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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
Mansi, thanks to you & everybody else for sharing so many theories.
I actually felt the episode was not that bad. Jalal was firm in his opinion, JJ had nice moments.
I ignored Shariff & Ruq & also the besura song.

About the baby sharing I had this confusion, why Ruq is asking for the second baby? Does she want to show everybody that she is not after the title, but later on try to kill the elder one? So that Jodha does not have anyone & she will have the baby & also the tile.

If Ruq had not attached the Muz angle with this baby sharing issue, I would have really felt sympathetic for her, but as we all know that was not the case, so the sympathy dried up..

Anyway let's see how the story unfolds... Take care.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: deejagi



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🤣I can't believe this and I can't laugh now as already my boss glared at me for laughing 🤣



sorry
u know more terrified thing happened my niece was watching movie
Snow white
here comes
mirror mirror on the wall who's the fairest of them all

I was like ek aur ruq aaj my baby will say mom gone nuts
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: preetgurti



sorry
u know more terrified thing happened my niece was watching movie
Snow white
here comes
mirror mirror on the wall who's the fairest of them all

I was like ek aur ruq aaj my baby will say mom gone nuts

So sad your baby. But frankly off late whenever I see Ruqu with that witchy smirk, it reminds me ot the Victoria of Twilight series or that witch from Horry potter. In most cases Victoria as initially I had imagined her while reading book with certain degree of witchyness (even before the movies released),
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Awesome post Mansi...😊 and nice predictions by Diksha, Maddy and Gem.

I for one want Jo and Ja to figure out that ruk is not doing this because she craves to be mother but to gain the MUZ title. See she has never shown any motherly feeling with Rahim or now even for BB's kid instead she was busy arguing over how boy child is preferable over a girl..😳

Mansi do you think Salima will counter ruqs wish with hers?
I am totally against this wish granting business😡 what if tomorrow some other begum with farmaan comes asking for another baby 😵. You can't blackmail emperor like this to earn whatever you want. This would set a bad example for sure. Ja-Jo should not grant ruq what she wants after she has dragged this personal matter to DEK.

Precap shows another blunder by ruqs. She is foolish...plain and simple.
Actually I did not get at all why she went to Jalal to ask for baby all decked up 🥱
she should have confined to her room show like she is under some kind of depression due to not being able to be a mother.
This would have defo melt both Ja-Jo and she would have got what she wanted even without farmaan...ok I should stop giving (bad) ideas to ruk...😆.

Looks like we are in for more ruk torture this week, I can bear it only in hope to get ruq exposed(will we ever get to see this???)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55
I reserved post on page 2 but posting here again. I had made this thread yesterday night. Mansi - please be prepared for LOT of venting!

Yesterday's episode and precap was really disappointing.

It was the kind of episode where leads are turned helpless and vamps and villains seem to be winning. So CVs favorite kind of episode!

I felt like cursing CVs for doing this to Jalal. They are going to do the same to Jodha tomorrow. 😡😡😡

How can Jalal even consider this? This is what he seemed to be thinking when he went to meet Jodha. Doesn't he remember his own childhood spent away from HB? Doesn't Jalal understand Ruk even a bit! How can he forget what Ruk can do after seeing her faking pregnancy?!

Jalal was NOT suspicious when Ruk came to him all dressed up like a Christmas tree?!!! With open hair and big fake tears? Why did she need to dress up if she was feeling SAD for herself not having a baby?

Of course seeing Ruk ask for her wish in DEK and Jalal so upset about it - Jodha is going to say yes to giving baby to Ruk. I WISH Jodha can say that it is her baby also and she does not want to give it to Ruk.

However, Jodha cannot stand by and see Jalal having to go back on his granted wish and get humiliated publicly. Ruk wants to take advantage of this fact and get the baby.

Here is what I would love for Jodha to do.

Jodha should ask Ruk if given word fulfilling wish is sacrosanct? Of course Ruk will say yes.

I want Jodha to say since Jalal has granted wish and he will never go back on his promise - just to honor HIS promise Jodha is willing to give the baby to Ruk.

Then Jodha should ask Ruk if Jalal fulfilled his wish and does Ruk agree to this. Ruk would say yes.

Then Jodha should ask Ruk if she remembers SHE had given a promise to Jodha - when Jodha had saved Jalal's life by drinking poison - Ruk had given her a promise that except Jalal, Jodha can ask for anything once and Ruk will fulfill it.

Jodha should tell Ruk for the wish Ruk has given Jodha - Jodha is asking for her baby back.

So Jalal will have fulfilled HIS wish granted to Ruk but Jodha and Jalal will not have to give their baby to Ruk.


I do not want to see Ruk winning. I do not want to see Jalal and Jodha made helpless and get taken in by this emotional blackmail.

I have no hopes from these CVs! What we most probably will get to see is Jodha will say yes just cos she does not want Jalal to lose face. Ruk will get what she wants and she will gloat and smirk and plot to harm Jodha's baby. So her baby becomes waris and she becomes MUZ.

Dread CVS will get Ruk hang around Jodha and Jalal all the time in pregnancy not giving them alone time - how we faced after SR episode.
Cos JA CVs enjoy watching vamps and villains win for 25 episodes and spare 1 episode for leads winning!

Brace for 18-20 of mins of screen time for Ruk all over the place and hanging around Jodha. She will do utmost to not give alone time to JodhaJalal again "in her NOW SUDDEN desire of taking care of pregnant Jodha" 😡😡😡

If they show Ruk win, get baby and spoil whatever is remaining of Jodha's pathetic uncared for pregnancy - I hope they get such a massive kick of TRPs.

Let us see if they have learnt the lesson of Ruk fake pregnancy track?!
I don't have much confidence!

MA's so called downfall whatever the CVs showed so far IS BIG FAT DISAPPOINTING and I am SURE Ruk's bhandafod is going to leave us all feeling HUGELY DISAPPOINTED AS WELL. CVs will somehow make her the focus and poor Ruk again!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: indigodevi

Mansi, thanks to you & everybody else for sharing so many theories.

I actually felt the episode was not that bad. Jalal was firm in his opinion, JJ had nice moments.
I ignored Shariff & Ruq & also the besura song.

About the baby sharing I had this confusion, why Ruq is asking for the second baby? Does she want to show everybody that she is not after the title, but later on try to kill the elder one? So that Jodha does not have anyone & she will have the baby & also the tile.

If Ruq had not attached the Muz angle with this baby sharing issue, I would have really felt sympathetic for her, but as we all know that was not the case, so the sympathy dried up..

Anyway let's see how the story unfolds... Take care.

She does not want the baby at all ... its all audha, audha, audha!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rasika29

Awesome post Mansi...😊 and nice predictions by Diksha, Maddy and Gem.

I for one want Jo and Ja to figure out that ruk is not doing this because she craves to be mother but to gain the MUZ title. See she has never shown any motherly feeling with Rahim or now even for BB's kid instead she was busy arguing over how boy child is preferable over a girl..😳

Mansi do you think Salima will counter ruqs wish with hers?
I am totally against this wish granting business😡 what if tomorrow some other begum with farmaan comes asking for another baby 😵. You can't blackmail emperor like this to earn whatever you want. This would set a bad example for sure. Ja-Jo should not grant ruq what she wants after she has dragged this personal matter to DEK.

Precap shows another blunder by ruqs. She is foolish...plain and simple.
Actually I did not get at all why she went to Jalal to ask for baby all decked up 🥱
she should have confined to her room show like she is under some kind of depression due to not being able to be a mother.
This would have defo melt both Ja-Jo and she would have got what she wanted even without farmaan...ok I should stop giving (bad) ideas to ruk...😆.

Looks like we are in for more ruk torture this week, I can bear it only in hope to get ruq exposed(will we ever get to see this???)

I am setting great hopes on Salima's wish because
a. Why would they give Salima a wish if she is never going to use it?
b. Salima is not the type to wish for something for herself, so I feel she will help Jo
c. I think Salima will be the first to realise that Ruq is doing all this not for a baby but for audha!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Hi Mansi,

Very good theories by all of you.
Biwis and bacche:-
For Shehenshah now letter " B" is troublesome.First his Brother ,Badi Ammi,Bakshi,Bakshi Baby ,Brother in law,Biwis,Babies,Batwara of babies.So Shehenshah shouldn't even call himself Badshah.
But yes it's going to create a lot of drama now.
I was really confused that Ruku was first arguing that mother of a male heir becomes MUZ then why she is in so haste.Because she doesn't know what will be the result.
I had thought that ,this girl reform drama during Bakshi's pregnancy track was something to do with Ruku track.Actually I thought ,first Jalal will try to declare that whatever is the result ,whether it is a male or female heir ,the mother of first born child will become MUZ and the girl child might also claim the throne.He might face some opposition from the maulvis and all but later on he will pass the law.Then Ruku will come to know that ,now whatever is the result either boys or girls ,no issues for becoming MUZ and then she will make this wish.
But in a rush they brought this track.Else now it's not at all a favorable situation for her as if Jo has both girls or if she has one boy and one girl and the first one is boy then?
But she asking for the second child was but obvious becoz if she had asked for the first child then all her plan would be out that she is trying to become MUZ..
For me it seems there are two possibilities :-
1) Jalal will refuse but since Ruku shows the farman so Jo will agree to save her husband's respect.
She is gonna give the example of Kanhaji having two moms.
2) Else if Jalal refuses then Ruku will come with another plan.She will try to do some fake saazish of killing Jo but infact ,she will herself come to save Jo .Here she might falsely frame Resham and Maham.Since Jajo are happy to see Ruku saving Jo ,so they will accept her wish.Now when Maham comes to know about she being falsely framed by Ruks,she will then expose Ruku.
Also they showed the Maham and Jo segment.Where Maham looked like she has lost her mental balance,But I think in reality we will see that she is "acting".So if Ruku gets a child ,then Maham will try to contact her or Ruku herself will go to her as usual and while showing off her smartness might blurt out her plan of becoming MUZ.Then MA will point out that with a second child how can she be MUZ? Then Ruku will plan to kill Jo or her first baby.
In that segment of MA and Jo they said that MA later on is gonna hug Jo,So this means Jo's repeated attempts of reconciling with MA will finally melt MA and then she might blurt out everything about Ruku to save Jo.This way our MA will be Mahaan before dying.
PS :- I was so happy to see Lady Pearl singing Lori.So she knows something .Else she is never shown doing any work.
Ruku went with hair open to Jalal.She is copying Jo so much .First she learned Jo's Lori and now she is learning how to impress Jallu.
And her singing was mashallah .It reminded me of those people who roam on the streets during night when they are " High" on something.



Rashmi, your theory about Ruqu plotting to assassin Jodha and then later save her and blame Maham or Resham was good but how will Jalal believe as he himself has put Maham in Kalal Kotri where no one can contact her? Moreover, how did Ruqu came to know about this etc will creep up.
But yes, Maham can instigate Ruqu to kill Jodha & later will reveal this truth to Jodha when she pays visit to become a MAHAN or to show how she succeeded in killing her children even while sitting in the prison and how she used a royal to kill Jodha's children. May be whatever the poison given Ruqu (mentioning to kill Jodha) may be to kill the children only and not Jodha as Maham's curse was to see Jodha & Jalal cry for their children's death.
With this she will kill 3 birds in one stone, that too not thrown by her...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi nice analysis as always and some good theories too. I dont mind which way it plays out as long as ruqqaiya doesnt get the kids even for a single day. Although i personally feel that ruqqaiya may not try killing jo or the kids coz if she does that then in no way would jalal spare her. He would kill her on the spot for harming his kids n jo would not be able to stop him. Not even her next wish would be able to save her. So i think it could be smthg as simple as jo n jalal thinking ruqqaiya is craving for a kid n then they hear her talking to hoshiyar or someone else that she doesnt care abt the kid but the MUZ audha only n it may bring the truth in front of jalal. I m saying so coz remember she said y cant there b two MUZ. That means she has no plans to remove jodha from the post but only to add herself to it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, to be frank with the moment I saw Ruqu getting overly dressed up, I knew she is up to some evil thing and that is nothing but to get hold of the baby custody.

Guys, unlike you I am really happy that Ruqu ventured to ask for one baby custody that too kept on saying she doesn't want the first baby but the second and Jodha can have her audha which has already pissed off Jalal. And now from precap we can see that how evil she can become to snatch a baby form Jodha and this will leave a bad taste on everyone's mouth and no one will be happy with the turn of events and every one will try to look for ways to put some sense into Ruqu's thick head.
Just imagine this...
If she really had common sense, she would not have decked herself so heavily to express her despair of not becoming a mother and how she feels bad. May be because she had not heard of Ramayan where how Kaikeyi checkmated King Dasaratha (crying and weiling and not properly dressed, I mean not presentable). Had she known, she would have not dressed up and would have skipped some meals and kept to herself & confined in her own room. This would have alerted everyone and all with worries would have rushed to her and asked her for her pain an dshe wcould have then expressed how useless and how worthless she feels for not having a baby and that too when she knows the fact that she can never be a mother in her life. So she feels that there is no reason why she should live when she can't even have a child to call her Ammijaan and when she will not have any child to call her own child. There was no need for being vocal, his would have brought tears in Jodha's eyes and she herself would have decided to put one of her baby in Ruqu's hands and would have said from now on "one of the baby in my womb will be yours". The n no one would have any objection and Ruqu's wish would have been fulfilled without any drama attached and Jodha would have parted with her child.
So, now I think since Ruqu will put forth her wish in front of the DEK, Jalal may say, "Aa a Shehenshah, he has no power to order a mother to handover her child to someone else. And as a father, his rights are limited as the mother has major right on the child and that too when the child is small, a mother has all the right of custody. So she can ask for something else which is in his control. (I am still not sure about the second wish from Jodha as I was under the impression that Jodha asked Ruqu to have her wish fulfilled first and she will ask for her wish later. {as Ruqu has that right (to get her wish granted)being the first wife}. However if Jodha had given a wish to Ruq, then Ruqu may use this as an opportunity to ask for that wish or if doesn't have any wish left (only wish was given by Jalal), then Jodha may say as a wife, she care for her husband's virtue and she doesn't want him to go back on his vachan, so she will give one of her child to Ruqu. This might increase Jodha's level among the DEK as well as among the subjects.
I don't think Salima may use her wish now and nullify Ruqu's wish. But I think Hamida may over rule this on later stage once BB's child would die may be due to some carelessness by some one and Ruqu may be shown unaffected or may be the incident happens in Ruqu's presence where she could have saved the child with some presence of mind. Quoting this, HB may say the baby will not be given to Ruqu as she doesn't have the capability to rise a child.
btw, what the hell is happening in Agra still. How could they allow Resham to visit Maham? Mahma is supposed to be in the Dark Jail where no one comes to her contact right? And where are Chand Begum and Nigar? Did Nigar got her Delhi Taqth?



Awesome post Jaya...👏

@bold me too thought the same thing...😃 what a way to express the despair.

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