happening. It's an opinion based discussion. And ironically the word used or thrown around be usually from a group too. You would see 4-5 people coming down on one person on twitter, who expressed their opinion here. That is confronted and bullying in my book.But each to their own. 😆


Again, I will request and welcome all counter views . This is a discussion , lets treat it like one.
Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago

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