Originally posted by: sashashyam
Sandhya my pet,
I am so glad that you are with me on this: I could hardly sit thru the episode. I was not looking forward to Jalal's weeping profusely, but I had not bargained for this wholesale whitewashing of pure, unrepentant, unashamed evil. Why, next to Mahaam, Lady Macbeth looks like a church choir girl!
Your @blue is perfect, but then, my poppet, Mahaam does NOT think she has wronged Jalal in any way. She does not apologise for anything she has done, and her accepting Jodha (as I had predicted on Khushi's thread) was not a change of heart, but an arrogant paying off of her debt to Jodha for having brought Jalal to her at long last.
Mahaam, in her passing, was exactly as my title makes her out to be, triumphant. Everyone has to die one day, but she made a far grander exit that poor Atgah, and that is what got my goat. Jalal wept over her far more than he did over Atgah, who lived and died for him. Such is life. The film was much, much better in this respect.
As for Jodha being glorified, I am by now inured to it. Now, I just want this mess to end soon. I agree, I could not have done a stand alone post on this episode in Dhwani, but see, I was so irritated by it that I had to put this up, here and in Khushi's thread as well!
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Hi Shyamala Aunty, just wanted to let you know that I loved your post. It was spot on for me. I keep reading your posts in Dhwani too and love your writing style, the analysis - be it the shreddig or the rejoicing😊. Thanks for entertaining so many of us so many times with your posts. There are quite a few posts that still lingers on in me, one such being your post in Dhwani during the early JA days in the scene where he lands up when Jodha changes and he ends up saying green being his favourtie colour - you had analysed so beautifully the Jalal's unsaid, yet said in its own way. Thanks for such treats time and again. And I have been wanting to clarify something on Jodha with you for sometime, hope you will have time for me😊.
I liked Sandhay's posts as well on today's topic. I always relish her posts.
And I do appreciate Divi's sentiment as well while she made this post.
Regarding the episode, the episode seemed to have only two objectives as I see:
- a tribute to Ashwini
- a tribute to Jodha
and, should I say that rest did not matter! Or should I also include, maybe a changed love-overflowing Jalal who is competing now with Jodha?
While the episode shone in terms of performance (of the two indivdual actors), it lacked subtance. Looks like Ashwini got the better of MA - to me it looks like the confused lot, deeming it a fitting farewell to Ashwini, ended up glorifying MA. I suppose Rajat cried for Ashwini too and not MA!! However, if it was meant to be really the MA-Jalal pathos, then I see the CVs and PH beyond redemption...sorry, if it hurts anyone, this is just my take.
I share Sandhya's problem - looking at the serial logically😕 If you had seen my earlier post in this thread today, I had shared some of these sentiments, where I had also shared that atleast a FB will be shown where MA regrets. But looking at it deeply, maybe they wanted MA to live and die 'as is'. I am reminded of 'Neelambari' character in Padaiyappa - she will die chanting her holy name! Ofcourse, Neelambari is angel compared to MA!
But what beats me is, if they had wanted to leave her character intact, they should have done just that, like in the case of Adham Khan - none of us cried about his redemption. But what has happened here is confusion, to put it midly? Honestly, I could not swallow this glorification when Atgah was not given even half the credit. I am with you in toto.
Maybe they could have dedicated an entire showtime for Ashwini's farewell and we could have cried along to be missing out on such a wonderful actress. I could have borne this special whow at the cost of the prime episode, but not costing the episode as such.
I am not even demanding an apology from MA - my redemption you see :) Let her die in her own supreme state, but let us not celebrate glorying it - this is all my ask.
Akbar's absolution to the mother theory - I agree with you, it was not convincing to me as well. Like jodha mahanta versions, it seemed an Akbar mahanta version to me (friends, no offense meant, just my views - so, please chill)
Akbar, the noble, dutiful, compassionate king, could have come to her death bed in her last moments to grant the wish of a dying one and also in gratitude for whatever good she has done to him (in my view it would be ungrateful to foget the good deeds when bad surfaces - both need to be cognized), but not as the senti over-flowing loving son Jalal. He could have still gone to her as a son, if you would want it that way, but not suddenly forget everything. It was not shown as Jalal forgiving, but coming there forgetting in the name of a son. But where is the question of forgiving when there is not an iota of repentence in the criminal??? The calling for a son also seemed a mockery, when the basic repentence for all the misdeeds done to him is not there.
Or is MA's mind that corrupt that she only thinks that what she has done is all right and that it is unfortunate that she had to loose her son (whom she tried killing though!) who has not understood her noble intentions. Maybe. Then some of the things seem to fall in place, from her end.
But then how are we going to justify her salute to Jodha? If she did not want to carry any debt, she would have stopped with retracting her bad dua and maybe, in the process make Jodha indebted by giving her a divine blessing. But why at all would she salute? Unless she is saluting her ability a.k.a. Rajvanshi ability to live up to any challenge??
And I cannot help wondering how the Hindu bandi survived till date with Jodha raising to power by the day.
The only explanation I have is, Ashwini or MA, whoever be it, make sure you salute Jodha before you go. And she had to do that formality as well hurriedly before her breath stopped. But, I wonder how Adham was not made to do this? Maybe that is why Jalal pushed him down the second time???? Or will Adham be made to appear in Jodha's dream later to state the same??
Whatever be it, my only consolation is that MA did not give a bad dua that she herself would be born as Jalal-Jodha's child and torture them away to her glory. She is merciful indeed!
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