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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: luvbarun4ever


I agree with you mandy. I don't understand why people call zee to ask when will ruq gets punished. Lavina Rajat chemistry is awesome, you just cannot deny that. They look at ease in the shot and the director must be santaram who directs their shots. It's a well directed shot.

I don't know why but Paridhi dialogues always look preachy to me and also since she has her own director, their scenes look very dull together. Either with BD or no intensity

I want Ruq to be more positive character in the show



i completely agree with you..i think lavina has way more potential and yes the director is SV that is why ruqlal scenes look so real...akhda scenes lack luster, either the BD is used or even if she is present she is hardly there because there is something missing in her acting!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: sun29


mandy i seriously do not think they are planning on any punishment or ruqaiyya exposure about FP..coz that is long gone and it will not even make sense whatever MA does..coz jalal knows everything and he will not punish her ..now if she does something sillier i am not sure...

i liked the scene coz it made so much sense for a change...i was on the verge of drowning him in that bath tub if he had cried anymore...although it is a tragedy that he needs to be told what to do even after seeing what the enemies have done...jalal has become so passive that it seems someone has to tie him to a rope and drag him to the war...he was always compassionate from start but that never took away the warrior in him ,the just king in him...i can understand his sadness for what is happening but how is not going to war helping anyone...just like sending todarmal to death sentence and crying

cvs need to hurry and clear this mess...before the remaining audience too say bye bye to the show...

and yes at the risk of being crucified i will say it...jodha says a lot of words of which very few makes sense..and shehnaaz agreed to that ...why ruqaiyya made sense coz she used words and everyone of them made complete sense...now if the dialogue writer himself wants to mock jodha do not blame me😆



sunny well said😆..btw i have heard that zee is panicking due to fall in trps and people are bashing them for showing toddy being accused of molestation and jalal being shown weak! lets see how they rectify in a months time..otherwise this show will shut down in no time!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: mandyg



sunny well said😆..btw i have heard that zee is panicking due to fall in trps and people are bashing them for showing toddy being accused of molestation and jalal being shown weak! lets see how they rectify in a months time..otherwise this show will shut down in no time!


they so deserved it ..what nonsense did they dish out ??? and then to add salt to wound you have them praising jodha to the sky and SB has no reaction about rahim being taken for a ride...and jalal has to be told what to do ??

they better get back the smart ,strong Emperor and some sensible track if they wish to survive and get back the viewers...

instead of wasting my time on this show i watched the entire 26 episodes of ZGH in one go 😆...i adore kashaf so much
Edited by sun29 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you very much, Rashmi, and as for your very pertinent points, I agree with them in toto. As for your closing line, Hallelujah!

Shyamala


Thanks Mam for your reply.How about another epic royal love story and that too international this time by Ekta Like DianaCharles or KateWilliam.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: sun29


they so deserved it ..what nonsense did they dish out ??? and then to add salt to wound you have them praising jodha to the sky and SB has no reaction about rahim being taken for a ride...and jalal has to be told what to do ??

they better get back the smart ,strong Emperor and some sensible track if they wish to survive and get back the viewers...

instead of wasting my time on this show i watched the entire 26 episodes of ZGH in one go 😆...i adore kashaf so much



sunny, i have been giving JA only 5 mnts per day😆..majority of the scenes are sheer crap..look at maham and adham's scene they are having conversations on where to keep CB!..now who wants to hear that everyday!..poor ruk was not shown, i actually missed her!..jodha is acting as a mother or a big sis to her hubby dear and i hardly see the lover in her..no passion nor intensity..and then to top it all she brings lep🥱..now she should make a lep for his wounded dil otherwise she will have to touch him in giving him a sympathy hug😆...the only scene i watch is my rajat's solo scene and the show is over fro me in 5 minutes max!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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All- thanks so much for using this thread! I am glad it is being used. Mass response from phone; scanning from phone so apologies if missed any posts:

@Arieltabi: You asked for the Jalal lovers and look they all showed up:)

@Raksha: Hilarious take as Shyamala Aunty said. Will def go and observe the necklaces. Of course Adham is using his new found dhimaag to stay with the baandhis. Amar Chitra Katha moment was epic.

@Shreya: Hopefully our Akbar is back, woken up by Ruqaiyya.

@Shyamala Periamma: Beautiful take on the return of the Shehenshah and now I have to see the Ruqs scene; And you even managed to praise Jodha for tapping into R

@sun29: Now I definitely have to watch the Ruqs scene - I hope the CVs plan to turnaround Ruqs and have given up on her downfall

@mandyg: I hope your sources are right and the CVs try feverishly to fix the show

@Sandhya: Your addition to Ruq's dialogue was good but no way she Is ever going to criticize Jodha

@Khushi: like your Hakim Mirza theory; after the Shivani fiasco he may have been gradually brainwashed and the CVs might show MahaC doing so in flashback; Sandhya, do you think the CVs will remember how HM helped in the Ben case?

@Sush: Hopefully Jalal is back; also do not like Ruqs being punished; I like Ruq-lal scenes too. see you in Ashland soon ;)

@Rashmi: Wives advising husbands is totally fine; would love it to be more of a two way street But for now agreed, let's celebrate the return of the Shehenshah

@harrybird: the likes are all fine but where are your amazing emoticons ;)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


Shreya
Remember, Jalal was hesitant to fight BK too in the initial episodes. So it wasn't a surprise that he hesitated to fight his sis. His relatives were always his weakness. When hit by your weaknesses you do need your better half ( halves here) to pull your strings back. Just a day's hesitation-it is admissible. I do call him lallu many times. But today he wasn't. He was just pained and temporarily paralysed.


he was hesitant but he didnt escaped war. he was ready for the war, infact it was HB who came nd told him about BK's past contributions. i dont mind his better-halves to advice him but if an emperor is needed to tell tht if he doesnt fights his awam will be in trouble then thts certainly not done. he can be in pain but he cant leave evrything just like tht when he already saw tht many people had already died. during BK's time nothing like tht happened.
Edited by munnirony - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: mandyg



i so agree with you sunny! only ruk could do that and lavi was bang on with her speech..just loved it! and i do not get why the whole forum is after her getting punished..there are far more heinous criminals that need to be dealt with first..she cannot be MUZ what worst of a punishment she can get! i think if cvz plan on that they will loose further trps, as it will look out of spot now!


bcoz she is hiding maham's criminal activities. maham had killed tht bandi & ruku is the eye witness. prob is tht she exactly knows whts really needed for an emperor & gave him right advice but she forgets tht if today she hides one crime of maham, she had to do for rest of her life as well. & besides it can be dangerous in future as well. she should have informed jalal immediately bcoz ignorance of these small small things can also put jalal in trouble.
Edited by munnirony - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: sun29


mandy i seriously do not think they are planning on any punishment or ruqaiyya exposure about FP..coz that is long gone and it will not even make sense whatever MA does..coz jalal knows everything and he will not punish her ..now if she does something sillier i am not sure...

i liked the scene coz it made so much sense for a change...i was on the verge of drowning him in that bath tub if he had cried anymore...although it is a tragedy that he needs to be told what to do even after seeing what the enemies have done...jalal has become so passive that it seems someone has to tie him to a rope and drag him to the war...he was always compassionate from start but that never took away the warrior in him ,the just king in him...i can understand his sadness for what is happening but how is not going to war helping anyone...just like sending todarmal to death sentence and crying

cvs need to hurry and clear this mess...before the remaining audience too say bye bye to the show...

and yes at the risk of being crucified i will say it...jodha says a lot of words of which very few makes sense..and shehnaaz agreed to that ...why ruqaiyya made sense coz she used words and every one of them made complete sense...now if the dialogue writer himself wants to mock jodha do not blame me😆


Sunny ji
Aapne hamare munh ki baat cheen li.

The speech yesterday was fantastic. The script was precise and to the point. Straight shoot.

While Jodha's dialogues were only half effective. Esp Krishna kans parallel. Jalal only knows Krishna as God of love. And Krishna was never hesitant to kill kans. The Arjun parallel is the only apt thing now but does jalal know Mahabharat?


Even I am dismayed at the extreme swings Ruqs is given.

And what should she be punished for or exposed now? Jalal is aware of all that has happened. Unless ruqs causes Jo miscarriage there is nothing for Jalal to punish her.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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No, Mandy and Munni, it is not that at all. It the Krishna-Arjuna Geetopadesham motif imported from the Mahabharata, and this was shown in the serial just 2 weeks ago, so the CVs for Jodha Akbar must have had it fresh in their minds (such as they are!😉).

See the almost copied lines from the Bhagavad Geeta about doing one's duty without regarding any ties of affection. Only here there is a composite Krishna, a Ruqodha, and it works in the end, as it always does.

Also, Munni, don't be too hard on Jalal. He has a fit of emotional paralysis, an angst about the rightness of what he knows, in his heart of hearts, that he will have to do. But like Arjuna, he cannot find it in himself to do it, as he might have to harm his sister in the thick of battle.

After all, for Arjuna, as much or more was at stake, it was a clear dharmayuddh, he was the linchpin of the Pandava side, he hated his cousins and Karna. Yet he refused to fight in the crucial moment. and cast down his Gandiva because he did not have the heart to kill even those who had harmed him and his loved ones so much, or to face his Pitamaha Bhishma and his Guru Dronacharya, who, incidentally, were perfectly ready to fight him and his side. Even the Lord Krishna needed 18 cantos of the Geeta to make him come around, and had to show Arjuna his Vishwaroop to make him have faith in the Lord's words. So Jalal is in august company!

Shyamala/Aunty

Originally posted by: mandyg


munni, the cvz and zee are panicking now for shoving down the crap down our throats..they better show us real history with references so that people can connect to it...and jodha's mahaanta is not mentioned in history, its all NRs!



Originally posted by: munnirony

wht CVs r trying to show??? after becoming akbar jalal didnt had any emotions for his people??? he needs long dialogues from jodha & ruku to realize tht if he doesnt do war his people will die or his begums will be imprisoned???? ok he may not fight against nigaar but he wont even fight against her army??? was he really serious???



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