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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: mishtidoi


Oh I too always loved their bonding, she got irritated but always tackled her, and cared for her, whenever Javeda cried or got hurt...even Resham never let MA to scold Javeda..she would always pop out her eyes if ever MA voice raised on Javeda and then she would calm down😆



Javeda was always endearing to me ... especially when she set out to save Jalal's life
Javeda- MA has been good off late
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishtidoi


Again...from where SHE is coming and NOT from where Jalal is coming...consistency here, you see😉😆



Of course ... I am very deliberate with my choice of words unlike the CVs😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: al_pal

Wonderful thought .

Thanks

I for one did not find any thing out of place in characters .

No surprises at all ... and glad Salima did not surprise you

1)rukku - we as a audience know about her true color but not other character so for them she is a women who is alone and now that every one is either haveing baby or has ababy , she is feeling more of this void of not being mother . No one knows her intentions so every one has sympathi for her .

Exactly! We the audience know too much! 😆


2)jalal -he is neither supporting rukku on her demand nor jodha on her suggestion up till now , he is being fair here . He is not going in to women angle here , for him child can not be separated from mother that is all. But he does have sympathy for his childhood friend .

Actually if anything he is firmly against giving the child to Ruq's though he sympathizes with her

3)jodha -She has sympathy for every one then why not rukku , as women she understand plight of other women pluse she values rukku as jalal's childhood friend and she for one does not want that relation to become sour .

Yes, there are multiple reasons she is doing it ... and MA needn't have been one of them 😆

4)Salima -her support to rukku is fair one as she does not know fp story and even though she knew about it she will think like jodha on same level . And divya u said perfectly as lone women she knows better than anyone what miracle is to have child , every thing else does not matter , u build ur own little world around that miracle . She is fair person too ,her thinking is rational for me

Yes, she is always rational and grounded ... and continues to be


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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

The Salima Factor made you post ? I don't know how you manage this while traveling. So 10 likes from me for time and effort. 😆

The Javeda Factor was also nice. Here is the sunshine of Agra. The free spirit. MA says Bewakoofi but what she means is that Innocence that enables Javeda to be herself in all situations.


The Jodha Factor was very clear cut for Jo and I suppose next to Javeda, the next best attempt to be true to self. I don't like tarazus being used for family relationships, balancing two courses of action, but today Jodha was balancing a double portion of blessing against emptiness. It's a no brainer and a person who has been blessed has to share the abundance with others. It's another matter that a child has no say in its early and crucial years, but that was the prevailing culture then in royal circles. Royal children are often the most restricted and regimented and shunted from one parent to another guardian for various reasons.



The Jalal Factor was thinking from a child's point of view. Jalal knows first hand about having no parents close at hand. He knows what that can do. But Jodha argues that these children will be very close and they will be together. He cannot and he should not cite Ruq's motives yet because he can't base his decisions on some fear. He feels Ruqs isn't capable of being the mother he wants her to be, but he cannot voice that until it's too late. That's why he's taking a step back and not even making his argument personal. He's just talking in general terms about children with step-parents. Let's hope he's spared the anguish of finding out he's right and Ruqs does something well before the birth and gets exposed.


The Hamida Factor is the one that the episode starts with. She states that Ruqs is Ruqs and she has known her since childhood. Love and sympathy is one thing but people can't give in to her all the time and that's final.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: PadBear


The Salima Factor made you post ? I don't know how you manage this while traveling. So 10 likes from me for time and effort. 😆

The Javeda Factor was also nice. Here is the sunshine of Agra. The free spirit. MA says Bewakoofi but what she means is that Innocence that enables Javeda to be herself in all situations.


The Jodha Factor was very clear cut for Jo and I suppose next to Javeda, the next best attempt to be true to self. I don't like tarazus being used for family relationships, balancing two courses of action, but today Jodha was balancing a double portion of blessing against emptiness. It's a no brainer and a person who has been blessed has to share the abundance with others. It's another matter that a child has no say in its early and crucial years, but that was the prevailing culture then in royal circles. Royal children are often the most restricted and regimented and shunted from one parent to another guardian for various reasons.



The Jalal Factor was thinking from a child's point of view. Jalal knows first hand about having no parents close at hand. He knows what that can do. But Jodha argues that these children will be very close and they will be together. He cannot and he should not cite Ruq's motives yet because he can't base his decisions on some fear. He feels Ruqs isn't capable of being the mother he wants her to be, but he cannot voice that until it's too late. That's why he's taking a step back and not even making his argument personal. He's just talking in general terms about children with step-parents. Let's hope he's spared the anguish of finding out he's right and Ruqs does something well before the birth and gets exposed.


The Hamida Factor is the one that the episode starts with. She states that Ruqs is Ruqs and she has known her since childhood. Love and sympathy is one thing but people can't give in to her all the time and that's final.



awesome...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: PadBear


The Salima Factor made you post ? I don't know how you manage this while traveling. So 10 likes from me for time and effort. 😆

The Javeda Factor was also nice. Here is the sunshine of Agra. The free spirit. MA says Bewakoofi but what she means is that Innocence that enables Javeda to be herself in all situations.


The Jodha Factor was very clear cut for Jo and I suppose next to Javeda, the next best attempt to be true to self. I don't like tarazus being used for family relationships, balancing two courses of action, but today Jodha was balancing a double portion of blessing against emptiness. It's a no brainer and a person who has been blessed has to share the abundance with others. It's another matter that a child has no say in its early and crucial years, but that was the prevailing culture then in royal circles. Royal children are often the most restricted and regimented and shunted from one parent to another guardian for various reasons.



The Jalal Factor was thinking from a child's point of view. Jalal knows first hand about having no parents close at hand. He knows what that can do. But Jodha argues that these children will be very close and they will be together. He cannot and he should not cite Ruq's motives yet because he can't base his decisions on some fear. He feels Ruqs isn't capable of being the mother he wants her to be, but he cannot voice that until it's too late. That's why he's taking a step back and not even making his argument personal. He's just talking in general terms about children with step-parents. Let's hope he's spared the anguish of finding out he's right and Ruqs does something well before the birth and gets exposed.


The Hamida Factor is the one that the episode starts with. She states that Ruqs is Ruqs and she has known her since childhood. Love and sympathy is one thing but people can't give in to her all the time and that's final.

awesome was just waiting for your POV
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Posted: 11 years ago
#77
Twins are not pair of kidneys that we can donate one and still survive.
Kids are more than kidneys ,livers,eyes etc.
Who is that pathetic dialogue Wirter who wrote this dialogue ,"Vachan ke liye hum pran denge phir yeh to santan hai" Pathetic morons.
Ruku is not a Padosan who has come to ask one bowl if sugar .SHE IS ASKiNG FOR KID.
If I wa Jo,I would have told Ruku ,you can take your Jalal back.But leave my kid.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Twins are not pair of kidneys that we can donate one and still survive.

Kids are more than kidneys ,livers,eyes etc.
Who is that pathetic dialogue Wirter who wrote this dialogue ,"Vachan ke liye hum pran denge phir yeh to santan hai" Pathetic morons.
Ruku is not a Padosan who has come to ask one bowl if sugar .SHE IS ASKiNG FOR KID.
If I wa Jo,I would have told Ruku ,you can take your Jalal back.But leave my kid.


yes and you are not married to Jallu who has many wives and must share him. I think I like to leave each woman to make up their own mind about these things. That's why even motherhood and all that sentiment should not cloud my wanting to give Jo the freedom to do what gives her peace of mind.


the dialogue was ridiculous yes. Phir yeh to santan hai meaning her progeny are second to her life which she is willing to give in a second to protect vachans. Life is not about being ready to die all the time. It's about being strong enough to live and live and fight to live. It's a gift from God.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: PadBear


yes and you are not married to Jallu who has many wives and must share him. I think I like to leave each woman to make up their own mind about these things. That's why even motherhood and all that sentiment should not cloud my wanting to give Jo the freedom to do what gives her peace of mind.


the dialogue was ridiculous yes. Phir yeh to santan hai meaning her progeny are second to her life which she is willing to give in a second to protect vachans. Life is not about being ready to die all the time. It's about being strong enough to live and live and fight to live. It's a gift from God.

Well said Paddy.
Rather running away from life is act of cowardice
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Posted: 11 years ago
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and Rashmi, Jalal is also a person who celebrates life. He lives life to the fullest possible. And all this talk of dying for a vachan goes over his head. So he decided to walk away. And even with Ruqs, he values her life with him all these years and respects her loyalty and companionship and there must be a deep bond there whatever we may say seeing two faced Ruqs. So he hasn't changed his behaviour towards her and is hoping against hope that somehow he won't have to confront her about his children one day. He doesn't want to give up on her unless he is forced to. For that, he has to wait and let circumstances play out. Is there some other way he can be teda here?
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