Three years pass and the story leaps into ugly, miserable territory! - Page 10

Originally posted by: skanda12

This kind of unconditional love is also not good!

Originally posted by: chennaigirl

I am not going to talk about this anymore..Ekta has done what she wanted to do with no ounce of remorse or importance to the audience..She treats JA as yet another KKB or PR or one of her serials..

Now all have said whatever we all might be thinking, positive or negative...Rukaiyya , having dominated the screen and torturing us still remains as happy as ever..

Now my biggest worry is when Salim comes, Rukaiyya is going to butt in and if Ekta goes on to show her hand in bringing up Salim and sidelining Jodha, I will stop watching..Because Jalal, never once has openly admonished or threatened or even simply told Ruk , not to interfere between him and Jodha ( I don not consider the tilak scene as one..It was a custom of Rajvanshis)...

If Ruk becomes a substitute for Maham, I will give up and stop watching..There is a limit to everything.

Originally posted by: deejagi

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😆so now you have problem with Jodha's unconditional love also?

I believe true love is always unconditional but she did prove that although she loves him enough to stay n wait for him to heal n did the tilak to safegaurd him still she made it very clear that she doesnt support what he is doing. So ya unconditional love but not blind love.

Originally posted by: deejagi

Sun lovely and most needed post. Sorry I could not write more today to support the episode as I have loads of tenders to be completed today and all alone in the office.

as usual wonderful take di👏

i forgot abt ruks exposure she is suprme👏.. jalal shouldn't blame jodha for the kids death😡
she's the mother for heaven's sake.😡
whatever happened that night they were both in it together, she wasn't going and neither was he letting her go(after they begun)😡...its not like there was announcement that the kids were going to be poisoned
jodha too should take it easy on herself,it is what you make it...considering oneself to be at fault is enough to feed an accusation and make it real in the eyes of everyone.😭😭

it seems like jalal tried to keep his cool but his grief built up and became a bundle of anger that is just looking to get out,hence he's on his last nerves.
he took it out not only on jodha,but ruks,his court and now the war...i hate jalal coz he blamed jodha😡

bt if this is cruel jalal so after returning from war he should go straight to ruqu..like before...i want this to happen...

I am glad n want to congratulate salima👏 for shutting Ruqs mouth😡. That put a stop to her mourning drama, in fact she is directly to be accussed of HH death. Her ego!!.😡

I didn't expect Jalal to give such her nasty remark to Jodha😡, even if he had condemn his love for her then it would not have hurt her so much. They r equally in it n to take on Jodha so bluntly is cruel. Saying that she neglected her duty for her son😡😡😡.

We know Jalal is too broken inside n hurt so much but he forgot Jodha suffers too.😭 The way he turn and pull the curtain was rude n showing that he is shutting Jodha out of his life🥺. itz cleared now jalal doesnt love jodha anymore..coz he said he has no dil means NO jodha👏🤢 Jodha is stunned with these behaviour😭 but helpless n just carry the burden of losing her son n on top of it the pain of accusation from her love🤢. That was too much for her. She is a strong woman n will find a way out.

Jalal seem not to understand that being cruel,harsh, ruthless means he don't have a heart. He think Jo's love has changed him to have a heart. He fail to c that he himself has realised he has a heart 😳

Jodha didn't force on him. He change because he want to😳. Because he has a heart that y he feels the pain, grieve on loss of his sons. He don't know how to get it out because this time Jodha whom he also go to for comfort is now seen as the contributor of his pain. He knows his change is hurting Jodha perhaps that wat he wants, to hurt his heart/love.i e jodha😒

Jodha character has always been consistent, she c wrong she is bold to confront. Her blood on the sword will answer his anger👏. may be not sure The distance between them some how will bring a stronger bond of trust in them.
Today I felt more for Jodha😭 than Jalal😡i dont think there is 3 years leap..zee man told abt it now itz confirmed😳..plz mansi di dont say abt SA track...i dont want to see dt crap

ruthless jalal is back..i will never understand how people can be so cruel & do things to purposely hurt someone. is that how you would like to be treated my dear🤔?now jalal is also going for war to hurt ppls who r innocent...i read somewhere cause of this war many rajwanshi ladies commited jauhar ..hard but sometimes some people are hard to forgive, but I do try to understand why they are so cruel and than just try to feel compassionate for them because something is deeply wrong.but whats wrong with jalal..he is going to punish innocent ppl..it was his relatives naa they had snatched babies n u will punish rajwanshi ppl for nothing😡just hate u jalal..jodha can u forgive this jalal..??acc to jo's nature i think NO ..n i want jodha will hate jalal like before..

bt if this is cruel jalal so after returning from war he should go this straight to ruqu..like before spent night with ur real love ruqu jalal only deserves ruqu n his other begums x y z...n plz jalal completely ignore jodha..u have many begums...n i want jodha should go to her ghrina mode...,wil hate n stay away from that jallad i really want this to happen..😉

i would like to hear ghrina from her mouth after a long time😉coz when she says ghrina it was like music to my ears so soothing😆it is completely NR then i want a rajwanshi handsome hunk come for jodha..n take her away from pagalkhana n dt cruel jalal.. jodha needs a loyal husband who will support understand her n stand beside her in her happiness n sorrow..i really want this now..

Pls mansi call zee and do long convo plsss confirm abt leaps and ruqs bhandaphod pls

Very good take, Mansi... and superb positivity as usual...

yest, when we talked abt it and u told me there is nothing in soul talks that shows leap of three years... and now as that zee man told u that it's just few weeks leap, then be sure zee ppl r lying again... it may not be 3 yrs leap, but it's surely a leap of few months or one year... coz if u remember before that 4 months leap, there was a scene where TM is sent to talk to Udaysing and MP not to give shelter to Jalal's enemies and that Jalal would like to have a word with them as for him war will be last option...

this msg from Jalal was ard the time of MA death , and so if considered the leap and then kids birth and death, and now Jalal's talk of 3 years wasted in giving time to MP and co, then we can say leap is of one and half to 2 years...

now there is one very interesting thing u seem to have missed... there was a pic from zee... and somebody has posted it even on forum... the pic was of AkDha in same frame, but the words were something that made me think for a while... it said, that, a woman may not be able to change a man when she starts loving him, but , a man definitely changes himself when he starts loving somebody... this line explains future track... and that track is Jalal - Jo 's old equation of relationship back in this phase of their life... hate-hate and hate-love...

yest's episode made sure that both love eachother deeply... but while Jo has herself completely in control, Jalal is exactly opposite... both of them hold themselves responsible for twins death, but Jo is ready to take that responsibility openly and this shows the extreme strength she posses.. whereas Jalal's behavior was completely unexpected... it felt like he was finding the first chance to throw the guilt he felt for kids death, to somebody else's shoulders... and so when Jo didn't reply him for the accusation he put on her, he grabbed that moment to put that blame on her...

he very conveniently banned her from his life... somebody said that his behavior was out of fear of losing her... that he fears that he loses everybody whom he loves... and he doesn't want to lose Jo, so he felt it's better to keep her away from him, and so he banned her from his life... but i felt it differently...it's not fear, that made him push her away from him... it was his even bigger guilt that he is being coward in putting blame on her shoulders when the both were equal partners in whatever happened... that was his hatred towards himself, that when she needs him the most, when she needs his strength, it's actually opposite and that it's her who is showing the extreme strength, and not him... it's his shame for being weak , by running away from the responsibility and blaming Jo conveniently , that has raised his anger even more... and that guilt, that shame and that anger is making him push her to such extent , that will be her testing of her strength... coz right now if she breaks , he will be shattered...

he very well knows, now when she loves him, then she will never hate him like before... and he even knows, that when he will finally get rid of his anger, and guilt, there can be more shame on his name and hatred from everybody else, that will surely break him down... and if anybody can become his strength then, then it can be only Jo... i felt he was testing that strength of her... coz just a slight weakness shown from Jo, and it won't take a moment longer for Jalal to break right there...

what an understanding of eachother's heart... they proved it again... the one u hate more is the one u love more... only that person can ever rule ur heart coz they don't stay closest to ur heart but they stay right in ur heart... and so let them hate eachother , their love will never let them get totally seperated from eachother...

and if like i said above (the line in bold), then after the cruelty of this war, Jo will surely start giving Jalal cold shoulder after his return, and may be for some time we may get to see old Jodha and her famous 'Ghrina' mode back, and that will again mark the need for Jalal to change from Jallad to Akbar to win his ladylove back forever... so let's wait for this to happen..

Originally posted by: hely

as usual wonderful take di👏

i forgot abt ruks exposure she is suprme👏.. jalal shouldn't blame jodha for the kids death😡
she's the mother for heaven's sake.😡
whatever happened that night they were both in it together, she wasn't going and neither was he letting her go(after they begun)😡...its not like there was announcement that the kids were going to be poisoned
jodha too should take it easy on herself,it is what you make it...considering oneself to be at fault is enough to feed an accusation and make it real in the eyes of everyone.😭😭

it seems like jalal tried to keep his cool but his grief built up and became a bundle of anger that is just looking to get out,hence he's on his last nerves.
he took it out not only on jodha,but ruks,his court and now the war...i hate jalal coz he blamed jodha😡

bt if this is cruel jalal so after returning from war he should go straight to ruqu..like before...i want this to happen...

I am glad n want to congratulate salima👏 for shutting Ruqs mouth😡. That put a stop to her mourning drama, in fact she is directly to be accussed of HH death. Her ego!!.😡

I didn't expect Jalal to give such her nasty remark to Jodha😡, even if he had condemn his love for her then it would not have hurt her so much. They r equally in it n to take on Jodha so bluntly is cruel. Saying that she neglected her duty for her son😡😡😡.

We know Jalal is too broken inside n hurt so much but he forgot Jodha suffers too.😭 The way he turn and pull the curtain was rude n showing that he is shutting Jodha out of his life🥺. itz cleared now jalal doesnt love jodha anymore..coz he said he has no dil means NO jodha👏🤢 Jodha is stunned with these behaviour😭 but helpless n just carry the burden of losing her son n on top of it the pain of accusation from her love🤢. That was too much for her. She is a strong woman n will find a way out.

Jalal seem not to understand that being cruel,harsh, ruthless means he don't have a heart. He think Jo's love has changed him to have a heart. He fail to c that he himself has realised he has a heart 😳

Jodha didn't force on him. He change because he want to😳. Because he has a heart that y he feels the pain, grieve on loss of his sons. He don't know how to get it out because this time Jodha whom he also go to for comfort is now seen as the contributor of his pain. He knows his change is hurting Jodha perhaps that wat he wants, to hurt his heart/love.i e jodha😒

Jodha character has always been consistent, she c wrong she is bold to confront. Her blood on the sword will answer his anger👏. may be not sure The distance between them some how will bring a stronger bond of trust in them.
Today I felt more for Jodha😭 than Jalal😡i dont think there is 3 years leap..zee man told abt it now itz confirmed😳..plz mansi di dont say abt SA track...i dont want to see dt crap

ruthless jalal is back..i will never understand how people can be so cruel & do things to purposely hurt someone. is that how you would like to be treated my dear🤔?now jalal is also going for war to hurt ppls who r innocent...i read somewhere cause of this war many rajwanshi ladies commited jauhar ..hard but sometimes some people are hard to forgive, but I do try to understand why they are so cruel and than just try to feel compassionate for them because something is deeply wrong.but whats wrong with jalal..he is going to punish innocent ppl..it was his relatives naa they had snatched babies n u will punish rajwanshi ppl for nothing😡just hate u jalal..jodha can u forgive this jalal..??acc to jo's nature i think NO ..n i want jodha will hate jalal like before..

bt if this is cruel jalal so after returning from war he should go this straight to ruqu..like before spent night with ur real love ruqu jalal only deserves ruqu n his other begums x y z...n plz jalal completely ignore jodha..u have many begums...n i want jodha should go to her ghrina mode...,wil hate n stay away from that jallad i really want this to happen..😉

i would like to hear ghrina from her mouth after a long time😉coz when she says ghrina it was like music to my ears so soothing😆it is completely NR then i want a rajwanshi handsome hunk come for jodha..n take her away from pagalkhana n dt cruel jalal.. jodha needs a loyal husband who will support understand her n stand beside her in her happiness n sorrow..i really want this now..

I must say mansi ILOVEU thank you for calling zee hopefully this time that r not lying

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Very good take, Mansi... and superb positivity as usual...

yest, when we talked abt it and u told me there is nothing in soul talks that shows leap of three years... and now as that zee man told u that it's just few weeks leap, then be sure zee ppl r lying again... it may not be 3 yrs leap, but it's surely a leap of few months or one year... coz if u remember before that 4 months leap, there was a scene where TM is sent to talk to Udaysing and MP not to give shelter to Jalal's enemies and that Jalal would like to have a word with them as for him war will be last option...

this msg from Jalal was ard the time of MA death , and so if considered the leap and then kids birth and death, and now Jalal's talk of 3 years wasted in giving time to MP and co, then we can say leap is of one and half to 2 years...

now there is one very interesting thing u seem to have missed... there was a pic from zee... and somebody has posted it even on forum... the pic was of AkDha in same frame, but the words were something that made me think for a while... it said, that, a woman may not be able to change a man when she starts loving him, but , a man definitely changes himself when he starts loving somebody... this line explains future track... and that track is Jalal - Jo 's old equation of relationship back in this phase of their life... hate-hate and hate-love...

yest's episode made sure that both love eachother deeply... but while Jo has herself completely in control, Jalal is exactly opposite... both of them hold themselves responsible for twins death, but Jo is ready to take that responsibility openly and this shows the extreme strength she posses.. whereas Jalal's behavior was completely unexpected... it felt like he was finding the first chance to throw the guilt he felt for kids death, to somebody else's shoulders... and so when Jo didn't reply him for the accusation he put on her, he grabbed that moment to put that blame on her...

he very conveniently banned her from his life... somebody said that his behavior was out of fear of losing her... that he fears that he loses everybody whom he loves... and he doesn't want to lose Jo, so he felt it's better to keep her away from him, and so he banned her from his life... but i felt it differently...it's not fear, that made him push her away from him... it was his even bigger guilt that he is being coward in putting blame on her shoulders when the both were equal partners in whatever happened... that was his hatred towards himself, that when she needs him the most, when she needs his strength, it's actually opposite and that it's her who is showing the extreme strength, and not him... it's his shame for being weak , by running away from the responsibility and blaming Jo conveniently , that has raised his anger even more... and that guilt, that shame and that anger is making him push her to such extent , that will be her testing of her strength... coz right now if she breaks , he will be shattered...

he very well knows, now when she loves him, then she will never hate him like before... and he even knows, that when he will finally get rid of his anger, and guilt, there can be more shame on his name and hatred from everybody else, that will surely break him down... and if anybody can become his strength then, then it can be only Jo... i felt he was testing that strength of her... coz just a slight weakness shown from Jo, and it won't take a moment longer for Jalal to break right there...

what an understanding of eachother's heart... they proved it again... the one u hate more is the one u love more... only that person can ever rule ur heart coz they don't stay closest to ur heart but they stay right in ur heart... and so let them hate eachother , their love will never let them get totally seperated from eachother...

and if like i said above (the line in bold), then after the cruelty of this war, Jo will surely start giving Jalal cold shoulder after his return, and may be for some time we may get to see old Jodha and her famous 'Ghrina' mode back, and that will again mark the need for Jalal to change from Jallad to Akbar to win his ladylove back forever... so let's wait for this to happen..