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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocobrownies



aww..! Sindhu thanks a lot..😳🤗
I loved JO and MS , HB with JO and Ruku with JO , all three scenes scripted out very well as a peculiar shots..I loved PS , LT and RT all 3 shined out very well in this track..I was brooded for those days where they couldn't give proper screen space of leads..Though I m happy to watch them..Sindhu I m so happy , CB relieved out..It must be Nigar , MS or Jalal..? 🤔



agree and can't wait for tomorrow. Normally I skip Ruks scene, but past 3 days I am watching her as well.. PS, RT and LT were awesome..

For once loved Panicky Maham today as well..CB may not be mad at all. at least from the Pictures we saw she does not seem to..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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TODAY I WAS LITERALLY LAUGHING READING COMMENTS THAT JODHA DOESNT HAVE FAITH IN JALAL WHILE HE TRUSTS HER BLINDLY😆...SOME EVEN SAYING THAT JALAL LOVES HER MORE THAN SHE DOES😆...
FOR JODHA I CAN SAY ...SHE IS EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY 100% LOYAL AND FAITHFUL TO JALAL...HAS SHE EVER WAVERED IN HER LOYALTY TOWARDS HIM????...IN FACT EVERY TRACK HAS SHOWN HER BEING TOTALLY LOYAL TO HIM ...HAS SHE LOVED SOMEONE LESS?????...IN FACT I WILL GO TO THE EXTENT OF ASKING THAT DOES ANYONE THINK SHE CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN JALAL???...JALAL KNOWS THE ANSWER...HENCE THAT BLIND TRUST ON HIS FIERY BELOVED QUEEN...SHE WILL BE BY HIS SIDE THRU THICK AND THIN TILL HER LIFETIME...
BY THE WAY IF WE SEE SUJAMAL TRACK...IF SUJAMAL HAD NOT SAID THAT HE WAS HER BROTHER, HE WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM, NOT KNOWN THE TRUTH AND NOT GONE TO THE EXTENT OF FINDING HER OR BRINGING HER BACK...
I WONT QUESTION JALAL'S LOVE...BECAUSE I KNOW HE ONLY LOVES JODHA...BUT CAN JALAL AS A KING WITH A HAREM FULL OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (WHICH WILL GROW EVERY MONTH) BE LOYAL AND IN LOVE WITH HER TILL HIS LIFETIME???...AS A KING BELONGING TO THE 16TH CENTURY HE WILL BE MARRYING OTHER WOMEN...IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT HE WILL NOT GET ATTRACTED TO ANYONE OF THEM OR BE IN LOVE IN THE FUTURE?????...I FOR ONE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT...THAT IS WHAT RUKAIYAA WAS HINTING AT AND THAT IS WHY JODHA WAS IN DiLEMMA...HE IS A KING, HE HAS THE OPTIONS, HE CAN DO AS HE WISHES AND AS PER HIS FANCY ANYTIME (THIS IS AS PER 16TH CENTURY REALITY, POLYGAMOUS SETUP)...KEEPING THAT ASIDE...JALAL COMES AND TELLS HER ON HER FACE THAT HE DOESN'T LOVE HER...HE SAYS I LOVE SOMEONE ELSE...HE IS COOCHY COOING IN THE PALACE FOR ANYONE TO SEE INCLUDING JODHA...HE IS REPEATEDLY INSULTING HER AND TELLING HER THAT SHE IS NOT WORTHY OF HIS LOVE...HE IS NOT ASHAMED OF TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW FOUND LOVE IN FRONT OF HIS MOTHER, MINISTERS...HE IS GOING TO THE EXTENT OF CREATING RELIGIOUS UPROAR AND ORDERING KILLING OF HIS OWN PEOPLE IF THEY REVOLT...AND STILL ONE WANTS JODHA TO BELIEVE THAT JALLU IS ACTING😆...HIS MOTHER COULDNT UNDERSTAND, HIS BEST FRIEND COULDNT, HIS DOOD KI KARZ MOTHER COULDNT, SALIMA COULDNT AND EVERYONE WANTS JODHA TO UNDERSTAND...ISNT IT TAKING TOO FARRR😆
Edited by Pals2411 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12

Hey Dear..its an emotional episode...

coming to rukku she went to tana marofy jodha that she took away jalal from her.. or to console jodha...here also audha conscious..she is just like a camelion..changes colour ...she is also same.. her hamdardi vanishes in fraction of seconds wen she gets to no about jalal's immense love for jo..he did all this for her and his kids and sultant..to save jo from all danger..to keep her safe..then she il show her true colour...but onething jo il realise after this track no one can replace her place in jalal's life..he loves her madly and its unconditionally... not only jo but whole world il accept that no one can replace jo's place in jalal's life..this il enrage rukku more..and more than this HB and salima il be happy that jalal is jodha's jalal only...

jo HB was the best scene... problem yeh hai dono jodha jalal dono hi ek dusre ki dard bhi hai aur dawa bhi.. both are in pain..its just that jo is showing out her pain whr jalal is not... but in the end even jalal cudnt see his jo in so much pain ... bechara ek pal ke liye kamzhor pad gaya aur baat karne chala gaya jodha se..after all he is doing all this for her safety... i am just dying to see papita's face tmw wen he tells u think shehensha jalaluddin mohammad akbar tumari pyar main padega.. kya socha apni jodha begum ko aur uski mohbbat ko tukrake tumse pyar karenge.. tuj jaisi hazar aurate bhi aye to bhi humare dil main jaga nahi lesakta..humara dil sirf jodha begum ki hai..unki jagah koi nahi lesakta.. tight slap to everyone including papita maham and rukku...maham was so confident wen she was searching for cb..her plan is to kill jalal and jodha and take takt and kill cb also..since cb is not recovering she plotted this step i guess... agar is track se koi jyada pain main hai to wo hai jolal...finally papita ko tata bye bye kehne ka wakt agaya hai...



Kya post hai..! Gem 😃
Akdha's love is eternal , no one can place in their soul-stirred connections.After all everything seems to be fair in love and war..But here his strategy seems to be poor but he just want her to protect his beloved JO and babies...Gem I m expecting all dialogues written by u..They are imperfect in realizing with each other presence and importance through out their journey , but seems to be so perfect together..I want some character growth after each tragedy , it looks odd whenever they are overcoming each hurdle later back to square one..? 😒
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



@blue: impressed with ur love for Ruks..:):):)

I just want my Akdha back and I never even once complained about lep, hand hold..honestly I do not deserve this torture...

totally agree CVS could have definitely done a better Job with this track.




Yeah..! Sindhu..They can try out some other experimentation ..They just mocking out historical characters..😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



agree and can't wait for tomorrow. Normally I skip Ruks scene, but past 3 days I am watching her as well.. PS, RT and LT were awesome..

For once loved Panicky Maham today as well..CB may not be mad at all. at least from the Pictures we saw she does not seem to..



CB , we show her true colors infront of Jalal..I can't wait to see MA crocodile tears..😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pals2411

TODAY I WAS LITERALLY LAUGHING READING COMMENTS THAT JODHA DOESNT HAVE FAITH IN JALAL WHILE HE TRUSTS HER BLINDLY😆...SOME EVEN SAYING THAT JALAL LOVES HER MORE THAN SHE DOES😆...

FOR JODHA I CAN SAY ...SHE IS EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY 100% LOYAL AND FAITHFUL TO JALAL...HAS SHE EVER WAVERED IN HER LOYALTY TOWARDS HIM????...IN FACT EVERY TRACK HAS SHOWN HER BEING TOTALLY LOYAL TO HIM ...HAS SHE LOVED SOMEONE LESS?????...IN FACT I WILL GO TO THE EXTENT OF ASKING THAT DOES ANYONE THINK SHE CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN JALAL???...JALAL KNOWS THE ANSWER...HENCE THAT BLIND TRUST ON HIS FIERY BELOVED QUEEN...SHE WILL BE BY HIS SIDE THRU THICK AND THIN TILL HER LIFETIME...
BY THE WAY IF WE SEE SUJAMAL TRACK...IF SUJAMAL HAD NOT SAID THAT HE WAS HER BROTHER, HE WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM, NOT KNOWN THE TRUTH AND NOT GONE TO THE EXTENT OF FINDING HER OR BRINGING HER BACK...
I WONT QUESTION JALAL'S LOVE...BECAUSE I KNOW HE ONLY LOVES JODHA...BUT CAN JALAL AS A KING WITH A HAREM FULL OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (WHICH WILL GROW EVERY MONTH) BE LOYAL AND IN LOVE WITH HER TILL HIS LIFETIME???...AS A KING BELONGING TO THE 16TH CENTURY HE WILL BE MARRYING OTHER WOMEN...IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT HE WILL NOT GET ATTRACTED TO ANYONE OF THEM OR BE IN LOVE IN THE FUTURE?????...I FOR ONE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT...THAT IS WHAT RUKAIYAA WAS HINTING AT AND THAT IS WHY JODHA WAS IN DiLEMMA...HE IS A KING, HE HAS THE OPTIONS, HE CAN DO AS HE WISHES AND AS PER HIS FANCY ANYTIME (THIS IS AS PER 16TH CENTURY REALITY, POLYGAMOUS SETUP)...KEEPING THAT ASIDE...JALAL COMES AND TELLS HER ON HER FACE THAT HE DOESN'T LOVE HER...HE SAYS I LOVE SOMEONE ELSE...HE IS COOCHY COOING IN THE PALACE FOR ANYONE TO SEE INCLUDING JODHA...HE IS REPEATEDLY INSULTING HER AND TELLING HER THAT SHE IS NOT WORTHY OF HIS LOVE...HE IS NOT ASHAMED OF TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW FOUND LOVE IN FRONT OF HIS MOTHER, MINISTERS...HE IS GOING TO THE EXTENT OF GREATING RELIGIOUS UPROAR AND ORDERING KILLING OF HIS OWN PEOPLE IF THEY REVOLT...AND STILL ONE WANTS JODHA TO BELIEVE THAT JALLU IS ACTING😆...HIS MOTHER COULDNT UNDERSTAND, HIS BEST FRIEND COULDNT, HIS DOOD KI KARZ MOTHER COULDNT, SALIMA COULDNT AND EVERYONE WANTS JODHA TO UNDERSTAND...ISNT IT TAKING TOO FARRR😆




Pallu..! What a great write up..! 😆
U nailed it out girl...😳
Yes..! Whatever Ruku says , that was a true fact for a queens around harem..I hope not in the case of JO , eventhough a strong willed person will be in perplexed mode what he was actually trying out to do..? I don't want to raise any options from cv's to provide logical stuffs in their writing..I never find JO love on agitated mode..Jalal always in oscillating mode due to his prsence in bad atmosphere...😆 Lastly I had a strong faith on JJ's love..Its unconditional and soulful..❤️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Hey Chocos..
Made this post just now on Radhika's thread...
Re-posting here..

Thanks for update..
Nice review..


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Today, let me keep the LOGICS (of this ILLogical and UNrealisticTrack) aside and lets evaluate a few OTHER bits...

1.
Paridhi's and Lavina's acting was very good...Both enacted their respective scenes well...LT with Jodha, and PS with Hamida..
Clap for BOTH the actresses..RT was also good..


2.
One thing i laughed hard was after thinking that, Zee/CV's are DOING their BEST to keep the viewers glued, be it with ---
a. Back to back Promos, on a record basis
b. Tweets after Tweets
c. ' Meaningful ' Precaps
d. And, of course, that " Ishq yeh Woh Ehsaas " tune after a LOONG Time..


3.
I will still NOT comment whom to side with, because neither i can understand Jalal crying and NOR i can see all the Begums, his mother, and others weeping.. I still stand by, that this ENTIRE track was a DESPERATELY thought attempt to pull up Jalal's image(Strong/Tedha ?), but in a not so GOOD manner...



4.
MOST IMPORTANTLY...I do not understand, HOW CAN a Wife STILL Believe her husband , when --

a. He REPEATEDLY tells her AGAIN and AGAIN, in "PRIVATE" and also in "PUBLIC" that, he NO Longer LOVES her, NO Longer Feels for her, and NO Longer wants to SEE her.

b. BTW, I can quote MANY phrases of Vishwaas / Ishq / Belief / Vachans, etc. etc. here ..LOL.. But, just try to think once, IS it really Possible for a LADY to believe "it", in such circumstanceS.?.

c. If anyone will REALLY believe IT, then i applaud...

d. Kya re.?. Khud Jalal ko bhi lag gaya hai aaj, that he has "" REALLY GONE OVERBOARD in his 007 tactics"" , and needs to end this DRAMA asap, BUT agar iske baad bhi koi Jodha ko Prem / Love / Vishwaas / Belief, etc. ki duhai de , and ask her to Believe Jalal then, i can only ROFL...Jab Jalal has realized that this is NOW ""EXTREME"" , even after this, can we expect his Begums/Ammi to be in their Beliefs INTACT..?..

Realistically, It's impossible... When HIS Bachpan ka DOST has Lost every BELIEF and EVEN his MOTHER has LOST all Hopes, that mother who gave birth to him..
And, after all this, I do NOT expect Jodha to HOLD on to that ""BELIEF"" ...Is baar kuch Zyada ho gaya hai...It's better practiced than PROFESSED...which even Jalal could not do in Suja track...

Jalal did NOT believe his eyes, after seeing Jodha with Suja in the Jungle..But was FORCED to believe the WORST after, Maham Anga's 'corruption' of his MIND..
Similarly, Jodha was normal even after..
i. Seeing Jalal in that tub with Atifa..
ii. After seeing Atifa's picture being drawn by Jalal..
iii. Her hand-holding of Atifa, infront of bhari Mehfil, in Agra..etc..

But what can she do.?..When, she is TOLD [ and even the UN-Born Kids are Told..!!!..] something "corrosive" ""again and again"" ...??... Still keep the Belief.?. I don't know, perhaps i have not gone in such situations in LIFE till now. But, i can not expect anything BIG also..

To me , it seems that, Jalal wanted to make sure that, she shatters to a POINT after which she keeps " NUMB from the proceedings " to keep her away...But was this Correct to do so.?. I won't say anything on this..No point...

Aankhen dhokha kha sakti hain, but jab koi insaan , aapka humsafar, aapko baar baar BOLKAR Vishwaas karata hai, in PUBLIC and in PRIVATE, about the Worst scenario, then i can NOT really expect, any MORTAL BEING to HOLD on to ANY BELIEF...

BTW, Aren't pregnant women , MORE PRONE than normal ones, to emotional turmoil during pregnancies...?...
{ Any experts here, i am only asking...}

Isn't it UNfair to expect TOO MUCH from Jodha, just to PROVE one lead BETTER over OTHER..?.
I am not going to play any ping-pong game with anyone of J-J...



5.
Coming to Jodha's BELIEF in HER LOVE...Her LOVE is still ALIVE..She will still LOVE Jalal..Her testimony to HERSELF, her Kanha, and Man Singh was an example of her UNDYING Faith in the Love for her husband...

When the ENTIRE Harem of Shahenshah Jalal-ud-din Mohammad Akbar , had given ALL Hopes of Jalal returning BACK, when her Bachpan ka Dost who claims to know JALAL the BEST lost all hopes, when the EVER wise Salima Begum lost hopes, when HIS Own mother Lost hopes, THEN it was the SAME JODHA, who defeated all ODDS and hung up to the Belief that, HER Husband / HER SOUL will return, and happened the same WAY...

Souls NEVER Lie...Souls don't speak...If at all, there is something which LIES, it is the intellect, and Jalal EXPLOITED that to the FULL potential in present track to keep Jodha away, but i really HATE CV's for showing such a CONDITION...


I can NOT question Jodha's LOVE for JALAL here (Never questioned Jalal's either, if i questioned anything it was the ROUTE adopted by him...)...

Even Jalal has understood JODHA's world ENDS at HIM and STARTS at HIM... *PERIOD*


I must say, it was really heart wrenching , to justify the TURMOIL of anyone's feelings today...


PS -- Today's episode focussed on BARE truths of Human Relationships, and i chose to elaborate on JJ here, coz not much was shown today...And , i won't evaluate the other happenings, as i have done so, in my past 3 posts already..This comment is ONLY for Exploring Jodha and Jalal's SELF, especially Jodha, as she is UNAWARE of ALL things at present...And, then made an attempt to evaluate the happenings BARRING all logics of Kingship, because ANY King will NEVER adopt the route shown here...

PPS -- Man Singh is upto something BIG...I BET..



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Very well written Abhay!!

You have justified Jodha's stance perfectly!.

I still see posts saying Jodha doesn't have faith in him, Jodha's prem is a joke..BLAH BLAH.

Why do people expect a woman to have faith in a guy who tells you repeatedly right on your face to back-off? If she sticks around like a leech, wouldn't that be a blow to her self-respect?For that matter, she express her anger about him to anyone but asks Mansingh to watch out for him. Isn't that faith and loyalty enough?

Weren't they the same people who mocked Jodha for expecting the Shehenshah to read hr eyes? Didn't they say that: "How can the Shehenshah trust her after she herself mouthed the words that she loves Suja?". Now I ask the same Q to them: "When the Shehenshah himself has openly declared his love to Atifa, what can she believe?" ( I know, now I'm going to get the answer: they didnt even confess their love to each other that time, now they're so close. So WHAT??? )

And this is an OPEN QUESTION to such people, not an act of bashing them.


People can't expect everything to be compliant with the Shehenshah and whatever he does. I can't wait for the bad eggs to roll out, but I feel Jalal should have handled Jodha a little more sensitively. Coz if someone plays a bad joke on you and then pops out with a grin saying: "I'm joking!!" it would be so weird. But then, I still applaud him for the way he has chosen to sieve out the disloyal people in his court, given the fact that he didn't even trust Atgah or Mansingh.

I'm very very happy with the way Jodha and Jalal have reacted to the circumstances. I'm happy that she has resolved herself to remain strong for her babies. I'm happy that he is aware of his progress and damage. I'm happy that they are still loyal to each other. But I'm not happy with the way people jump at the opportunity to pass crass comments at Jodha or Jalal. (Calling Jalal Yuckbar is so not done)

Anyway, besides that I'm looking forward for tomorrow.

MA, Adham, Atifa, Ruq...all of them thrown out at once! What about Shariff??😲 Will he also get caught?


P.S: Cooled OFF. Started watching the show again and all previous epis that I missed.

P.P.S: Cooled off and the steam is out!
Edited by AntaresVega - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocobrownies



Kya post hai..! Gem 😃
Akdha's love is eternal , no one can place in their soul-stirred connections.After all everything seems to be fair in love and war..But here his strategy seems to be poor but he just want her to protect his beloved JO and babies...Gem I m expecting all dialogues written by u..They are imperfect in realizing with each other presence and importance through out their journey , but seems to be so perfect together..I want some character growth after each tragedy , it looks odd whenever they are overcoming each hurdle later back to square one..? 😒



no dear..thr is growth in thr characters... see moti adham case he realised jo doesnt give importance to materialistic things..she used his farman to save a bandhi's life..thr he started understanding her...rukku MC track he understood that rajvanshi's are very loyal bound by vachans.. jo suicide trak made him realise that he broke her completely..started changing for her unknowingly...

mohan track made jo realise he is not that bad..he saved her life risking his life...first step of trust towards him.. later on sukanya's marriage she started understanding him..both started tolerating each other understanfing each other..

like wise every track they started understanding each other than before..

sujamal track made jalal realised no matter jo can never betray his trust nor his love...she loves him unconditionally..

thought jo beleived him still she was insecure coz she is not his only wife..and jalal's behaviour made her to beleive that he doesnt love her..end of this track she il realise no one can replace her place in jalal's life.. aisa har track main dono har muskil paar karke apni mohabbat ko jita rahe hai... thats y thr story is called as epic love story..we still remember them after 450 yrs... remember this dialogue..kyunki ithihaas ko deni thi ek aisi prem kahani jo shamsheer ki dhar par chali aur payal ki jhankar ko bhi nah bhuli... defenitely real akbar muz love story was not easy...they both faced many problems together and thats y we still remember thr love story as epic...
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Episode was interesting, & Reaching Climax Mod,😆 😆


Not Liked, Ruk, She came console jodha or Troubleing her.

But she speaked truth, But i have not faith on Ruk, Her Plan about Jodha is going to sucessful.

She is worried for BEK Audha, Again.

Because, acc to her, Jalal will not marry with Atifa, but Plan is going to Flop, This is real probem of Ruk.


Is MS saved CB, any other Place ?

I think jodha not knows jalal plan ?



But jalal hinted, Too much is going Own, We are saying jalal you are doing Too Much.😆 😆

so Tomorrow is Lucky Day.

Jalal wants jodha not harmed on Nikah day, so she should live in Hozara.

Ruk +Maham +Atifa , Tight class Needed.

liked jodha tough situation concoled own, (very tough ) but i liked her Sielance energy.👏 👏

( After so many days we heard Music , Ishk, Hee Voo ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Badal dee 😆 😆)

Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: morsal_cute

😉*********** BREAKING NEWS ***********
Guys... #Atifa track is ending this week...n #JodhaAkbar taking 9 Months leap where #Jodha will give birth to Twin Babies...So stay tunned...KEEP WATCHING #JODHAAKBAR



So leap is on the floor.

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