Mohabbat aur Dard - Page 9

Originally posted by: Gem12

[BR][BR]thr love became strong..but blaming ur own love and mother of ur kids as murderer and seperating..wat kind of justice is this jiya..today he failed as a husband and as a lover and as a father too...ofcourse as a king too[BR]

Here i m just post my feelings n pov on tamy's post n i m nt oppose anyone's pov here just express my view if my post hurt u n anyone toh i m sorry for that...

Originally posted by: tamy267

</div><div>nahi Preet...no leap..they r hinting the change in JA today.

his twitter and fb auggestin leap and bo parijat

Originally posted by: Neetz

Jalal said no it's been 3 years that he has been trying to make Rajvanshis understand and now chitter will be his. It could be referring to the time from before his wedding to Jodha till now though it hasn't been three years yet or actually 3 years have passed because then only will it be the time of Chittor siege. If leap has taken place, CVs have conveniently ignored the two kids born to Jo and Ja after HH. They may have botched up the dates again as per their convenience.🤢

CVs are showing the relationship of Jo and Ja after twins demise as completely opposite than what it actually was.

You're right about passion though. Tilak scene was fab but precap 😕

Originally posted by: preetgurti

his twitter and fb auggestin leap and bo parijat

Originally posted by: tamy267

dont we blame our parents? our loved ones? does that mean we dont love them?

we hurl harsh words only to them whom we love.

does Jalal's harsh words negate all his love?

put urself in his shoes and try to understand in which context he said those.

even Jodha understands him!

i agree he is pain..but y such discrimination..such treatment to only jodha..wen the main culprit remained un punished..wat was jodha's mistake..he is in pain that doesnt mean he can shift all the blame on ur loved ones..okay..he blamed her to reduce his pain..but cant he see her pain..three yrs passed away..he seperated her from his life... punished her with out any fault... wen his relatives killed hussain wat jodha can do.. if not today hussain has to die..he is destined to die..but y such treatment to only jo...we blame our parents and our loved ones..but that il be for a day or two or max one month.. but see here 3 yrs passed away...y she has to suffer for no mistake of hers... kya in teen saalo main use jodha ki dard nahi dikayi di...jalal ji kehta hai..jodha ko dukh main nahi deksakta..to ab kya wo jhoot hogaya..3 saalo main use yahi nahi dikayi di..jis dard se wo guzar raha hai usi dard se jodha bi guzar rahi hai.. 3 saalo main dhuniya badal jati hai..uski nazariya nahi badli..ki jodha chah kar bi kisi ko dukh nahi desakti.. kya uski pyaar pe itna hi vishwas hai..ki 3 saalo main use jodha ki tadap aur uske liye pyar nahi dikayi di... uski dil ko dard kum karne ke liye jodha ko dard de..aisi kya galti kardi jo use itni badi saza mili..???

in 3 saalo main wo usi baat pe hai..jab ki bina galti jodha saza mukad rahi hai

Originally posted by: lashy

Tamy beautiful post dear... I agree...

Haven't we seen how soldiers today behave when they're back from Afghanistan? From Iraq? From Kashmir?

This despite the fact that they are not fighting their own loved ones - their own families! They are fighting supposed 'enemies' Yet, the atrocities of death that they see on a daily basis leaves them scarred. Scarred for life - PTSD this is called!

Many such soldiers take months if not years to become the 'old' family men they used to be and to get merged back with their wives like one. For whatever reasons, they shut themselves out, blame themselves, blame others, blame life, hate everything, have nightmares - the list is endless.

Man is not hard-wired to be murderer at morning and be a happy caring family man at night. There are very few who can carry such a role forever without breaking down!

Today, Jalal reached his breaking point!

Here, Jalal is facing treachery after treachery from his own.

Just when he thought he was done with his cousin sister's treachery

he faced step mother MC

That hasn't been resolved yet and he fought adopted brother Adham

That came after the assassination of Atgah his guardian-father

Following that his beloved Badi Ammijaan died - but not without cursing his sons first

Plus, Ruqaiyya has always been so undependable!

Now treachery took away his sons too.

While Jodha has had the unimaginable tragedy of dealing with the last one - Jalal has the combined tragedy of dealing with TOO much one after another.

I think this is why Jodha has understood him now - she's understood how it feels to be cheated by one's own family. And how much it must pain. (I sincerely hope Jodha never forgives Ruqaiyya after this - and nor does Jalal!)

If Jodha takes time off to grieve, her life stops functioning. Mothi Bai's life stops. Some of the harem-life stops.

If Jalal takes time and shuts himself, the Sultanat stops functioning.

Also, I don't see how Jalal could have done the Chittor atrocities at morning and managed to meet eyes with Jodha at night - she reminds him of everything beautiful in life. Everything calm. Everything sweet.

Now, Jalal doesn't want to see the beauty in life. He is not calm. He can't be sweet. There has to be a brief separation. Like Shiva taking on another Roop whenever he had to face/defeat the demons! A roop that even Shakthi couldn't tolerate.

His 'blaming' Jodha or whatever everyone seems to think was a reckless outburst. Which I am sure he is the LAST ONE TO BELIEVE. If he can't be of support to her now, it's better he's away from her so he doesn't hurt her with words he does not mean.

She will/has understood him because she has seen him suffer so much for months and months on end - one after another! Thankfully, in Jodha's own household the worst treachery that she has faced is restricted upto Sujamal's case and even that they've shown resolved amicably so far (for whatever reason) I guess that's why she's able to face such adversity better. She hasn't been so scarred by loved ones! She's had a better bringing-up and a better foundation in life - so, her belief in 'the beauty' of life is still intact. His has totally been shattered for now

Repeated treachery from people you consider your own does that to people!

Originally posted by: lashy

Tamy beautiful post dear... I agree...

Haven't we seen how soldiers today behave when they're back from Afghanistan? From Iraq? From Kashmir?

This despite the fact that they are not fighting their own loved ones - their own families! They are fighting supposed 'enemies' Yet, the atrocities of death that they see on a daily basis leaves them scarred. Scarred for life - PTSD this is called!

Many such soldiers take months if not years to become the 'old' family men they used to be and to get merged back with their wives like one. For whatever reasons, they shut themselves out, blame themselves, blame others, blame life, hate everything, have nightmares - the list is endless.

Man is not hard-wired to be murderer at morning and be a happy caring family man at night. There are very few who can carry such a role forever without breaking down!

Today, Jalal reached his breaking point!

Here, Jalal is facing treachery after treachery from his own.

Just when he thought he was done with his cousin sister's treachery

he faced step mother MC

That hasn't been resolved yet and he fought adopted brother Adham

That came after the assassination of Atgah his guardian-father

Following that his beloved Badi Ammijaan died - but not without cursing his sons first

Plus, Ruqaiyya has always been so undependable!

Now treachery took away his sons too.

While Jodha has had the unimaginable tragedy of dealing with the last one - Jalal has the combined tragedy of dealing with TOO much one after another.

I think this is why Jodha has understood him now - she's understood how it feels to be cheated by one's own family. And how much it must pain. (I sincerely hope Jodha never forgives Ruqaiyya after this - and nor does Jalal!)

If Jodha takes time off to grieve, her life stops functioning. Mothi Bai's life stops. Some of the harem-life stops.

If Jalal takes time and shuts himself, the Sultanat stops functioning.

Also, I don't see how Jalal could have done the Chittor atrocities at morning and managed to meet eyes with Jodha at night - she reminds him of everything beautiful in life. Everything calm. Everything sweet.

Now, Jalal doesn't want to see the beauty in life. He is not calm. He can't be sweet. There has to be a brief separation. Like Shiva taking on another Roop whenever he had to face/defeat the demons! A roop that even Shakthi couldn't tolerate.

His 'blaming' Jodha or whatever everyone seems to think was a reckless outburst. Which I am sure he is the LAST ONE TO BELIEVE. If he can't be of support to her now, it's better he's away from her so he doesn't hurt her with words he does not mean.

She will/has understood him because she has seen him suffer so much for months and months on end - one after another! Thankfully, in Jodha's own household the worst treachery that she has faced is restricted upto Sujamal's case and even that they've shown resolved amicably so far (for whatever reason) I guess that's why she's able to face such adversity better. She hasn't been so scarred by loved ones! She's had a better bringing-up and a better foundation in life - so, her belief in 'the beauty' of life is still intact. His has totally been shattered for now

Repeated treachery from people you consider your own does that to people!

well written lashy

Agree with u 2 !! Jalal is ignoring his love Jodha bt jab uska man shant hoga he vill surely come bak n heal his n hers pain !

Tamy my dear u stole my heart today with your post! So apt and well said..I too think that after the chittor massacre things will be back to normal between the two as a marshmellow cannot be shown doing massacre of chittor it has to be a heartless person doing it...after this I think it will be path of spirituality and then salim with rest of history said on a VO...but tamy thank god jodha is not pregnant otherwise we would have missed a third sr before salim...lol

Originally posted by: tamy267

oh that 3 saal? I guess its before their marriage also...not from 1564 to 3 yrs.

waise Chittor War happened in 1567..in that way 3 yrs literally passed😕

Fatima was born before the war...can CVs show her after the war? they can do anything with NR😉

I want to see Fatima badly

Tamy ,the three years are counting from pre-wedding period. Sammy just told me that Zee uploaded today's epi and it the synopsis says 'few days' passed..so no leap.. Lets all take a breather now..😆