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Posted: 11 years ago
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I very much agreed with all that you have written Mansi.
Now I understand both are in pain and though it is unfair as Jalal put all the blame on Jodha. Well that is his way of protecting himself perhaps. He had lost so many closed ones in recent times and that could be the reason why he is being so unreasonable. He may feel he is protecting himself from another heartbreak because Jodha is his most beloved and by distancing himself and becoming cold and detached, he may feel save or even protecting Jodha - caused by fear of losing her or his guilt of not being able to save his closed one, his children. This is hurting her more but he just doesn't see it just yet, we tend to hurt the ones who we love and love us the most.

Of course this leave Jodha alone and hurting without anyone by her side. But we all know Jodha is way stronger than Jalal, emotionally. He is weak in that department and now being controlled by a rage that he couldn't see the consequences just yet, he is being downright cruel and uncontrollable. We too know CV just love to portray the female lead in this sense, their own sadistic pleasure. They still can show the distance between the lovers without cruelty from Jalal's side for Jodha but why would they do that when this can bring more drama and sadistic pleasure right?

Of course after the rage is doused and he saw the damage he has caused, he needs to return to his old self, to his heart, his Jodha. It maybe almost too late then, perhaps Jodha is changed now- definitely CV won't leave the chance to show more drama and twists which later can lead to reconciliation of both followed by them making peace with their destiny and faith. Salim's birth is a result of ardent prayers by both Jodha and Jalal right - they need to believe in life, themselves and God again. This is a phase that I am rooting on since yesterday, my small hunch and silly hope that Ruqaiyya can still be exposed and the track can still get a better closure.

Now, we know Ruqaiyya took Hussein from Jodha because she wants to get back to her for taking Jalal away, and then she also wants to be the MUZ. the MUZ dream is no where near to her now but separating both JJ seems to be just in line. We don't know whether or not Ruqaiyya has any hand in HH's death, whether there is another story between her and Zeenat that caused her to kill Zeenat so quickly. But if there was then she has succeeded quiet well, in separating Jalal and Jodha and also in getting back the Jalal that was lost from her - the Jallad one. I have a feeling with the lack of villain in the harem now, Jalal being away - Jodha pining for him - can Ruqaiyya think that without Jodha in the picture she can actually retain the 'old' Jalal that has just recently reemerged? The Jallad that she is familiar and close with. Can Ruqaiyya think that Jalal won't care for Jodha if anything happen to her thus come up with some ploy that can end her? So that she can be ultimately the most powerful and closest to him? And can this be the jerk that Jalal need to stop his barbarism and return to his love and eventually lead to Ruqaiyya's exposition?

Well we live in small hope and mercies 😆

Please chill and enjoy Diwali - I bet the story is molding to adjust with the upcoming absence of the lead by over glorifying of Ruqaiyya and at one point everything needs to come to an end - though it could anticlimactic looking at their love for jaan begum, we just have to do with what they dish out, there is little choice in this matter.




Edited by gheet - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12
Nice post Mansi and i liked ypur green part alot..
Actually apart from that dialouge what jalal said to jodha i liked episode. The ruthless jalal and dignified jodha who is bearing pain, guilt and accusation she still held her head high and living in agra.
I did not like one bit when jalal blame jodha. He disappointed me alot. If jodha was at on fault so was jalal. If he was in pain and guilt so was jodha but it does not mean he solely blame jodha for kids death. To blame her he increased her burden of guilt more. If they distance from each other without any blame game i have no any problem then i supported jalal but after that i cannot. But it doesnot mean i donot believe in their love. I still believe jalal love jodha more than any thing in this world but still some thing always remain in your mind you donot forget that jalal blame jodha for kids death.
Salima begum, she was awesome. I liked her alot when she showed ruk a mirror but i am terrified from her dialouge about jodha because cvs always use this type of dialouge as like mahamanga curse.
Jalal as ruthless, angry person i liked it and the last scene was good. When jodha cut her finger jalal was flick a little bit i loved that.
Mansi, why are you saying about S-A story donot say this dear. Its hurting me.
Edited by ---jais--- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: chiona

I don't think that's its a 3 year leap. The fact that he says that he has been having trouble for three years can mean his problems from the time he heard about jodha and he wanted to conquer Rajputana. So it may just be a leap of 3 weeks I still think there is time to expose ruk if they want (don't think they will though) and jodha can still get pregnant after there one night and this might help in jalal getting his faith back.



this is given in zee episode update
Jodha Akbar - Episode 353 - October 16, 2014 Akbar carries his baby's corpse with a heavy heart and completes the final rituals. He later goes on to hold Jodha responsible for the death of the babies as she was not beside the babies although she was asked to be. Rukaiyya too seems to be blaming Jodha for this incident but Salima Begum reminds her that it was she who had approved of Zeenat being the new 'dai maa' of the baby. As days pass, Akbar becomes a cruel and a heartless emperor filled with anger and seeing this Jodha feels bad. Later, Akbar decides to go on a war, but Jodha feels that Akbar is engaging in this war out of anger and decides to stop Akbar. Will Jodha manage to stop Akbar from shedding his own blood and the blood of the others? FInd out here.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Goras

Great post Mansi .

How could thspey show JA distanced for three years . dil dukhta hai Mansi I regret why did i get so much attatched to JA .


ManSi , can you please ask zee about this leap I know I m bothering but ...

I'll try but he may say the same thing as usual!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: preetgurti

Its not three years seperation it was weeks got confirmation from writer

plus on twitter his tweet indicate of bigl g leap

his tweet is
'Ishq hai wo ahsaas... Badal de jo duniyaa.'
Samay bhi badalega...aage badhne ka naam hi zindagi hai. :)

his next reply to fan

diwali tak this ja seperation is there

saw manisha aka salima posting a pic of chotu sa kid boy maybe young salim

so leap def coming in month
we may se paridhi rajat leaving
we will also leave who will watch Salim Anarkali crap anyway

Preet, the separation may be three weeks in terms of episode time, but the storyline has leaped three years (i.e. from date of twins death till date of Chittor war). So that means they are saying that for three years there was estrangement between Jalal and Jodha which they are collapsing and showing in three weeks real time.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: akdhalover

hough i have read many explanations and interpretions of that rain scene but i couldn't find it satisfying
Deep down that sentence has hurt all of us actualy! What we wanted was to jalal reply back ruku showing her the mirror of her deeds but instead he accused jo of being irresponsible
What to say more? My hopes washe away simply :')
P.S the ishq hai vo ehsaas that played y'day was magical felt like the first time it had played and the tilak scene was the only good part in the whole epi

What use is it to like small bits of some scenes when the whole story is going haywire!😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: chiona

I don't think that's its a 3 year leap. The fact that he says that he has been having trouble for three years can mean his problems from the time he heard about jodha and he wanted to conquer Rajputana. So it may just be a leap of 3 weeks I still think there is time to expose ruk if they want (don't think they will though) and jodha can still get pregnant after there one night and this might help in jalal getting his faith back.

Historically speaking it was three years between time of twins death and Chittor war. Of course Ekta can collapse history if she wants and say that it was just one month or whatever ... and that Jalal was saying the Rajvanshis gave trouble for the last three years.
The only consolation we get if we accept the Ekta may have collapsed the three years into shorter time is that we can feel happy Jo-Ja were not separated for so long! If we want we can imagine it like that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: gheet

I very much agreed with all that you have written Mansi.

Now I understand both are in pain and though it is unfair as Jalal put all the blame on Jodha. Well that is his way of protecting himself perhaps. He had lost so many closed ones in recent times and that could be the reason why he is being so unreasonable. He may feel he is protecting himself from another heartbreak because Jodha is his most beloved and by distancing himself and becoming cold and detached, he may feel save or even protecting Jodha - caused by fear of losing her or his guilt of not being able to save his closed one, his children. This is hurting her more but he just doesn't see it just yet, we tend to hurt the ones who we love and love us the most.

Of course this leave Jodha alone and hurting without anyone by her side. But we all know Jodha is way stronger than Jalal, emotionally. He is weak in that department and now being controlled by a rage that he couldn't see the consequences just yet, he is being downright cruel and uncontrollable. We too know CV just love to portray the female lead in this sense, their own sadistic pleasure. They still can show the distance between the lovers without cruelty from Jalal's side for Jodha but why would they do that when this can bring more drama and sadistic pleasure right?

Of course after the rage is doused and he saw the damage he has caused, he needs to return to his old self, to his heart, his Jodha. It maybe almost too late then, perhaps Jodha is changed now- definitely CV won't leave the chance to show more drama and twists which later can lead to reconciliation of both followed by them making peace with their destiny and faith. Salim's birth is a result of ardent prayers by both Jodha and Jalal right - they need to believe in life, themselves and God again. This is a phase that I am rooting on since yesterday, my small hunch and silly hope that Ruqaiyya can still be exposed and the track can still get a better closure.

Now, we know Ruqaiyya took Hussein from Jodha because she wants to get back to her for taking Jalal away, and then she also wants to be the MUZ. the MUZ dream is no where near to her now but separating both JJ seems to be just in line. We don't know whether or not Ruqaiyya has any hand in HH's death, whether there is another story between her and Zeenat that caused her to kill Zeenat so quickly. But if there was then she has succeeded quiet well, in separating Jalal and Jodha and also in getting back the Jalal that was lost from her - the Jallad one. I have a feeling with the lack of villain in the harem now, Jalal being away - Jodha pining for him - can Ruqaiyya think that without Jodha in the picture she can actually retain the 'old' Jalal that has just recently reemerged? The Jallad that she is familiar and close with. Can Ruqaiyya think that Jalal won't care for Jodha if anything happen to her thus come up with some ploy that can end her? So that she can be ultimately the most powerful and closest to him? And can this be the jerk that Jalal need to stop his barbarism and return to his love and eventually lead to Ruqaiyya's exposition?

Well we live in small hope and mercies 😆

Please chill and enjoy Diwali - I bet the story is molding to adjust with the upcoming absence of the lead by over glorifying of Ruqaiyya and at one point everything needs to come to an end - though it could anticlimactic looking at their love for jaan begum, we just have to do with what they dish out, there is little choice in this matter.




That's what the CVs are doing with Jodha and Jala but to watchers it seems unfair for one person (Jodha) to be bearing the brunt of everything, even if Ekta hopes to show Jodha as ultra strong by doing this!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: ---jais---

Nice post Mansi and i liked ypur green part alot..
Actually apart from that dialouge what jalal said to jodha i liked episode. The ruthless jalal and dignified jodha who is bearing pain, guilt and accusation she still held her head high and living in agra.
I did not like one bit when jalal blame jodha. He disappointed me alot. If jodha was at on fault so was jalal. If he was in pain and guilt so was jodha but it does not mean he solely blame jodha for kids death. To blame her he increased her burden of guilt more. If they distance from each other without any blame game i have no any problem then i supported jalal but after that i cannot. But it doesnot mean i donot believe in their love. I still believe jalal love jodha more than any thing in this world but still some thing always remain in your mind you donot forget that jalal blame jodha for kids death.
Salima begum, she was awesome. I liked her alot when she showed ruk a mirror but i am terrified from her dialouge about jodha because cvs always use this type of dialouge as like mahamanga curse.
Jalal as ruthless, angry person i liked it and the last scene was good. When jodha cut her finger jalal was flick a little bit i loved that.
Mansi, why are you saying about S-A story donot say this dear. Its hurting me.

I know it hurts. I also mention that with a lot of sadness, but we have to face it if it comes ... and it looks more and more like it is coming since there are mentions that the actors are already being auditioned for the SA story!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: swepa



this is given in zee episode update
Jodha Akbar - Episode 353 - October 16, 2014 Akbar carries his baby's corpse with a heavy heart and completes the final rituals. He later goes on to hold Jodha responsible for the death of the babies as she was not beside the babies although she was asked to be. Rukaiyya too seems to be blaming Jodha for this incident but Salima Begum reminds her that it was she who had approved of Zeenat being the new 'dai maa' of the baby. As days pass, Akbar becomes a cruel and a heartless emperor filled with anger and seeing this Jodha feels bad. Later, Akbar decides to go on a war, but Jodha feels that Akbar is engaging in this war out of anger and decides to stop Akbar. Will Jodha manage to stop Akbar from shedding his own blood and the blood of the others? FInd out here.

Hmmm ...😲

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