I can't do this , but I have to ..!! - Page 2

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hey Chocos..
Made this post just now on Radhika's thread...
Re-posting here..

Thanks for update..
Nice review..

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Today, let me keep the LOGICS (of this ILLogical and UNrealisticTrack) aside and lets evaluate a few OTHER bits...

1.
Paridhi's and Lavina's acting was very good...Both enacted their respective scenes well...LT with Jodha, and PS with Hamida..
Clap for BOTH the actresses..RT was also good..


2.
One thing i laughed hard was after thinking that, Zee/CV's are DOING their BEST to keep the viewers glued, be it with ---
a. Back to back Promos, on a record basis
b. Tweets after Tweets
c. ' Meaningful ' Precaps
d. And, of course, that " Ishq yeh Woh Ehsaas " tune after a LOONG Time..


3.
I will still NOT comment whom to side with, because neither i can understand Jalal crying and NOR i can see all the Begums, his mother, and others weeping.. I still stand by, that this ENTIRE track was a DESPERATELY thought attempt to pull up Jalal's image(Strong/Tedha ?), but in a not so GOOD manner...



4.
MOST IMPORTANTLY...I do not understand, HOW CAN a Wife STILL Believe her husband , when --

a. He REPEATEDLY tells her AGAIN and AGAIN, in "PRIVATE" and also in "PUBLIC" that, he NO Longer LOVES her, NO Longer Feels for her, and NO Longer wants to SEE her.

b. BTW, I can quote MANY phrases of Vishwaas / Ishq / Belief / Vachans, etc. etc. here ..LOL.. But, just try to think once, IS it really Possible for a LADY to believe "it", in such circumstanceS.?.

c. If anyone will REALLY believe IT, then i applaud...

d. Kya re.?. Khud Jalal ko bhi lag gaya hai aaj, that he has "" REALLY GONE OVERBOARD in his 007 tactics"" , and needs to end this DRAMA asap, BUT agar iske baad bhi koi Jodha ko Prem / Love / Vishwaas / Belief, etc. ki duhai de , and ask her to Believe Jalal then, i can only ROFL...Jab Jalal has realized that this is NOW ""EXTREME"" , even after this, can we expect his Begums/Ammi to be in their Beliefs INTACT..?..

Realistically, It's impossible... When HIS Bachpan ka DOST has Lost every BELIEF and EVEN his MOTHER has LOST all Hopes, that mother who gave birth to him..
And, after all this, I do NOT expect Jodha to HOLD on to that ""BELIEF"" ...Is baar kuch Zyada ho gaya hai...It's better practiced than PROFESSED...which even Jalal could not do in Suja track...

Jalal did NOT believe his eyes, after seeing Jodha with Suja in the Jungle..But was FORCED to believe the WORST after, Maham Anga's 'corruption' of his MIND..
Similarly, Jodha was normal even after..
i. Seeing Jalal in that tub with Atifa..
ii. After seeing Atifa's picture being drawn by Jalal..
iii. Her hand-holding of Atifa, infront of bhari Mehfil, in Agra..etc..

But what can she do.?..When, she is TOLD [ and even the UN-Born Kids are Told..!!!..] something "corrosive" ""again and again"" ...??... Still keep the Belief.?. I don't know, perhaps i have not gone in such situations in LIFE till now. But, i can not expect anything BIG also..

To me , it seems that, Jalal wanted to make sure that, she shatters to a POINT after which she keeps " NUMB from the proceedings " to keep her away...But was this Correct to do so.?. I won't say anything on this..No point...

Aankhen dhokha kha sakti hain, but jab koi insaan , aapka humsafar, aapko baar baar BOLKAR Vishwaas karata hai, in PUBLIC and in PRIVATE, about the Worst scenario, then i can NOT really expect, any MORTAL BEING to HOLD on to ANY BELIEF...

BTW, Aren't pregnant women , MORE PRONE than normal ones, to emotional turmoil during pregnancies...?...
{ Any experts here, i am only asking...}

Isn't it UNfair to expect TOO MUCH from Jodha, just to PROVE one lead BETTER over OTHER..?.
I am not going to play any ping-pong game with anyone of J-J...



5.
Coming to Jodha's BELIEF in HER LOVE...Her LOVE is still ALIVE..She will still LOVE Jalal..Her testimony to HERSELF, her Kanha, and Man Singh was an example of her UNDYING Faith in the Love for her husband...

When the ENTIRE Harem of Shahenshah Jalal-ud-din Mohammad Akbar , had given ALL Hopes of Jalal returning BACK, when her Bachpan ka Dost who claims to know JALAL the BEST lost all hopes, when the EVER wise Salima Begum lost hopes, when HIS Own mother Lost hopes, THEN it was the SAME JODHA, who defeated all ODDS and hung up to the Belief that, HER Husband / HER SOUL will return, and happened the same WAY...

Souls NEVER Lie...Souls don't speak...If at all, there is something which LIES, it is the intellect, and Jalal EXPLOITED that to the FULL potential in present track to keep Jodha away, but i really HATE CV's for showing such a CONDITION...


I can NOT question Jodha's LOVE for JALAL here (Never questioned Jalal's either, if i questioned anything it was the ROUTE adopted by him...)...

Even Jalal has understood JODHA's world ENDS at HIM and STARTS at HIM... *PERIOD*


I must say, it was really heart wrenching , to justify the TURMOIL of anyone's feelings today...


PS -- Today's episode focussed on BARE truths of Human Relationships, and i chose to elaborate on JJ here, coz not much was shown today...And , i won't evaluate the other happenings, as i have done so, in my past 3 posts already..This comment is ONLY for Exploring Jodha and Jalal's SELF, especially Jodha, as she is UNAWARE of ALL things at present...And, then made an attempt to evaluate the happenings BARRING all logics of Kingship, because ANY King will NEVER adopt the route shown here...

PPS -- Man Singh is upto something BIG...I BET..

Originally posted by: preetgurti

Sindhu where r u these dats miss reading your love for jj both

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Archana ,

Well said.

Yes this was one track which raised so many questions about jajo's faith ,trust and their love.

And the cvs have managed to keep the audience glued.Finally we are at the end of the track now.

Though this was a very poorly scripted track with lots of loopholes,but I felt cvs wanted some drama in the love story itself.There was a lull period after the consummation and the regular love scenes between the couples were also taken as lolipop ones .

Just let us keep the logic and butchering of the characters aside,I feel the cvs used the separation and reconciliation card to just spice up a bit of romance.See today how much relieved we were with that isq hai vo ehsaas.If they had showed the regular routine love between them then that ishq hai wouldn't have that same magic for us.

These all games are played in all the serials post consummation many times when love story becomes routine,But here I thought cvs had to be careful as history is involved.

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

awesome post. was waiting for this actually...I am a fan of your writings. My favorite from your thread is how beautifully you described JO MS scene. Totally agree with you here..

Jo HB scene was heartbreaking to watch..Felt like hugging Jo there..Last part where Jalal realizes that he has just gone over board and his visit to Jo's Hojra. Loved this scene too.

Jalal, yes he needs to prove to his enemies that he will go to any extent to hurt his near and dear ones so that he can get to the root. Agree he is going through hell just like his near and dear ones, Jo and his Kids. Does this mean that Jalal only understands JO but not Vice versa. Jodha, would not have believed anyone but she had to start believing because it came from her own husband whom she trusts and loves the most. Loved the dignified, strong willed, graceful Jodha today..

Waiting for this track to be over. I hope it ends tomorrow itself...

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Rashmi..! 😃
Exactly well said..!! ..When history itself had many stories to create , what's the need to insert unwanted illogical way of tracks that too for leads..But they justifying supporting roles , I could never seen fickle minded writing when ti comes for negative roles expect Rukaiya..😆
I can't say how much I m fely happy after watching akdha bgm after a long time..😭 😳

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hey Chocos..
Made this post just now on Radhika's thread...
Re-posting here..

Thanks for update..
Nice review..

******************************************************************************

Today, let me keep the LOGICS (of this ILLogical and UNrealisticTrack) aside and lets evaluate a few OTHER bits...

1.
Paridhi's and Lavina's acting was very good...Both enacted their respective scenes well...LT with Jodha, and PS with Hamida..
Clap for BOTH the actresses..RT was also good..


2.
One thing i laughed hard was after thinking that, Zee/CV's are DOING their BEST to keep the viewers glued, be it with ---
a. Back to back Promos, on a record basis
b. Tweets after Tweets
c. ' Meaningful ' Precaps
d. And, of course, that " Ishq yeh Woh Ehsaas " tune after a LOONG Time..


3.
I will still NOT comment whom to side with, because neither i can understand Jalal crying and NOR i can see all the Begums, his mother, and others weeping.. I still stand by, that this ENTIRE track was a DESPERATELY thought attempt to pull up Jalal's image(Strong/Tedha ?), but in a not so GOOD manner...



4.
MOST IMPORTANTLY...I do not understand, HOW CAN a Wife STILL Believe her husband , when --

a. He REPEATEDLY tells her AGAIN and AGAIN, in "PRIVATE" and also in "PUBLIC" that, he NO Longer LOVES her, NO Longer Feels for her, and NO Longer wants to SEE her.

b. BTW, I can quote MANY phrases of Vishwaas / Ishq / Belief / Vachans, etc. etc. here ..LOL.. But, just try to think once, IS it really Possible for a LADY to believe "it", in such circumstanceS.?.

c. If anyone will REALLY believe IT, then i applaud...

d. Kya re.?. Khud Jalal ko bhi lag gaya hai aaj, that he has "" REALLY GONE OVERBOARD in his 007 tactics"" , and needs to end this DRAMA asap, BUT agar iske baad bhi koi Jodha ko Prem / Love / Vishwaas / Belief, etc. ki duhai de , and ask her to Believe Jalal then, i can only ROFL...Jab Jalal has realized that this is NOW ""EXTREME"" , even after this, can we expect his Begums/Ammi to be in their Beliefs INTACT..?..

Realistically, It's impossible... When HIS Bachpan ka DOST has Lost every BELIEF and EVEN his MOTHER has LOST all Hopes, that mother who gave birth to him..
And, after all this, I do NOT expect Jodha to HOLD on to that ""BELIEF"" ...Is baar kuch Zyada ho gaya hai...It's better practiced than PROFESSED...which even Jalal could not do in Suja track...

Jalal did NOT believe his eyes, after seeing Jodha with Suja in the Jungle..But was FORCED to believe the WORST after, Maham Anga's 'corruption' of his MIND..
Similarly, Jodha was normal even after..
i. Seeing Jalal in that tub with Atifa..
ii. After seeing Atifa's picture being drawn by Jalal..
iii. Her hand-holding of Atifa, infront of bhari Mehfil, in Agra..etc..

But what can she do.?..When, she is TOLD [ and even the UN-Born Kids are Told..!!!..] something "corrosive" ""again and again"" ...??... Still keep the Belief.?. I don't know, perhaps i have not gone in such situations in LIFE till now. But, i can not expect anything BIG also..

To me , it seems that, Jalal wanted to make sure that, she shatters to a POINT after which she keeps " NUMB from the proceedings " to keep her away...But was this Correct to do so.?. I won't say anything on this..No point...

Aankhen dhokha kha sakti hain, but jab koi insaan , aapka humsafar, aapko baar baar BOLKAR Vishwaas karata hai, in PUBLIC and in PRIVATE, about the Worst scenario, then i can NOT really expect, any MORTAL BEING to HOLD on to ANY BELIEF...

BTW, Aren't pregnant women , MORE PRONE than normal ones, to emotional turmoil during pregnancies...?...
{ Any experts here, i am only asking...}

Isn't it UNfair to expect TOO MUCH from Jodha, just to PROVE one lead BETTER over OTHER..?.
I am not going to play any ping-pong game with anyone of J-J...



5.
Coming to Jodha's BELIEF in HER LOVE...Her LOVE is still ALIVE..She will still LOVE Jalal..Her testimony to HERSELF, her Kanha, and Man Singh was an example of her UNDYING Faith in the Love for her husband...

When the ENTIRE Harem of Shahenshah Jalal-ud-din Mohammad Akbar , had given ALL Hopes of Jalal returning BACK, when her Bachpan ka Dost who claims to know JALAL the BEST lost all hopes, when the EVER wise Salima Begum lost hopes, when HIS Own mother Lost hopes, THEN it was the SAME JODHA, who defeated all ODDS and hung up to the Belief that, HER Husband / HER SOUL will return, and happened the same WAY...

Souls NEVER Lie...Souls don't speak...If at all, there is something which LIES, it is the intellect, and Jalal EXPLOITED that to the FULL potential in present track to keep Jodha away, but i really HATE CV's for showing such a CONDITION...


I can NOT question Jodha's LOVE for JALAL here (Never questioned Jalal's either, if i questioned anything it was the ROUTE adopted by him...)...

Even Jalal has understood JODHA's world ENDS at HIM and STARTS at HIM... *PERIOD*


I must say, it was really heart wrenching , to justify the TURMOIL of anyone's feelings today...


PS -- Today's episode focussed on BARE truths of Human Relationships, and i chose to elaborate on JJ here, coz not much was shown today...And , i won't evaluate the other happenings, as i have done so, in my past 3 posts already..This comment is ONLY for Exploring Jodha and Jalal's SELF, especially Jodha, as she is UNAWARE of ALL things at present...And, then made an attempt to evaluate the happenings BARRING all logics of Kingship, because ANY King will NEVER adopt the route shown here...

PPS -- Man Singh is upto something BIG...I BET..