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Posted: 5 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

@ Bold, Even if you are a muslim her comments do not make it personal. It can be hurtful but not personal. Like calling India Lynchistan does not make it personal for every Indian. My point please try to keep every conversation civil.

No no case can be filed against her for the statement she made in India. Her statement was merely an opinion based on half baked information again imparted by a very partial and agenda driven media.

It does makes it personal and yess cases can be filed for such statements leading to a 3 year imprisonmen!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/gMB5yPfAYjsLKWQBA

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AGF8qt3svXJqfWxa9

Pls check the links given above! U will know what can this one statement lead to! Both my grandparemts are lawyers and i did not cooked up that case wali line it is a fact!

Also whaat she said was not an opinion it was a pure speech of hatered and violates not only the if rules but also the fundamental rights of every muslim!

Do u know that woman!? Have u ever read her statements or talked with her!?


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Posted: 5 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Shanayass

hi

I have argued about 100s of times with her without loosing my cool!

But pls look at what she said just now!

Commenting on the show..on actors and all was still ok but targeting a particular religion!?

I am not a muslim but why should i hear a word about them!? I have friends from that religion and what she said is NOT acceptable! Looking at those comments i don't evdn feel sry for what i said!

No you should not hear anything against muslims or for that matter any religion or ethnicity. I admire your spirit and the desire to do the right thing. All I was trying to say is when we loose cool we make mistakes especially in an argument. A calculated response is always better than an uncalculated reaction. Don't you think?

I did not request you to keep calm because I wanted to make you feel sorry. I do realize that you felt ambushed.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

No you should not hear anything against muslims or for that matter any religion or ethnicity. I admire your spirit and the desire to do the right thing. All I was trying to say is when we loose cool we make mistakes especially in an argument. A calculated response is always better than an uncalculated reaction. Don't you think?

I did not request you to keep calm because I wanted to make you feel sorry. I do realize that you felt ambushed.

i respect the fact that u respect my pov but see i am not a knid of a person who looses cool very easily ..not even in real life!

I have argued 1000s of times with her and people who know me or have interacted with me in the forum knows that neither i have been rude nor disrespecting to anyone or anything even if i disagree but there is a limit to cheapness! Yess i still don't feel sry because what she said was much much bigger than what i said! And knowing her i know she would be back with the same non sense again!

If it would have been anyone else or even if it was a comment made by me on some other argument she posted(related to show orr smth)..i would have sutely apologised!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanayass

It does makes it personal and yess cases can be filed for such statements leading to a 3 year imprisonmen!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/gMB5yPfAYjsLKWQBA

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AGF8qt3svXJqfWxa9

Pls check the links given above! U will know what can this one statement lead to! Both my grandparemts are lawyers and i did not cooked up that case wali line it is a fact!

Also whaat she said was not an opinion it was a pure speech of hatered and violates not only the if rules but also the fundamental rights of every muslim!

Do u know that woman!? Have u ever read her statements or talked with her!?


I knew about the provisions that you just pointed me to yet for a statement to constitute as hate speech it needs a lot more than just putting forth a view in the way she had done. She actually did not try to incite any one with her words she merely questioned readers opinion about a fact that she thought was right. Imagine if speeches could be so easily categorised as hate speech nearly half of the country would be behind bars. She did not criticize Islam or tenets of Islam she only pointed out her view about a specific community. Show this statement to your grandparents and ask if this would amount to hate speech.

I do not know that woman or you either. I have read her statements and rebutted them always for in my opinion her statements are based on half baked info.

I am a practicing lawyer, I know what I am saying.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanayass

i respect the fact that u respect my pov but see i am not a knid of a person who looses cool very easily ..not even in real life!

I have argued 1000s of times with her and people who know me or have interacted with me in the forum knows that neither i have been rude nor disrespecting to anyone or anything even if i disagree but there is a limit to cheapness! Yess i still don't feel sry because what she said was much much bigger than what i said! And knowing her i know she would be back with the same non sense again!

If it would have been anyone else or even if it was a comment made by me on some other argument she posted(related to show orr smth)..i would have sutely apologised!

You dont need to apologize my dear. Nor am I saying that you have misbehaved all I am saying is you can put forth a more sorted and accurate response if you keep cool. Just a practical tip that is it. I am not blaming you for anything I do understand you felt ambushed.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

@ Bold no not atall and no not all muslims are terrorists and an entire community connot be stripped of its basic human rights because of the wrong of others. Like every German cannot be called a Nazi, like every Christian or white American does not belongs to KKK or Confederate Army, like not every hindu is guilty of lynching every muslim is not a terrorist. What ever is happening in the places you mentioned here is sad, agonizing and inhuman. They should be criticized with as much vehemence as possible and measure should be taken by the internationa community to address and redress them.

@ bold Red London Bridge attack last week was carried out by a muslim Usman Khan who was a convict charged of terror plotting and was under rehab and was on probation.


Equating Varuni to Hitler was quite out of the mark. I am very sure she has not established organised machinary to wreck havoc on a specific community. This accusation was way out of methaphorical league also.


Sorry maybe we have totally different opinions about someone so it's better if we agree to disagree. I have stated that her thought processes and the way she looks at a certain community matches that of the named individual and sorry but I do not take it back. Maybe she hasn't organised machinary but her language is such that it indicates similar mentality. Saying that the entire community is bad because of the deeds of others was way out of the line too and it was not an accusation it was my belief. The way she showed her hatred, sorry to say but it was much bigger than what I said.


Thank you for correcting the fact about the London Bridge attack and also for stating the names of the non Muslim organisation to correct the a false claim.

Edited by ramisaaAli - 5 years ago

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