Ruq plans to demand Jodha's baby by right - using her 'wish' - Page 4

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, to be frank with the moment I saw Ruqu getting overly dressed up, I knew she is up to some evil thing and that is nothing but to get hold of the baby custody.

Guys, unlike you I am really happy that Ruqu ventured to ask for one baby custody that too kept on saying she doesn't want the first baby but the second and Jodha can have her audha which has already pissed off Jalal. And now from precap we can see that how evil she can become to snatch a baby form Jodha and this will leave a bad taste on everyone's mouth and no one will be happy with the turn of events and every one will try to look for ways to put some sense into Ruqu's thick head.

Just imagine this...

If she really had common sense, she would not have decked herself so heavily to express her despair of not becoming a mother and how she feels bad. May be because she had not heard of Ramayan where how Kaikeyi checkmated King Dasaratha (crying and weiling and not properly dressed, I mean not presentable). Had she known, she would have not dressed up and would have skipped some meals and kept to herself & confined in her own room. This would have alerted everyone and all with worries would have rushed to her and asked her for her pain an dshe wcould have then expressed how useless and how worthless she feels for not having a baby and that too when she knows the fact that she can never be a mother in her life. So she feels that there is no reason why she should live when she can't even have a child to call her Ammijaan and when she will not have any child to call her own child. There was no need for being vocal, his would have brought tears in Jodha's eyes and she herself would have decided to put one of her baby in Ruqu's hands and would have said from now on "one of the baby in my womb will be yours". The n no one would have any objection and Ruqu's wish would have been fulfilled without any drama attached and Jodha would have parted with her child.

So, now I think since Ruqu will put forth her wish in front of the DEK, Jalal may say, "Aa a Shehenshah, he has no power to order a mother to handover her child to someone else. And as a father, his rights are limited as the mother has major right on the child and that too when the child is small, a mother has all the right of custody. So she can ask for something else which is in his control. (I am still not sure about the second wish from Jodha as I was under the impression that Jodha asked Ruqu to have her wish fulfilled first and she will ask for her wish later. {as Ruqu has that right (to get her wish granted)being the first wife}. However if Jodha had given a wish to Ruq, then Ruqu may use this as an opportunity to ask for that wish or if doesn't have any wish left (only wish was given by Jalal), then Jodha may say as a wife, she care for her husband's virtue and she doesn't want him to go back on his vachan, so she will give one of her child to Ruqu. This might increase Jodha's level among the DEK as well as among the subjects.

I don't think Salima may use her wish now and nullify Ruqu's wish. But I think Hamida may over rule this on later stage once BB's child would die may be due to some carelessness by some one and Ruqu may be shown unaffected or may be the incident happens in Ruqu's presence where she could have saved the child with some presence of mind. Quoting this, HB may say the baby will not be given to Ruqu as she doesn't have the capability to rise a child.

btw, what the hell is happening in Agra still. How could they allow Resham to visit Maham? Mahma is supposed to be in the Dark Jail where no one comes to her contact right? And where are Chand Begum and Nigar? Did Nigar got her Delhi Taqth?

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

Wonderful post and very good predictions by Maddy,Diksha and Gem... lets see how it plays

Whatever theories and predictions we may have about this track.. but ultimately we all know that the twins will die..so sad... but yes Ruks will also never become MUZ whatever she plans.. Good always wins over evil.. I hope Ruks learns the hard way... desperately waiting when Ruks will be punished.. But alas our wait seems never ending... I hope Jalal starts detesting her from this very moment..that will give me some solace atleast...

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Hi Mansi,

Very good theories by all of you.

Biwis and bacche:-

For Shehenshah now letter " B" is troublesome.First his Brother ,Badi Ammi,Bakshi,Bakshi Baby ,Brother in law,Biwis,Babies,Batwara of babies.So Shehenshah shouldn't even call himself Badshah.

But yes it's going to create a lot of drama now.

I was really confused that Ruku was first arguing that mother of a male heir becomes MUZ then why she is in so haste.Because she doesn't know what will be the result.

I had thought that ,this girl reform drama during Bakshi's pregnancy track was something to do with Ruku track.Actually I thought ,first Jalal will try to declare that whatever is the result ,whether it is a male or female heir ,the mother of first born child will become MUZ and the girl child might also claim the throne.He might face some opposition from the maulvis and all but later on he will pass the law.Then Ruku will come to know that ,now whatever is the result either boys or girls ,no issues for becoming MUZ and then she will make this wish.

But in a rush they brought this track.Else now it's not at all a favorable situation for her as if Jo has both girls or if she has one boy and one girl and the first one is boy then?

But she asking for the second child was but obvious becoz if she had asked for the first child then all her plan would be out that she is trying to become MUZ..

For me it seems there are two possibilities :-

1) Jalal will refuse but since Ruku shows the farman so Jo will agree to save her husband's respect.

She is gonna give the example of Kanhaji having two moms.

2) Else if Jalal refuses then Ruku will come with another plan.She will try to do some fake saazish of killing Jo but infact ,she will herself come to save Jo .Here she might falsely frame Resham and Maham.Since Jajo are happy to see Ruku saving Jo ,so they will accept her wish.Now when Maham comes to know about she being falsely framed by Ruks,she will then expose Ruku.

Also they showed the Maham and Jo segment.Where Maham looked like she has lost her mental balance,But I think in reality we will see that she is "acting".So if Ruku gets a child ,then Maham will try to contact her or Ruku herself will go to her as usual and while showing off her smartness might blurt out her plan of becoming MUZ.Then MA will point out that with a second child how can she be MUZ? Then Ruku will plan to kill Jo or her first baby.

In that segment of MA and Jo they said that MA later on is gonna hug Jo,So this means Jo's repeated attempts of reconciling with MA will finally melt MA and then she might blurt out everything about Ruku to save Jo.This way our MA will be Mahaan before dying.

PS :- I was so happy to see Lady Pearl singing Lori.So she knows something .Else she is never shown doing any work.

Ruku went with hair open to Jalal.She is copying Jo so much .First she learned Jo's Lori and now she is learning how to impress Jallu.

And her singing was mashallah .It reminded me of those people who roam on the streets during night when they are " High" on something.

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Very good analysis as always Mansi . I also liked all three theories that you presented .

Today's episode left me angry on two counts . Firstly because of the impossible BEK and secondly because Sharifuddin did not miss his third opportunity to 'feel' Jodha's hand while handing over the baby to her . Its time both these irritating characters said goodbye .

It was bad enough having to hear Rukkaiyya sing ( rather screech) the lori , worse still was her shedding crocodile tears in front of the Shehenshah asking him for one of the twins . The nerve of this impossible queen . Even though a shocked Jalal flatly refused her request , we know that this manipulative queen has a plan up her sleeve ( as the precap indicated ) . I am hoping and keeping my fingers crossed for Jalal never to pay heed to her request .

Her intentions for wanting a twin are ignoble and far from motherly . It is solely to feed her ego and make her feel good about her audha of MUZ . Vanity thy name is Rukkaiyya .

Possessiveness , vanity , pride , thirst for power and jealousy have made Rukkaiyya neurotically insecure . She is treading a path of self destruction .

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

Wonderful post and very good predictions by Maddy,Diksha and Gem... lets see how it plays

Whatever theories and predictions we may have about this track.. but ultimately we all know that the twins will die..so sad... but yes Ruks will also never become MUZ whatever she plans.. Good always wins over evil.. I hope Ruks learns the hard way... desperately waiting when Ruks will be punished.. But alas our wait seems never ending... I hope Jalal starts detesting her from this very moment..that will give me some solace atleast...

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Nice analysis Mansi.
Farman makes Jalal helpless or not this shouldn't b the issue of Jalal at present. After spending time with ruq frm childhood n recently being foolish by ruq's accha khasa pretending if jalal again wants to fall in her trap seeing her previous type weeping,pleading then he can fall but atleast as a would b father Jalal thousand times thinks before accepting Ruq's demand(whatever helpless or no helpless) to whom his baby is gonna to rare up, is she eligible to b good mother where she herself has no control on her, has bad additiction on somking, don't have any manner that how to talk with other cordially, for own self she can b cunning hence what wl learn his baby under ruq's upbringing!
Mansi, all u r saying SB wl use her *wish* for stopping to snatch baby frm Jodha but my question why sb have to sacrifice her wish for stopping ruq where as this issue is among jj n ruq so is it not responsible of TE to find out his Jaan begum's(i desperately again wish Jalal himself find out way to stop ruq n understand her real plan) real motivation before snatching baby frm Jodha! Otherwise till date Jalal is always double partial n very welly to show sloppy when the issues r abt ruq n her guilts.

Originally posted by: chitterati

Mansi...I am taking this track with a pinch of salt.i firmly believe this is the beginning of the end for Ruk. However, I should probably settle down at rann of kutch for the amount of salt I need to to Abel to see Ruk cozy put Jalal on bed! I hope things get better from today

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, to be frank with the moment I saw Ruqu getting overly dressed up, I knew she is up to some evil thing and that is nothing but to get hold of the baby custody.

Guys, unlike you I am really happy that Ruqu ventured to ask for one baby custody that too kept on saying she doesn't want the first baby but the second and Jodha can have her audha which has already pissed off Jalal. And now from precap we can see that how evil she can become to snatch a baby form Jodha and this will leave a bad taste on everyone's mouth and no one will be happy with the turn of events and every one will try to look for ways to put some sense into Ruqu's thick head.

Just imagine this...

If she really had common sense, she would not have decked herself so heavily to express her despair of not becoming a mother and how she feels bad. May be because she had not heard of Ramayan where how Kaikeyi checkmated King Dasaratha (crying and weiling and not properly dressed, I mean not presentable). Had she known, she would have not dressed up and would have skipped some meals and kept to herself & confined in her own room. This would have alerted everyone and all with worries would have rushed to her and asked her for her pain an dshe wcould have then expressed how useless and how worthless she feels for not having a baby and that too when she knows the fact that she can never be a mother in her life. So she feels that there is no reason why she should live when she can't even have a child to call her Ammijaan and when she will not have any child to call her own child. There was no need for being vocal, his would have brought tears in Jodha's eyes and she herself would have decided to put one of her baby in Ruqu's hands and would have said from now on "one of the baby in my womb will be yours". The n no one would have any objection and Ruqu's wish would have been fulfilled without any drama attached and Jodha would have parted with her child.

So, now I think since Ruqu will put forth her wish in front of the DEK, Jalal may say, "Aa a Shehenshah, he has no power to order a mother to handover her child to someone else. And as a father, his rights are limited as the mother has major right on the child and that too when the child is small, a mother has all the right of custody. So she can ask for something else which is in his control. (I am still not sure about the second wish from Jodha as I was under the impression that Jodha asked Ruqu to have her wish fulfilled first and she will ask for her wish later. {as Ruqu has that right (to get her wish granted)being the first wife}. However if Jodha had given a wish to Ruq, then Ruqu may use this as an opportunity to ask for that wish or if doesn't have any wish left (only wish was given by Jalal), then Jodha may say as a wife, she care for her husband's virtue and she doesn't want him to go back on his vachan, so she will give one of her child to Ruqu. This might increase Jodha's level among the DEK as well as among the subjects.

I don't think Salima may use her wish now and nullify Ruqu's wish. But I think Hamida may over rule this on later stage once BB's child would die may be due to some carelessness by some one and Ruqu may be shown unaffected or may be the incident happens in Ruqu's presence where she could have saved the child with some presence of mind. Quoting this, HB may say the baby will not be given to Ruqu as she doesn't have the capability to rise a child.

btw, what the hell is happening in Agra still. How could they allow Resham to visit Maham? Mahma is supposed to be in the Dark Jail where no one comes to her contact right? And where are Chand Begum and Nigar? Did Nigar got her Delhi Taqth?

Originally posted by: deejagi

She was dressed up to seduce him and was it required to get the child custody? It was as if she wanted him to imp regnant her in that very moment, so that she can have her child...

Originally posted by: skanda12

Very very interesting theories Rashmi. Now we added more to our list of possible theories. My head is spinning frakly. All I know is that I have one goal: Ruq exposure and punishment. All the erst is speculation for me till she is caught and ruthlessly punished. For that one thing I am prepared to put up with this dratted track. Only problem: we have to see a daily dose fo Ruq at her worst till she gets caught! Oh my God!