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Posted: 9 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Donjas

Lack of creativity over sustained periods of time is a common human problem and JA suffered because it it.


But then that is not surprising, the lack of creativity can be seen everywhere,even here on this thread, this was supposed to be an intelligent discussion of a couple of episodes, instead it has devolved to a kitty party meeting and ad nauseum talk of what went wrong with the serial. Nothing new there, not a single argument here that I have not already read a million times over the past one year.

But that is the thing about creativity. It's singularly lacking in everyone.


You could never say about the threads the first time around Donjas. They were creative and effervescent. What do you hope to discuss in a rerun, except for something we might have missed the first time and how better it could have been.

But JA creatives lost their way the first time round itself. It was not lack of creativity but the staple heroine mahanta of EK Soaps that was a glaring misfit in the story of Akbar the Great.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


You could never say about the threads the first time around Donjas. They were creative and effervescent. What do you hope to discuss in a rerun, except for something we might have missed the first time and how better it could have been.

But JA creatives lost their way the first time round itself. It was not lack of creativity but the staple heroine mahanta of EK Soaps that was a glaring misfit in the story of Akbar the Great.


Agreed, JA creatives after the axing of 70 members of the original staff because of Sant Ram's antics were the most uncreative bunch of folks. I remember, we even made suggestions on this forum, great ideas all, and emailed it to them but they were too stupid to follow up on it.

I am not complaining on the whole , creativity is a very rare thing in humans. We like to follow others. I am just pointing out that the lack of creativity manifests itself everywhere. I too, because I am foolish enough to write about it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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ABOUT THE FEELING OF A LACK OF CREATIVITY ON MY THREADS

My dear Donjas (and all my other friends here),

This sense of there not being any 'creative" discussion on this thread seems to me a bit misplaced.

I wrote this post about 3 episodes of Jodha Akbar. A number of readers commented on all three and I have responded individually to all of them. You commented on one episode only, the first one, and while I felt your defence of Jodha there was spirited, and said so in my response to it, I agreed with some of your points and did not agree with the rest, and said so. I have not yet seen your comments on the other two episodes, especially the third one, over which I took a lot of trouble, so I have not been able to respond to them.

That does it as far as the comments and my responses goes. I cannot respond to comments that are not sent in. So now, the discussions on this thread can be about anything else in the serial that interests me or the others. Whence the discussions on whether Jodha Akbar was an epic love story.

There have been such off-the-immediate-topic discussions always, on my threads and those of others, in 2013/4 and now. Why, I once got a 20% increase in my warning level for posting a long historical response to you on the siege of Chittor on a thread that had nothing to do with that track. The increase in the WL was for posting that on a thread other than the non-designated one. The funniest thing about that was that you never got around to reading that response for over 2 months, till I PMed you about it!😉

And as for the kitty party that upset you so much, I agree that those posts were meant for PMs, but it was only 5/6 messages in all and then it stopped. My threads in 2013 used to be reduced, overnight, to a cat's cradle of 12-15 pages of jokes about the show by the Chipmunk Gang, Alakh, Sandhya, Tripti, and many others. I could hardly locate the comments to which I had to respond! But I do not mind if young people have some harmless fun.

You also have to take into account that everything we are discussing is a rehashing of old stuff, and that there is not much new that I or anyone can find to say about it . I cannot do natakiya rupantar the way the CVs do it.

Plus the sense of expectation is all gone, and that drastically reduces the level of interest. I used to get 80-90 likes for any post of mine, now I barely get 30 likes if I am lucky! 😉

That is why I was very reluctant to start this series at all. It takes quite some effort, and now my hands, after the stopping of the steroid pills, are beginning to ache again. So, any time the number of Likes falls to 20, or my hands get to be as bad as they were in mid-October, I shall quit. Then there will be nothing about my threads to upset anyone!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Donjas

Lack of creativity over sustained periods of time is a common human problem and JA suffered because it it.


But then that is not surprising, the lack of creativity can be seen everywhere,even here on this thread, this was supposed to be an intelligent discussion of a couple of episodes, instead it has devolved to a kitty party meeting and ad nauseum talk of what went wrong with the serial. Nothing new there, not a single argument here that I have not already read a million times over the past one year.

But that is the thing about creativity. It's singularly lacking in everyone.

Edited by sashashyam - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#94
Aunty,
I hope you didn't forget about the quiz? I am waiting for the results...😃
And, the prize distribution as well...😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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But there has always been one aspect where I have never found lack of creativity in, on the JA forum...& that has been "outright rude comments" 😆
Not then, not now...👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

But there has always been one aspect where I have never found lack of creativity in, on the JA forum...& that has been "outright rude comments" 😆

Not then, not now...👏



I agree word for word Khushi👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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aunty that running away from husband stayed till end,poor jalal he forgot in his love for hes begumsa that he had more wives now that is epic love,now taht is real majnugiri, 😳😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello Shyamala, I am sorry It took me so long to respond to your post and your question posted to me in your previous thread.

First of all, I finally figured out who Mohini and Mohan were😆. had totally forgottentthe nickname given to these most favored " Jeev Jantus"

Episode 79: Unexpected depths

Okay okay I have to admit I was one of those forum wasis who absolutely loved the L'affaire Mohini- Truth is Shyamala, I am a hopeless romantic and a sucker for scenes like this especially when Jalal was so brilliant in it. I do not tend to analyse every scene in such detail as you do. If it is as visually pleasing as this scene was then its a winner for me.

" Bizarre obsession" " Conjugal Rights" and "A Freudian explanation": I am going to skip these sections as I believe we have discussed this at length in your " akhada"😉

Episode 80: The turning of the tide

The mannat: The Mazhar scene was magnificent and very very peaceful. I have always loved their scenes at the Dargah. Besides I am very partial to Jalal's look in this style of Pagdi. Jalal looks so very handsome here😳


The Removal of his ammunition: Jodha! Jodha! , Jodha! Will your follies never cease😡 😡


Episode 82: The darkness descends: This section of yours took me by surprise. I was so furious with Jodha when watching this last year, that I did not look at her desperate attempts to rescue Jalal with much sympathy. A very sensitively and beautifully written take on Jodha ...and I must admit a refreshing change 😉.

I did not care much for the slapping spree that Ruks subjected her to but then am not surprised either. I do however laud Jodha's honesty whether it is because of being an " innocent abroad" or any other reason.


Your section on "Tiger, tiger, burning bright" , "Other lunch options for Mohan" and "Sound advice for Jalal" were absolutely hilarious 🤣.

" Epic Love Story" : Now to the specific question you asked me about your comments to Saraswathi Aunty/Akka...well I am as disappointed as you are about how this " epic love" eventually turned out. In fact I was so deeply affected that unlike you I abandoned the show much earlier. I agree with much of what you have said Shyamala and I truly felt your angst when you wrote to Saraswathi Aunty/Akka. You truly have a gift for words as well as a very sensitive outlook👏

HOWEVER with all due respect, I think there were 2 Major issues/ events which completely diluted this love story that you have completely missed. They promise to be very contentious and are perhaps best left alone so that your post does not descend into another " akhada".😊 I will however say that while reading the comments from your friends here about Jodhas numerous crimes ( I fully agree her crimes were indeed many) ...the final death Knell to this " epic love story" came from Jalal and not Jodha.

I better stop now Shyamala or should I say " Jump of the treadmill" as you so cleverly put it 😃

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

But there has always been one aspect where I have never found lack of creativity in, on the JA forum...& that has been "outright rude comments" 😆

Not then, not now...👏

He he he
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, Devki, your take on this subject is very different from mine,as you can see from my comments below, which are not made in a contrarian spirit, and are mostly factual.

It never jelled with me, this love story, and I deeply resented the way in which Akbar the Great was reduced to a hanger on of Jodha Begum, singing her praises with or without justification, and seeming to have no ideas that are not suggested by her. Why, by the end, his government seems to be on autopilot, while he is loitering in Jodha Begum's hoojra, pressing her head and her feet.

To my mind, the romance was a totally one-sided affair, with Jalal doing all the loving and Jodha simply being loved. That is not my idea of an epic love story, especially as the Rhett Butler I had signed on for was steadily eviscerated and ended up more wimpish than Ashley Wilkes!

But to each her own. There is, it seems, simply no meeting ground at all between us.I leave you to your happiness in this show, and you can leave me to my acute disappointment.

Shyamala Aunty

AKKA AKKA AKKA - How do I give you a standing ovation for 5 minutes non-stop 😆 ?!!!! That icon does not appear in my list.
So, here goes ...
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