JA Oct 7 2014 | Elegy for Hasan, Oct10 Abhay Updt P18, Call to Zee P24 - Page 4

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi akka...

Your writhing is very beautiful and also Abhay's.

Thanks, Purani! You write beautifully too.😊

I read it in morning and it made almost to tears. Since then I waited for the library to empty to watch, so I'm going to cry. And finally watched and having headache.

Yesterday's episode was emotionally very draining.

The acting was very real. I dont know how real JJ must have felt the pain...it did not happen once but destiny made them go through it many time.

Loosing someone very dear, very close is very very painful. Even if you let go or accept it and move on, the feel, the memories, the gone future will just comes back every time you are reminded of the person. And the mind and heart will search something of the person in everything.

Agree, well expressed..

When loose the person, you will question the god and why this injustice. I dont have the answer either. But the continuance of believing Him is what will drive through.

We all question God when we perceive injustice. Those who are a notch above the rest move beyond questioning and start accepting that God is wiser and knows better and there must be something good hidden in everything He does, even if it is not immediately visible to us. The acceptance of one's grief, one's destiny is crucial for us to be at peace with ourselves and the world at large. It propels us forward on a trajectory of personal growth and prepares us to unquestioningly accept the future as God's gift. Being the wisest of all of God's creatures, we owe it to ourselves to use this wisdom for our spiritual growth and for attaining true happiness.

I want to see how JJ were able to come out of this darkness and become normal again and what strengthened their belief in God again. I just hope their journey is actually shown and it's not that suddenly one day, they start acting normal again and start praying to God again, as if nothing had happened.

JJ have each others love and it was so beautifully shown and it was shining brightly. Jalal also must let out his pain, if not with Jodha but atleast with his mother.

Yes, you are right that Jalal must also purge his pain and grief. May be in the process of healing Jodha, he is himself getting healed too. His extreme love for her may be acting as the balm that heals him too.

I am relieved to see Hamida and Slaima lending their unstinted support to JJ. Man Singh also deserves special mention for standing by his buasa and Shahenshah. But where are Bharmal and Mainavati? This mother is one strange person who cannot be with Jodha either in her happiness or sorrow.




Purani,

Thanks for a wonderful post! It's always inspiring to read you. 😊

Replied to your former post on previous page.
Edited by RadhikaS0 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Radhika this was one of the most heartbreaking episode in JA til now... Paridhi and rajat were awesme and clap worthy .. wat a stellar performance especially I loved paridhi she squeezed my heart one more time and I cudnt stop my tears... She perfectly emoted mother feelings and Maham adham death scene is nothing infront of yday jo hassan death scene... Jo outshined Maham in showin emotions so well and it's heartwrenching... I'm short of words to praise this beautiful couple who wil not fail in making a scene so real.. They r like real couple who lost child... They involved in it so much that I got goosebumps in watching their breathtaking performance...

Among JA cast thunderous performance is done by rajat and ashwini til now... But paridhi in this track outshined ashwini and I'm feeling so proud to b parijat fan... Yday akdha emoted lots of emotions in single epsiode... Loved epsiode so much bcz of their acting... I can't describe one scene whole epsiode can b written pages and pages... JJ r truly soulmates and I'm falling in love with them again and again...

Salute to paridhi and rajat for this wonderful acting today...I cried more than yday...
Truly talented parijat I'm speechless today ... Love pain evrythng was shown perfectly... I cannot forget this episode and yday...

Jo asked valid ques that she dimt harm anyone then y she got this? Loved entire epsiode that I dint notice wen it got ended... 30 mins went so quick...

Starting scene pari was awesme she portrayed all shades... First she cudnt beleive that hassan is dead then she pleaded shehenshah to give hassan life who can give anythng ... She wants to see his face for last time... Rt was awesme with the pain and trying to console jo ...

Nxt scene their love wen jo said that God shud hv taken her life instead of hassan... And Jallu says he can't live without jo and he wud die... Wat an awesme scene... Their love for each other is eternal... Taking away paalna is sad scebe

Jo pleading him to see Hassan last rituals and Jallu taking hassan dead body and the way jo cried with her heart poring out... she is angry on kanha as he has taken away light of her life... Jo is in mental trauma and in precap she went to ruk room and takes hussain but that bloody ruk takes away hussain from her...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

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Radhika,

This post of yours is a masterpiece. I do not possess the audacity to match your words.

Thanks! You have the ability to surpass all words with your writing that leaves nothing - no nuance, no expression, no feeling - untouched. This post is again an exquisite example of your soul-felt writing and your extreme passion for Jodha Akbar.

Absolutely Phenomenal Performance by the Leads.!!!.
What an Episode it was.. I would recommend to all the friends here, watch the episode..

Definitely! Totally "real" as if we were watching them from behind gossamer curtains, unknown and unseen, while they lived their lives. 👏

Tell me what was Missing.?. >>

Memories
Broken hearts
Tear-stained faces
Grief
Sadness
Regret
Guilt
Depression
Heart-Break
Rage
Sadness
Despair
Collapse
Console
Lost
Drifting
Helplessness
Vulnerability
Anger
Resent
Fraught
Denial
And what not.?.


Watch it NOT ONLY for RT and PS..

Today watch the episode for Jodha Akbar.

Amidst all the NR which we are fed up of, i am pretty sure, the scenes we saw today must have been replicated in the Fort of Agra .!!!

Didn't we all feel a Tsunami of Humanistic Feelings.?.
Didn't we all get all those emotionS one could think of, in such a setting.?.


" The rush of arrows and the clash of swords,
Tore the marrow of elephants and the entrails of tigers. "

^^^^^^ These lines "be-jewel" the capability of Shahenshah-e-Hind Jalal-ud-din Mohammed Akbar...Can we think of the man who had the ENTIRE Hindustan at HIS Feet, but was helpless.?. The Man who Proclaimed that he can write(and he DID) the destiny with HIS Sword, was a spectator before the Decree of God..!!!.

Agree completely. I have also mentioned in one of my posts here how God can bring anyone - even an emperor - to his knees and strip him of all ego. Really, Hindustan ka Shahenshah Do Jahan ke Shahenshah ke aage kuch bhi nahin...

Coming to Jodha. She was so much broken today, that she even said, why God took Hasan and why not her.?. I can not think of better lines by Ghalib , to describe this moment :>

Urdu

Koi ummid bar nahin aati
Koi surat nazar nahin aati

Maut ka ek din mu'ayyana hai
Nind kyon raat bhar nahin aati

Aage aati thi hal-e-dil pe hansi
Ab kisi baat par nahin aati

Jaanata hun savab-e-ta'at-o-zahad
Par tabiyat idhar nahin aati

Hai kuch aisi hi bat jo chup hun
Varna kya baat kar nahin aati

Kyon na chikhun ki yad karate hain
Merii aavaaz gar nahin aati

Daag-e-dilagarnazar nahin aata
Bu bhi ai chaaraagar nahin aati

Ham vahan hain jahan se ham ko bhi
Kuch hamari Khabar nahin aati

Marte hain aarazuu mein marne ki
Maut aati hai par nahin aati


English Translation

I am left with no hope at all,
No possibility to reach my goal,

The Day of my death is fixed,
I can not sleep all night.

Then, the state(s) of my heart which used to make me laugh
Now it (laughter) doesn't come for anything.

Though I know the reward of obedience and worship,
But I have no tendency for it.

I am silent for a certain reason,
Otherwise I can convince you with my words,

Why I shouldn't cry,
For when I don't, she asks about me,

My heart is burning, though you cannot see the spot,
But O my doctor, can't you smell my heart burn?

I have reached to a certain state,
From where even I cannot find myself.

I am dying (Waiting anxiously) for my death,
I don't know where my death has gone.

Thanks for the translation 😊...Beautiful and apt verse...There comes a stage in one's life when the body feels like dead weight and the soul yearns to be freed from this "corpse" but there's no deliverance. The soul must find in its depths the life-giving elixir that will enliven the "corpse" and give it a purpose and direction. It's as if God tells us that our work on earth is not yet complete and we must strive ahead, irrespective of however broken we may be.

Can we imagine the plight of Akbar - HK.?.
How it feels for a father to carry his "ANSH" {as Jodha says it}, to the graveyard.?.
The face of Jodha and Akbar displayed a 1000 shades today, each more subtle than the other.

True, we cannot even begin to fathom this. I hate to say this here, but, it must have been experiences such as this that awakened the human in Jalal / Akbar. Only when a man carries the corpse of his own son can he understand what it must mean to another father to carry the corpse of someone he (Jalal) has killed. We wonder why he was so forgiving of his worst enemies. How could he be otherwise after having buried his own children?

Only people who are capable of loving strongly can suffer great sorrow, but this same necessity of loving serves to counteract their grief and heals them. Today Jalal was playing the same role for Jodha.

Again I mentioned the same thing in an earlier post that Jalal's love and concern for Jodha healed his own grief for Hasan.
Having said this, i also want to add that, the grief always remains there.. It has been said time heals all wounds. I differ a bit here.. The wounds remain. In time, the mind protecting it's sanity covers them and the pain lessens, but it's never gone."

Someone else also mentioned how the memories always remain and how everything reminds us of those we lost in some way. A small piece of the heart will always be missing, the part that died along with the one we loved and lost.

"Agar kuch hota hai to woh yeh ki, Waqt ke saath us dukh ki "Kashish" "kam" ho jaati hai, par wo "kashish" kabhi "khatm" nahi hoti, woh kayamat tak aapke saath rehti hai.". We can wipe the tears from our eyes, but we can not wipe the pain from our heart.

Beautiful...I wanted to write a short reply 😊 but these lines ^^^ stopped me and urged me to reply to each word, for so much has been said here and left unsaid that a common reply will never do justice to it all.

I admit that i do not shed tears easily, but this episode brought me "almost on the verge" of shedding them. The scene looked so original. It was "saddingly ethereal" . I agree with you that neither can we compare the grief of the parents nor can we say who suffered more..When your fear touches someone's pain, it becomes pity, when your love touches someone's pain, it become compassion..

Did we notice this today.?. Did we notice Jalal's Love being converting into compassion for Jodha. He was very much present with her so that she no longer wrestles with the grief, but could sit down with it as a lasting companion(Jalal) and make it a sharer in her thoughts.

They say that the darkest night produces the brightest stars. In my view, the story becomes EPIC by such poignant display of emotions. I have heard that even a hundredfold grief is divisible by love.

I agree. Jalal's love brought more tears to my eyes than even Hasan passing away. This is what epic love stories are made of. This is what makes some love stories unforgettable.

Your partner complements you. While Jodha was with Jalal as his pillar, after he was broken hearing MA's crude words to THEIR unborn sons. Today, it was Jalal who played the same role for Jodha. Tears shed for someone are not a sign of weakness. They are a sign of a pure heart. Jalal and Jodha BOTH have went through the phase.

What can i say about Jalal. The "MAN" in him was very much present there, as a shield for Jodha. Apart from this i would request all not to judge the bereaved mother today. She lost the most beautiful thing she could keep in her heart.

NOW,

She is breathing, but she is dying.
She may look young, but inside she has turned old.
She may smile, but her heart sobs.
She may walk, may talk, may work. She is, but she is not, all at once.
She is here, but part of her is elsewhere for 'eternity' ."

But at least part of her is here thanks to the love of her husband. Or how much more bleak and forlorn would life have seemed to her?

^^^ Above lines are so touching. How many even consider it worth their time to consider a woman could be in grief and need someone to be there to comfort and heal her? A woman is always symbolised as the giver. But how can she go on giving without receiving anything...she too needs to be nurtured from time to time, so that she is able to give again.

RIP -||- Akbar and Harka Bai..

You both were NOT supposed to meet, but you MET..And,
You scripted the "UNscriptable script"...!!!..!!!...I can't ADD more here.!. TODAY, I feel short of words..

Legends like this keep one's faith in love going and show us what we are capable of being, if we only wish to be something more. Yesterday, I fell in love with Jodha Akbar again, which was really needed after the manner in which the CVs kept butchering these two in the name of NR. The Atifa/Khyber track was the lowest point. Yesterday was...I won't say highest...because I want to see their love rising still higher. 😊


Thanks for showing us the magic of the legends called Jodha and Akbar and for keeping our faith in this show going. 👏 I feel privileged to have see them together through happiness and sorrow.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Everyone,
Have been reading everyone's posts ... each one is even more touching than the others! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and feelings... feel blessed to learn from you all about love, life and relationships. 🤗

I am sorry I am not able to reply as quickly as I should. But please do not think I have not read your post or liked it. I love each and every post, even the ones that disagree with me because it only gives me a chance to learn another way of looking at the same situation/ person. 😊

Each one of you will hear from me, that's what I try for.

All of you have expressed your appreciation for Paridhi and Rajat as Jodha and Akbar, esp in recent episodes. I fully agree with all of you. They have brought the legends and their epic love story alive for us. It's almost like getting ringside seats to Jodha and Akbar's life story.

I do not wish to take away anything from these superlative actors.

But I also wish to thank the CVs, the PH and Ekta, having trounced them badly in just my previous writeup. They may usually bumble and stumble their way ahead. But once in a while, they do succeed in spinning a magical web of legendary love and heart-wrenching emotions that leave us all spell-bound and restore our faith in both the real love story as well as the NR/show. 👏
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Grief fills the room up of my absent child,
Lies in his bed, walks up and down with me,
Puts on his pretty look, repeats his words,
Remembers me of his gracious parts,
Stuffs out his vacant garments with his form.
----- William Shakespeare

@Radhika and Abhay...⭐️


Your posts were UNSURPASSED !!!👏


Mashallah ! I don't think that I can write anything much as our members have covered all points...Kudos to everyone...Beautiful !! 😊


No farewell words were spoken, no time to say goodbye. You were gone before we knew it, and only God knows why.

I felt a sting in my heart when I saw Hassan, leaving away his parents, and completed his journey to reach the Almighty...Sweet little flower of heavenly birth, you were too fair to bloom on earth.😭

"Tiny Angel, can you tell me why you have gone away? You weren't here for very long... why is it you couldn't stay?"

Tiny Angel shook his head: "These things I do not know... But I do know that you love me, and that I love you so."


The moment is that when parents exactly feel that their life is complete when they see their children, full of life, joy and happiness...The death of their child,their JIGAR KA TUKDA is something which is really shattering(may be this is not an apt word for their loss😕)...May God provide them solace...

The death of a baby is like a stone cast into the stillness of a quiet pool; the concentric ripples of despair sweep out in all directions, affecting many, many people. ---- John DeFrain.


There is, I am convinced, no picture that conveys in all its dreadfulness, a vision of sorrow, despairing, remediless, supreme. If I could paint such a picture, the canvas would show only a woman looking down at her empty arms. ----Charlotte Bront


While words can never fully express how much someone means to us, language can still provide comfort, solace, hope and even inspiration following the death of a loved one.

I was just feeling really bad for the FATHER in Jalal,because he himself badly needed someone to share his grief, to wash away his pain and to find solace...He badly wanted to mourn like Jodha but alas, he had to be strong, suppressing his emotions and feelings.He had to be a STRONG Father who had to do the ANTIM SANSKAAR and a STRONG SHEHENSHAH(outside) who must be stoic like a MOUNTAIN for his people(even though he has broken from inside).He had to become the SOLACE GIVER AND SEEKER, as he had to take care of Jodha, as she was broken beyond repair...and was even wishfully thinking...that "Kaash Bhagwaan ne hamaare santaan ke sthaan par hume utha liya hota"
😭

I would just like to give a piece of solace to Jodha---

Think of your child, then, not as dead, but as living; not as a flower that has withered, but as one that is transplanted, and touched by a Divine hand, is blooming in richer colors and sweeter shades than those of earth.

Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable... Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.

Indeed Jalal was right in saying that "Yeh sab ek bahut lambi aur kaali raat hai Jodha Begum, Kal ka Suraj aayega aur phir sab kuch theek ho jayega..."
This reminds me of a song---
"Raah Pe Kante Bikhre agar,
Uspe to phir bhi chalna hi hai,
Shaam Chhupale Suraj magar,
Raat ko ek din Dhalna hi hai,

Rut ye tal jayegi,
Himmat rang layegi,
Subha phir aayegi"


P.S: Rajat and Paridhi, you guys, Have a bow from me !! What a MAJESTIC piece of ACTING!!! Inn logon mein shayad bachpan se hi acting ka keeda hai, jo ab rag rag mein bas gaya hai 👏

P.P.S: Skipping today's episode as I don't have that much COURAGE left, after yesterday's one...The precap is OMG so much...my Jodha oh!!!!😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It was SO disgusting to watch Ruqs today. I could NOT connect with her at all.
She wants Husain NOT because she feels for him like a mother, BUT for her Power..!!!.
This POWER has made her so blind...

What kind of friend is she.?. NO..This is NOT friendship..!!!

I can see Ruqs is digging a deep well for herself..
About Jalal and Jodha ... I do not have words to explain their state at the moment...

Precap:

Jodha's grandmother(who has come to Agra) asks Husain from Ruqs, so extends her arms to take Husain away from Agra(to Amer?), but Ruqs denies it and moves back..!!!..
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Originally posted by: history_geek


It was SO disgusting to watch Ruqs today. I could NOT connect with her at all.
She wants Husain NOT because she feels for him like a mother, BUT for her Power..!!!.
This POWER has made her so blind...

What kind of friend is she.?. NO..This is NOT friendship..!!!

I can see Ruqs is digging a deep well for herself..
About Jalal and Jodha ... I do not have words to explain their state at the moment...

Precap:

Jodha's grandmother(who has come to Agra) asks Husain from Ruqs, so extends her arms to take Husain away from Agra(to Amer?), but Ruqs denies it and moves back..!!!..

Thank God for the first time I am happy for skipping a episode 🥱
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Originally posted by: history_geek


It was SO disgusting to watch Ruqs today. I could NOT connect with her at all.
She wants Husain NOT because she feels for him like a mother, BUT for her Power..!!!.
This POWER has made her so blind...

What kind of friend is she.?. NO..This is NOT friendship..!!!

I can see Ruqs is digging a deep well for herself..
About Jalal and Jodha ... I do not have words to explain their state at the moment...

Precap:

Jodha's grandmother(who has come to Agra) asks Husain from Ruqs, so extends her arms to take Husain away from Agra(to Amer?), but Ruqs denies it and moves back..!!!..

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Abhay, Ruk is total extreem self centerd,So connection how can happen. is she knows the meaning of friendship.

Realtionship +friendship, needed to investment, But Ruk investment is Less comparsion to Jalal.Her words were,If Duniya Kaa shanshah (Means God )will also Ask she will refuse,
is She is Full Power full Female? She can, Hold All world things Acc to her desires.



But Ruk not listened salima words, she not ready to give Little time Hussain to Jodha.

When jalal was weeping, HB secene was touchi, But Is Ruk duty was not she not wants to Give, Child Jodha, but Hussain Can help Jalal also, to come out Of Pain. When jalal will play with Hussain he will feel relax,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But self centerd, extreem.





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Originally posted by: history_geek


It was SO disgusting to watch Ruqs today. I could NOT connect with her at all.
She wants Husain NOT because she feels for him like a mother, BUT for her Power..!!!.
This POWER has made her so blind...

What kind of friend is she.?. NO..This is NOT friendship..!!!

I can see Ruqs is digging a deep well for herself..
About Jalal and Jodha ... I do not have words to explain their state at the moment...

Precap:

Jodha's grandmother(who has come to Agra) asks Husain from Ruqs, so extends her arms to take Husain away from Agra(to Amer?), but Ruqs denies it and moves back..!!!..



Very well said Abhay .

Jalal is getting to see the selfish and self centered Rukaiyya . I want her to continue exhibiting her ungenerous behavior so that Jalal's disappointment towards her turns to revulsion . Rukaiyya is treading the path of self destruction really well , she needs no help from Zeenat . Her thirst for power will reduce her to a nonentity .
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Originally posted by: history_geek


It was SO disgusting to watch Ruqs today. I could NOT connect with her at all.
She wants Husain NOT because she feels for him like a mother, BUT for her Power..!!!.
This POWER has made her so blind...

What kind of friend is she.?. NO..This is NOT friendship..!!!

I can see Ruqs is digging a deep well for herself..
About Jalal and Jodha ... I do not have words to explain their state at the moment...

Precap:

Jodha's grandmother(who has come to Agra) asks Husain from Ruqs, so extends her arms to take Husain away from Agra(to Amer?), but Ruqs denies it and moves back..!!!..


abhay,no expectation of ruq's down fall but its high time for jalal to get what material this ruq is?

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