JA Oct 7 2014 | Elegy for Hasan, Oct10 Abhay Updt P18, Call to Zee P24 - Page 5

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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: history_geek


It was SO disgusting to watch Ruqs today. I could NOT connect with her at all.
She wants Husain NOT because she feels for him like a mother, BUT for her Power..!!!.
This POWER has made her so blind...

What kind of friend is she.?. NO..This is NOT friendship..!!!

I can see Ruqs is digging a deep well for herself..
About Jalal and Jodha ... I do not have words to explain their state at the moment...

Precap:

Jodha's grandmother(who has come to Agra) asks Husain from Ruqs, so extends her arms to take Husain away from Agra(to Amer?), but Ruqs denies it and moves back..!!!..


Ruqaiya is hard to watch these days. One of the most selfish and disgusting characters on TV.

In this serial, if Dadisa had taken Hussain with her to Amer( if that is the way it plays out), he might have been saved, but because of Ruqaiya's selfishness, it does not happen. Another black mark against Ruqs, Akbar will remember this when the times comes to punish her.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Rutuja...

beautiful post Radhika...


each n every thing u described wonderfully...


miss u lil baby Hassan...


Thanks, Rutuja!

We all will miss baby Hasan ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Take a bow to your writing Radhika. Maddy's post convinced me to finally watch the episode and I am still heartbroken.I hope this week just goes by as I feel very gloomy.

It was an awesome Episode with breathtaking performance by Pardihi and Rajat as Grieving parents at the death of their child. I just cried with them. A part of them died with Hassan's death as children are always a symbol of your future and they just lost all their hopes and dreams. Sudden death of your child is severe and agonizing, yet Jalal regained his strength and was today Jodha's pillar of strength.It was saddening to watch Jodha question her Kana.

Precap was irritating. My only hope is that all this is not dragged to next week and we are tortured. I do hope Zeenat is caught and punished. It will be very depressing to see them escaping. At this Point I am not even thinking about Ruks as to me she does not exist at all so it does not matter if she is shown or not. I have learned to zone her out. One thing I am sure Ruks will learn it the hard way like Mamanga.




Thanks, Sindhu!

@bold: So true!

@underlined: Jalal didn't quite regain his strength. He was putting up a brave front for Jodha's sake, to support her, to give her hope for the future.

There's nothing wrong in questioning Kanha. Any devotee sometimes gets angry with God when they feel they have been unjustly dealt with, but this anger is the anger of a child towards a parent. It soon blows over and the parent-child are reunited. 😊

Sindhu, now you won't be able to zone out Ruq because from today till next ten-fifteen days, she will be in our faces all the time. 😕


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Posted: 10 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Donjas


Ruqaiya is hard to watch these days. One of the most selfish and disgusting characters on TV.

In this serial, if Dadisa had taken Hussain with her to Amer( if that is the way it plays out), he might have been saved, but because of Ruqaiya's selfishness, it does not happen. Another black mark against Ruqs, Akbar will remember this when the times comes to punish her.


Donjas u still beleive jalal il punish her..even if jalal wants to punish her..but cv's wont let him punish her..this one day sharing is just to get into good books of jalal and everyone..and unfortunately kid il fall sick wen he il be with jodha..rukku il blame jodha for killing her own flesh..and jalal and every one il sit and watch her insults and jodha's pain but remains helpless...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Thanks, Sindhu!

@bold: So true!

@underlined: Jalal didn't quite regain his strength. He was putting up a brave front for Jodha's sake, to support her, to give her hope for the future.

There's nothing wrong in questioning Kanha. Any devotee sometimes gets angry with God when they feel they have been unjustly dealt with, but this anger is the anger of a child towards a parent. It soon blows over and the parent-child are reunited. 😊

Sindhu, now you won't be able to zone out Ruq because from today till next ten-fifteen days, she will be in our faces all the time. 😕




Thanks Radhika. agree with you

@blue: 😭😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu



Very well said Abhay .

Jalal is getting to see the selfish and self centered Rukaiyya . I want her to continue exhibiting her ungenerous behavior so that Jalal's disappointment towards her turns to revulsion . Rukaiyya is treading the path of self destruction really well , she needs no help from Zeenat . Her thirst for power will reduce her to a nonentity .



@well said...totally totally agree with you. My only question is how long we will have to tolerate her
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Donjas


Ruqaiya is hard to watch these days. One of the most selfish and disgusting characters on TV.

In this serial, if Dadisa had taken Hussain with her to Amer( if that is the way it plays out), he might have been saved, but because of Ruqaiya's selfishness, it does not happen. Another black mark against Ruqs, Akbar will remember this when the times comes to punish her.



hope what u say comes true Donjas and we all will not be disappointed.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Neetz

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Hey
Lovely post. You have put across everything very very beautifully. You write so well. :)
Thanks, Neetz!
Will post in detail in a while.
The episode today was excellence redefined.
Btw, what do I call you? considering the fact that you're elder to me ,something I didn't know before.
So who told you?! 😆 You can call me anything you like, no issues...😊
P.S. I am so very sorry I couldn't reply back on your previous thread. I typed in a detailed reply but as soon as I hit send I got a spam alert. but I agree with each and everything you mentioned. Even I am not going with the swap theory because if that had happened Jodha and Ruks would have realized it na.

No need to apologize. I cannot tell you the number of times I have written long posts and lost them! I guess you have a limit on the number of posts you can make, being a groupbie.
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Hey,

Now, how do I even start? I am at a loss of words today. I doubt whatever I am going to write now will do justice to the magic we got to witness on our screens.

If you write so magically when you are at a loss for words, then how much more magnificent you must be when the words come to you easily! 👏 Absolutely beautiful post, Neetz! You have captured the essence of all 3 - Jalal, Jodha and Hasan so well and then expressed it to us in a crystal clear manner. Hats off to you! 👍🏼🤗


Both Rajat and Paridhi gave powerhouse performances today. It was a treat to watch them. I applaud them for it. I cried with them and I am sure many would have too.

As Abhay mentioned in his post that there was every emotion that should have been there. It was all very subtle. Nothing OTT. Probably that is what touched the viewers so.

It was heart wrenching to watch Jo and Ja in so much pain. Seeing them so I couldn't help thinking about real Akbar and HK. I can't even begin to imagine what they must have gone through losing their kids again and again. And it's amazing to see how they withstood the test of times with their love and support for each other and also their faith in the Almighty. They emerged out of it stronger than ever before. The way Jalal was holding on to Jodha it seemed as if he was drawing strength from her to be able to give her the support that she needed then. He himself was a grieving father but I was amazed to see how he was keeping his emotions in check and not allowing himself to succumb to them because in that moment he had to be his wife's shield. His face was a carbon copy of the despair on Jodha's face. He was absorbing all her pain and that was reflected on his face. In a way he was carrying double the burden of pain- that of losing his precious son and watching his beloved wife in such a state,In so much pain. It's one thing to bear your own pain but it's far more difficult to watch the one you love and care for the most breaking into pieces. And to stay strong and poised in such a situation is the hardest thing to do but Jalal did it. For Jodha. That's why Jalal stood out for me here. Rajat nailed it so perfectly.

Jodha as a mother who had just lost her son, a part of her, was sensational. Her cries of pain were blood curdling to say the least. For Paridhi I have no words to say. She was pure magic. Jodha in her desperation begged her husband to get her child back and she would never ask for anything ever again, her slapping herself hoping that it was all a nightmare and when she will wake up all will be well was very painful to watch.The moment she said she wishes to die and why hadn't she died in place of Hassan or why the curse had been for her child and not for her was very powerful. Her begging Jalal to take her along for Hassan's final rites was a sight to behold. Paridhi was brilliant in every scene so was Rajat. The simple yet sincere answer Jalal gave her was soothing in a way. He told her he was her reason to live and if she won't be there, his life would have no meaning so he would rather die with her as well. He made her understand that they had to live for each other and with each other. I couldn't help but notice the slight change in Jodha's expressions there. She knew she had her husband in whose arms she could find solace. And will always have. Here I would like to say that I really wish to see Jodha giving the same support to Jalal as he is giving her now. He will need to let go of his pent up emotions for his own sanity and only Jodha will be able to get through to him like he was the only one who could console her.Till now he has bottled everything inside him so that Jodha can come to terms with the reality, showering her with all his love and care. She has been openly grieving and he is doing so silently within himself-that's the only difference at the moment. He will need her as much as she needs him. They are in this together as well. It's a shared loss.

Personally I feel he is letting out his pent up emotions in a stream of love for Jodha, that as he is able to calm her he feels calm himself...Very often the only way we can reduce our own pain is by helping someone who is in pain too. By focusing on their pain, we forget our own pain and slowly it recedes from our consciousness till all we feel is a oneness with the person whose pain we are sharing and empathising with.

Amidst all of this I cannot forget the baby who lost his life so soon. It's painful for parents to watch their child die and none can understand that pain other the one who has to bear it. Hassan was here for such a short time but left behind innumerable memories. He will soon be followed by his twin brother Hussein and I don't know how I will be able to take in grief of this magnitude. Jodha and Jalal are already broken. How will they take it when Hussein leaves them too? God bless the babies who have played the part of Hassan and Hussein resp.

I also feel the same - how will they be able to deal with Hussein's demise so soon after Hasan's?

I have said enough now.

I could read you on and on. 👏

I would once again like to say that Rajat and Paridhi were superlative in their performances. It was difficult to tell the difference between their acting and reality. It was that real to me. They made me cry with them. Must have been difficult to maintain the consistency in the acting without getting melodramatic They maintained that level of emotions beautifully.. We had such poignant moments in the episode that I cannot describe the way I saw them and how they made me feel. It was SPECTACULAR indeed!!!


Neetz, your post touched me a lot! Please do share your thoughts when ever you can. Thanks so much!

@lines turned red: Agree with them - they are so beautifully penned! ⭐️
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Radhika wonderful post.
I know how much i try to feel the agony,anguish, trauma of parents JJ for losing their flesh n blood,i won't ever reach the zenith of these all with my feelings b/c only one parent can understand properly the agony of another parent. I can only sound sigh, alas or fall little tears not more than these! The painful hole has been created in JJ's heart today as parents, the deepth of this hole is beyond of my understanding. Today's epi was overwhelmly heart wrenching. One side, Jodha had been crumbled down into pieces n another side Jalal had to control his own emotions again n again before Jodha for giving solace to Jodha so as to Jo didn't break down more to see his inner turmoil.
Previous in many posts i have already said this is the only track where Jo won't ever stand to b pillar of Jalal rather jalal has to b the rescuer of Jo bringing out frm trauma b/c she herself won't remain stable to lose her kid where as an offspring has always attached with mother slightly more than father may b the fact is almost 9 months pregnancy's time span of a mother has been already created a heavenly strong relationship b/w mother n her womb's kid which is genuinely unbreakable ever n its strenght can't describe using words its like that before getting the taste of universe's light,air a progeny 1st feel the entity of its mother staying in her womb.(it totally my personal view) Today paridhi justified quite to show a mother's terribly helplessness losing her child n rajat portrayed skillfully a rescuer husband Jalal who was impeccable to bring out his wife Jodha frm deep trauma(hope it wl remain continue)
1 matter i have liked that today cvs didn't show ruq consoled jo b/c its looked ruq as mentally disorder when cvs show ruq's fake gud behavior with jo that she did after mirchi war,after atifa track as its not real ruq.


Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

abhay,no expectation of ruq's down fall but its high time for jalal to get what material this ruq is?


Nabiii

Answering both your posts here. Sorry!

I agree totally with what you mentioned in your first comment.

Regarding the bond between a mother and child (esp first child): I cannot explain it in words but the relationship is kind of like a private world where no one, not even the father, has entry. When this world is formed is hard to say. It is not necessarily when the child is still in the womb. At that time, there is a superficial kind of joy and anticipation but we are not really ready for the transformation in our feelings and our ability to love, protect and nurture another being until we hold the baby and caress it, feed it, bathe it, hear it coo, watch the first smile on its face,...The sheer helplessness of a baby, its total dependence on us, its aura of divine innocence, its cherubic face, mischievous eyes, gurgling laughter, I can't say what it is, but slowly without realising it, the cocoon around the mother and child is completed.

It is hard to say who is dependent on whom in this symbiotic relationship. Very often, the mother, a nurturer in the eyes of the world, becomes emotionally so dependent on the child that she cannot bear to see the child getting closer to anyone else. It's not jealousy but a deep insecurity of losing the one we hold most precious to us.

In her wildest nightmares, Jodha may never have imagined the sudden breaking of her private world and the unexpected loss of the sun within that world. When the sun itself is lost, how can the mother whose world revolved around that sun remain alive?

Jalal's grief is as real as it can be. I am deeply touched by his conscious effort to present a strong, purposeful front in front of Jodha and being with her every moment to share her grief and help her cope. It is a mute testimony to their eternal love.

At the same time, I would say that somewhere Jodha, the mother, has lost more than a child. More than her hopes for the future, her dreams, her aspirations. She has lost the center of her universe, her purpose to live, her very life.

Do you remember how Jodha had become when she was in Amer in the separation track, away from Jalal? She was a walking zombie. Hasan is much more than even Jalal in some ways because he is not a separate person to her, he is a part of her, the core of her existence. Jodha had recovered on her own in the separation track because her soul was still alive then. But now when her soul has left her, she cannot recover on her own. She needs Jalal to find and bring back her soul from the desolate stretches of the graveyard where Hasan is now reposing.

Regarding Ruqaiyya's downfall: I also feel that Ruq does not need to do anything nasty. All these days, she was goodness personified (real or put on ?). And I had lost hopes of seeing her being punished. Today she is returning to the Ruq we know. I feel if she continues like this, Jalal will become disgusted with her and grow totally emotionally distant from her.

This time, he will not let Ruq go so easily because he cannot bear to see Jodha breaking down in front of him.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Res.

What an amazing piece of writing .Love you Radhika really love you.
Will come back later with more,


Rashmi,

Thanks! 😊

Look fwd to hear from you...

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