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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalgi22

Wow Abhay!!!👏👏👏

It's just a splendid post and very informative. Hats off to your hard-work. Thank you so much for educating us with wonderful piece of information.



@bold: completely agree...Abhay really really appreciate it. You do all the hard work and put it in a interesting format for all of us to read. Thank you for sharing it with us...Thanks to you and Radhika..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Abhay
Updated my post on page 1. Here is the link: 😊


Thank you :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Updated my post on page 1. Here is the link: 😊


Thank you :)


Standing ovation dear Radhika 👏! outstanding, sensitive and very perceptive take on the ideal Heer Kunwari / akbar relationship.

BTW: who is Phool Kunwar? was she another Rajput wife of Akbar that he wanted to marry after Jodha?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Coolpree


Standing ovation dear Radhika 👏! outstanding, sensitive and very perceptive take on the ideal Heer Kunwari / akbar relationship.

BTW: who is Phool Kunwar? was she another Rajput wife of Akbar that he wanted to marry after Jodha?


thanks Preeti :)

Historically, Phool Kunwar was Maharana Pratap's wife. In the show on Sony, it is being shown that Akbar was madly in love with her since childhood and tries to marry her but Pratap snatches her away just in time from the wedding mandap and later marries her. A scene was shown where Phool questions how Heer could sell herself to the Mughals and if she had no self-respect. Heer's reply was both emotional and eloquent. :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

abhay

Will post my comments soon :) a most appropriate time to share this post - thanks :)

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Abhay

Sorry for the inordinate delay :) You know how little i come here nowadays :)

Coming to this post:

I already commented about your beautiful posts related to the marriage of Akbar and HK earlier. I cannot think of anything to add to my views. :)

What i do want to say is that i am watching the show on Sony which has introduced the character of HK sometime back. Now that actor pair portraying Akbar-HK may not be as popular or enchanting as Rajat and Pari. And obviously, the show does not revolve around them. Yet, in the little space that HK gets, she has managed to convey her thoughts, emotions and views quite clearly in her interactions with Akbar, Salima Begum and Phool Kunwar. There is none of the ghrina or a sparring on an equal footing with Akbar - he is very much the Shahenshah and she very much a traditional wife who does not confront her husband. Yet she puts her point across whenever she gets half a chance and, yes, Akbar does encourage her to voice her views in a subtle manner, suggesting gently that it is her right, nay duty to "give the right advice" to her husband.

The way HK is against the alliance but gradually slips into the marriage and starts liking the hidden from the world, better side of her husband, and is pained when he decides to marry again, it's all brought out so beautifully.

There is none of Ruq's schemes but the jeers and taunts of Salima Begum (this portrayal pains me though - what has she been reduced to!) are rebuffed quietly with dignity and grace. I love this. This HK is not someone who goes all out with blazing guns but she is no doormat either. She is quite close to how the real HK may have been - purely my conjecture, of course. :)

HK's sympathetic attitude to the cause of Rajputana is perceptible and understandable. In her own way, she discourages Akbar from trying to conquer Rajputana without appearing to be an overt Rajput sympathiser.

Her convo with Phool wherein she expresses her anguish at having to marry the enemy, the compromise she had made with her fate when she had no other choice, her feeling of satisfaction that at least she had somehow saved her family and Amer even though she may be branded a coward for marrying a Mughal, was poignant and brought to the fore the many battles HK was fighting internally every day while trying to be the dutiful wife outwardly. The budding feelings of tenderness and love for her husband only seem to be adding to her misery. And yet, like a typical wife, she was heartbroken when Akbar declared his love for Phool and his intention to marry her. The nuances of a polygamous marriage are brought out beautifully there and i can actually feel what HK must have gone thru in accepting and then loving Akbar and then having to put up with his other alliances.

Some things have been shown in JA well. But some things have not been shown as well or not shown at all. i am only talking about the marriage shown between Akbar and Jodha here. Not other historical / fictional tracks. In the initial few months, Jodha was shown as a haughty princess who doesn't want to give her husband half a decent chance to get to even know her or be friendly with her. I don't know how far this could have been true, considering the protocols those days and how a woman was expected to remain subservient to her husband, esp if it had been a political alliance. True, HK was an equal partner to Akbar but that was LATER. Not from day 1.

Still, all this is acceptable. What is missing however is that we hardly ever got to peep into the heart and mind of HK and why she was behaving a certain way or how she felt about her husband and her new life. What was also missed was how HK adapted to the later wives of Akbar, after she had fallen for him. May women were shown in his life, but they were all fictional vamps who duly left Akbar HK in peace.

Sorry for rambling on. I don't know if i have been able to express what i have in mind. I feel that there was a lot of dramatic stuff shown while the subtler nuances of the trials and tribulations of the marriage were missed. Which is a pity because the show centres around these 2 people and i would have loved to see in detail how the 2 came together and stayed together despite all other wives and socio- political turmoil.

Sorry if i have hurt your or other readers' sentiment s with my views here. i know how much AkDha / Rajat Paridhi are loved and i love them too. I just wish we had a better script.

thank you for giving me the opportunity to voice my random thoughts , Abhay :)


Hi Radhika,😊

Thank you for sharing excellent views in an honest direct manner. Good to read your thoughts after a long time.


There were several facets of the relationship between Akbar and Jodha that could been explored, without giving their characters a larger than life feel. The realities of a polygamous setup from the hindu queen's point of view were seldom touched upon. Only BEK's insecurities and tantrums were highlighted, that too, in a cinematic manner. Somewhere down the line the focus on the growth of the relationship between the Shehenshah and his hindu queen was completely lost.

Despite all the odds that she would have faced in the Imperial harem, the real hindu wife of Jalalludin Mohammad does deserve praise and respect for creating an identity of her own, maintaining her dignity and self worth, in order to be held in high esteem in the Mughal court /family and to be remembered centuries later. It was certainly not an easy feat for a lady from the 16th Century.
Edited by Charu.S - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi Charu. It's been a long time since u posted something .
Missed your wonderful reviews. I agree with your thoughts above completely.
Edited by Coolpree - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Coolpree

Hi Charu. It's been a long time since u posted something .
Missed your wonderful reviews. I agree with your thoughts above completely.


Hi Preeti,😊

Thank you.

Yeah, haven't been active on IF like before. My hip and knee joints have been misbehaving and I'm dealing with them in the best way possible. The discomfort drives me nuts periodically. However, I'm gradually recovering now.

I have been watching older episodes, in no particular order and some of them are so good that its hard to believe that such a beautiful subject, saw an untimely end, thanks to a dismal plot and complete lack of historical appeal, post the leap.

There is one irritating and annoying aspect that blatantly stands out. Right from the time of Jalal's birthday celebrations after his marriage with Jodha, when Rukaiyya's first jealous/insecure/brattish outburst began, till the end of the serial, the plot solely progressed with its focus on BEK's insecurities and atrocities, in one form or the other.

As much as I love Jodha and Jalal, I wish we were shown the more realistic side of their characters befitting the circumstances of their union, their innate personalities that were as different as chalk and cheese and how both the pluses and minuses of their persona rubbed off each other. Watching their relationship grow, despite all odds, and the manner in which they left an indelible mark in history, would have been an absolute treat.



Edited by Charu.S - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Charu.S


Hi Preeti,😊

Thank you.

Yeah, haven't been active on IF like before. My hip and knee joints have been misbehaving and I'm dealing with them in the best way possible. The discomfort drives me nuts periodically. However, I'm gradually recovering now.

I have been watching older episodes, in no particular order and some of them are so good that its hard to believe that such a beautiful subject, saw an untimely end, thanks to a dismal plot and complete lack of historical appeal, post the leap.

There is one irritating and annoying aspect that blatantly stands out. Right from the time of Jalal's birthday celebrations after his marriage with Jodha, when Rukaiyya's first jealous/insecure/brattish outburst began, till the end of the serial, the plot solely progressed with its focus on BEK's insecurities and atrocities, in one form or the other.

As much as I love Jodha and Jalal, I wish we were shown the more realistic side of their characters befitting the circumstances of their union, their innate personalities that were as different as chalk and cheese and how both the pluses and minuses of their persona rubbed off each other. Watching their relationship grow, despite all odds, and the manner in which they left an indelible mark in history, would have been an absolute treat.




Dear Charu, sorry to hear about your hip and knees 😕. Being in pain is no fun.

@ bold above. You hit the nail on the head . Even in the last week of the show it was all about her.
I am following the rerun reviews on SHyamalas thread but not really watching every episode. I did tune in for Shaadi Saptah and am drawn in to how magical the episodes were at that time.

Take care Charu


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Updated my post on page 1. Here is the link: 😊


Thank you :)



How minutely you have captured THAT Jodha. Simply awesome. Afterall she was the FIRST Indian princess who married Akbar and was completely new in an 'alien' culture. I don't think it will be tough to relate with her for any married woman here, at least to some extent.

It would have been tough for her to adjust in a culture never seen before.

Along with Jodha, i will say THAT Jalal also takes care to ensure that his wife is treated with dignity unlike the version of JA. Saying this as I was watching the episode of JA where he asked her to perform in Jashn first day in Agra, which was not a welcome step by a ruler of his status, IMO. Anyways, it is all about CVs whims.

I will need some time to respond to that comment. Hope you continue to write regularly, as you did earlier.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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hi Radhika
nice post. i loved it.even i felt the same about JA.


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