War winds blow ... but Jalal's real enemy is God!

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sun29

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Posted: 10 years ago

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mansi ..EK strives on human emotions ...so the war is not going to be that important but the reactions and effects before and after are...hence i do not see a union or a decent diwali for us...it is humanely impossible to be back to normal or even smile after an event of such huge proportion neither for jodha nor for jalal...hence beter not to believe that man who may very well be indicating diwali of next year...

and thank you for such a wonderful post and i completely agree with you...there cannot be a 3 year leap given the intensity of Jalal's rage on God and his need to avenge his kids..he will not be waiting for 3 years to do that...this is the immediate effect of the loss we are seeing...hence a few weeks have only passed nothing more...

also yes he has directed all his energy towards God now...and God will in his own way bring him back ..

the repercussions are going to be huge after this...i am very curious to see the journey back for Jalal and jodha and i sincerely pray cvs do not rush it

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Mansi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: mandyg

donjas i too have heard two rumors one is that the mini sr they showed was their last scene of being intimate which means salim is on its way and no leap of 3 years and also reunion by diwali and news of salim..but why i feel that the first one is most likely..spiritual path..realization of what damages were done in chittor war..! more of a kalinga effect!..and then reviving faith and going to salim chishti and hearing news of salim!

Mandy, between you and me, its better to see the Kalinga effect in the new serial on Ashoka, than to see it in Jodha Akbar! Don't you think?😆😆😆😆😆 here if we have it, the CVs are sure to make a prolonged and painful mishmash!

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Mansi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: MaddyO
Mansi, wonderful post. Your description of Jalal's state of mind is the best one

Very busy today so just short post, will try to post later.

Jodha did not collect all her jewelry and money JUST FOR RAJVANSHI WINDOWS or INJURED - Jodha told Bharmal it was FOR INJURED OF BOTH SIDES AND THEIR FAMILIES - then Bharmal told her she need not worry about Mughal soldiers cos Jalal has made ample provisions for their families.

Only AFTER HEARING this Jodha then told Bharmal in that case she wants to help the Rajvanshi war ravages families as there is nobody to help them.

Jodha has been extremely fair and treated both Mughals and Rajvanshis equally here.

Good point Maddy, but I was less thinking about who the jewelry was for, and I was more interested in why Jodha thought of it. I feel she thought that Jalal is being so one-track at the moment that he may not have the bandwidth to think of the war aftermath!

When Maan Singh went to war against that Raja he was also Rajvanshi and she had supported him.

It is not the war but THE WAY JALAL IS APPROACHING IT THE BRUTALITY she sees in Jalal that will make him lose reason and take out his rage on everybody that is scaring Jodha.

She is worried about Rajvanshis but she is more worried for Jalal cos she knows he will never find peace in this but will get more traumatized. This is what is going to happen and Jalal after seeing the bodies and his promise to God that he will laugh will cry instead seeing he felt no peace and how many he destroyed in his hatred.

Jodha is more worried for Jalal cos she understands him and loves him.

Correct! I see it the same way ...

I think Jalal is going to realize what Jodha had told him why this war this way was futile and that will be his first step towards healing.

I find the idea that Jodha will be shown pregnant absolutely appalling - it should not be - cos then it will seem like he came back to normal or to Jodha ONLY AFTER he got news of getting another baby. Then everything will just seem so fake.

I thought as you did too on this pregnancy thing, but just read Donjas' post and you may get an interesting new way of looking at it. It has changed my mind! I replied Donjas on this also, please read that too if you have time!😃

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Mansi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: mandyg

many did not like the fact, including myself, that death of infants was used as a driving force for akbar to become barbaric and gruesome!

Oh OK, I guess that's a valid point. But the whole game of Ekta is "drama" so I am not surpridsed she squeezed the kids' death to make Jalal blow his fuse! This is typical Ekta stuff!😲

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Mansi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: sun29

mansi ..EK strives on human emotions ...so the war is not going to be that important but the reactions and effects before and after are...hence i do not see a union or a decent diwali for us...it is humanely impossible to be back to normal or even smile after an event of such huge proportion neither for jodha nor for jalal...hence beter not to believe that man who may very well be indicating diwali of next year...

and thank you for such a wonderful post and i completely agree with you...there cannot be a 3 year leap given the intensity of Jalal's rage on God and his need to avenge his kids..he will not be waiting for 3 years to do that...this is the immediate effect of the loss we are seeing...hence a few weeks have only passed nothing more...

also yes he has directed all his energy towards God now...and God will in his own way bring him back ..

the repercussions are going to be huge after this...i am very curious to see the journey back for Jalal and jodha and i sincerely pray cvs do not rush it

Sunny, to quote the Zee Man he said to me "Happy Diwali" at the end of the phone call. I said "You are making my Diwali unhappy with this storyline and your lies and no Ruq pardaphash and all that". He said "I will never tell lies to you and make you udaas at the time of Diwali, and I wish you will enjoy what is to come, that's why I am telling these positive things that are surely going to happen. I know you call every day and ask the same questions ..."

Suddenly I had a "moment". I thought to myself "This Zee man is falling in love with me, I am sure. Maybe I should now propose marriage to him!" Do you think I should?

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sun29

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Posted: 10 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: skanda12

Sunny, to quote the Zee Man he said to me "Happy Diwali" at the end of the phone call. I said "You are making my Diwali unhappy with this storyline and your lies and no Ruq pardaphash and all that". He said "I will never tell lies to you and make you udaas at the time of Diwali, and I wish you will enjoy what is to come, that's why I am telling these positive things that are surely going to happen. I know you call every day and ask the same questions ..."

Suddenly I had a "moment". I thought to myself "This Zee man is falling in love with me, I am sure. Maybe I should now propose marriage to him!" Do you think I should?

😆😆...yup this is the moonlight effect..he has become lattoo over you 😆..propose and take as many inside spoilers as you can and if they turn out to be wrong dump him at the altar and if they turn out to be true still dump him at the alter but with sympathy😆😆

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vinitaj27

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Posted: 10 years ago

#37

Mansi i absolutly agree with u. I have saying so since yesterday when everyone was thiking thatjalalmis laming the rajwanshis for his kids death but i did say the same thing that he is just finding a way to unleash all the anger inside him and had MC attacked at this point he would have been equally ferocious regardless of whetehr his enemy is mugal or rajwanshi. His fight as u said is with god only.

Jodha confused me a bit coz i felt she was somehow wrong in not supporting her husband just because the enemies were rajwanshi. Had she done the same if it was MC in front of jalal? Then i realised that her problem is not with the enemy clan or religion but the fact that jalal was not completly right in fighting this battle as his reasons were not pure. She was also worried tabt the effect this war would have on his reputation just like she was worried during khyber phase as she didnt want her hiusband to commit a sin. But i wish they had made the dialogues better to give clarity to her thoughts.

I read somewhere that grief has several stages one needs to cross before reaching acceptance. Jalal has already gone through disbelief, anger and bargaining now depression and acceptance is left.

I think mon will be war front as we have got pics of todarmal n mansingh with guns.

Tues we may see jalals bloodlust cooling a bit n seeing the dead bodies a bit of pain instead of anger

Wednesday we may have a repenting jalal who realises how much destruction he has left in his path. Thur is diwali so i think we may have jalal coming back to agra and fri we may have jalal trying to talk to jodha and her being in anger. Well thats just my idea dont know what cv will dish out. In the middle we will also have jodha lamenting over the war n crying and ruqqaiya smirking or spouting venom filled dialogues for jodha as usual.

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vinitaj27

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Posted: 10 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: sun29

😆😆...yup this is the moonlight effect..he has become lattoo over you 😆..propose and take as many inside spoilers as you can and if they turn out to be wrong dump him at the altar and if they turn out to be true still dump him at the alter but with sympathy😆😆

OMG! Sun how do u dump someone At the alter with SYMPATHY?

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Pooja

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Posted: 10 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: skanda12

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Whether the reasons for war are bogus or not we have to take the story as it comes because we have no way of controlling what they show!😃

I know aur issi baat ka rona hai ki whatever they will show we have to watch. It has become our bad habbit. Jo badi muskil se chootegi.