At last ... Jalal shows deep concern for Jodha! - Page 7

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Awesome analysis..! Mansi
Episode looks fine without atifa..Either,cv's pulled up viewers in getting such horrible dialogues from Jalal..
JJ : It was a heated confrontation which was blazing specially from Jalal side..I agree his angry was justified towards JO , when she goes for kyber issue , whatever she should have been discussed with him before writing a letter to Rajput king..I don't know who was the actual culprit behind this letter..Coming to confrontation , She was expected to questioning him about affair with married women...rather he was burst with extreme harsh words for JO..I felt both are them had flaws at their own stand..I can agree with Jalal dialogues , which looks too OTT and unbearable to pacify it even though if had to do it...HIs self confession makes sense , as a king he can go for many wifes , e can marry thousands of women , but give me solid reason to give such toxic filled pressure..Does it makes any sense for him to questioning her love every time , how it looks when he spilled poisoned words , towards her ego , ..Her where ego part comes in b/w when both had a equal dimensions together...Is that a dialogue testing my love , advantage of my love , here where comes the ego..? What's necessity in testing or taking advantage from U love Jalal , indeed what she will get back it from u.? Neither she always been a root cause in building u as a person , that's a big deal isn't it..? When a person loves from heart , will never expect back anything from ur loved ones..And whatever she gave him in the form of love towards him it looks more precious than anything else in the world..She never showed her stubborn nature for good reasons only when situations goes out of control and as a king at sometime when he was failed to sort or clear out situations , there she needs to pull him up or stopping him up doing further sin or damage...Why this was tagged under ego..? Is his own ego allowing him to overshadow poor analysis of him to get person's real intentions like his BF(BEK)..Still now he couldn't get her actual ploy in which he was trying out to figure her cheap strategies in destroying his own heir ...If that named as ego what should be named for Rukaiya when he stamped him underfoot in making him as a puppet..How that looks horrible..? I don't want to compare these two status or never been compared, but he often stated her egoistic behaviour which makes me to do so..

One should turn back his own mistakes, he was the same person who humiliated her so much and tortured her like a hell ..In what way he was terming such words..I felt she showed him a right pathway in recognizing himself more than a person for what he was today..What else he needed from her..? A women always be a backbone of men's success , for Kyber issue , she should have deal with him in private other than that I couldn't get any flaws on her..More than I felt JO love looks spiritual , divine and so pure ,

There was a thin line b/w concern and ego..These two takes place only person going on unconditional trust and love..Here no need to question their love status when its going on soul connection...Rather in initial episodes we got many golden moments which was left unspoken and divine soul filled love..Now here where comes the ego and awkward reason in drifting another women..? There is no need to question or love testing each time , that shows how much U are weak in trust and relationship ...Both of them had their own flaws yesterday his dialogues looks unjustified , it looks more ferocious and furious all these days it seems , it was running inside Jalal's thoughts which was bloomed like a volcano yesterday ..Otherwise his dialogues won't go beyond incurable...I must fire dialogue writers specially for yesterday..

If Jalal acing up his own way of dealing issues then it doesn't mean to hurt ur beloved ones in tackling solutions..I guess this was one of the worst way of dealing by Jalal in reaching real culprits ..Yes..! He was trying to figure out his own people masking them out infront of everyone..That's reall good ,but this plan seems to be more unconvincing even though its his plan , after this whether he can cure it ? In case of JO who undergoing mental stress , if u want to deal with a people there are so many ways to implement , after all I want cv's to picturize solid reasons what makes him to do such terrible play...? Hopefully one episode filled with many FB scenes..I

Rest part : I loved JJ eye-lock ...later his concerned eyes for JO filled with guilt and pain...Best part , her reactions on atifa voice..I loved JO ignoring him giving fulfilled answers.. I always loved them watching as cute hate-love equation b/w them...Yesterday PS nailed out in her expressions which looks more matured and sensible status of getting actual facts as queen..She was perfect in each angle..Such a subtle way of controlled emotions which was most needed for a graceful queen to portray such scenes flawlessly..!

Originally posted by: Gem12

Mansi Though i didnot see yesterdays episode but after reading other posts people may think that jodha aka pari didnit do justice to her job...not all are like rukku.screeching shouting yellling and breaking things..jodha displays her pain in an exteme way...

even in bens case wen jalal utter such words she didnt do anything nor she cried..she just took it..wen the time came she just fulfilled her responisibilties and punished jalal by leaving this world..no prayers no medicines were able to bring her back..its jalal and his pleas and love made her to come back...

here also dont no if jalal is acting or still fallen for this papita but he was too harsh on jodha yesterday.. so even after listening to such words from jalal she didnt tell anything..again she il lose all hopes and wen she wants to leave the world and jalal and wen she il be on death bed only then this jerk will realise wat blunder he made.. its only jalal can bring her back..lets see how cv's il redeem his character...

Many il not show thr hurt to others..they il act brave but inside they il die..they il remember everything for every sec and cries inside...believe me jalal is a kind of person who just shouts with out thinking and vent out his anger and pain..later repents for his actions..but jodha is opposite here..she il take everything and dies every sec inside but il not show it ohters...and punishes them badly by leaving them forver ...jodha has the guts to punish everyone..thats y i like jodha..but this time jalal went too far in hurting jodha..at the end its he who il be going through the pain wen she il be in death bed and leaving this world and jalal for ever only then this jerk il realise...

but i can feel the pain that jodha is going thru..she is dying every sec inside..no matter chahe kuch bi kare is baar jodha ko vapas lana jalal ko bohot mushkil

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi guys...seems forum has calmed down after venting out our frustrations for last few days...good discussions going on in many threads...while looking at precap for Monday, a sudden thought came to mind... And I would love to share it with u all...

I don't think she is trying to commit suicide... she is not so weak, that she ll do such thing how much devastated she is... Any other time Jalal's adultery may have caused her attempt to commit suicide, but not when she is carrying his baby...even if she sees him with Atifa in compromising position, and if she doesn't want to see his face or she wants to teach him lesson, she ll leave him, like she did in Sujamal track... but when she is pregnant, she won't even think of suicide, even if every one deserts her... Coz her kids ll always be her strength against the world... And she ll fight with anybody , even with Jalal to keep them safe...

Now someone may feel, that she is going through so many tortures , so how can she stay strong... But the fact is the same pregnancy gives a would be mother all that strength , if she needs to take the entire world head on... and in that fight of hers, she doesn't need anybody to help her , nor does she cares for anybody else's welfare , if her child is at stake... And here same thing is happening... Jalal's OTT behavior is causing her mental stress, but at same time it ll make her more protective towards her child coz right now in her view , he doesn't care even for the kids, as he is taking it granted that she won't leave him in such condition (pregnancy), nor ll she commit suicide as she has promised HB, and so he thinks he ll get the heir he always wanted all safe and sound... (I m saying this may be her point of view after his behavior yest)...and so for now her only concern is her kids, not Jalal...now she won't care a damn for him or his actions...

And in very next scene she proved it ... After crying silently when he uttered those harsh words, that same silence settled in her where he is concerned... While doing her prayers, after feeling his presence, she turned her eyes away from him not giving him ant hint of her feelings... for next few moments he kept staring at her, waiting if she again looks at him, but she didn't... even later , she was hurt by his assumption that she may not be ready to go with him... but still she didn't say a word abt it... she just told him abt the arrangements she has done, like she is now concerned abt only her duties... not a single thing more, and so she leaves without an extra word... And it looks like , he is expecting something more from her, but is upset , that for her that thing is over... So he calls her, she stops but doesn't turn, coz now she is not ready to show him any of her feelings, her emotions, her concerns... (not that he needs to hear it from her... I m sure he understands her pain even without looking at her)...he waits to see if she turns and goes to him, but again all he gets is her cold shoulder...his expressions r changed and he takes a step towards her as if to console her, but just as she feels him moving towards her, her face changes to steely determination... her eyes show that hurt but her face shows her decision... now onwards she will maintain the distance btw them, he has created... If he wants to talk her or he needs her for anything, it will be him who will have to go to her, it will be him who will have to ask for her co-operation , coz she ll be with him only for completing her duties, nothing more...

The strength I said above, was shown in her in this scene... and so I feel she won't commit suicide...abt the precap, I think after hearing abt KZ, she feels concerned for him, and so she goes to see him.. (that's why that blanket and all)...but when she goes there she finds the door open, and so she peeps inside thinking if he has been killed...and then she is abt to fall in the well, that KZ saves her... So there is no kidnapping... remains abt her devastated state, is coz she felt worried for a sec when she saw that well open, that Jalal killed KZ and committed one more sin in Ramzaan...and so when she sees KZ is well alive, and rather he saved her, so all her pent up frustration came up and she shouted at him asking why he saved her, when her own hubby doesn't care abt her...

For me yest episode and precap made this sence... am I right?

Wait for next post... Jalal and the future track...ll post after some time, or by evening...

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Awesome analysis..! Mansi
Episode looks fine without atifa..Either,cv's pulled up viewers in getting such horrible dialogues from Jalal..
JJ : It was a heated confrontation which was blazing specially from Jalal side..I agree his angry was justified towards JO , when she goes for kyber issue , whatever she should have been discussed with him before writing a letter to Rajput king..I don't know who was the actual culprit behind this letter..Coming to confrontation , She was expected to questioning him about affair with married women...rather he was burst with extreme harsh words for JO..I felt both are them had flaws at their own stand..I can agree with Jalal dialogues , which looks too OTT and unbearable to pacify it even though if had to do it...HIs self confession makes sense , as a king he can go for many wifes , e can marry thousands of women , but give me solid reason to give such toxic filled pressure..Does it makes any sense for him to questioning her love every time , how it looks when he spilled poisoned words , towards her ego , ..Her where ego part comes in b/w when both had a equal dimensions together...Is that a dialogue testing my love , advantage of my love , here where comes the ego..? What's necessity in testing or taking advantage from U love Jalal , indeed what she will get back it from u.? Neither she always been a root cause in building u as a person , that's a big deal isn't it..? When a person loves from heart , will never expect back anything from ur loved ones..And whatever she gave him in the form of love towards him it looks more precious than anything else in the world..She never showed her stubborn nature for good reasons only when situations goes out of control and as a king at sometime when he was failed to sort or clear out situations , there she needs to pull him up or stopping him up doing further sin or damage...Why this was tagged under ego..? Is his own ego allowing him to overshadow poor analysis of him to get person's real intentions like his BF(BEK)..Still now he couldn't get her actual ploy in which he was trying out to figure her cheap strategies in destroying his own heir ...If that named as ego what should be named for Rukaiya when he stamped him underfoot in making him as a puppet..How that looks horrible..? I don't want to compare these two status or never been compared, but he often stated her egoistic behaviour which makes me to do so..

One should turn back his own mistakes, he was the same person who humiliated her so much and tortured her like a hell ..In what way he was terming such words..I felt she showed him a right pathway in recognizing himself more than a person for what he was today..What else he needed from her..? A women always be a backbone of men's success , for Kyber issue , she should have deal with him in private other than that I couldn't get any flaws on her..More than I felt JO love looks spiritual , divine and so pure ,

There was a thin line b/w concern and ego..These two takes place only person going on unconditional trust and love..Here no need to question their love status when its going on soul connection...Rather in initial episodes we got many golden moments which was left unspoken and divine soul filled love..Now here where comes the ego and awkward reason in drifting another women..? There is no need to question or love testing each time , that shows how much U are weak in trust and relationship ...Both of them had their own flaws yesterday his dialogues looks unjustified , it looks more ferocious and furious all these days it seems , it was running inside Jalal's thoughts which was bloomed like a volcano yesterday ..Otherwise his dialogues won't go beyond incurable...I must fire dialogue writers specially for yesterday..

If Jalal acing up his own way of dealing issues then it doesn't mean to hurt ur beloved ones in tackling solutions..I guess this was one of the worst way of dealing by Jalal in reaching real culprits ..Yes..! He was trying to figure out his own people masking them out infront of everyone..That's reall good ,but this plan seems to be more unconvincing even though its his plan , after this whether he can cure it ? In case of JO who undergoing mental stress , if u want to deal with a people there are so many ways to implement , after all I want cv's to picturize solid reasons what makes him to do such terrible play...? Hopefully one episode filled with many FB scenes..I

Rest part : I loved JJ eye-lock ...later his concerned eyes for JO filled with guilt and pain...Best part , her reactions on atifa voice..I loved JO ignoring him giving fulfilled answers.. I always loved them watching as cute hate-love equation b/w them...Yesterday PS nailed out in her expressions which looks more matured and sensible status of getting actual facts as queen..She was perfect in each angle..Such a subtle way of controlled emotions which was most needed for a graceful queen to portray such scenes flawlessly..!

Originally posted by: surochitadutta

Hi Mansi, what a fabulous and perfect write up... Congratulations to you and all those people who were so much positive and confident about Jalal.. Thanks for not not letting me lose hope on Jalal as its your post which kept that faith in Jalal alive...

Coming to the episode at first I did not want to watch it but then I went against my own thoughts and gathered all my courage and reluctantly switched on the tv at 8 pm to see only the antiques of Jalal but what I saw yesterday made my playful mood to come back... In the confrontation scene between JaJo it became clear that he was putting up an act the way he avoided answering her question So directly asked by her... But when he didn't have any other option but to reply then he looked away from her then gathered all his strength so that he could say those hurtful words to her which he very well know will shatter her... Then very reluctantly he answered in an undertone "yes " . Mansi did you notice at first he accepted Atifa affair in a low voice, it was only later he raised his voice as if he wanted to let everyone to know see now I have said it on Jodhas face that I have moved on from her ... See MA over hearing accomplished his mission... The pain and guilt of hurting her and causing her pain was quiet evident... My heart went out for both of them.. When Jodha closed her eyes in pain it gave me a pinch in my heart poor girl she has to go through such hell in this vulnerable condition. on the other hand did you notice that the camera while revolving paused for a fraction of second on Jalals face... I think it was purposely done so that we could see Jalals expressions... Then after looking at each other without any word he very reluctantly broke away.. .. Uff the whole scene was so beautifully executed by the director and the actors as well.. Only one thing which I didn't like we're the dialogues... How can they give such harsh dialogues for a pregnant lady.. Then I thought may be it is coming from man whose ego was hurt as well as his helplessness of not being able to share it with her...

The second scene which concerned both of them was so pious calm and serene... After Salima and HB made Jodha know of the importance and meaning of That auspicious night she offered a silent prayer which had had her Sahensha in it... And his peeping through the door while passing by And Jodhas sensing his presence was so beautiful it again shoWed the spiritual connect between them... . The eye lock that followed was so beautiful there were so many unspoken words in them Her eyes had questions, pain , hurt, anguish and his eyes had love , helplessness pain and guilt...he wanted to keep looking at her forever... But was interrupted by Salima may be she didn't want anybody to see through Jalal as she thought it will surely harm his plan.. If we go by Dikshas and your theory of Salima being a party to all his plans.. he had to lie that he came to see everybody but his constantlying looking at his Jodha said it all that he just wanted to keep looking at her till the end of time as he cannot go to her and find peace in her arms...

Coming to the last scene between them in his room where he was talking about some daan vagera.. That pensive mood of his and the melancholy air in his room said about his inner hurt guilt and turmoil.. The silent and calm surroundings around him was exactly contrary to his inner self which was hiding a storm inside it... Then came his lady love who coldly informed him about the arrangements .. Even though her voice sounded cold but it had pain hidden inside it... And just when she was about to leave he called her name "Jodha Begam" with all his love and pain which moved her and her aching heart... May be he wanted to comfort her a little by saying something he knows that even though she has put up a brave face but she is shattered from inside or may be he simply wanted to apologize for his rude behavior... She halted for a while but when she sensed him coming near her with reluctance she went away without looking at him and he stood there motionlessly with his eyes lingering on her till she is no more visible... Uff what a scene...

Yesterday was an episode where except for the confrontaton part no words were exchanged between the leads as there was no need for words their eyes took all the responsibility of taking there was no need for words only eyes were enough... It was such a beautifully directed and acted episode

Yesterdays episode reminded me of two songs one is " You say it best when you say nothing at all " by Boyzone and " Woh Humsafar tha " from the show Humsafar.

Finally Chand Begam made an appearance Oh My God the way she retooled Maham was a sight to behold ... Dunno why but I think CB is putting up an act of madness. Yesterday I felt she was purposely befooling Maham and misleading her.. I also felt the Atifa track and CB track are interlinked and will come to an end together during Eid... Do you think it's possible????

Even though I am not liking this track because of iltreatment of a pregnant Jodha and I know at the end however teda Jalal May be he will end up crying buckets like Anurag Basu ... But still I am looking forward for the track to unfold...

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Somehow all the open strings are perhaps going to be tied on this MAHA EPISODE on Saturday( if it is going to air😕 ). This Maha episode may show the maha khulasa on the holy event of EID Jashn or on so-called Jalal and Atifa's going-to-happen marriage 🥱

I just fervently hope that this Jalal is the Mastermind behind this.If not, I swear I will just literally send all the CVs heads to that Kali Maa's mandir, where Shaguni Bai would be dancing happily...😡

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Mansi, About MS, point, what is your opnion? or Maham point, is, she sent Toy Lady

Originally posted by: NATURESHIVANI

Awesome analyisis dear day by day my doubt is becoming more clearer the episode of jalal and aitfa showing two sides in one episode where we see diff jalal with atifa n diff jalal with jodha n others his tongue speaking something but his eyes reflecting something else

Originally posted by: sun29

did he say already he was marrying her yesterday or promo and scene was different...

but why would jodha go all the way to jungle and find that well to jump when she knows the lake the last time she decided to jump😆

and i do not think anymore ja jo confrontation is left..was not jodha in the same dress as precap..and cheapuddin still ogling at her...i think kucch andar gadbad hotha hai...and he behoshes her and whisks her in the blanket only to be saved by khyber or something

also till yesterday we did not see the concern of jala directly because jodha was not consciously aware of the truth..yesterday after hearing from her she now knows...hence his direct worries...

also cvs ka rule hai they make jalal the rudest before the track end so that he grovels the max 😆😆..hence i said only a jodha can handle this jalal...papita will run off all the way to kabul if she sees the real jalal 😆

and a love whose premise is ur first love is no love at all..even without a TE ka track...jalal straying ..it was only temporary ..coz when it rains hard ..we sometime do not want to drive through it but see a shelter and take it for sometime..and after the rain stops we always go back home...papita is that mirage which offers him temporary solace from jodha ka antics...she is not his home...it is jodha ...

it is still about jodha for him and will always be...jahan bhi jayega usse sukoon ghar wapas aakar hi milega...

iss jodha ko bhulane he would need another jodha only and ironically she will end up reminding him more of his jodha...papita cannot hold a candle to her ...isliye as divi says...450 years ke baad bhi it is jodha and akbar narrating their love story and not pappita