JA Oct 7 2014 | Elegy for Hasan, Oct10 Abhay Updt P18, Call to Zee P24 - Page 3

Originally posted by: history_geek

---UNRES---

Radhika,

This post of yours is a masterpiece. I do not possess the audacity to match your words.
Absolutely Phenomenal Performance by the Leads.!!!.
What an Episode it was.. I would recommend to all the friends here, watch the episode..

Tell me what was Missing.?. >>

Memories
Broken hearts
Tear-stained faces
Grief
Sadness
Regret
Guilt
Depression
Heart-Break
Rage
Sadness
Despair
Collapse
Console
Lost
Drifting
Helplessness
Vulnerability
Anger
Resent
Fraught
Denial
And what not.?.


Watch it NOT ONLY for RT and PS..

Today watch the episode for Jodha Akbar.
Amidst all the NR which we are fed up of, i am pretty sure, the scenes we saw today must have been replicated in the Fort of Agra .!!!

Didn't we all feel a Tsunami of Humanistic Feelings.?.
Didn't we all get all those emotionS one could think of, in such a setting.?.


" The rush of arrows and the clash of swords,
Tore the marrow of elephants and the entrails of tigers. "

^^^^^^ These lines "be-jewel" the capability of Shahenshah-e-Hind Jalal-ud-din Mohammed Akbar...Can we think of the man who had the ENTIRE Hindustan at HIS Feet, but was helpless.?. The Man who Proclaimed that he can write(and he DID) the destiny with HIS Sword, was a spectator before the Decree of God..!!!.


Coming to Jodha. She was so much broken today, that she even said, why God took Hasan and why not her.?. I can not think of better lines by Ghalib , to describe this moment :>

Urdu

Koi ummid bar nahin aati
Koi surat nazar nahin aati

Maut ka ek din mu'ayyana hai
Nind kyon raat bhar nahin aati

Aage aati thi hal-e-dil pe hansi
Ab kisi baat par nahin aati

Jaanata hun savab-e-ta'at-o-zahad
Par tabiyat idhar nahin aati

Hai kuch aisi hi bat jo chup hun
Varna kya baat kar nahin aati

Kyon na chikhun ki yad karate hain
Merii aavaaz gar nahin aati

Daag-e-dilagarnazar nahin aata
Bu bhi ai chaaraagar nahin aati

Ham vahan hain jahan se ham ko bhi
Kuch hamari Khabar nahin aati

Marte hain aarazuu mein marne ki
Maut aati hai par nahin aati


English Translation

I am left with no hope at all,
No possibility to reach my goal,

The Day of my death is fixed,
I can not sleep all night.

Then, the state(s) of my heart which used to make me laugh
Now it (laughter) doesn't come for anything.

Though I know the reward of obedience and worship,
But I have no tendency for it.

I am silent for a certain reason,
Otherwise I can convince you with my words,

Why I shouldn't cry,
For when I don't, she asks about me,

My heart is burning, though you cannot see the spot,
But O my doctor, can't you smell my heart burn?

I have reached to a certain state,
From where even I cannot find myself.

I am dying (Waiting anxiously) for my death,
I don't know where my death has gone.



Can we imagine the plight of Akbar - HK.?.
How it feels for a father to carry his "ANSH" {as Jodha says it}, to the graveyard.?.
The face of Jodha and Akbar displayed a 1000 shades today, each more subtle than the other.

Only people who are capable of loving strongly can suffer great sorrow, but this same necessity of loving serves to counteract their grief and heals them. Today Jalal was playing the same role for Jodha. Having said this, i also want to add that, the grief always remains there.. It has been said time heals all wounds. I differ a bit here.. The wounds remain. In time, the mind protecting it's sanity covers them and the pain lessens, but it's never gone."

"Agar kuch hota hai to woh yeh ki, Waqt ke saath us dukh ki "Kashish" "kam" ho jaati hai, par wo "kashish" kabhi "khatm" nahi hoti, woh kayamat tak aapke saath rehti hai.". We can wipe the tears from our eyes, but we can not wipe the pain from our heart.

I admit that i do not shed tears easily, but this episode brought me "almost on the verge" of shedding them. The scene looked so original. It was "saddingly ethereal" . I agree with you that neither can we compare the grief of the parents nor can we say who suffered more..When your fear touches someone's pain, it becomes pity, when your love touches someone's pain, it become compassion..

Did we notice this today.?. Did we notice Jalal's Love being converting into compassion for Jodha. He was very much present with her so that she no longer wrestles with the grief, but could sit down with it as a lasting companion(Jalal) and make it a sharer in her thoughts.

They say that the darkest night produces the brightest stars. In my view, the story becomes EPIC by such poignant display of emotions. I have heard that even a hundredfold grief is divisible by love.

Your partner complements you. While Jodha was with Jalal as his pillar, after he was broken hearing MA's crude words to THEIR unborn sons. Today, it was Jalal who played the same role for Jodha. Tears shed for someone are not a sign of weakness. They are a sign of a pure heart. Jalal and Jodha BOTH have went through the phase.

What can i say about Jalal. The "MAN" in him was very much present there, as a shield for Jodha. Apart from this i would request all not to judge the bereaved mother today. She lost the most beautiful thing she could keep in her heart.

NOW,

She is breathing, but she is dying.
She may look young, but inside she has turned old.
She may smile, but her heart sobs.
She may walk, may talk, may work. She is, but she is not, all at once.
She is here, but part of her is elsewhere for 'eternity' ."



RIP -||- Akbar and Harka Bai..

You both were NOT supposed to meet, but you MET..And, You scripted the "UNscriptable script"...!!!..!!!...I can't ADD more here.!. TODAY, I feel short of words..

Originally posted by: history_geek

---UNRES---

Radhika,

This post of yours is a masterpiece. I do not possess the audacity to match your words.
Absolutely Phenomenal Performance by the Leads.!!!.
What an Episode it was.. I would recommend to all the friends here, watch the episode..

Agree, you Abhay, Yes Radhika post is a masterpiece.

Tell me what was Missing.?. >>

Memories
Broken hearts
Tear-stained faces
Grief
Sadness
Regret
Guilt
Depression
Heart-Break
Rage
Sadness
Despair
Collapse
Console
Lost
Drifting
Helplessness
Vulnerability
Anger
Resent
Fraught
Denial
And what not.?.


Watch it NOT ONLY for RT and PS..

Today watch the episode for Jodha Akbar.
Amidst all the NR which we are fed up of, i am pretty sure, the scenes we saw today must have been replicated in the Fort of Agra .!!!

Abhay, I think when you are writing, this post, you Own became thoughtless, How Much beautifully, +Heartely you wrote this, Yes, Its Sure, replicated in the Fort of Agra,

& Akdha Soul Sure feel, Proud for RT, +Pari.

(There soul also feeling Proud, Such a Beautiful writers +Audience, who Love Akdha,

core of their Heart, & when writes, Writes from Heart.& feels feelings from there Heart,

Its a Big achievement, They are liking after so Many cen's, Or They Are Alive.👏 👏,

In Our Heart+Writing,Or many other forms.

Didn't we all feel a Tsunami of Humanistic Feelings.?.
Didn't we all get all those emotionS one could think of, in such a setting.?.

Yes, we all felt,

" The rush of arrows and the clash of swords,
Tore the marrow of elephants and the entrails of tigers. "

^^^^^^ These lines "be-jewel" the capability of Shahenshah-e-Hind Jalal-ud-din Mohammed Akbar...Can we think of the man who had the ENTIRE Hindustan at HIS Feet, but was helpless.?. The Man who Proclaimed that he can write(and he DID) the destiny with HIS Sword, was a spectator before the Decree of God..!!!.

YEs he was helpless, Here All is Helpless, Only We have to accept, Which Nature has decide For Us,But Here Akbar, Unconciousness +Faith of Wrong People Also is responsibile, we can;t deney This. Now He should be Aware, Because All cheaters are Living in the Place.

Zeenat is freely walking, Sharrif AM, Long lists, Or Own wife Ruk is, Busy, Power gaining.

Coming to Jodha. She was so much broken today, that she even said, why God took Hasan and why not her.?. I can not think of better lines by Ghalib , to describe this moment :>

Urdu

Koi ummid bar nahin aati
Koi surat nazar nahin aati

Maut ka ek din mu'ayyana hai
Nind kyon raat bhar nahin aati

Aage aati thi hal-e-dil pe hansi
Ab kisi baat par nahin aati

Jaanata hun savab-e-ta'at-o-zahad
Par tabiyat idhar nahin aati

Hai kuch aisi hi bat jo chup hun
Varna kya baat kar nahin aati

Kyon na chikhun ki yad karate hain
Merii aavaaz gar nahin aati

Daag-e-dilagarnazar nahin aata
Bu bhi ai chaaraagar nahin aati

Ham vahan hain jahan se ham ko bhi
Kuch hamari Khabar nahin aati

Marte hain aarazuu mein marne ki
Maut aati hai par nahin aati


English Translation

I am left with no hope at all,
No possibility to reach my goal,

The Day of my death is fixed,
I can not sleep all night.

Then, the state(s) of my heart which used to make me laugh
Now it (laughter) doesn't come for anything.

Though I know the reward of obedience and worship,
But I have no tendency for it.

I am silent for a certain reason,
Otherwise I can convince you with my words,

Why I shouldn't cry,
For when I don't, she asks about me,

My heart is burning, though you cannot see the spot,
But O my doctor, can't you smell my heart burn?

I have reached to a certain state,
From where even I cannot find myself.

I am dying (Waiting anxiously) for my death,
I don't know where my death has gone.

Speechless👏 👏 👏 👏


Can we imagine the plight of Akbar - HK.?.
How it feels for a father to carry his "ANSH" {as Jodha says it}, to the graveyard.?.
The face of Jodha and Akbar displayed a 1000 shades today, each more subtle than the other.

Secene,Was full of different shades, RT +PS nailed, supoose this incidence yesterday happened.

Only people who are capable of loving strongly can suffer great sorrow, but this same necessity of loving serves to counteract their grief and heals them. Today Jalal was playing the same role for Jodha. Having said this, i also want to add that, the grief always remains there.. It has been said time heals all wounds. I differ a bit here.. The wounds remain. In time, the mind protecting it's sanity covers them and the pain lessens, but it's never gone."

"Agar kuch hota hai to woh yeh ki, Waqt ke saath us dukh ki "Kashish" "kam" ho jaati hai, par wo "kashish" kabhi "khatm" nahi hoti, woh kayamat tak aapke saath rehti hai.". We can wipe the tears from our eyes, but we can not wipe the pain from our heart.

I admit that i do not shed tears easily, but this episode brought me "almost on the verge" of shedding them. The scene looked so original. It was "saddingly ethereal" . I agree with you that neither can we compare the grief of the parents nor can we say who suffered more..When your fear touches someone's pain, it becomes pity, when your love touches someone's pain, it become compassion..

Did we notice this today.?. Did we notice Jalal's Love being converting into compassion for Jodha. He was very much present with her so that she no longer wrestles with the grief, but could sit down with it as a lasting companion(Jalal) and make it a sharer in her thoughts.

Truely said, Time Heeels the Wounds, But Every Person Have its Own space, I wrote before, Salim will sure, Fill the Parents Child, Desires, But Hassan Or Hussain was there place, Is there Space will be fill No,

They say that the darkest night produces the brightest stars. In my view, the story becomes EPIC by such poignant display of emotions. I have heard that even a hundredfold grief is divisible by love.

Yes, You Heard Right, Hunderedfold Grief, is divisible By Love, Which Love Now Beats in Heart Of Akdha.When Heart Beats becomes One, Then Love Attomatically Comes.

Love No Use To describe, Its Cures Own, Not need to do extra efforts, When Love comes from Heart, & Reach Our Beloved, Heart, Vibes Automatically, starts To Heel Up, But Its Only who understands, They Feel One From Heart,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Which Akdha is feeling,

Two bodies, Becoming One, ( I wrote also My Post,)

Your partner complements you. While Jodha was with Jalal as his pillar, after he was broken hearing MA's crude words to THEIR unborn sons. Today, it was Jalal who played the same role for Jodha. Tears shed for someone are not a sign of weakness. They are a sign of a pure heart. Jalal and Jodha BOTH have went through the phase.

Yes totally agree, Tears, are not Sign of weakness. But Its Washes Our Inner inpurites,

Which is necessary, Tears also play A great Role in Our Journey. After tears We feel relax, Or If we check, We gained from tears also.

What can i say about Jalal. The "MAN" in him was very much present there, as a shield for Jodha. Apart from this i would request all not to judge the bereaved mother today. She lost the most beautiful thing she could keep in her heart

.

This song will say,

Tere mere sapne ab ek rang hain

Ho jahan bhi le jaayein raahein hum sang hain

Ho tere mere sapne ab ek rang hain

Ho jahan bhi le jaayein raahein hum sang hain

Mere tere dil ka

Tay tha ik din milna

Jaise bahaar aane par

Tay hai phool ka khilna

Mere tere dil ka

Tay tha ik din milna

Jaise bahaar aane par

Tay hai phool ka khilna

O mere jeevan sathi

Tere mere sapne ab ek rang hain

Ho jahan bhi le jaayein raahein hum sang hain

Tere dukh ab mere, mere sukh ab tere

Tere yeh do naina chand aur sooraj mere

Tere dukh ab mere, mere sukh ab tere

Tere yeh do naina chand aur sooraj mere

O mere jeevan saathi

Tere mere sapne ab ek rang hain

Ho jahan bhi le jaayein raahein hum sang hain

Lakh mana le duniya

Sath na yeh chhootega

Aake mere haathon mein

Hath na yeh chhootega

Lakh mana le duniya

Sath na yeh chhootega

Aake mere haathon mein

Hath na yeh chhootega

O mere jeevan saathi

Tere mere sapne ab ek rang hain

Ho jahan bhi le jaayein raahein hum sang hain

Ho tere mere sapne ab ek rang hai

NOW,

She is breathing, but she is dying.
She may look young, but inside she has turned old.
She may smile, but her heart sobs.
She may walk, may talk, may work. She is, but she is not, all at once.
She is here, but part of her is elsewhere for 'eternity' ."



RIP -||- Akbar and Harka Bai..

You both were NOT supposed to meet, but you MET..And, You scripted the "UNscriptable script"...!!!..!!!...I can't ADD more here.!. TODAY, I feel short of words..

Speechless,👏 👏 👏 👏, Yes words are Less, But Grace of Akdha is Extreem level, which fills Our Heart also, Core of The Heart.⭐️ ⭐️

Originally posted by: history_geek

---UNRES---

Radhika,

This post of yours is a masterpiece. I do not possess the audacity to match your words.
Absolutely Phenomenal Performance by the Leads.!!!.
What an Episode it was.. I would recommend to all the friends here, watch the episode..

Tell me what was Missing.?. >>

Memories
Broken hearts
Tear-stained faces
Grief
Sadness
Regret
Guilt
Depression
Heart-Break
Rage
Sadness
Despair
Collapse
Console
Lost
Drifting
Helplessness
Vulnerability
Anger
Resent
Fraught
Denial
And what not.?.


Watch it NOT ONLY for RT and PS..

Today watch the episode for Jodha Akbar.
Amidst all the NR which we are fed up of, i am pretty sure, the scenes we saw today must have been replicated in the Fort of Agra .!!!

Didn't we all feel a Tsunami of Humanistic Feelings.?.
Didn't we all get all those emotionS one could think of, in such a setting.?.


" The rush of arrows and the clash of swords,
Tore the marrow of elephants and the entrails of tigers. "

^^^^^^ These lines "be-jewel" the capability of Shahenshah-e-Hind Jalal-ud-din Mohammed Akbar...Can we think of the man who had the ENTIRE Hindustan at HIS Feet, but was helpless.?. The Man who Proclaimed that he can write(and he DID) the destiny with HIS Sword, was a spectator before the Decree of God..!!!.


Coming to Jodha. She was so much broken today, that she even said, why God took Hasan and why not her.?. I can not think of better lines by Ghalib , to describe this moment :>

Urdu

Koi ummid bar nahin aati
Koi surat nazar nahin aati

Maut ka ek din mu'ayyana hai
Nind kyon raat bhar nahin aati

Aage aati thi hal-e-dil pe hansi
Ab kisi baat par nahin aati

Jaanata hun savab-e-ta'at-o-zahad
Par tabiyat idhar nahin aati

Hai kuch aisi hi bat jo chup hun
Varna kya baat kar nahin aati

Kyon na chikhun ki yad karate hain
Merii aavaaz gar nahin aati

Daag-e-dilagarnazar nahin aata
Bu bhi ai chaaraagar nahin aati

Ham vahan hain jahan se ham ko bhi
Kuch hamari Khabar nahin aati

Marte hain aarazuu mein marne ki
Maut aati hai par nahin aati


English Translation

I am left with no hope at all,
No possibility to reach my goal,

The Day of my death is fixed,
I can not sleep all night.

Then, the state(s) of my heart which used to make me laugh
Now it (laughter) doesn't come for anything.

Though I know the reward of obedience and worship,
But I have no tendency for it.

I am silent for a certain reason,
Otherwise I can convince you with my words,

Why I shouldn't cry,
For when I don't, she asks about me,

My heart is burning, though you cannot see the spot,
But O my doctor, can't you smell my heart burn?

I have reached to a certain state,
From where even I cannot find myself.

I am dying (Waiting anxiously) for my death,
I don't know where my death has gone.



Can we imagine the plight of Akbar - HK.?.
How it feels for a father to carry his "ANSH" {as Jodha says it}, to the graveyard.?.
The face of Jodha and Akbar displayed a 1000 shades today, each more subtle than the other.

Only people who are capable of loving strongly can suffer great sorrow, but this same necessity of loving serves to counteract their grief and heals them. Today Jalal was playing the same role for Jodha. Having said this, i also want to add that, the grief always remains there.. It has been said time heals all wounds. I differ a bit here.. The wounds remain. In time, the mind protecting it's sanity covers them and the pain lessens, but it's never gone."

"Agar kuch hota hai to woh yeh ki, Waqt ke saath us dukh ki "Kashish" "kam" ho jaati hai, par wo "kashish" kabhi "khatm" nahi hoti, woh kayamat tak aapke saath rehti hai.". We can wipe the tears from our eyes, but we can not wipe the pain from our heart.

I admit that i do not shed tears easily, but this episode brought me "almost on the verge" of shedding them. The scene looked so original. It was "saddingly ethereal" . I agree with you that neither can we compare the grief of the parents nor can we say who suffered more..When your fear touches someone's pain, it becomes pity, when your love touches someone's pain, it become compassion..

Did we notice this today.?. Did we notice Jalal's Love being converting into compassion for Jodha. He was very much present with her so that she no longer wrestles with the grief, but could sit down with it as a lasting companion(Jalal) and make it a sharer in her thoughts.

They say that the darkest night produces the brightest stars. In my view, the story becomes EPIC by such poignant display of emotions. I have heard that even a hundredfold grief is divisible by love.

Your partner complements you. While Jodha was with Jalal as his pillar, after he was broken hearing MA's crude words to THEIR unborn sons. Today, it was Jalal who played the same role for Jodha. Tears shed for someone are not a sign of weakness. They are a sign of a pure heart. Jalal and Jodha BOTH have went through the phase.

What can i say about Jalal. The "MAN" in him was very much present there, as a shield for Jodha. Apart from this i would request all not to judge the bereaved mother today. She lost the most beautiful thing she could keep in her heart.

NOW,

She is breathing, but she is dying.
She may look young, but inside she has turned old.
She may smile, but her heart sobs.
She may walk, may talk, may work. She is, but she is not, all at once.
She is here, but part of her is elsewhere for 'eternity' ."



RIP -||- Akbar and Harka Bai..

You both were NOT supposed to meet, but you MET..And, You scripted the "UNscriptable script"...!!!..!!!...I can't ADD more here.!. TODAY, I feel short of words..

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Radhika it's very heartbreaking episode.. Aftr effects of episode were bad for me lol shivering hands unstoppable tears., it's painful for me to watch such scenes.. 😭 😭 wonderful acting by paridhi she squeezed my heart by showing mothers pain how mother reacts initially wen kids death news is heard,, 👏 ⭐️ rajat was good with hiding pain and trying to console jo and he cudnt stop tears 👏

Hassan hussain have become family for us and the thought that we can never see hassan is killing me inside... Very soon hussain also dies 😭 😭 I dnt knw how JJ overcomes it... Its difficult for them to cme out of this...

Very true, Bhavna, both Paridhi and Rajat have been brilliant in this track, esp as the bereaved parents of a new born child...They are so true to life that it's as if we are watching something real happening to someone very close to us. JJ and HH have become our own family and their sorrows have become our sorrows, their tears our tears...Really missing little Hasan...Yesterday I also felt that JJ were literally breaking down in front of our eyes at the demise of one child...how will they be able to deal with the demise of the other too within a few days...They are using up all their strength to cope with one jolt, from where wil they draw the strength to deal with another devastating blow?

It must have been an excruciating journey for them to accept the loss, move on and then to hope again. An emperor or a pauper, everyone is weak before God's design and everyone is stripped of their ego and brought to their knees by God before being granted mercy.

I think promo scene is ruk dream... Aftr seeing hassan death she wil Dream lik that... Bcz JJ r in jewellery which is not possible at present sotuation wer jo looks totally devastated in precap... Hassan dies and jo wil b heartbriken and shattered... Seeing her condition Jallu may ask ruk to share child for which she says no... But to get good marks in jallu eyes she accepts to give child for one night.. Zeenat may poison hussain and jo wil cme out of depression aftr seeing hussain and that night only hussain wil die.. Ruk makes whole agra scream and blames jo for hussain death.. In all these I dnt know how zeenat wil b caught or ruk exposed...

Wil Farman plays any role or nothing?? I want Jallu to use Farman which means ruk shud do sme careless thinv with hussain thereby Jallu takes hussain from her... I want hussain to spend sme happy moments with JJ before his death... I dnt want him to die in ruk witch hands... How unfortunate he wil become then? I gave Very bad prediction but cvs give such kind of epsiodes for us bcz they love ruk and torture jo,,,friday precap got edited and sme dialogues were deleted in yday episode of jodha,,,,but ruk and her dialgues shud b there in each episode for cvs,,,,

Your predicted outline is possible. 😊 Somehow I don't think Ruq will be careless with the child because he is her ticket to POWER. She will treat him like a very precious thing and she does already...she has exclusive right to touch him and nurture him...

Did you see yesterday's precap ...the way she almost snatched Hussein back from Jodha, and broke into a smile that betrayed her feelings of being conscious that Fate had been very kind to her and made her the MUZ?

The farman..I don't think Jalal will use it as of now...Let's see...Ruq should now get arrogant and then make some moves that expose her intentions to Jalal...meanwhile Hussein has to pass away too ... leading to Zeenat's capture...

Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi akka

Hi Purani, GE 😊

it's have been so long since coming to forum...sorry akka I have not responded for two of your relies in previous threads.

No issues...Just write when you can...Studies first... 😊

I watched the episode and i did not like the DEK scene...I find my childhood storybook birbal was way better.

Most people didn't like that scene...Both Birbal and Tansen were made a laughing stock by the CVs...😕

Towards the end the episode was shocking. I did not aspect Hassan to die this soon.

Again, most people were as shocked as JJ by the sudden and unexpected demise of Hasan..

I watched during lunch break and later went to class, Islamic finance law.

Purani, very interesting subject...Do PM me about how Islamic finance laws are different from normal international finance laws...when you have time...not urgent...😊

Got new prof from Nigeria and this his first class. Since he does not know our names yet he address my friend beside me as Rukaiya...that made me laugh. See even ruks can make😆.

Now coming to serious talk on yesterdays epi...the main event is hassan's death. There are 3 person's who are most effected . Jo, Ja and hassan. I'm not going talk anything about ruks coz its just not worth it.

Jalal and Jodha are now in very much painful situation. Both will be broken but Jalal will recover soon. For Jodha this first time for her to go true the lost of someone very close, a part of her. She has been with Jalal in many of his lost. So I'm looking forward how they are going to come back to normal.

It is truly amazing to see Jalal being there with Jodha every moment ... not leaving her alone ... making sure his mother and Salima Begum are with her when he cannot be present ... He knows she is extremely sensitive and can take any unpredictable steps in her trauma.. And he is therefore making her open up and let out her grief, sharing her pain, helping her heal herself by letting go of all the negative emotions of losing a child ... giving her a reason to live and look forward to a hopeful future...

Jodha standing by Jalal is something we have seen and something we almost expect from a wife...But an Indian husband, that too, a mighty emperor with a harem full of beautiful wives, understanding his wife's pain, and taking it upon himself to absorb her pain and heal her with his strength and positivity... hiding his own sorrow ... I would say he's hiding his own sorrow at the moment and pretending to show a courage that isn't really there... so that SHE should NOT break...so that SHE is able to come out of the trauma a stronger person...that's really SOMETHING!

I am not denigrating or reducing Jodha's support to Jalal. But our society is such that a wife would usually support the husband. But a husband supporting a wife is unexpected and rare.

Jalal telling Jodha that he could not live without her yesterday had a more profound impact on me than when he said it the first time, when she was almost dying. At that time, it had been his soul calling out to her soul and I doubt if they were conscious of what that really meant. But yesterday he showed that he really was AWARE of being absolutely sure that he could not live without her. He was broken by Hasan's demise, no doubt. But he was even more sure that while he could accept Hasan's demise and move on in life with Jodha by his side, he could not live a moment if Jodha were to leave him.

This is what is lasting, eternal love, Purani. Jalal had once joked that he would not let even his children come between him and Jodha. Jodha had once assured him with all her heart that he meant more to her than their children also, that even if their kids left him, she would always be with him.

And truth be told, they did live like that. Jalal being more worried for his wife instead of wallowing in his own grief made me cry more than even little Hasan with his demise.

Who are responsible for hassan's dead...I would say fate and of cause zeenat. What about Hussein? Are Jo and Ja liable for their untimely demise? Yes Jalal's generous farman and Jodha's selfless sacrifice is what started this whole twin sharing and it seems not ending but going to have a new heights this week. So are they to be blamed? For me they are to be blamed only if when they took the decision they could have foreseen the what befall them now. Neither jalal could have predicted asking a child of Jodha when he gave that Farman nor Jodha would have expected Ruks to shut her off completely and make a complete 360 degree u turn in behavior. Jalal when giving the farman he didn't even know that Jo is pregnant with twins. Jo or any mother cannot have imagine that her children would die.

The death of the children is like domino effect and zeenat did the final deed. Its like from starting of this pregnancy, the nature wants the children to die.

If you were to look at it philosophically, the babies were destined to die. Looking at it from the POV of a physical world, Zeenat caused their death. In any event, I would not blame JJ for the untimely demise of their babies. They acted with the best of intentions and their goodness should not be held against them. It is this goodness that will also heal them and help them move on.

It is true that it is JJ's darkest phase of life. Lets just focus on the actual event that is hassan's death. Birth and death are part of every soul's journey. If there is a birth in the house then its time to celebrate the joy but the only one will be sulking is the baby. Why because now that he is born he will be subjected to law of karma. Whatever karmic baggage he brought with himself in this lifetime, it starts its effect right after birth. The feel is like entering an exam hall without knowing what is going to befall, thanks to maya. Now coming to death. Death is when the soul leave behind it's mortal body when its time comes. It is actually an happy thing for the soul coz now it have just completed on step. It is said that someone dying very young are lucky because they don't have be tortured in this world. Seeing this way HH are lucky coz Agra palace is crawling with negativity. This point is only from the child's soul per se and nothing to do with the pain of JJ as parents.

Beautifully put, Purani.

Akka...I still have doubt on how Hassan died. Zeenat clearly said that the poison will take 5 days to kill and hassan is already dead. Ruks is shown doing nothing wrong when it supposed to be her exposure track. Akka...there are some similarities between Atifa and current track. There also we know Atifa a sub character and here Zeenat. There Maham was responsible and we did not know until later part of the track. In Atifa, we did not know Jalal's idea and here with slight chances we dont know what is Ruks doing. Jalal turn bad and now ruks is acting good, both out of character if u ask me. And the common thing is JJ is suffering. Now, I do slight doubt that what if Ruks have some part in Hassan's death. She may not intended to kill. I'm not going to predict how she might have she done it. But if not there can be no way of any exposing or punishment of Ruks.

Purani, that's a very different and refreshing way of looking at the present situation. You are quite right...Ruq is more good than usual. It is quite possible she may be doing something behind the scenes that will be revealed only later. Let's see.

PS was very good in her acting on that scene...RT also good. They succeeded in making me cry. 👏.

Yes, both have been scintillating. ⭐️

RIP Hassan and JJ just be strong.

Ameen

Originally posted by: -aady-

How can I forget? Just that we never got to discuss much after that. First of all thank you so much. I am an absolute fan of your writing and reasoning. Threads like this enhances the the JA experience. 🤗

Thanks Aady! 🤗Sorry for the late response. 😳

Well it was one rollercoaster of an episode all over again today. The death of Hassan having devastating effects on his parents. The moaning, the tears, the feeling of loss all together portrayed the grave reality of death. RT and PS once again succeed in moving viewers to tears by their stellar performance.

Agree completely.

I for one loved the scene where Jodha questions her 'Kanha' as to how all the good deeds she has done has resulted in her losing her child. "Bad things happen to good people"- that moment when Jodha realizes that life is unfair and no one is spared from it's unforgiving grasp was so touching. It is the sad truth of life that continues to puzzle me even today.

Life seems unfair. But it is not really so. Our karma catches up with us, sooner or later. We may think we have not done anything to deserve such a fate. But then we do carry baggage from past lives. Also, we have to remember that in a family, many destinies are intertwined. So anyone's karma may affect the others too.

Today we got to see a strong husband Jalal trying to support his devastated wife Jodha who had given up on life. I personally loved how Jalal was shown as Jodha's greatest support. The pain was so visible in Jalal's eyes but he kept strong and did not break down because he wanted to be there for Jodha, not add to her sorrow. Sometime's it scenes like those where Akdha just silently cling on to to each other that make you believe in true love, that there is always going to be someone to help you in a difficult phase of life.

@underlined: Beautifully expressed and I fully agree that yesterday was not only about how JJ coped with Hasan's demise but also a testimony to their epic love. See my response to Purani above.

And in the precap we are back to seeing Ruk being her usual self being totally oblivious to the fact that Jodha has just lost her child. Sometimes I feel Rukaiiya has this switch that makes her forget about how she got the child. SHE ACTUALLY SMILED. How was she able to cook up a smile in such a situation?

Now is when we start seeing the real Ruqaiyya, the one who wanted the child to become the MUZ. Now she will become arrogant and conceited and totally insensitive to JJ's double loss - one child given away and another departed. The fact that she is restless as long as Hussein is in Jodha's arms and able to smile as soon as she takes control of him clearly shows her intentions for the future. In spite of superficially agreeing to share Hussein with Jodha, RUq will continue to exercise full rights over him. In this arrogance, she may do something that exposes her true self to Jalal.

Once again great work by RT and PS, it looks like they have stopped 'Acting' these days and just do everything from their heart. Kudos to these brilliant actors. 👏

They are truly brilliant. 👏 They make Jodha Akbar come alive for us. A big thanks to them!!