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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Brillant write-up Mansi .


Yes , almost more than half of the forum members are upset with today's episode . I read a lot of angry feedbacks about Jalal's treatment of Jodha , for blaming her alone for Hussein's death . Taken at face value , his reaction towards her is upsetting .

I see the entire scenario differently .

Jalal is NOT angry with Jodha . He is angry at himself . He is loaded with guilt for being an irresponsible parent by being unable to provide a safe environment within the mahal for his twins thus allowing the wicked cousins from Lahore to be successful in their vile act . This guilt also stems from the realization that he was also equally responsible for Jodha staying away from Hussein that fateful night .Every time he sees Jodha , he is reminded of the twins that were a symbol of their union,every time he sees Jodha , he feels that he has let her down as a husband . He is unable to face her , hence has isolated himself from her .

That he still loves her was amply clear by the fleeting but intense look of concern that he shot at her while marching down the mahal with Maan Singh in tow.The fact that he loves and values ONLY her stamp of approval was evident when he insisted that only she perform the Tilak pooja , prior to his leaving for war .

There is immense love hidden behind that intense guilt , pain , anger and blame game .

This temporary separation will prove to be bitter sweet .Their love for each other will outweigh the guilt and anger that is tearing him apart . Jodha's mature level headed thinking will play a major role in bringing about a calming effect in him .She sees his display of anger as a cry for help . So she is unwillingly allowing him to vent his pain and frustration by waging a war . Her patience and quiet understanding is sustaining their relationship .Never once did she lose faith in her love for him and question his unacceptable behavior towards her . She is silently suffering along with him .

I feel that the gory sight of the aftermath of the Chittor war will make him realize that by making a decision of going to war in anger ,and being directly responsible for all the innocent lives lost in battle , will not bring his dead babies back to life .Jodha's words of advise to him prior to war will haunt him and force him to rethink about his senseless brutality .

After retuning from the war , I am expecting to see positive changes in his personality.I would love to see him walking in a trance like state into Jodha's hojra when he hears her sing 'Hey murlidhar, hey damodar' . Jodha will reinstall his faith in the Almighty . This will be the first step towards their healing and spiritual journey together .



Charu .


Yes Charu, we all know that jalal blames himself and that's why his anger is difficult to control. But that one sentence he says to Jodha that she should have returned to Husein is like trying to shift the blame and absolve himself of responsibility. We do not expect that of a real man, and a King. It would have been better had the CVs made him say "What we both did is something I cannot swallow at all". Bas that's all we ask!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Donjas


I am saying, forget that you know anything about history. Just examine the situation as an ordinary serial not a historical. So, Ekta has not compressed 3 years into 3 weeks. The time now is a little while after the death of the twins.

If that is so, the sequence of events is as follows-1 Kids die 2 Jalal gets bitter and goes on a warpath to forget his pain

I will repeat, if there is a leap of any duration, they will announce it

I have to thank you sincerely for keeping that attitude and passing it on to us! Thanks again!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi I am in rush today so very short but VENTING post.

They actually murdered the "epic love" story yesterday.

If they show some lollypop Ruk exposure it has TOTALLY lost its meaning cos she got away scot free, she was the murderer of twins by getting Zeenat access to them and refusing Jodha.

WE ALL KNOW they took leap of 3 years no matter what Zee or the PATHETIC DECENCY AND ETHICS OR RESPONSIBILITY CHALLENGED writers might say - cos twins 64 Chittor was 67-68 so they took 3 years leap.

I will not be surprised they did this cos they had no guts to show Akbar barbarizm in the war then why even show it? Why glorify WHY he did it cos it will hurt sentiments. I wish someone files a case against BT for this butchering. The writers should be named in the suit and made a party.

I think they will directly show Jodha is pregnant when Jalal comes back and it will be with Salim so he will be glad at getting a waris and he will beg fake sob with Jodha say fake sorry so that he can keep Jodha in somewhat decent mood so HIS WARIS remains safe

So NO love he will PRETEND to love her for getting the waris safely in his hands.

I am glad SA seems to be coming.

Yesterday basically this love story died and Jalal killed Jodha by his words.

So there is only Jalal left here and HIS REAL LOVE Ruk

Just watching for Paridhi and Rajat now and I HOPE they are not part of this atrocity and absolute lack of any moral responsibility by Ekta.

They are super actors and have huge number of fans and they will have glorious careers.

I hope Ekta is made to pay by someone by filing a case against her and levied HUGE MONETARY PENALTY for doing this. She only understands this language. I hope her PH finally starts paying for THIS with their KARMA.


PS : I won't be surprised if Rajat and Paridhi are completing their shooting for JA entirely. So he will finish HIS work for JA and Paridhi HERS. So they will rush he comes back, hears she is pregnant, fake sob say sorry and then announce birth of Salim and directly into SA. If they rush this who knows Paridhi and Rajat might be completing their shootings before he takes his break and after Diwali they both will look for other serials/movies options.

Maddy I was hoping you would vent more just so that I can read it all and feel as if the words have come from my mouth. Chalta hai, even the words you have written are incisive and give great moral satisfaction!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes Charu, we all know that jalal blames himself and that's why his anger is difficult to control. But that one sentence he says to Jodha that she should have returned to Husein is like trying to shift the blame and absolve himself of responsibility. We do not expect that of a real man, and a King. It would have been better had the CVs made him say "What we both did is something I cannot swallow at all". Bas that's all we ask!


I agree . Lets see what more unrealistic nonsense we will be subjected to , in the name of history .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi i liked the epi yesterday. I agree jalal was wrong in blaming jodha but it was his own guilt n belplessness which made him lash out. He has lost all those whom he has loved be it his father khan baba atgaah saheb badi ammi n now his kids. He is scared that if he loves jodha he will lose her also n the pain would be too much to bear whch he wants to avoid.
As for three yrs he says its three yrs since chittor has been granting asylum to his enemies n remember they have been doing so since before his marriage n he has been married for two yrs nw so it has just been few mnths since the kids death.
He stopped ruqqaiya n forced jodha to do tilak partly to bend her to his will n mai ly coz he cant bear to see someone elsetake her place in his life. I am happy that v got to see a fiery jalal n a fiery jodha who is although sad but not broken n still stood up for what she believed in.
Mansi this is one story where v know that they will b back together. It will b interesting to see how n when. I think ruqqaiya will not b punshed for kids death but might try to harm jodha out of jealousy or rage n get caught n this in turn also might bring jalal n jodha closer.
Mansi just remember that jalal cannot seperate jodha from his wajood even if he manages to kill his dil as she is a part ofhis soul now n will remain with him till his last breath. Thats y v didnt see jodha running back to amer even after his rude behavior. So just hang in ther n enjoy the freshness of watching them fall in love with each other all over again.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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skanda is there 15 yrs leap heard that the story will only focus on jodha akbar plus fans are tweeting and mailng not to bring salim anarkali track plz reply
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Gem, I hope all that venting was cathartic. That's the best wishes I can have for you at this time for you sound so down and out that my heart bleeds!



Mansi now thr is nothing left in this show..they murdered the epic love story today..even if they show ruklal love story or SA love story or take a leap of 15 yrs or 25 yrs..i dont care and dont bother..they literally killed us and our love for JA today..nothing can be done now..damage is done..it cant be fixed like before.. now i can never love this jalal nor il be able to respect him in life time..thank god real akabr was not like this.. ekta made it typical sbs story.. mere liye ab jalal zinda nahi hai..sirf jodha ke liye il watch ..how she il engage herself in business and how she aquired all titles..il watch this show only till pari aka jodha is thr in this show..baki jaye baad main.. i am prepared to see any track now..now infact i dont want to see any love track between jodha and this so called human.. since they show all shit in the name of NR...i want her to get seperated from him and lead a peaceful man..or these moron cv's introduce a good rajvanshi guy and let her get remarried to him and lead a peaceful life..neither amer clan nor agra deserves her or her love...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Mansi i liked the epi yesterday. I agree jalal was wrong in blaming jodha but it was his own guilt n belplessness which made him lash out. He has lost all those whom he has loved be it his father khan baba atgaah saheb badi ammi n now his kids. He is scared that if he loves jodha he will lose her also n the pain would be too much to bear whch he wants to avoid.
As for three yrs he says its three yrs since chittor has been granting asylum to his enemies n remember they have been doing so since before his marriage n he has been married for two yrs nw so it has just been few mnths since the kids death.
He stopped ruqqaiya n forced jodha to do tilak partly to bend her to his will n mai ly coz he cant bear to see someone elsetake her place in his life. I am happy that v got to see a fiery jalal n a fiery jodha who is although sad but not broken n still stood up for what she believed in.
Mansi this is one story where v know that they will b back together. It will b interesting to see how n when. I think ruqqaiya will not b punshed for kids death but might try to harm jodha out of jealousy or rage n get caught n this in turn also might bring jalal n jodha closer.
Mansi just remember that jalal cannot seperate jodha from his wajood even if he manages to kill his dil as she is a part ofhis soul now n will remain with him till his last breath. Thats y v didnt see jodha running back to amer even after his rude behavior. So just hang in ther n enjoy the freshness of watching them fall in love with each other all over again.

Thanks for the very positive attitude Vinita. I expected all posts today to be sad and mournful but now and then I see a post like yours and see bright sparks of positive interpretation everywhere! God bless!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bsowmyashree

skanda is there 15 yrs leap heard that the story will only focus on jodha akbar plus fans are tweeting and mailng not to bring salim anarkali track plz reply

I have no idea dear, as I am not part of the Creative Team. Like everyone else I too am waiting to see the outcome!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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brilliant write up mansi. somehow i m not disappoint wid this turn in the story may be because i never expect any ruqu bhandaphod wid twins death track. for me she or her bhandafod doesnt matter anymore . i watch this show only n only fo JA n i wud love to see this new face of their life if cvs wont add too much excessive masala in the storyline n give it a proper growth where we can witness their longings for each other

yes 99% there is three year leap. it will more clear with today epi. n that child wid manisha cld be mahtab (bakshi bano' child) or javeda' child.

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