Jodha Akbar 9th April 2015..Sweet and Bitter...LONG analysis upd Pg-1 - Page 8

Originally posted by: ndi.anggraeni81

tfs abhay and yes its a bitter sweet episode, sweet watching jalal and jodha scene but bitter watching jalal jodha salim relationship.

okey i want to give my pov for salim and dont take this as i defend him but these couple days i watched old episode when salim still 8 or 9 year old and sth bug me and want to share with you guys, i love jodha jalal but i wont blind if there flaws in their character.

1. Salim slap murad , okey now these two are the collateral damage from jalal decission during conoration, salim still feel pain, hurt and anger and murad come at the wrong moment, anar know salim mind are not in good state thats why she told murad that was not the place to talk, and when murad told her to shut up and call her kanzi or sth like that ( is it right how i write it ? ) he was kinda rude to her, and now salim of course wont accept the woman he love being insult, and to be honest jalal would do the same, jalal wont accept anyone insult his belove wife, so whats the different between salim and jalal when it become to defend the woman they love

2. Salim defend anar not just because he love him but because for him all people are the same, he said in dek that even a dancer is a person too, and i think he is genuie bout this, i remember when jodha jalal wedding anniversary there one dancer from red light want to perfome, ruq refuse but jodha and salim think all people in mughal are their people no matter what the social status.

3. Jalal decide to bring salim slap murad on dek, jodha already told jalal to talk to salim alone first but he refused, now the storm have come and what jodha fear of will happen, salim felt that jalal only want to humiliate him, first when salim coronation stop by shah e ran messenger he still in the dark to why that being stop and jalal still dont reveal the reason, and after salim get to know the reason jalal give him task as what will salim do if he is the king and salim give his answer and everyone happy proud and satiesfield with his answer and jalal annouce in dek for salim conoration but again without telling the reason instead jalal pick murad, did jalal think how it shamefull for salim that time ? how can jalal expect salim to understand when jalal didnt gave the expalanation first, and its happen few time, and when jalal try to explain later it already too late because the pain in salim heart are getting deeper, salim said he didnt matter if jalal pick murad but what salim angry is the way jalal doin it, for salim is it necesarry for jalal to keep humiliate him ?, need lot effort for jalal and salim to fix their relationship.

4. Now bout salim even i dislike his character but since i watched the old episode im kinda feel his pain, jalal almost never show how much he love salim, salim very afraid of jalal even when he talk he avoid eye contact and always nervous very different when he talk to jodha, i know jalal want salim strong like him but he is too hard on salim, jodha always told jalal to take slow step regarding salim but jalal always make comparison when he is at salim age what he already can do but jalal forget that he and salim are different people and the situation when he was kid different too, i know as wali ahad jalal expect salim to think his people but what can you expect from 8-9 years old kid ?, how can make a kid understand what his duty and responsible, when nadira fell on pool jalal said to salim that he could lie that he is the one who push her so her parents wont get fired by ruq ? i was kinda wth , how can a kid that doin nothing wrong must confess doin sth wrong ?, and the fall out when jalal slap salim and send him to war with rahim and man singh, there are hurt and pain in salim heart because of his childhood, he grow up without his parents love and guide, just like young jalal who think hamida didnt love him, salim think jodha and jalal didnt love him, the bad memory from his childhood inprint so strong in his mind, he kept repeating how jalal never listen to him whenever jalal punish him and thats the proove that how his childhood effecting him.

5. Now i know some people wont agree with me but i hope in this matter jodha stay beside salim, salim need someone to gude her, to show him the right way, need someone who can heal pain in his heart, jodha always stay beside jalal in bad and good why cant she do the same for her son ?, i know some think jodha very weak in salim matter, but here we talk about a mother who must survive for 9 year without her son, a mother who must watched his son being send away to war in early age, she cant give her love and protection for his son in childhood, jodha lost salim once and she wont lost for the second time, i just hope jodha be strong so she can handle salim and make him a better person, her love can change jalal so i hope her love can change salim.

and for precap i think sth big happen that make jodha angry like that to jalal, cant wait for nexr episode

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Bhavna

Wonderfully said! 👏

Jalal was talking of Salim as if he was only Jodha's son. He said aapka beta, not hamara beta. What kind of father can be ok if he loses his son? Even a king is a father in private.

Second point you raised is also critical. No king ever won a war on his own, not even Akbar.

Also this whole idea of Tajposhi came because he wanted to honor Salim for his role in the war. Now suddenly he thinks Salim was not responsible for the win? Then why did he arrange for Taj poshi?

Jalal is blaming Salim's anger. What about his own temper tantrums? Even now he is reacting to Salim's behavior in anger and punishing him thoughtlessly. Is he thinking coolly? Is he at all thinking why Salim is behaving like this instead of simply focusing on the behavior?

Unless Jalal gets to the heart of Salim and understands him, no matter how much he punishes him, he cannot reform him. A wayward son can only be brought back to the right path thru love, patience and understanding and unconditional support.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi

Loved your thoughts - I feel the same way !!

@bold: I also want Jodha to be there for her son when he is going thru a troubled time.

Originally posted by: history_geek

It wasn't bad. First watch it Vini. It was much better.
No matter we all complain here but still watch it. :-P
First scene of JJ and last scene of DEK was good.

And do catch that grape scene from last episode.
Watching that scene, by no means JJ looked parents..LOL...

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika,

When Salima Begum brought him back from Allahabad, that time also, Akbar was angry with him. But in the court he embraced him, though in "private" he slapped him hard. At least in "public" , nothing of the sort happened as the makers are showing.

Salim was "ziddi" as we saw in the post where he was enamoured of Zain Khan Koka's daughter.
Salim-got-"violently"-enamoured-to-marry-zain-khan-daughter-finally-akbar-agrees

Having said this, even REAL Salim never dared insult Akbar like the one shown in our show. :-P

Yahan par alag hi story chal rahi hai.

Originally posted by: ndi.anggraeni81

true radhika , did jalal not realise that salim are duplicate him in anger management ? 😆😆, salim kind heart are legacy from mom, but his anger his ego his yell his stubborn are legacy from his dad 😉😆 , jalal are fire and salim fire too and when fire vs fire we could have firework , one of them have to become water to cooling down the situation.

jodha and jalal must give salim what he lost since his childhood, parent love, support and protection

Originally posted by: ndi.anggraeni81

hi too 😆😆

there is one old episode when jalal told salim that tomoroow he must attend dek, my heart break watched salim hold on jodha duppata and walk behind jodha and whisper to jodha that everyone is here abujan must be want to punish me, then when jodha will go to her seat salim not let go his mom duppata and with his eyes plead to his mom to not leave him alone, God i almost cry watch his pleading eyes, he really scare his dad like hell and that is not good

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Sigh! Then and now, nothing has changed. Salim is still regularly produced in the DEK and now he can't even hide in Jodha's dupatta.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Jodha is the water who has to cool the two fires. I really do not envy her present situation. 😕