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Originally posted by: elasingh
Excellent analysis Shyamala...👏.I agree with your reasoning that Jalal might have given instructions to SD abt how to go abt with Amer but if SD was also a part of the plan then why did he hesitate to release Jodha's brothers as per Jalal's orders? ...
Jallu's meeting with AK was good...and I liked both the actors...Chetan has always managed to impress audience with his acting...Another thing is that Ruq has met Jodha and has seen how pretty she is...Ruq also knows Jalal ran away to Amer...How come she has not added two plus two?
Originally posted by: Bindu_nhbr
Aunty,
A brief comment from my side, as I couldn't resist writing few words on your brilliant analysis of the episodes.All the three episodes were intense and Rukaiyya-free😉😆This was another fantastic review aunty🤗I loved your logical interpretation of the entire sequence of events.First,Sharifuddin has attacked Amer without Jalal's order nor there was any prior intimation from Sharif's side.Jalal comes to know of this, post attack and he expresses his pleasure to MA.I wondered whether it is possible for a Subhedar to wage a war on his discretion.Its extremely difficult to believe that Jalal has not discussed the course of action post victory with Sharif, given the importance of Amer to him.So,as you said he must have asked Sharif to screw Raja Bharmal.Wish these things were actually shown.I liked Chugtai Khan,he is a true friend to Bharmal and also loyal to Mughul Sultanat.Rajat,Paridhi,Ashwini and Chetan were flawless⭐️I liked Bharmal's self talk scene too and the dialogue you mentioned.I love Rajat's angry young man avataar❤️ ❤️and the blue dress suits him the mostThe triumphant smile on his face knowing that Bharmal wants to meet him was a sight to behold😳😳.Amer and Jodha are synonyms for him😉😉Paridhi depicted a true princess❤️❤️ and her performance was awesome👏👏.Her reaction to Surya's death was neither OTT nor less.I liked ur explanation😃.She was optimistic about the victory but was practical enough to understand the situation and accepted the defeat.As you said,she is a princess and knows the responsibility well.The best scene was the one b/w Jalal-Adham-Maham.Jalal's dialogues and RT's dialogue delivery coupled with his rage filled expressions were beyond perfect.I liked the last warning he gives saying Adham's would've been the theesri laash and next time, even doodh ka karz won't help😉😆.It was directed at both Mother and son😆But had Jalal gone deep into the matter and ordered strictly for evidences,instead of believing in fake proofs of Maham,his tiresome journey from Agra would have benefited.Also,from Preeti's comment,its clear that Malwa issue was part of actual history and not just NR.So,this seems incompleteJalal is definitely not a jallad,he cares for the riyaaya but needs some hitopadesham badly.Later,Jodha does the job.(She convinces him to go for a war against his Nigaar Aapa.)Your reference to Adham being a changeling is hilarious🤣 and BK's last laugh too😆How come Jalal didn't observe MA while leaving the room and how did MA place herself between Jalal's sword and Adham at the right time are million dollar questions😆😆I'm glad you mentioned these which were in my mind too.I too felt Jalal's slight smile after his Nikaah with Salima was intended to MA😆 while she doesn't even bother to fake happinessMy post turned out longer than intended.I'm waiting for the next masterpiece aunty as I've not read ur reviews during original run of the show.
Originally posted by: munni_rajatfan
aunty, perfect analysis once again. one thing i like to add, chetan havent done much of positive roles, he was always know for his negative roles most popular was sasha in balaji's kahani ghar ghar ki. with other PHs also he had mostly know for negative roles, the worth mentioning shows r PRC, where RT played prithvi & veer shivaji.
as per the show goes, honestly, bharmal always irritates me. "pith pe war karne wala" i mean really?? wht is he??? snatched his own nephew's throne & look who is talking. 😡 as per jalal goes i dont know whether it was his plan or not bcoz its not shown, but right now im just going to enjoy rajat's mind blowing acting.😳as per jodha goes, i had also said the same thing tht time regarding suryabhan issue. she is not at all love with him or dont have any intense feelings for him tht she will break down or go into any deep grief. she respects him for his qualities & afterall he is her would be husband so its normal she had tht natural gratitude for him, which she mistook as love. but tht feeling was never deep enough to go into any trauma.
"Questions: How is it that no question about Adham's misdeeds is raised by Jalal apart from the one of having killed children, the old and women? Even about this last, though Maham lies thru her pearly whites and produces two dead bodies as evidence in favour of Adham - she warns Jalal in the end that he should keep in mind that kate hue sar bola nahin karte, whatever that might mean - the key point for Jalal is that these two dead girls cannot talk either, and he has to take Maham's unsupported assertion as true.
Even if this "evidence" is accepted, how is it that there is not a single other witness to Adham's crimes, and how is it that his accusers, notably Peer Mohammed, are unable to unearth such a witness?
Moreover. what about the other accusations against Adham, that he let Baz Bahadur escape while he was busy grabbing his treasury and his harem, and most important, that he sent only a small part of this loot to Agra and misappropriated the rest? Not a word is said, by Jalal or by Peer Mohammed or the others, about these very important points.
This is bizarre, and reflects badly on Jalal as a ruler, for it shows him as lax and unfocussed on the task at hand, which is to probe Adham's crimes in Malwa. If these other accusations had been raised, Maham would have been very hard put to save her son. In the event, he gets off scot free.
Lastly, Jalal, while leaving, is not shown issuing any orders about the future dispensation in Malwa. This too is very odd, for he could hardly have left Adham in charge!"
I am glad you agree with me on the Jodha-Suryabhan relationship.
Shyamala
Originally posted by: Coolpree
Hello Shyamala, I want to go first to the end of your post and thank you for deciding to do a stand alone piece for episode 31 for it can easily count as one of the Hallmark episodes of this show.
Episode 30 was a very interesting one for me both in the "reel version" and the "real version with the battle of Malwa". For this episode had some very firm foundations in history. I only wish they had included the romantic but sad end of Rani Rupmati and the absolute cowardice of her so called love Baz bahadur. When we can be treated to endless episodes on fictitious characters like Benazir, laboni, Atifa and Shenaaz. Why can't we have a little snippet about the lovely and brave Rani Rupmati especially since she is referenced so vividly in the Akbarnama itself.
The most delightful part was definitely the last scene. The look of "sheer delight" as you said on Jalal's face when Chugtai Khan (loved that character ) mentions the presence of Bharmal was amazingly enacted by Rajat. I got goosebumps thinking of the way he is going to corner Bharmal in the next episode.
Hot Air and Vain Glory: Your hilarious reference to Bharmal's "substantial anatomy" notwithstanding, I really felt bad and fearful for the Ameri's. They are really caught between a rock and a hard place. The sheer panic and desperation shown by Jodha perfectly highlights the hopelessness of their situation. I only watched episode 30 but I think Raja Bharmal is perfectly pragmatic and sees the writing on the wall perfectly. Jodha as you put it was dignified and fit her role as a Rajvanshi princess perfectly. I tend to side with the underdog and in this case my sympathies were firmly with the Ameri's.
Your take on Jodha's lack of grief for suryabhaan was remarkably perceptive and took me a while to process. I agree with you completely and also loved your reference to the "Deewangee " which will develop between her and Jallal.😳
Maham: I learnt 2 new words in my weekly English literature class with you " Mrigtrishna" and "Goebbelsian lie" . Thank you for providing the definitions so we did not have to scramble for our dictionaries😆😆
"Well, the wheels of God grind slowly, says the Bible, but they grind exceedingly small"- Loved the way you have used this verse. This is so true to the Maham situation on so many levels...beautifully put 👏.
As for the murder of the two concubines of Baz Bahadur : I am not sure if many realize this but her Dialogue " kate hue sar bola nahin karte" is not some random dialogue but is a direct quote from the Akbarnama!!!
I am quoting directly from the English translation of the Akbarnama chapter XXXV:
"Maham perceived that if these two women were introduced to His Majesty the veil over her acts would be raised, and her son's treachery be revealed. She therefore caused these two innocent ones to be put to death for "a severed head makes no sound." - this I thought was pretty remarkable. Someone on this show really did their homework.
Jalal and Raajdharma: the dialogues you quoted were beautiful but rang very hollow to me. For leaving Malwa and his dear riyaya he cared so much for in the hands of Adham Khan (yes he did leave Malwa in their hands after they handed over the spoils of war) a mass murderer and rapist was unbelievably careless and irresponsible. Very very far away from Raj dharma in my opinion. I have a lot to say about Jalal's handling of the Malwa episode both in the show and in real history. But I am tired and its late at night so you will be spared my rant for now 😉. However I do want to say that given the magnitude of Adham's crime, Jalal should have chosen his Rajdharma over his doodh ka karz. He did not and as you said he came across as Lax, indecisive and out foxed once again by his Baddi Ammi.
Thanks once again dear.
Preeti
Originally posted by: devkidmd
I, for one, am truly impressed with the way this whole Amer war, Malwa incident and Bharmal meeting is so well grounded in history. All the NR has been so well incorporated that very few things seems out of place to me and I am willing to nazarandaaz those. This is a lesser crime than the things I have chosen to ignore much later.😆
I am in absolute agreement with you that more likely than not Jalal is the mastermind behind the Amer war. He has to be. The fact that they did not show any kind of guft-a-gu between Jalal and Sharif about the whens and hows about the war maintains the mystery around how this whole wedding proposal came about.They let Jalal's expressions(RT was super) do all the talking and let the viewers decide for themselves. Anything more obvious would have taken away that mystery and the excitement about did he or did he not??Chugtai Khan seemed genuine in his approach to Jalal but they did have few private minutes before Bharmal came in. Jalal may have given Chugtai Khan strong hints about which direction he wants the convo to go in.Jodha was just the way she should be. Such maturity in one so young is truly commendable. She is one of those rare people who are like a rock of support. Just their presence is enough to boost a person's morale. She does have a tendency to Bhaashan maaro, like she did Bharmal as he left with CK to meet Jalal but in my eyes Jo ko sau bhaashan maaf.😆PS: Modaks are all gone! Steamed and fried YUMMO!
Hot air and vainglory:
In Maharana Pratap- Phool Kunwar taunts Hira Kunwari(Jodha here) that i pity how you did not jump in fire but married a mughal jallad. Hira says i did not expect a woman to speak like this of my sacrifice- what i did was to save my family, my people, my amer. And i am happy to know they are all safe and happy, so what if my dreams were broken and i was forced to marry a mughal.
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