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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: ArshiR

to be honest durin my first few epi i had the same thoughts abt Utkarsh well evn whn i had fallen for him
he only had one liners n his dialogue delivery was subtle n his postures wer quite clumsy
but eventually i made my mind that its his character only that has to be portrayed with jst
he has to conceal his thought process n all nah
well for a new entry & that too in the face of niti n prath n abhishek, cabir, charlie i think he's done a brilliant job...ALSO Dhruni are adorable to make up a pair not jst one justifies both actors need to hab a chemistry n Niti & Utkarsh together r magic 😊



His character is of less spoken person beside doesnt express his views so easily... he is doing great as being much more expressive in real life
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhruvika1991



His character is of less spoken person beside doesnt express his views so easily... he is doing great as being much more expressive in real life

yeah bein a l'il late for the shw i had difficulty to understnd nah
but u see my point right 😆 i figured it out later
he's really doin gr8 i agree 😃
talkin about him bein in REAL 😆 he scares me
seein him offscreen i was like "SHIT, how does dis guy evr carry out his character with ease 😆
he's always jumping around bein a prankster he's funny n here in the shw he's somthng totally different

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Posted: 10 years ago
#63

Well he scares you how???


You do know about him more... Huh...

I guessed his his nature seeing a little bit of naughty and prankster by hus face.

Originally posted by: ArshiR

yeah bein a l'il late for the shw i had difficulty to understnd nah
but u see my point right 😆 i figured it out later
he's really doin gr8 i agree 😃
talkin about him bein in REAL 😆 he scares me
seein him offscreen i was like "SHIT, how does dis guy evr carry out his character with ease 😆
he's always jumping around bein a prankster he's funny n here in the shw he's somthng totally different

Edited by dhruvika1991 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhruvika1991


Well he scares you how???


You do know about him more... Huh...

I guessed his his nature seeing a little bit of naughty and prankster by hus face.

well m more of a reserved, shy prsn 😆
Utkarsh as u can see is such crazily active guy so he scares me with his performance 😆
Yeah he's naughty and a prankster but he's more the adorable too 😳


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: gujjupari

Compared to your actual controversial posts, this is nothing

Personally, I dont know who to "ship"... the CVs have given off a whole load of confused messages. While on one hand we have quite a clichd relationship with MaNan, the other hand we have quite a cute and adorable pair in DhruNi... tbh, I have watched a fair share of Indian TV shows (unfortunately) and the mass audience always (ALWAYS) goes for the pairing that is a little urm spicy?

I can't really think of a OTP that has had a sweet cute beginning till the end. There has always been a love-hate concept that is introduced for the TRP game. Sometimes I wonder whether or not, audiences find some kind of charm in such couples? Idk, because it doesn't happen in real life... side track there but personally I'd take any scenes with Mukti in em. I know thats not the point of this thread, but knowing Indian CVs and their tendencies to opt for "tried and tested" formulas, I'd take any scenes that have friendship in them over love.

And this is not controversial at all (I have seen controversial posts from you 😆) and if people can't take opinions, well then poo



Who are you? How are you? Meri Mitr! :P I thought you never visited I-F!
Beta I have exam tomorrow, that too chemistry and you want me to rant here? Beta I am an extremely sweet and innocent baccha who doesn't even know what controversies mean! I never made any such posts ever.
Okay! Enough of my mellow drama...Will reply to what you said when I reply others! Abhi I have lot to study! *Sighs* I thought you went AWOL! Now mind telling me whom my Amma is shipping? or is that a secret too? And yeah...are you even watching KYY ( i am not...most of the time! Skipping parts here and there)
Tere ek line ke jawab mein kya kya likh daala is naacheez ne! Anyway if you aren't watching this then go watch Udaan! It is based on Child labor that rips your heart apart!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: YuVirat

<font size="3" color="#ff0000">For all I know, I haven't put so much thought into something, before falling in love with it, and why should I?</font>

<font size="3">I fell in love with Manan, because of the kind of chemistry that the characters shared. Iliterallyget pre-Manan-jitters.</font><font size="3">I see them together and they make sense.That's all. I love them not for thousand reasons, but becausewhen they come together they make mebelievein the story that they are telling.</font>

<font size="3">With Dhruni I feel like they are trying, as actors but it doesn't come naturally to them.The execution of Dhruni scenes aren't 100%, especially Utkarsh, the actor needs to improve hisdialoguedelivery to make Dhruni believable. (Nooffenceto Utkarsh fans, i know he is new to the acting business and still is learning)</font>



Sorry I disagree with u. Utkarsh is playing his character perfectly. He behaves that way because that is how his character is. Dhruv is shy and introvert.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hmmm... Ohk... Yeah he is adorable... I agree on this...




Originally posted by: ArshiR

well m more of a reserved, shy prsn 😆
Utkarsh as u can see is such crazily active guy so he scares me with his performance 😆
Yeah he's naughty and a prankster but he's more the adorable too 😳


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Posted: 10 years ago
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And for me it's MaNan. Just because they share love-hate relationship and we have seen that in many shows, doesn't mean that MaNan is same like other stories. And about DhruNi, actually I don't feel anything for them. Because I couldn't see any such expression from Nandini. She just treats him like good friend.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostmymusic.



Saif andaaz-e-bayaan rang badal deta hai
Warna dunya mein koi baat nayi nahin.

This is the couplet which my literature teacher said in our class. It's quite simple Urdu but for those who can't understand, the gist of it is that it's the way you say something which changes the feel of it else nothing in this word is unsaid. That's the basic jhol with any and all literature. All the topics in all kinds of media and literature have been explored before and are being explored. It's the way one explores them which leaves a mark.

On that very literature note, I'll come on topic. I doubt that Indian telly is hardly the place to go looking for originality. Yes, nothing about Manik is original. He's a basic amalgamation of so many angsty/misunderstood/dominating male protagonists. Again, nothing is original in MaNan as well. They are typically the same hatred-to-love couple. But similarly, I also find nothing original in Dhruv or DhruNi. I see them and I get flashes of so many kdramas that I've watched which have these kind of second heroes who share such wonderful moments with the girl but never end up with her. It took me many dramas and heartbreaks to realize that despite the second guy being the better choice for the girl, in context she is not the one who completes her. You can't control your heart. And the heart wants what the heart wants.


I am not being offensive but just putting a point. It's all about treatment. Whereas I hated the hordes of ASRs and MSKs and the Randhirs, I don't hate Manik. And frankly, it's wrong to compare those kind of heroes to Manik. They belong to different leagues. Similarly, it's utterly WRONG to compare Manik to Tsukasa ( or Jun Pyo..whatever his korean name was..) In HYD, the basic turning point for Tsukasa was the kick which Tsukushi landed on him. Punch in KY2. That kick reminded him of his sister, the only person from home who loved and adored him, didn't let his moods control her and basically did as she pleased. But in KY2, the whole plot fundamentally deviates from HYD. KY2 at this moment is not inspired from HYD. It was till the punch, uske baad all they've written is for this show only. The originality of the writing isn't the issue here, original dhundne niklen ge tou we can hardly count original shows on our fingertips. It's the treatment which counts.

I am not demeaning your bias, no. Everyone has the right to watch the show for their own reasons and interests. But this accusation of Manik or MaNan being unoriginal and Dhruv/DhruNi being themost original thing bothers me. DhruNi and Dhruv are no more original than Manik or MaNan. I haven't seen 100 Days but didn't the CVs wrap the track with one incident and didn't drag it for 100 Days? I doubt the movie had a scene where the guy went, "Sorry girl, you be having troubles in your real life and I can feel that. So imma set you free." So yeah, inspiration for that track - unoriginal. Ending of it - very original. Every show nowadays is an inspiration of something or the other, every character is an inspiration and amalgamation of two-three different characters. It's the treatment which makes different.

Manik is the not the Indian Tsukasa/Jun Pyo. He's just Manik. If he's Tsukasa, then Dhruv is to be Rui and Rui was drastically different than Dhruv. So was Tsukasa and Rui's relationship. You can't just take one character from HYD and start comparing it with its supposed counterpart from KY2. All characters and relationships should be given the same treatment. Nothing other than the initial set up of the episodes is similar between HYD and KY2.

As for Ekta Kapoor concept, I strikingly remember that even Tsukasa and Tsukushi were locked in a lift for a night. That was a HUGE moment for them as a couple and played an extremely important role in the future of theirs. And HYD's story is much older than Ekta Kapoor's show. So, yeah..once again, not original but the treatment which matters.




These things which one terms unoriginal are actually "tropes". Tropes aren't cliches but they are the basic go-to plot devices in any form of media/literature. So many shows, despite being vastly different than in genre, share many tropes.

Rude Guy with Heart of Gold - Trope.
Sweet Girl with Nasty Temper - Trope.
Supportive Guy BestFriend - Trope.
Heck, even this:
Tall Guy, Short Girl - Trope.

Any show, when stripped down, basically come down to tropes. It's how one uses these tropes which determines the quality of anything.

I apologize if I went way off tangent here...there were so many thoughts in my mind and gathering them wasn't easy.



"Boys hurt the one whom they love and Girl love the one they hurt"
I believe in that one phrase that be it what, after dire fights Manik and Nandini will be ending up together and nor do I want to oppose it. All I want to say is DhruNi was much more than what the CVs are slowly trying to make it. I agree that there is nothing original in Dhruv's character when compared to kdramas but this is India and not every viewer has watched Korean dramas, not every viewer has seen guy so supportive and different. Yes he is different in his own ways. This is the first sugary and decent character who is too sweet to digest whom I am pretty much liking or else I get irritated by such guys to infinity, be it dramas of any country. Then surely there has to be something different in this guy, which works like a magnet. As mentioned already, I don't want DhruNi to be committed any which way and even if they are shown to be a relationship (That can never be the case now as she seems to be already Manik Pujari) then it should end smoothly by her realizing that she needs madness more in life. All I ask is what is the need of making DhruNi look like a burden when they can be shown often with much more added to their storyline. I have followed many shows so far, Japanese, Korean, Argentine, Pakistani, American and finally Indian. Here the shows are hugely repetitive. | agree to an extent that he is not like Randhir or ASR and personally I never liked such screwed characters with a bad past except Goo Jun Pyo! It has always been their acting that I have appreciated them for. I never understand the need of showing extreme characters, be it sweet or messed up character! Characters can be build along the lines of passion and reality. Anyway that is not the point here. For me Dhruv Nandini story could be taken to another level without that Friendship. Indeed their story had SO much from the past of Dhruv when he acts like a beast and she exploring and getting him back to his ownself, but I am expecting way TOO much from Indian show makers (I am not trying to mock anyone, just putting the reality into words) I never said MaNan is hated by me. And as mentioned, he doesn't seem original in the back drop of Indian Television, just the way you find many Dhruv-like second leads in . One more thing, I never really said DhruNi to be MOST Original. But I definitely said that they seem much more original that MaNan even if Manik is quiet different from all ASRs MSKs, kepinh only Indian dramas. Oh Well I have accepted that the BOF concept isn't here and it is good in a way that the CVs realized the need of keeping things original for sometime or else we would have compared both the shows all the time and end up getting disappointed as the original always stands out. I ca't even discuss Balaji! They have some couples with utmost potential but the similarity in story kills it. Be it life scene or one night in a room scene. And yes, BOF did have a lift scene but nothing happened in that lift! They weren't even shown there properly. Oh well, I will say something in your words after reading the Tropes...It is the treatment that matters, and they gotta keep originality in that at least! I personally love Kdramas in spite of having similar storylines and already explored story lines because of the way new scenes are executed and thought about. I really won't call myself bias if for a while I say MaNan is not favored by me over DhruNi as it is just an opinion and nor would I say I am going to love DhruNi forever as I know even a single track which seems new to me will just strike the right chord and I have been waiting for that but instead all I get is least of the duo who still have some originality (I am comparing this show with other Indian hows not any other country, AT ALL)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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jst wanna say

🤗i love you...absolutely brilliant post

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