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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Jodha had not reacted overtly to Jalal's words during Ben track when he had said don't want to look at your face, would not turn to look at you even if you are dying. She had just lost her will to live. No prayers could bring her back but only Jalal's soul talk to say he loved her.

I think here again Jodha did not show any reaction to his words blaming her and saying she is 'not layak of his love' she was shattered and withdrawn.

I think Jalal by now knows Jodha and her NON-reaction to his words and her eyes are telling him he went way overboard. That is why he is going to regret big time.

I think it might be that after pretending entire day in front of everybody, Jalal's wounding words hit Jodha at night and she might have felt desolate and lonely. He has been HARDLY ANY KIND OF HUSBAND TO HER in her pregnancy. He did not even care about his babies when he shouted at her let them know what he thinks of her.

Maybe Jodha is so hurt she is not thinking straight and the precap.

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Maddi, When he was saying, You are not LAYAK of My Love, Not tolrable scene,if he is faking Agree,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Why So Harsh words he is Using.?When Jodha said,
Please App Shant rahie, Not spoke loudely, My kids will think, how their father talking to her mother, , but he not listened;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Child should know:;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;What should know,
Your father uses these type of languages;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;not liked, his words,

Faking is different thing, Insulting is different thing.

Jodha Pain Clearly showed, But How she Consoled Own & total Withdarw, Suppose, sometime cause of Deep pain we behave Like a Feeded Machine.I am pregnant, if i broken this time, My child will be effected;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;She Nailed that scene as a Wife, +Going to be Mother. But Sad for Jodha.

This message we are going to 21 cen, 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Jodha had not reacted overtly to Jalal's words during Ben track when he had said don't want to look at your face, would not turn to look at you even if you are dying. She had just lost her will to live. No prayers could bring her back but only Jalal's soul talk to say he loved her.

I think here again Jodha did not show any reaction to his words blaming her and saying she is 'not layak of his love' she was shattered and withdrawn.

I think Jalal by now knows Jodha and her NON-reaction to his words and her eyes are telling him he went way overboard. That is why he is going to regret big time.

I think it might be that after pretending entire day in front of everybody, Jalal's wounding words hit Jodha at night and she might have felt desolate and lonely. He has been HARDLY ANY KIND OF HUSBAND TO HER in her pregnancy. He did not even care about his babies when he shouted at her let them know what he thinks of her.

Maybe Jodha is so hurt she is not thinking straight and the precap.

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Bang on Maddy such a beautiful write up.. Even I agree whatever may be his reason for acting he shouldn't have gone overboard with his acting infront of Jodha... God knows How all his harsh words or his blaming be justified by the makers... This is the worst possible way to bring back Tera Jalal... Whatever may be done his harsh words and careless attitude can never be justified . Even though I liked how Jalals expressions had pain inside it but still felt like slapping him...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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OMG U all think so much, whatever u r seeing is just acting by Rajat.😉
U got so much deep into it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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[B]<font size="2">Mansi busy today - I read your reply to my thread "How can Jalal be redeemed and Jodha happy? - thanks and big hug for writing. You have kept everybody feeling positive in this horrible track by always saying there is something hidden here.

I will reply to your post there asap. Thanks again.

About yesterday's episode - I agree with Jalal about his points that Jodha should have talked with him before sending the letter, he has concerns about Khyber and how he felt insulted at having to withdraw the death order of Khyber. Everything justified.

However, what I am absolutely furious with Jalal about and disgusted at his behavior is - he tried to pass on HIS OWN GUILT onto Jodha.

Ok he is pretending having fallen for Atifa, maybe he is doing this for himself, Jodha and their babies. However, he could have just stopped at saying yes I now love Atifa.

WHY did he transfer his own guilt at his atrocious behavior to Jodha? Why did he have to say that SHE drove him to Atifa with HER behavior.

Jalal actually questioned what Jodha has done for him?! 😡😡😡
Really Jalal! -
Your lying cheating, bandi murdered to hide her dirty secret best friend cum BEK is alive today due to Jodha. She was ready and about to drink poison and it is Jodha who stopped her.

Your haram women are alive and have not lost their dignities to AM's men is due to Jodha's encouraging them to not give up and fight.

YOU are alive because Jodha drank poison meant to take your life!

Jodha was put at risk at the hands of Khyber - because YOUR palace security is so poor that he could carry her off while your soldiers could do nothing.

Jalal said to Jodha that SHE is the reason why he was driven to Atifa! Really what has Jodha done to drive him to Atifa? When he dropped into bathtub with her thinking Jodha - he was telling Jodha that he loves her. Now after he is showing everybody he has got the hots for Atifa he wants Jodha to feel guilty about that?

Jalal actually said to Jodha that she is not deserving of his love.

No matter WHAT HIS REASONS if he is pretending for someone's benefit - his words were horrible, cruel and absolutely self serving. Jalal was being a man who wanted to lessen HIS guilt at whatever his reason for whatever rasleela he is doing with Atifa by MAKING JODHA FEEL GUILTY.

Jalal could have fought with her about the letter, about Khyber and his feelings hurt and JUST answered yes to falling for Atifa. He could have said I love Atifa and stopped at that. WHY he had to wound Jodha so much with his words. This is disgusting and self serving.

Has Jalal forgotten that Jodha had taken any number of insults and plotting by everybody. What had deeply wounded Jodha's heart was HIS saying to her that he does not want to look at her face, that even if she lay dying he would not turn to give her a second look. That had wounded Jodha cos ONLY JALAL MATTERS to her.

He actually shouted at her saying his babies should know what kind of wife she is? 😡

Here AGAIN Jalal went overboard with harsh words wounding her and shattering Jodha's heart. IF he is pretending why did he not stop at I now love Atifa?

Jodha had NOT reacted to his shattering wounding words then and she did not react to his words yesterday. She had tears rolling down but she went kinda numb. Jodha did not show her reaction at how much he wounded her except by her eyes which took a shattered lost all will look.

Jodha did not let Jalal know how much he has wounded her spirit.

<font color="#0000FF">Here I want to say Paridhi was MAGNIFICENT yesterday, the wounded shattered look in her eyes is all she gave him. Screeching shouting and throwing tantrums and loud acting is considered great acting here!
Jodha Paridhi hatred is carried to such an extent that nothing good is ever seen in Jodha nor Paridhi's acting. I LOVED her and kudos to PS for a fabulous job.


The lollypop scene of Jalal staring at Jodha in prayers, calling her name when she told about the arrangements were to show us he is MAYBE starting to feel a little guilty at his harsh words.

I LOVED when Jodha averted her eyes from him in prayer room, when she did not look at him when she told him about the arrangements and when she walked off when he called her name.

THIS HORRIBLE Jalal who went way overboard in his words throwing Jodha's deep love for him that she can anyday die for him in her face and BLAMED her for his love for Atifa deserves to be raked over coals.

I don't know what the precap is - maybe Jodha pretended whole day in front of everybody by hiding her pain. It would have hit her and his shattering words come back to her when she is alone at night in her hojara.


Excellent post Maddy.*applause*
Edited by nabiii - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55
Good epi atleast better than previous epis where we had to watch that papita face
this epi has given a small ray of hope to me.If at the end of this track it is shown that jalal was pretending then I want a strong justification for jalal's behaviour towards Jodha. I want to know did he really mean when he said "her guroor", "she doesn't deserve his love" , "she is misusing his love n freedom" n all those harsh words

about precap, why is jodha attempting suicide when she knows she is carryng two lives in her womb???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi Though i didnot see yesterdays episode but after reading other posts people may think that jodha aka pari didnit do justice to her job...not all are like rukku.screeching shouting yellling and breaking things..jodha displays her pain in an exteme way...

even in bens case wen jalal utter such words she didnt do anything nor she cried..she just took it..wen the time came she just fulfilled her responisibilties and punished jalal by leaving this world..no prayers no medicines were able to bring her back..its jalal and his pleas and love made her to come back...

here also dont no if jalal is acting or still fallen for this papita but he was too harsh on jodha yesterday.. so even after listening to such words from jalal she didnt tell anything..again she il lose all hopes and wen she wants to leave the world and jalal and wen she il be on death bed only then this jerk will realise wat blunder he made.. its only jalal can bring her back..lets see how cv's il redeem her character...

Many il not show thr hurt to others..they il act brave but inside they il die..they il remember everything for every sec and cries inside...believe me jalal is a kind of person who just shouts with out thinking and vent out his anger and pain..later repents for his actions..but jodha is opposite here..she il take everything and dies every sec inside but il not show it ohters...and punishes them badly by leaving them forver ...jodha has the guts to punish everyone..thats y i like jodha..but this time jalal went too far in hurting jodha..at the end its he who il be going through the pain wen she il be in death bed and leaving this world and jalal for ever only then this jerk il realise...

but i can feel the pain that jodha is going thru..she is dying every sec inside..no matter chahe kuch bi kare is baar jodha ko vapas lana jalal ko bohot mushkil
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi guys...seems forum has calmed down after venting out our frustrations for last few days...good discussions going on in many threads...while looking at precap for Monday, a sudden thought came to mind... And I would love to share it with u all...

I don't think she is trying to commit suicide... she is not so weak, that she ll do such thing how much devastated she is... Any other time Jalal's adultery may have caused her attempt to commit suicide, but not when she is carrying his baby...even if she sees him with Atifa in compromising position, and if she doesn't want to see his face or she wants to teach him lesson, she ll leave him, like she did in Sujamal track... but when she is pregnant, she won't even think of suicide, even if every one deserts her... Coz her kids ll always be her strength against the world... And she ll fight with anybody , even with Jalal to keep them safe...

Now someone may feel, that she is going through so many tortures , so how can she stay strong... But the fact is the same pregnancy gives a would be mother all that strength , if she needs to take the entire world head on... and in that fight of hers, she doesn't need anybody to help her , nor does she cares for anybody else's welfare , if her child is at stake... And here same thing is happening... Jalal's OTT behavior is causing her mental stress, but at same time it ll make her more protective towards her child coz right now in her view , he doesn't care even for the kids, as he is taking it granted that she won't leave him in such condition (pregnancy), nor ll she commit suicide as she has promised HB, and so he thinks he ll get the heir he always wanted all safe and sound... (I m saying this may be her point of view after his behavior yest)...and so for now her only concern is her kids, not Jalal...now she won't care a damn for him or his actions...

And in very next scene she proved it ... After crying silently when he uttered those harsh words, that same silence settled in her where he is concerned... While doing her prayers, after feeling his presence, she turned her eyes away from him not giving him ant hint of her feelings... for next few moments he kept staring at her, waiting if she again looks at him, but she didn't... even later , she was hurt by his assumption that she may not be ready to go with him... but still she didn't say a word abt it... she just told him abt the arrangements she has done, like she is now concerned abt only her duties... not a single thing more, and so she leaves without an extra word... And it looks like , he is expecting something more from her, but is upset , that for her that thing is over... So he calls her, she stops but doesn't turn, coz now she is not ready to show him any of her feelings, her emotions, her concerns... (not that he needs to hear it from her... I m sure he understands her pain even without looking at her)...he waits to see if she turns and goes to him, but again all he gets is her cold shoulder...his expressions r changed and he takes a step towards her as if to console her, but just as she feels him moving towards her, her face changes to steely determination... her eyes show that hurt but her face shows her decision... now onwards she will maintain the distance btw them, he has created... If he wants to talk her or he needs her for anything, it will be him who will have to go to her, it will be him who will have to ask for her co-operation , coz she ll be with him only for completing her duties, nothing more...

The strength I said above, was shown in her in this scene... and so I feel she won't commit suicide...abt the precap, I think after hearing abt KZ, she feels concerned for him, and so she goes to see him.. (that's why that blanket and all)...but when she goes there she finds the door open, and so she peeps inside thinking if he has been killed...and then she is abt to fall in the well, that KZ saves her... So there is no kidnapping... remains abt her devastated state, is coz she felt worried for a sec when she saw that well open, that Jalal killed KZ and committed one more sin in Ramzaan...and so when she sees KZ is well alive, and rather he saved her, so all her pent up frustration came up and she shouted at him asking why he saved her, when her own hubby doesn't care abt her...

For me yest episode and precap made this sence... am I right?

Wait for next post... Jalal and the future track...ll post after some time, or by evening...

Edited by sweet_diksha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome analysis..! Mansi
Episode looks fine without atifa..Either,cv's pulled up viewers in getting such horrible dialogues from Jalal..
JJ : It was a heated confrontation which was blazing specially from Jalal side..I agree his angry was justified towards JO , when she goes for kyber issue , whatever she should have been discussed with him before writing a letter to Rajput king..I don't know who was the actual culprit behind this letter..Coming to confrontation , She was expected to questioning him about affair with married women...rather he was burst out with extreme harsh words for JO..I felt both are them had flaws at their own stand..I can't agree with Jalal dialogues , which looks too OTT and unbearable to pacify it even though if had to do it...HIs self confession makes sense , as a king he can go for many wifes , who can marry thousands of women , but give me solid reason to give such toxic filled pressure..Does it makes any sense for him to questioning her love every time , how it looks when he spilled poisoned words , towards her ego , ..Her where ego part comes in b/w when both had a equal dimensions together...Is that a dialogue testing my love , advantage of my love , here where comes the ego..? What's necessity in testing or taking advantage from u love Jalal , indeed what she will get back it from u.?Neither she always been a root cause in building u as a person , that's a big deal isn't it..? When a person loves from heart , will never expect back anything from ur loved ones..And whatever she gave him in the form of love towards him it looks more precious than anything else in the world..She never showed her stubborn nature for good reasons only when situations goes out of control and as a king at sometime when he was failed to sort or clear out situations , there she needs to pull him up or stopping him up doing further sin or damage...Why this was tagged under ego..? Is his own ego allowing him to overshadow poor analysis of him to get person's real intentions like his BF(BEK)..Still now he couldn't get her actual ploy in which he was trying out to figure her cheap strategies in destroying his own heir ...If that named as ego what should be named for Rukaiya when he stamped him underfoot in making him as a puppet..How that looks horrible..? I don't want to compare these two status or never been compared, but he often stated her egoistic behaviour which makes me to do so..

One should turn back his own mistakes, he was the same person who humiliated her so much and tortured her like a hell ..In what way he was terming such words..I felt she showed him a right pathway in recognizing himself more than a person for what he was today..What else he needed from her..? A women always be a backbone of men's success , for Kyber issue , she should have deal with him in private other than that I couldn't get any flaws on her..More than I felt JO love looks spiritual , divine and so pure ,

There was a thin line b/w concern and ego..These two takes place only person going on unconditional trust and love..Here no need to question their love status when its going on soul connection...Rather in initial episodes we got many golden moments which was left unspoken and divine soul filled love..Now here where comes the ego and awkward reason in drifting another women..? There is no need to question or love testing each time , that shows how much U are weak in trust and relationship ...Both of them had their own flaws yesterday his dialogues looks unjustified , it looks more ferocious and furious all these days it seems , it was running inside Jalal's thoughts which was bloomed like a volcano yesterday ..Otherwise his dialogues won't go beyond incurable...I must fire dialogue writers specially for yesterday..

If Jalal acing up his own way of dealing issues then it doesn't mean to hurt ur beloved ones in tackling solutions..I guess this was one of the worst way of dealing by Jalal in reaching real culprits ..Yes..! He was trying to figure out his own people masking them out infront of everyone..That's reall good ,but this plan seems to be more unconvincing even though its his plan , after this whether he can cure it ? In case of JO who undergoing mental stress , if u want to deal with a people there are so many ways to implement , after all I want cv's to picturize solid reasons what makes him to do such terrible play...? Hopefully one episode filled with many FB scenes..I

Rest part : I loved JJ eye-lock ...later his concerned eyes for JO filled with guilt and pain...Best part , her reactions on atifa voice..I loved JO ignoring him giving fulfilled answers.. I always loved them watching as cute hate-love equation b/w them...Yesterday PS nailed out in her expressions which looks more matured and sensible status of getting actual facts as queen..She was perfect in each angle..Such a subtle way of controlled emotions which was most needed for a graceful queen to portray such scenes flawlessly..!

Edited by chocobrownies - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Amazing analysis...
Hvnt seen any episode since last week hv only relied on ur analysis...
This track is tooo disgusting to digest...whether jalal is faking or not his harsh n rude behavior towards jodha cannot be pardoned...he can't be redeemed here...no matter what justification the makers give fr his behavior bt its highly disgusting..even if hr is doing all this to keep jodha m his babies safe bt can't behave like this with her..won't forgive jalal fr his harsh words to jodha no matter te he does in the future..
Hopr jodha gives him cold.shoulder frm now onwards..he deserves it as he has always taken jodha fr granted so has his family...
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excellent post Mansi...fantastic...agree to everything u said👍🏼

Jalal is yelling at Jodha, screaming at her, hurling harsh words to her, doing everything that makes her upset...but in all this, Jalal is also suffering badly, he is also getting pained..even more than Jodha...Jodha at least can cry it out..share her pain...but Jalal is all alone in this game..!🥺

today when he was fighting with her, MA overheard it and that is why it is necessary to put up an act when every deewar has ear in Agra..! may be he was angry with the Rajkumari issue, to be frank Jodha did wrong here by sending paigam..she has good intention but the timing is wrong..Jodha wants to do everything by herself and that is why Jalal didnt share his plan with her..coz she will move heaven and earth if she has slightest hint of Jalal's life being in danger..aur sach kahu toh acchayiya acche logo ke saath kaam ata hai hai bure logo ke saath nahi...bad people will always take advantage of it.
Did u notice Jalal didnt want to answer the Papita question when Jodha was asking him..? and it took time for him to answer and he hesitated...coz its difficult for him to lie in front of Jodha..and its being more difficult for him to carry out the plan...esp. this confession he knows will rip apart her..but he had no option..so he wanted to avoid this first..confession to Papita and confession to Jodha r two different things..ek natak hai and that is mandatory..

in the ladies prayer scene I felt a divinity between Jalal and Jodha...❤️there was a beautiful BG playing...all soft and serene...the way Jalal was looking at Jodha was out of his divine love and craving...the guy is dying inside...he didnt stop there to see all the ladies like he told Salima..he stopped there to see his Jodha..he thought she wont be watching him so he could be able to see her jee bhar ke...😭

n Jalal's hojra, look how sad he was...he didnt forget his and Jodha promise to distribute zakaat to poor people..Jodha came in..he looked more sad...when she turned around and the way he called out her name, then bam! awww Jodha...she got tears...😭 aisa lagta hai barso se itne pyaar se Jalal ne usse nahi pukara...my darling Jodha😭 it was very emotional..I felt like hugging my JJ! Jalal had all the love in his voice.❤️

Mansi, yesterday we got the first clear hint of Jalal being tedha...from monday the picture will get more clearer..I too sometimes feel Salima perhaps knows all this...aisa bhi hosakta hai Jalal has taken advice from Salima and also told her to take care of Jodha in this hard time..Todarmal too knows I feel.

precap: we better watch the episode first...cant comment on one glimpse..but its strange to see Khaibar all out.

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