HE questioned 'HIS Shadow' BUT answer came from 'SOUL'.!.Updt-Pg28 - Page 9

Originally posted by: surochitadutta

Radhika... I stand up and salute you for this wonderful piece of writing... Each and every line of your post so beautifully depicted the Sahansha which we saw in last few episodes... Beautiful beautiful post.. It was a treat to read...

Originally posted by: Donjas

Abhay,I don't know how much praise I can lavish on this marvelous piece of writing. You have once again shown us the big picture.

This historical story is no bed of roses, tremendous hardships have to endured, great losses have to borne but the cumulative effect is still worth remembering with a positive state of mind. After all, it is the way you handle hardships that is a true measure of the human spirit, the stuff of legends.

Abhay, your post once again proves you are indispensable. If our forum is like a hotel then it gets an extra star just by your presence.

It helps that your thread usually houses the other star, Radhika. Wow!, Our hotel is already up to 2 stars.

Originally posted by: surochitadutta

Today as the all mighty Sahansha stood numb

infront of the Insaf Ka Tarazoo after loosing his

very last connection with his childhood , recalling

the poisonous words uttered by the lady who has

raised him, who was once his mother, his Badi

Ammi... Made him realise the heavy price he had

to pay for being The SAHANSHA OF MUGHAL

SULTANATE...

Unable to bear this he resorted to vigorous

drinking to erase his pain in DEK.. The pain is

choking him, the ghost of his past is haunting

him, the fear of losing his children is disturbing

him and he realised it was all because of thakt

on which he sits everyday.. The reason for his

suffering is this "Taakt"... His own people

betrayed him to get this "Taakt " on which he

sits and rules... His own people who was 'Aziz'

to him told that they love him was actually

pretending to be affectionate to fulfill their own

ambition from the powers which are associated

with "THE TAAKT, He lost all those whom he

loved from his Khan Baba to his Atga Sahab

because "THE Taakt".. He paid a heavy price

throughout all this years to get this "Taakt " and

to retain it... The price of being The SAHANSHA,

The Price of being "Invincible", was the life and

love of his near and dear ones... He realised that

the root cause of all his agony and discontent

was "Taakt Of Mughal Sultanate " so he decided

to uproot that very cause and without even

giving a second thought he burned "The Taakt "

to end this agony once and for all...

While all these feelings were going on in his

mind his Heart was engulfed and overwhelmed

by the feeling of loneliness... This loneliness was

killing him from inside and finally when Jodha

came he brought out all of his agony, his

aghast, his anger, his anguish, his pain, his

frustration, his loneliness which he has been

feeling all these years...

Jodha perfectly understood him and his needs...

SHE understood that the only thing he needs

was her love, her support, her warmth, her

closeness... She knew that the only thing which

can heal his aching heart was her love, the only

thing that can remove his loneliness was her

warmth, the only thing that can give him peace

was her embrace... So she with all her love

pulled him close and assured him and reminded

him that their relationship is not because of his

"Taakt" or "Taj"... She did not love him because

he is The SAHANSHA... She loves Jalal the man

and continue to do so till eternity... She will

always be there for him and with him no matter

how worst the situation may be... She will

always be there with him even if their parents,

friends and children leaves his side... His Jodha

will forever be with him even after they have long

left this materialistic world... By her words he

found new hope and a new reason to survive

and peacefully fell asleep as soon as she took

him in her warm embrace.. He slept like a child

in the arms of the person with whom he feels

safe and protected and loved forgetting all his

sufferings and worries... Today they merged into

eachother in every way and became one entity

From Here begins a new phase a new journey

with the hope of a better tomorrow where there

will be so much love, respect and togetherness

of a lifetime... From here begins the "EPIC LOVE

STORY " which will be told and retold in every

era to come... Life will take their test and that

also the toughest one but with eachothers Saath

they will not only withstand these tests but also

pass with flying colours ... From today Jodha

became Jalals shadow and in every sense his

"Wali Nimat "

Their love and togetherness will rise as a sun

which comes after a long dark night which will

give warmth light, life and happiness to the

entire Hindustan... And Hindustan will only keep

thriving and prospering under their

guardianship...

Today I found that Akbar And Marriam Uz Zamani

about whom I have read in Abhay's post in

Eakta's Jalal and Jodha.. Today it showed us the

beginning of the The eternal and divine love

which was there between Akbar and MUZ and

will be there between them till the end of time...

This is what I have always wanted to see in the

show and I am glad that I am finally getting what

I wanted...

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Bang on . This is exactly my point too . Why even include such a "ghatiya " dialogue in the form of a curse . History clearly says that the twins did not make it past a couple of months due to health issues . Now instead of stating the obvious historically , it will be dramatically shown that BADI AMMI's wicked prophecies worked on Jodha and Jalal . Hence the babies died . Why give negativity so much importance .

Having said this , in order to maintain my sanity and positivity , from now onwards every time either Mahamanga or a negative equivalent comes on screen , I will either fast forward or get up and walk away .

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Very very beautifully written Radhika .

Jodha is indeed the strength that Jalal needs right now . She is the balm for his emotional wounds .

TOGETHER they will victoriously face all obstacles in life .

Today , I loved their scene together . Paridhi Sharma was outstanding .

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Simply awesome post Radhika . I am at a loss of words to describe my feelings after reading your write up . To be honest , I was extremely upset after seeing the manner in which Mahamanga had cursed the soon to be parents , Jodha and Jalal . Yelling , screaming , cursing are all a big NO NO for me , be it in real life or on screen .

I have calmed down after reading both your and Abhay's post . Instead of allowing the negativity of the vile lady to take over my sanity , I'm happy that I got to read two beautiful , positive , uplifting posts .

Thank you both ABHAY and RADHIKA .

CHARU .

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi all,

This thread is in continuation, of my last thread, and hence I am referring this as Part-2. I have re-posted that post Below this main post.

Abhay, Amaging Post, Your Two posts, Became me thoughtless. First i want to write About this, Your two posts, direct touch, SOUL,👏 👏 👏 👏, Speechless, When somethings direct touch, Soul, then Goose Bumps, its a Priceless Movement, we live in a mediatation period. Thats very tough, But which thoughless, time comes, first can't write in words, second,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; i also felt,, Which in BUDDH Language ::::::::::::::::::SAKSHI BHAV, & thoughless Both , reading these two posts.👏 👏 👏 👏

That thread dealt with HIM , who had suffered excruciating moments, who kept losing HIS near ones, viz. HIS father ; HIS regent; HIS Ataliq ; and now suffering from the BETRAYAL of HIS Foster Mother ; and the extremely diabolic act of HIS Foster Brother.. Almighty Destined HIM to be THE Shahenshah of this LAND, but in return gave HIM intense pain...HE stood tall amidst ALL Adversities, because HE had HIS 2 pillars Intact, viz. HIS Regent and HIS Foster Mother... But FATE made BOTH of them go against HIM...The Universe has a Strange yet BASIC Rule, that everything which LOST comes back to you in another Form. In HIS Regent and HIS Foster Mother, HE lost HIS emotional and political edifice. The political LOSS has been accounted for slowly, but the Emotional one takes time to Heal the Heart. The Journey of Healing HAD Already Started, and the seeds were sown at Sambhar.

Agree,, All mighty, Destinated, him, to be, The," Shahenshah, of this Land ", Actually, He understood, his two pillers, His Well-wishers. He thought, One is like Mother +One his Father,

but they both start, to complete his ambitions, & they want, He became," Kathputali" of their Ambitions & took decesions, acc to their Ambitions +desires.

Father or Mother like People,Not Curses their Child, not does, Selifish creations;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So Both piller wants Akbar should not use His Brain, They want to tackle Kingdom, Own way.

But God has decided, much better for Akbar,;;;;;;;;;; Thank to God, THEIR REAL FACE Come, in front of Jalal.⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

First times feels, Sadness, But Its Good, in this way, we can see, who are honest, or Dishonest.Agree, we breake, but Awareness comes which is necessary.

Which realtion giving so much pain, or creating problems, or Backstubbing, thank to God they are going to be finish.

( i recalled, Yashoda, Krishna Mother, Their Love, ) Yashoda, not stop path of Krishna, Nothing Demand, i know both things are different, But Which Love, these piller talking about,

Is they know Meaning of Love,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Surprise is this, first they not accepted their Mistakes, second in the Name of LOVE, they again Manuplating Jalal, So, These piller away from Jalal with the help of God. So Atleast, God & Universre, started, to Wrote, To Soul-Mates story. So if God is deciding for us, Sure that will be Priceless.

Yes agree seeds are sown in Sambhar, God Binding two unknown persons coming days SUCH A UNBELIVEABLE LOVE- STORY, will be written, by Hands of God, which will become, Memorable, & NO END;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So GOD Has MAJOR PLANS FOR AKDHA,So Cheap people can't not destroy that,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Same Happened,;;;;;;;;We are feeling proud to writing such people,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ They are Alive,👏 👏 👏 👏 Who remembers, That Pillers.😆 😆

I had talked about those TWO beings , who will transcend barriers of ALL kinds and ultimately culminate into a Single Entity - an entity which has the potential to change the history of Hindustan - an entity which evolves after merging of soul/mind/heart/body - and FINALLY , an entity which REFUSES to distinguish between THE Self and THE Other , thereby Unshackling the Eternal Saga, registered in the annals of TIME, which nourished THE Land called Hindustan ... Here, the process of Evolution was the defining period, for evolution is a tightly coupled DANCE, where LIFE and MATERIALISTIC Environment are the ONLY participants...The one who rises above BOTH emerges the VICTOR...Jodha and Akbar are the names registered in thatbook of Victors..

Abhay Akdha are sure Blessing, you & others also, How beautifully you saying your words.👏 👏 👏

Song land;;Doo Sitaro kaa Jami par hee Milan, Aaj kee Rat, sari Duniya Dulha Atti hee Nazr Aaj kee Rat.

In that thread, I had expressed GREAT faith on the Creatives of Jodha Akbar...Fortunately, till now, it is on expected LINES...There I had written about the expectations from the Creatives, and HERE I want to THANK them for Proceeding in the Right Direction..How.?. Read on, and you will come to know...

Thanks, Them, but Please Maintain this Thanks dignity. advice to Creatives.😆 😆

The Legends (and their Legendary Story) are being brought ALIVE on our screens... The SCRIPTS were Written by THE PAST...The INK was LENDED by THE UNIVERSE...The DIRECTION was by THE DIVINE itself...The PROFITS were reaped by THEIR HINDUSTAN... The MOVIE was witnessed by THE LUCKIEST People...The NUANCES are DISCUSSED at PRESENT...AND...The SAGA will be SUNG by THE FUTURE...

Abhay, I think reading this, UNIVERSE IS GOING TO BE HAPPY😃 😃 😃 😃 saga will be sung by THE FUTURE,

So Song to Banta hee;😆 😆 😆 😆

Jo vaada kiya woh nibhaana padega😳
Roke jamaana chaahe roke khudaay😉
tumako aana padega🤗

Tarasatee nigaaho ne aawaaj dee hai😉
Mohabbat kee aaho ne aawaaj dee hai😃
Jaane haya jaane ada chhodo tarsaana😉
Tumako aana padega🤗

Yeh maana hame jaan se jaana padega⭐️
Par yeh samajh lo tumane jab bhee pukaara🤗
Tumako aana padega...🤗

Ham apanee wafa pe na iljaam lenge
Tumhe dil diya hai tumhe jaan bhee denge🤗
Jab ishk kaa sauda kiya, phir kya ghabraana🤗
Hamako aana padega...🤗.

Chamakate hain jab tak yeh chaand aur tare⭐️
Na tutenge abb keh do paiman hamaare⭐️
Ek dusara jab de sada hoke dewaana🤗
Hamako aana padega🤗

Friends,

Here, I am going to talk about the DEFINING stage where the relationship of Jodha and Akbar has reached...Till now, we had seen both of them expecting something from each other. Like - Jalal expected Jodha to understand his PLAN in the recently concluded Atifa track and have faith that he still Loves her ; and Jodha expected Jalal to read the pain and devotion in her Eyes that she is PURE and Loyal to him in the Sujamal track...Both of them expected a LOT, but they never got the Desired Result/Reciprocation SIMULTANEOUSLY...

But, yesterday, we saw something Different...Let me proceed step by step...Jalal KNEW whom he can share his grief with, at the moment when the Entire World appeared Barren to HIS Soul...The MAN had Just returned back to his human form' after the gruesome punishment to his Foster Brother...Few Days back he had LOST' his Foster Mother , and today his MOST Aziz' Foster Father. The scene shifts to Jodha's Hojra where Jalal enters like a Lifeless Body, unknown of the fact that he is drenched in the Blood of his Brother, and his face Barely clear...And, Jodha is seen as NUMB after watching her husband lending justice' in the most gruesome manner...He touched her...She repelled...He went further...She went back...Jalal was NOT able to Figure Out the Reaction of his wife momentarily, until he HIMself saw his Face in the Mirror...And, went Back, to wash away his act'. Just as Jalal "STARTED" to "MOVE AWAY", Jodha was taken off From her state of "Fear / Un-consciousness Self-Denial", and she realized that "HE" came to "HER" to share "HIS" Grief, and "SHE" has to be "HIS" Strength... Friends, here I would add another dimension - Courage, which I could sense in Jodha...Rumi puts it as follows- "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." And that moment, Jodha's Judgement about Jalal Prevailed over ANYTHING which was present in HER.

So jodha goes to also Hammam, & sees, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Scene was totally thoughtless,

Jalal was, in Hammam, & realasing all his sorrow +Pain, Shouting. This was necessary, if not

realeases, comes depresson, So here Jodha sees, he is realeasing, so Her standing was Sielant Support,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So both consloed Own own thier way, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But imp was this;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Both are giving eachother sielant support.

Sometime, Only works Sielant support,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;After sometime Energy back, then Mind start to Work again. If we talks extreem anger things sometime spoiles.

Till now, I could figure out, 2 things...One - Despite being in a state of Losing Himself Jalal knew who CAN be his "Matrix" , and went to Jodha ... Two - The momentary RE-Treat of HER Husband was ENOUGH to BREAK her State of "Un-consciousness/Fear/Sefl-Denial" , and within a fraction of second she gauged that SHE has to BE HIS Strength, in such a time...She followed him to the Hamam, and ALLOWED Him to pour out what all was accumulated inside...At such times, it is better to leave the individual ALONE...And, she did the right thing thence...Thereafter, she was with HIM THROUGHOUT, and followed him as his Shadow wherever he WENT...The scene where Maham asks for permission' to meet Adham kneeling down - was so much Heart BREAKING for Jalal, to explain which, I do not possess the audacity...At such a time, HER HAND on HIS Shoulder was a Ray of Solace, consoling HIM and assuring HIM that SHE is there with HIM, and he need NOT feel ALONE... In short, these 2 people were an "ODE to Each Other"...

Agree When jodha, Put her hand Jalal shoulder, Sielance support, & Jalal gave permission

to Maham meet, Ak, Scene;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Was, Oneness, Hum sath sath hee.

But i liked,Akbar accepted his sielant support. In marriage time, Pandit, jee Rejoins Hands, Jodha, giving her shoulder, was very touchi movement. You are Not alone, i am with you, Everymovement, in your life, Rejoining marriage time, now time has come to prove it, with, practically.

Yesterday episode Proved, Jodha words were, Mother, Father, Company or Child company, With us or not, I am With You;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So things are goint to change, But stillness will be remain,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;That will , Complete, their Soul-Touch & they will became Soul-Mate.

The Defining MOMENT was the scene where Jalal mourns at the corpse of the Noble Atgah...He weeps bitterly...Here, Jalal got HIS answer... Though, in his conscious state he May NOT know IT, But HIS Soul Got the Answer From Jodha's Soul...The Sanskrit "Shlok" which Jodha recited is as follows --

Na Jayate mriyate va kadachin Nayam Bhuthva bhavitha na bhoyah: |
Ajo Nithyah sasvato yam purano na hanyate hanyamane sarere ||

In English, this means --

"Neither HE is born, nor does HE die at any time; HE has never been brought into being, nor shall come hereafter - unborn, eternal, permanent and primeval . When the body is slain, HE is not slain."

Here, "HE" refers to the SOUL...

How many of you noticed this.?. This Sanskrit Shlok is from the English Translation of The Holy Scripture Shrimada Bhagwada Gita, and is recited , in order to console someone's heart when that person is in the MOST SAD MOMENTS of his Life.. I could clearly see Jalal weeping bitterly at the moment.

I remember, Jalal came to Jodha in her Hojra, but she could not offer INSTANT support , but She did THE BEST BY by "Evoking a Divine Power through this Shloka" . It was an AWESOME and AMAZING piece delivered to us in that Episode, and the Creatives deserve a BOW for this.. I wish they had given a minor explanation for this..Anyways, I do not know, how many of us noticed this, but this PART of the Episode Made the Jodha - Akbar's Journey on a Different Path, that is ready to put itself on Spiritual Lines.!!.

The Physical Union has taken place and the Spritual Union of their Souls, is something I wish for, and wish we keep getting such ideas..!!!..

Only sppechless,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

Finally, today's Episode also, brought forth the SAME Conclusion that, Despite any hardships and any adversity in life, Jodha and Akbar will be each other's companion, and I am so happy that the Creatives are giving a Spiritual Dimension to their relation...

Hence, the title of my Post - Jalal questioned Jodha(His Shadow), but she answered from (by evoking the Divine) Soul(later).

PS --- Stay tuned to Jodha - Akbar..Lots of High-Intensity / Emotional scenes are to come in future, from the REAL Life Events of our Leads..I can't write the Details but few hints of FEW Tracks..

Ameen,

a. Jalal to come to know that MA was involved in his remaining childless (Hopefully, CV's show this..)

b. The Loss of their twins ..

c. And how JJ battle the Emotional Trauma together..

d. Both JJ going on wars together...

e. Thereafter, going to Sikri to Sheikh Salim Chisti(another essence of their Spiritual Companionship),

f. BB losing her child(stillborn),

g. Flight of Sharif-ud-din

h. War with Sharif-ud-din

i. Death of Sujamal

j. More interesting Tracks EXPECTED..Lets see...

I am very MUCH Liking this track...I am taking this ENTIRE sequence of Twins Birth and Loss and subsequent Trip as a SINGLE Track, and making this thread for the discussion henceforth . The Basic Essence of these tracks is one - and that is BOTH Jodha and Akbar are ONE now, and Jodha is present as the Emotional Support of her Husband...The Very thought gives me pleasure in writing this...

Amaging post, 👏 👏 👏 👏,

The Couple intensity going to increase, this Song will jusify;

Arre re arre ye kya hua maine na ye jaana

Arre re arre ban jaaye na kahin koi afsaana

Arre re arre kuchh ho gaya koi na pehchaana😉 😉

Arre re arre banta hai to ban jaaye afsaana

Naam kya hai kya kahein dil ke mausam ko🤗

Aag jaise lag gayi aaj shabnam ko😳 😳

Aise lagta hai kisine chhoo liya humko🤗

Arre re arre ye kya hua maine na ye jaana😳😉

🤗
Arre re arre ban jaaye na kahin koi afsaana..😆 😉🤪