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Posted: 11 years ago
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My dears,

I think Honorable Women is an excellent collective moniker, which will not attract official reproofs. I am sure not many here are taken up with Julius Caesar (or Foucault either, for that matter), and so no one will report you! Tripti was saying that she was reported for calling Jodha a tomboy! Need I say more than that I was proud of having been a tomboy so long as I was in my teens?

As for the forum's notion of abusive husbands, don't let it get your blood pressure up, Adiana. The simplest solution is never to read anything at random in the forum. It is a complete waste of time, and then there is the exasperation.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: adianasr

I know Sandhya. Since the day I have seen the term abuse associated with TE I am seeing RED!!!

For all their talk of battered women, they truly don't understand abuse or the fact that it has nothing to do with gender - they all need to read Foucault!!!

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Adi

We could well have 'Bhajan Mandali replaced by 'Honourable Women'. What an apt term for an apt situation.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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" Hum Se Mat Poochho Kaise, Mandir Tootaa Sapanon Kaa
Logon Kee Baat Naheen Hai, Ye Kissaa Hain Apanon Kaa
Koee Dushman Thhens Lagaaye, To Meet Jiyaa Bahalaaye
Manameet Jo Ghaanw Lagaaye, Use Kaun Mitaye? "

Beautiful lines of a soul touching song 'Chingari koi Bhadke' dedicated to Jalal's current situation!

He roared, he screamed, he cried, he fell down like a house of cards, he broke things because he was broken, he tried to hurt her as he was hurt. But why? Because the woman who is the owner of his heart, who always hold his heart in her hands gently, never causing it any damage intentionally, now hurled his heart on the floor and not only hurled it but also smashed it under her pretty feet. This is what Jalal believed she did by remaining silent. And a smashed heart can never be treated by anyone but the one who broke it. Jalal didn't' give up, he wanted to treat his broken heart, he wanted her to take his broken heart and embrace it. To kiss away its pain and that's why he asked her again to tell him the truth, to tell him that she is paksaaf, that she also loves him, that she can hurt herself but can never see him in pain but she didn't. She gave all the wrong answers. And there Jalal gave up. What else could he have done anyway? He couldn't hurt her even though he tried to, so he set her free, he ordered her to go away from Agra.

Jalal wasn't wrong, his reactions weren't wrong, his actions weren't wrong. And for calling him a "not so good husband" or "an abusive husband", what can I say? Rama banishes Sita when a dhobi questioned her purity, even after the Agnee Pariksha, which Sita passed with flying colours and here we are having Jalal whom Dhoodhwali (Maham) tried to set against Jo so many times but still his faith in Jo remains intact, it only falls apart when Jo didn't defend herself and remained silent. Even after she said that she knows that guy from childhood and loves him, he didn't physically hurt her, yes that pulling her hair wasn't good even I didn't like it but if there would have been anyone else in his place he might have killed Jodha in one go. If that is what is called being a "not-so-good-husband" then I would say Jalal is one of those.

What can I say about Jo? I love her, yes I do, but the way she reacted or should I say didn't not react is unbelievable. Because I think a woman like Jo could have never let this matter slip from her hand. Fine let us believe she didn't understand Jalal's pain even though he was shouting in pain like anything, let also believe that all of sudden she remembered how Sujamal betrayed her Aamer, so she don't wanted to save him and remained silent on his identity but there can no explanation be given on why she let her dignity to be tarnished like this, no woman can bear this. This all is so illogical and stupid; actually the whole track from the beginning comes under this category only.

About the performance, Rajat is...I don't have words to describe him. He is a gem as I always say. Now about Paridhi, I feel pity for her; she is capable of giving good performances, sometimes is excellent and we have seen it before but this time it was all flat and I don't blame her, I blame the script. They should allow her to give her best but alas!

Aunty, your post, It is one of your best posts. It is as beautiful as an innocent baby's smile. The happiness we get from seeing a baby smile that is same happiness I get from reading your posts. And no I'm not buttering you up, Makkhan khane ke liye accha hota hai bas!😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you so much, my dear Vinita, and yes of course I remember our discussion on my last thread.

I have a great deal of affection for Jalal, but that does not prevent me from periodically lambasting him for being a compliant poodle with Jodha, and otherwise a confused, clueless, directionless lallu from time to time. I never issue blank cheques for any character!

As for your @blue, I too hope very much that it happens. It would be Jodha's coming of age.

This apart, in every love story, there is one who loves, and one who is loved.Here, Jalal is the former, the lover, and Jodha is the beloved. Good for her, but she will never love him the way he loves her, with deewaangee. It is not her fault, she simply does not have it in her. It is the same brook vs ocean thing of mine.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Great post as always Shyamalaji. I am as big a supporter of jodha as u seem to be of jalal's character and I did mention my point of view in the last post of yours. I however do agree that even though she was bound by the vachan given to sujamal who by the way I completely blame for this whole mess specialy the second vachan which could not serve any purpose at all, however jodha could have tried in a round about way to talk to jalal even of only to mention that she was innocent but bound by a promise hence unable to clarify. Now whether he would have been ready to accept anything other than the whole truth in that point of time is doubtful but she at least on her part should have tried instead of being silent.

I do hope that once the misunderstanding clears they don't forget abt jalal's confession of love n the same friendship track starts once again with both of thm praising each other n being nauseatingly sweet. The cvs have a track for forgetting their own past writings n if can be quite frustrating n I do hope that in the scene where jalal is shown apologising to jodha we also see jodha apologising for not telling him n hurting him in the process.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Adi, Sandhya, When we read so much on forum about Jalal being abusive and his outburst was compared to Domestic violence and expecting that Jalal should run behind Jodha for his abusive behaviour and Jo should act pricey before coming back to palace all makes me go😔, I Fail to understand about this feminism theory.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

At the outset, my usual statutory warning. This one, my first in 2 weeks, is NOT going to be about Jodha Akbar over these 15 days, nor even about the Friday episode as a whole.

Folly beyond comprehension: It is not going to be, if I can help it, about the asinine script, especially about the idiotic and patently dangerous vachan Jodha is forced to renew by her Sujamal Bhaisa who clearly tops her in obstinate and illogical folly .

Or about the Keystone Kops sequence of Dilawar-Sujamal running away from the Agra palace soldiery, with his khwaja sera costume coming apart, piece by piece, in a kind of bizarre strip tease😉, while he flails about with his talwar like a farmer scything hay, laying low one unfortunate Mughal soldier with each sweep.

Or about the bizarre precap, clearly intended to make Sujamal seem to be one up on Jalal, since the bodies of the soldiers - presumably despatched by him while escaping from the prison (thus adding himself to the roll of honour of Agra Palace prison escapees, up there with Abul Mali) - had been deliberately stacked up to look a taller pile than the similar one shown when Jalal was attacked by Suryabhan's soldiers when he was escaping from Amer with the badly wounded Abdul.

The precap, complete with Jalal sporting his usual furious look, coupled with the total ineffectiveness of his whole band of courtiers, succeeded in bringing the image of the Mughals down to rock bottom. It also, with obvious intent, simultaneously sought to elevate Sujamal to near mythic status as the swordsman No. 1 in all of Hindustan.

When he finally dies, after having saved Jalal's life (this privilege is by now reserved for Jodha's family - first Bhagwandas, in that incredibly inept encounter with bandits at Sujanpur, next Jodha herself, and now Sujamal😉) he will surely be decorated with a nice 24 carat halo, only a bit smaller than his sister's will be after the Grand Reconciliation next week.

Of course, in this process , Sujamal's having compounded the idiocy of his reckless khwaja sera charade (how on earth did he think he was going to unearth the conspirator?By eavesdropping on harem gossip?) by the worse folly of exposing his sister to the deepest disgrace, and punishment, by not releasing her from the vachan even when Jalal had found them together in her hoojra, will be totally forgotten.

I am not going to follow the standard practice here and issue the usual disclaimer for having, however inadvertently, hurt anyone's feeling by this take on Sujamal. Those who admire him unconditionally are free to do so. As for me, his bidding farewell to Jodha with a long, soulful look(which must have stoked Jalal's fury by another 100 degrees), and then letting her face the music from her murderously angry husband, was enough to negate any admiration of his eventual sacrifice. If he had told Jalal, even at the last minute, when the soldiers had got hold of him, who he was, and why he had embarked on this charade, so much anguish and suffering would have been spared for his beloved sister, and there would not have been any need for him to die to save Jalal either. A man who is awash with pigheaded nobility, but cannot think straight, is a walking menace, no matter how brave he might be.

Shakespearian heights: This post, folks, will be almost entirely an ode to the 11 minutes and 56 seconds of Rajat's epic Shakespearan performance that we were privileged to witness on Friday. A performance that truly deserved that mostly misused adjective, "epic".

OTT? Of course!: And before we go any further, let me dispose of the carping remarks that Jalal was over the top on Friday. Of course he was over the top! He had to be. So was King Lear raging on the heath, or Shylock raving against the injustice of the system he lived under, and so would Othello have been had he confronted his beloved Desdemona, instead of strangling her in her sleep for being, as he believed, unfaithful to him. At such times, the actor has to go over the top to convey the depths of what he wants to get across.

Those carping about him for being OTT would have been delighted with Jodha, who was decidedly UTT (under the top).

Symbiotic suffering:To revert, this was a performance that, more than ever before with Rajat as Jalal, erased the dividing line between the actor and the character, but far more difficult and thus far rarer, between the character and the viewers as well. He drew us in with him into the vortex of agony, of despair, of bitter self-contempt, of the searing hurt of the worst betrayal he could ever have suffered, that had him in its grip. And this for nearly 12 straight minutes of screen time. Which, in cinema, is an eternity.

As Rajat's Jalal turns himself inside out, as he flagellates himself to the pitch of frenzy, bleeding inside from a thousand lacerating whiplashes on his zehen, we feel his agony as our own. We suffer with him as he mocks himself, again and again, pounding his chest with bitter mirthless laughter, Kitne nasamjh the hum, kitne bewakoof!

We too hold our breath as he almost begs Jodha Begum, citing the faith he had had that she could do no wrong, the almost unbelievable patience he had shown, hoping that one day, she would come to him, trust him and tell him the truth. Humein yakeen tha ki aap kuch galat nahin kar saktin, humein yakeen tha ki shayad koyi majboori rahi hogi jiski wjah se aap yeh raaz humse chupa rahi hain..Hum har roz yeh sochte the ki shayad aap ab wo baat humein batayengi, par aap har raat jhoot bolkar is shaks se chori chupe milti rahin? Hum ne bahut koshish ki aap humein yeh baat batadein, par aapne har baar is raaz par parda dala.Kya aapko hum par itna bhi yakeen nahin tha, Jodha Begum, ki aap humein apne dil ki baat bata sakein?

Could there be any appeal more full of pain, of pathos, of a helpless emotional dependence that overwhelmed all else that a standard issue husband would have felt? Which man, not to speak of a 16th century emperor, would bend so far to coax a wife - whom he had seen consorting with a strange man outside the palace in the middle of the night, and who was now meeting the same man right in her rooms in the palace, into which he had sneaked thru a disgraceful trick - to trust him, to trust in his faith in her integrity ? Not one in a million. Not then, and not even now.

Why, any king of those days, Rajvanshi or Mughal, would have first killed the supposed paramour right in front of his wife as soon as he saw them both together, and saw the lingering look of farewell with which the stranger regarded his wife as he was dragged away. And seeing his wife looking guilty enough to invite capital punishment, he would have decapitated her as well with one sweep of his sword. That is how blind rage and jealousy work in an absolute ruler. But not with this Shahenshah-e-Hind.

He loves Jodha Begum beyond all reason, and the one desperate desire of his heart is to somehow, anyhow, convince himself, despite all appearances to the contrary, that she is as he had believed her to be, paaksaaf, not an adulteress who would invite her lover to her own rooms a few steps away from where her husband was, under the same roof.

Bitter love: He does not even hesitate, so desperate is he, to expose the deepest,the most sensitive secret of his heart: his love for her. This is not the stumbling, shy, gentle confession of the night of the dhakka. That was from a young man new to love, who wanted to share the wonder, the sheer loveliness of his unfamiliar jazbaat with his beloved.

This is distilled gall, the corrosive self-contempt of a man deeply ashamed of his weakness for a Delilah, who, he now believes, had entered his life only to destroy him by condemning him to a lifetime of agony: Aap yahan aayi thin hum par vaar karne k liye, humse badla lene ke liye. Aapne sab ke saamne imaandaar banne ka dikhawa kiya aur zeher pi liya. Aap jaanti thin ki Benazir ka zeher humein ek pal mein maar dega, par aap chahti thin ki hum har din, har pal, roz marte rahein aapke dhoke se!

Kitne nasamajh the hum ki humne apna dil aapke saamne rakha! Yeh bhi nahin dekha ki aap use todne aayi hain. Kitne nasamajh the hum ki humein laga ki aapke dil mein hamare liye koyi jagah hai...

As his bitter laughter reechoes thru the room: Kitne nasamajh the hum, hazaron begumat ke malik, Mughal sultanat ke Shahenshah, jise Zille-Ilahi kehte hain, izzat uske saamne jhukti hai, aur wo jhuka bhi to aapke saamne, usne izzat bakshi bhi to aapko! Aut aapne usi ko dhoka dediya?

Jalal's face is rigid with grief and disgust. Humara nikaah hua hai aapse, phir bhi humne aapki izaazat ke bina aapko chua nahin.Aur aapne hamari isi sharafat ka fayda uthaya?

And Rajat pours this gall all over not just Jodha, but us as well. I for one knew full well that nothing of what Jalal raged against was true, that Jodha was innocent, if incredibly foolish and self-centred. But as I listened to Rajat's Jalal lacerate himself again and again with such bitter self-contempt, such was the mesmerizing power of his performance that I felt as if a much loved child had fallen and hurt himself beyond recall. That I needed, somehow, anyhow, to pick him up and make him well again.

So I hung in there with him as he raged on against Jodha's obstinate silence, her refusal, even when she saw what her silence was doing to the husband who, by his own confession, loves her to the point of obsession, to give him the answer to his one question Who is this man and what is he to you?

As he tears into her Rajvanshi guroor, junoon, jazbe, usool, which he had always respected but which now lay in tatters. As he demands to know what it was about her that had drawn this shaks , in defiance of all those Rajvanshi mores, to his death: her love for him and/or her hatred of her husband?

Death from a thousand cuts: As he finally accuses her openly of being an adulteress, who had not let him, her legally wedded husband, come near her, touch her, establish a relationship with her, love her, and had pushed him away with a dhakkabut had invited a gair mard into her rooms. Sharm aati hai, Jodha Begum? Ek gair mard ke saath naajayaz rishta banana mein aapko sharm nahin aayi, par use qubool karne mein sharm aati hai?

I could see that in all this, it was not Jodha who was suffering the most, for despite the horrendous shock of the accusation, she was sustained by the certitude of her innocence. It was Jalal, who was being subjected to death from a thousand cuts, self-inflicted, true, but deepening and bleeding all the more with every instant of Jodha's silence that could, to him, mean only one thing, her black guilt.

It was as if a kaleidoscope had been turned upside down in his mind. Jodha's image there, as the paaksaaf, loyal, infinitely courageous hunar ki khaan he had come to love, was reversed in an instant. Now everything she had ever done, per se and for him, was seen as if thru a distorting mirror, and the image was ugly, very ugly.

..Kab se chal raha hai yeh, humare nikaah se pehle as us se bhi pehle?..Bataayiye, jab aap humse nikaah kar rahi thin, to kya wohi shaks aapke zehen mein tha? Jab aapne humein dhakka diya, toh uski wajah kya is shaks ke liye mohabbat thi? Hum aaj tak sochte aaye ki jab aapne zeher piya aur maut se ladkar wapas lautin to hamare liye, par ab humein samajh aaya ki aap is shaks ke mohabbat ki khatir wapas lautin...

And then the same bitter refrain: Kitne nasamajh the hum, kitne bewakoof the hum! Aur aap kitni shatir!

As his laments, for that is what they were, laments for a lost love that had been tainted and soiled even befor e it had blossomed, gather strength and fury, I was consumed with a sense of helplessness. And a sense of inchoate rage against the folly of the woman who sat there watching all this, seeing her lion of a husband being reduced to a self-hating wreck, with his soul poisoned by the conviction that he had given his heart at long last, but to whom? To, as her silence forced him to believe, a traitress of the worst, most deceitful, most shameless kind.

She could have turned the kaleidoscope back with an anguished protest: Hum paaksaaf hain, Shahenshah, aap hum par vishwas karein. Ek aakhri baar vishwas karein!Humne aapse koyi vishwasghaat nahin kiya. Hum abhi vachan ke bandhe hain, Shahenshah, par hum aapko kabhi dhoka nahin de sakte!

She could have grabbed his hand and held on to it no matter what he did to try and shake her off. She could have wept and raved and ranted about her innocence, and fallen at his feet in a paroxysm of self-exculpation. She could have abandoned her ego to save her love, for now she knows that he loves her, and it is her silence that is killing that love, and she knows that she loves him too.

And then which woman would let herself be accused of adultery - the worst insult imaginable, and that too from her own husband - without saying a word in her own defence? Surely this mistress of sophistry could have found some way out, some trick of language to keep her idiotic vachan and still prevent her husband from slipping into this morass of bitter anguish?

But she does nothing, and continues to stare at him with wide eyes that say nothing. I felt, even more than Jalal, like shaking her till her teeth rattled and the truth was forced out of her. Not so much for her - she had, to a large extent, brought her fate on herself - but for him. I could not bear to see him chatpatate huye like a soul in torment, hiding his suffering behind a smokescreen of rage.

So he threatens her with the most cruel death possible for the man he takes to be her paramour, and that too in front of her ; his face alight with near hatred as he asserts Humein yakeen hai ki aap royengi, aapko dard hoga. The savagery of the threat being lost in the almost pleading demand that followed Isliye keh rahein hai, jawaab dijiye humein!JAWAAB DIJIYE!!!

But it does not work, and his hand is cut as he smashes it agains the wall in rage, and it bleeds. She reaches instinctively for the bleeding hand, but he now cannot even bear her to touch him, for her very touch is as if it was acid searing his skin. So he shoves her away to the other corner of the room in a spasm of violent rejection.

The last roll of the dice: He has by now nearly exhausted every trick he could think of to get her to tell him that no, she had not betrayed him, that she had not committed zinakari, that she had not done all this, or any of this, to take revenge on him and satiate her hatred of the man who had married her against her will.

But he has not yet quite given up. He tries once more, hoping against hope that she would, even at this late stage, throw him a lifeline, and drag him out of this whirlpool into which he is sinking. Khuda ki kasam, Jodha Begum, aap batayengi to hum sunenge! He boxes her in with kasams on all those she held dear - Kanha, Kaali Maa, her parents. It is a strange echo of his earlier appeal:Agar aap mein insaniyat baaki hai, toh sach batayiye!

The very strangeness of his first question shows the extent of his desperate need to see her redeem herself, any which way. For what sense does it make for him to ask her whether she knew the man she had been meeting outside the palace at the dead of night, and now in her own rooms? He just wants her to say No, I do not know him!, however incredible that might sound. And when she does not oblige him and confesses that yes, she knows him, Jalal cannot even bring himself to do what 99 men out of a 100 would have done, hit her.

The rest follows, as the night follows the day, as Jodha confesses that yes, she had known that shaks since her childhood (why not add three words, you foolish woman, mere bhaisa hain? ), that she loves him. And so, finally, the curtain falls on this act of a Greek tragedy.

Jalal is a creature of extremes, and his emotions are all kingsize. So he roars full throatedly in his agony, as he did when his Khan Baba was no more, and takes his rage out, not on the woman who was its cause, but on the inanimate objects in the room.

Noble closure: Someone had written the other day, in all seriousness, that Jalal is an abuser who hits Jodha. I wonder which serial that person had been watching (there are plenty of hitters and slappers scattered across the other soaps on Zee). On Friday, any abusive husband would have pummelled his wife black and blue. And any king of those days, faced with such a situation, would most likely have killed her on the spot.

I was proud of Jalal, who, despite his black fury and terrible sense of betrayal, managed to contain his rage and did not take it out on Jodha.

Instead, he turns to his only refuge, bitter, self-mocking laughter at his having made himself so sharmsaar, and the Mughal sultanate as well. I have rarely seen anything as heartbreaking as the smile on his face as he tells Jodha that, and adds, Bahut hunar hain na aapme..lekin yeh badla lene ka aapka yeh hunar sabse niraala hai!

But the helplessness, the crippling sense of loss in love, wells forth again:Humein aapse mohabbat ho gayi thi , Jodha Begum.. Hum aapme ek mohabbat ki roshni dekhne lage the..Aur aapne apni zinakari se us roshni ko naapaak kar diya..

He is by now at the end of his tether, and all he wants is to get away from her presence, to escape the searing pain the very sight of her gives him. So he formally releases her from the bond of marriage with him, and tells her to leave Agra. As Jalal turns and walks out of her room, all that he feels can be seen in his body language, in the stoop of his shoulders, in the weariness of his stride.

In the closure he chooses, Jalal is being merciful far beyond the norms of those days.He does not imprison Jodha, or shame her publicly in the Diwan-e-Khas, as he might well have done. He probably feels that to do so would be a tauheen of his love for her, however soiled and betrayed that emotion might be.

There can be no greater love than this, which can forgive even the worst betrayal and stay true to itself, retaining its dignity and its depth.

Coup de Maitre:I do not how far I have been able to do justice to Rajat's coup de matre, a turn so masterly and so dazzling that it left me, for once, bereft of words, and I had to cast about to find them. Perhaps not too well, for it needed the Bard of Avon himself to describe this Shakespearian performance.

Rajat must have done it at one take; having worked himself up to that pitch, he could not have interrupted it to do the scene in parts. I am not over fond of the CVs, but I must say that for once, the script gave Rajat all that he could have asked for as a performer.

What would I not have given to see him live, on the stage, in this scene! He could never have got such a 11 minutes and 56 seconds all to himself - seeing that his heroine was mostly passive, like a prop - in any film, only in the theatre. Or in Othello, where he could have let himself go even more, seeing that his Desdemona would have been angelically asleep!

Jodha: Unbearable silence: There is nothing much I have to say about Jodha, except that I wish the script had let her go at least halfway to match the depth, the power and the fury of Jalal. As she was shown, Jodha was pathetically lacking in resourcefulness, her trademark loquaciousness, in emotion and in depth.

There should have been a helpless agony in her face and her eyes, black despair as she sees her relationship with the man she claims to love in tatters, terror at the awful fate that awaits the brother whose life she seeks to protect by adhering to the vachan he has forced on her. There should have been terrible anguish at what she was putting her husband through, the hell of the betrayal of his innermost feelings into which he has been thrown and from which only she can rescue him.

There was nothing of any of this, bar a few shots of a pleading look in her lovely, tear-filled eyes.

In fact, I do not know how much Jodha understood of the soul-searing agony her husband was going thru. Not much, judging from her reactions. This is not surprising, for as I described her once, she is like a clear, burbling brook, transparent and without any dark nooks and corners, but shallow, simple, and uncomprehending of deep passions. Her face yesterday did not indicate much grasp of what this betrayal (as he was bound to see it) by the wife he had come to love does to Jalal.

If I had been in her place, it would have been what I was doing to this husband who loves me that would have mattered the most. Besides, was that not the most sacred of the vachans she had ever taken, her marriage vow that for her, her husband , jis se hi uska soubhagya hai, would come above all else? How is it that she has either forgotten that vachan, or ranks it below the one now forced on her by her Bhaisa? Strange and totally incomprehensible.

Most of all, Jodha should have had something substantive, telling, convincing, and appealing to say in her own defence, and to try and rescue Jalal from his raging depression. This is, after all, the bhashan ki malika, the woman who could, by a clever play on words that defied logic but sounded convincing, managed to get the besotted Jalal time and again to do what he was dead against - about Bakshi Banu, about Sharifuddin, about Tasleem. It seems that this hunar too has failed her at the most crucial moment, just as Karna, in the heat of the battle against Arjuna at Kurukshetra, could not remember the mantra for the Brahmastra.

The editing of Jodha's shots was also bewildering at times. When Jalal is declaiming about the hazaar begumaat in his harem, and lists the various reasons for which he married them, ending with bachpan ki dost, ie Ruqaiya, Jodha stares at him with shock and fear in her eyes. Why on earth would she look afraid at that point?

Then again, when he says, at the very end, Humein aapse mohabbat ho gayi thi, Jodha Begum, she is completely out of sync, still nodding her head in negation from the previous shots, and they retained that!

Apart from her pretty much solo emotion shots throughout, the way she cries at the very end, after Jalal has left, is very odd. Here was an occasion which called for grand tragedy, for stormy wailing and lamentations, and Jodha sounds, with her Aanh..aanh..aanh, for all the world, to quote my young friend Anne (AJSharma79), as if she had failed in her mid-term exams!

Paridhi should take the CVs and the director to task for having shortchanged her so badly in such a major, climactic, demanding scene. She would not have been able to match Rajat at his superb best, true, but with a good script, she would have done vastly better than she was allowed to do on Friday.

The Great Vachan Factor: There has been a lot written about Jodha's helplessness because of the vachan she had given Sujamal. Leaving aside the overriding loyalty she should have had to her marriage vows, as noted above, let us see the logic of what Jodha does.

She was forced to take that vachan on her brother's head, and the reason she clings to it is because he will, she believes, die if she breaks it. It is this belief that underlies the weight attached to a vachan/kasam.

What was Sujamal's original reason, tenuous as it was, for the vachan he had made Jodha take? That Jodha should not get into trouble by being seen to meet an enemy of the Mughal sultanate. Now, that vachan has been renewed, her hand on his head, for exactly the same reason , unhe tum par sandeh ho jayega.

But once Jalal has seen the fake khwaja sera in Jodha's rooms, all this went automatically out of the window, and there was no longer any rationale for this vachan . Sujamal, who is presumably not a dunce, should have realised at once what Jalal was bound to think as soon he saw them together, if he was not told that Sujamal was her brother. Why, if Bharmal has seen a strange man in his daughter's rooms, he would have executed both the daughter and the intruder. Remember his reaction to Jodha's moonlight boatride with Suryabhan, her fiance? He wanted to strangle her.

Anyone, Rajvanshi or not, would know what any husband would think of his wife under such circumstances if the situation was not clarified at once. So why does Sujamal not release Jodha from the vachan at once? Instead, he departs after a long, soulful look at Jodha that, as noted above, must have raised Jalal's fury by 100 degrees.

Let us for a moment leave aside Sujamal's unbelievable folly in leaving her to face the music from a murderously angry husband. Let us stick to Jodha alone. Why does she not ask Sujamal to release her from the vachan, since the situation was bound to be fatal for him if she stayed silent?

For if she keeps quiet, she is condemning the very brother whose life she wants desperately to save - which is why she will not break the vachan - not just to certain death, but to the most horrendously painful death that Jalal can think up, and this in front of her.

Whereas, if she confesses that he is her brother and also why he came into the palace as a khwaja sera, all will be well. Maybe Sujamal will get a token punishment, but his life will be saved, not to speak of Jodha's honour and her nascent relationship with Jalal.


So how does what Jodha is doing make any sense? I am here leaving out entirely the terrible anguish she is inflicting on the husband who, she now knows from his own mouth , loves her. Anguish that is tearing him apart, and will do so for the rest of his life unless he learns the truth somehow.

As noted above, Jalal might well have killed her on the spot as an adulteress. Most kings of that ear, Mughal or Rajvanshi, would have done precisely that.

Now, how much time would it have taken her to say Woh mere Sujamal Bhaisa hain aur woh mujhe batane aaye the ki mahal ke andar hi koyi aapki jaan lena chahta hai.? 10 seconds? She is never at a loss for long, edifying, convoluted speeches. Why not blurt out this one single line and save her Bhaisa's life and her own honour? Instead, she behaves exactly like the worst kind of 1960s Hindi film heroine.

What lies ahead: I simply do not care, I am afraid. The last part of the Friday episode was back to the old format, with Jalal pacing furiously up and down the Diwan-e-Khas, and then running to dispatch Sujamal, looking exactly like the Energiser bunny. The last shot of his glaring eyes as he contemplates that pile of corpses, so artistically arranged, was hardly edifying.

I preferred to go back of the 11:56 minutes of the previous segment, harrowing as it was. I hope The Great Reconciliation Scene is not too mawkish, and that Jodha is given something substantial to do there at least. I have grown fond of her from her Kajri days, and I want that girl back!

The New Promo: One pertinent point, especially for those waiting with bated breath for The Kiss. If Jalal is going to kiss Jodha, he is going to have to figure out in advance how to deal with her cartwheel of a nose ring. I do not see how anyone could kiss a woman sporting that thing.😉

And in the final Grand Embrace scene in the promo, Jalal, who is only as tall as Jodha , looks to be a good half a head taller. This is probably what is meant by her helping his all round growth!😉

Shyamala B. Cowsik



AUNTY I M JST SPEECHLESS. DONT HAVE ADJECTIVES IN MY DICTIONARY TO PRAISE SUCH A MASTER PIECE👏 ABT JODHA'S SILENCE I JST WANT TO SAY " VINASH KALE VIPRIT BUDDHI"
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Thank you, my dear Krishi.

Taking advantage of my seniority in years, may I offer a small piece of advice, unsought though it might be?

Never doubt your own judgment, or your heart. March to the beat of your own drummer (yes, it is a cliche, but a true one!).

One drifts towards Jalal not because one is prejudiced in his favour but because, as a character, he is greater and nobler than Jodha, who is like a small town girl of very limited vision. He has an innate sense of justice, generosity and a tremendous sense of responsibility. See how, amidst all the tension and rush, he instructs that the scalded soldier should be taken to the hakim .

On Friday, Rajat made Jalal more than superlative. It was heartbreaking, and there can be no greater praise for an actor, or the character he brings to life.

Shyamala

PS: First Vyjayantimala and now Asha Parekh! I am on a roll!!

Originally posted by: knumnum

As usual lovely post Shyamala👏

U kno wat, since this track started, I was slowly drifting towards Jalal and against Jodha. But seeing members here support Jodha so much (except Adia, Jeannie, Sandhya, Shweta, fatma, Trips), I started doubting myself ki kaash mein partial tho nahi ho rahi hoon towards Jalal and tat I am failing to understand another woman's POV🤔

But after reading ur post, I am relieved to see that I am not prejudiced in this😆.

I saw the eppy today 3 times and man, wat a performance. I had only one wish tats unfulfilled, during all that ranting and shouting I wished one lone tear wud fall from Jalal's eyes. Tat wud hv snatched it for me. But still one cud see the dampness in Jalal's eyes through out the confrontation. And I felt so sad, mad and bad.

I don't want to talk abt Jodha/Paridhi cos thr is not much to talk abt her and everyone else here have already said abt her.

I wish I could do the "Eternal Sunshine of spotless mind" to Jalal. It was tat heartbreaking to see him so down.

- Krishi

P.S: Hope u get well soon
P.P.S: U look like Asha Parekh in ur profile pic😃

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The mistake you all make, my dears, is to read so much across the forum. Tell me, what is the point of doing it? It gets your blood pressure up, it upsets you, and there is nothing you can do about it for there is no way of convincing those who are determined not to be convinced. It is a total waste of time.

Why do you not stick to my prescription and read only the threads of a few known writers? It will do you a lot of good.

As for this brand of feminism,. I suspect it is wish fulfillment, for the sort of thing that is very difficult to get in real life, a poodle type boyfriend. Let them write what they like, why do you bother about it? Rajat and his Jalal will continue to dominate the show. That is all that matters, and if Jodha can go back to her Kajri avatar, that will be sone pe suhaga!

As for Jodha "coming back to the palace", she never leaves it. The new promo is clearly in her hoojra. Maybe she overslept, after all the strain of staring at him for those 12 minutes,😉 and Jalal came rushing in before she had had time to pack her bags for the vanvaas. I am planning to stage a sit in in the Zee offices to protest against being deprived of the vanvaas, with all the nirdosh pashu pakshi welcoming their saviour, while Mohan's relatives plan to have her for dinner!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Adi, Sandhya, When we read so much on forum about Jalal being abusive and his outburst was compared to Domestic violence and expecting that Jalal should run behind Jodha for his abusive behaviour and Jo should act pricey before coming back to palace all makes me go😔, I Fail to understand about this feminism theory.

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Thank you, Munni, and as is often the case, I agree with all that you have said here.

As for the part @red, I have pointed that out repeatedly in the post, and it is 100% true. As for the abuse charge, if they did any such things like Jodha's midnight trysts with their spouses, it would be interesting to see how many of them preserve a complete commitment to ahimsa. That would be today, and this is a 16th century emperor.

It is the same about the part @blue, I had emphasised it too, and suggested what she could and should have done, but did not.

As for Jodha it is not just that the actress was overshadowed by Rajat. She was blank per se. I do not know if it was the direction and the script that were at fault, but If Rajat had received even some support from her, the scene would have been enhanced.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: munnirony

once again brilliant analysis aunty. i know many people thought rajat was over the top, but tht was the scene where he needed to be over the top. Friday's jalal was an emperor, he is a husband & also a passionate lover who is madly in love with jodha. its easy to term jalal's behavior as abuse, but if he was really a abuser he would have physically exploited jodha till now(srry for the comment). i know this show is all about halo the rajvanshis, but the reality is any rajvanshi husband would have just killed his wife by now.

now regarding jodha's behavior, let me for a sec forget about jalal's emotions, but let analyse from the feminism point of view. will a respectable woman go dumb if sumone questions her character??? jodha was always shown as brave princess, then how can she tolerate those words??? as a woman she should have screamed & shouted a big "no". she can give all those bhashans about bandis, khwajas, nirdosh pasu pakshi etc. but cant shout a "no"???? even with the vachaan she could have at least said tht & things should have fallen in place automatically.


rajat was brilliant as usual, paridhi was gud as well but the prob is tht rajat has a bad habit of over shadowing others. even if he is totally without dialogues, he can attract people just by his expressions. & obviously the script which was for rajat, he will always over shadow others. paridhi is a very gud & a talented actress but her acting is limited to the script only, but rajat always adds his own input. now those inputs can be a hit or a miss, but from the PRC days only he not only plays the character but lives it.😊

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Aunty,
Thanks for one of the finest posts. But not all of what we can adore and praise Rajat can do full justice to his terrific performance on Friday. But your post has almost.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

Or about the Keystone Kops sequence of Dilawar-Sujamal running away from the Agra palace soldiery, with his khwaja sera costume coming apart, piece by piece, in a kind of bizarre strip tease😉, while he flails about with his talwar like a farmer scything hay, laying low one unfortunate Mughal soldier with each sweep.

His vertical descent was the highlight. One could well search for spider-man webs or super-man cape or krishh mask. I have always defended Sujamal and used to be angry with Teapot that he snatched his nephew's rights for his son... but not since his entry into the Agra palace as an eunuch. While his intentions were for good, his very concept and planning made no sense. No wonder Teapot who is a practically shrewd and crafty chap deprived Suja of the throne and Jodha who is equally full of good and noble intentions, but has not an iota of practical wisdom adores him.
Or about the bizarre precap, clearly intended to make Sujamal seem to be one up on Jalal, since the bodies of the soldiers - presumably despatched by him while escaping from the prison (thus adding himself to the roll of honour of Agra Palace prison escapees, up there with Abul Mali) - had been deliberately stacked up to look a taller pile than the similar one shown when Jalal was attacked by Suryabhan's soldiers when he was escaping from Amer with the badly wounded Abdul.

The precap, complete with Jalal sporting his usual furious look, coupled with the total ineffectiveness of his whole band of courtiers, succeeded in bringing the image of the Mughals down to rock bottom. It also, with obvious intent, simultaneously sought to elevate Sujamal to near mythic status as the swordsman No. 1 in all of Hindustan.

...while I didn't find the actor's swordsmanship even half as good as Todar Mal and not even a tenth of Jalal's. If he is so capable of defeating thousands of soldiers as a one-man army in the heart of the Mughal Capital, in the Emperor's palace, why didn't he vanquish the small band of Shariffu and his men post Amer-Shariffu war when Shariffu double-crossed him or conquer Amer himself?
When he finally dies, after having saved Jalal's life (this privilege is by now reserved for Jodha's family - first Bhagwandas, in that incredibly inept encounter with bandits at Sujanpur, next Jodha herself, and now Sujamal😉) he will surely be decorated with a nice 24 carat halo, only a bit smaller than his sister's will be after the Grand Reconciliation next week.
Hope Jalal is not made to fall at his feet too.

Of course, in this process , Sujamal's having compounded the idiocy of his reckless khwaja sera charade (how on earth did he think he was going to unearth the conspirator?By eavesdropping on harem gossip?) by the worse folly of exposing his sister to the deepest disgrace, and punishment, by not releasing her from the vachan even when Jalal had found them together in her hoojra, will be totally forgotten.

How did Suja think that Jalal will not associate him with Jodha,(of her having helped him if not an affair actually) after he has directly seen him with Jodha's hands on his heads?
Shakespearian heights: This post, folks, will be almost entirely an ode to the 11 minutes and 56 seconds of Rajat's epic Shakespearan performance that we were privileged to witness on Friday. A performance that truly deserved that mostly misused adjective, "epic".

OTT? Of course!: And before we go any further, let me dispose of the carping remarks that Jalal was over the top on Friday. Of course he was over the top! He had to be. So was King Lear raging on the heath, or Shylock raving against the injustice of the system he lived under, and so would Othello have been had he confronted his beloved Desdemona, instead of strangling her in her sleep for being, as he believed, unfaithful to him. At such times, the actor has to go over the top to convey the depths of what he wants to get across.

Those carping about him for being OTT would have been delighted with Jodha, who was decidedly UTT (under the top).

Oh! She just stood like another of those decorative jars in the room. The actress who is usually good came a cropper, and more so since she was juxtaposed against one of the finest, brilliant-est performers in one of his most exceptional performances.
Symbiotic suffering:To revert, this was a performance that, more than ever before with Rajat as Jalal, erased the dividing line between the actor and the character, but far more difficult and thus far rarer, between the character and the viewers as well. He drew us in with him into the vortex of agony, of despair, of bitter self-contempt, of the searing hurt of the worst betrayal he could ever have suffered, that had him in its grip. And this for nearly 12 straight minutes of screen time. Which, in cinema, is an eternity.

As Rajat's Jalal turns himself inside out, as he flagellates himself to the pitch of frenzy, bleeding inside from a thousand lacerating whiplashes on his zehen, we feel his agony as our own. We suffer with him as he mocks himself, again and again, pounding his chest with bitter mirthless laughter, Kitne nasamjh the hum, kitne bewakoof!

Could there be any appeal more full of pain, of pathos, of a helpless emotional dependence that overwhelmed all else that a standard issue husband would have felt? Which man, not to speak of a 16th century emperor, would bend so far to coax a wife - whom he had seen consorting with a strange man outside the palace in the middle of the night, and who was now meeting the same man right in her rooms in the palace, into which he had sneaked thru a disgraceful trick - to trust him, to trust in his faith in her integrity ? Not one in a million. Not then, and not even now.

Why man aunty, which woman, (any of the feminists?) would trust her husband of fidelity and integrity after they see him sneak into a hut with another girl in the dead of the night and then see that very girl in his bedroom with his hand upon her head? AND if he refuses to offer an explanation? All this after he has been a touch-me-not ?
I could see that in all this, it was not Jodha who was suffering the most, for despite the horrendous shock of the accusation, she was sustained by the certitude of her innocence. It was Jalal, who was being subjected to death from a thousand cuts, self-inflicted, true, but deepening and bleeding all the more with every instant of Jodha's silence that could, to him, mean only one thing, her black guilt.
She knew that his accusations were untrue. One word from her would silence him. He has admitted himself to loving her to the exclusion of all others ...against his earlier resolve, against his reasoning and inspite of himself. So her pain and suffering is limited to her inability to declare the truth because of the vachan.... which this storehouse of hunars and queen of speeches couldn't assure Jalal of even indirectly.
But Jalal's pain was terrible. A thousand times more than what he felt when he said that 'I never thought aap itni gir sakthi hain' after Ruqaiya's Miscarriage...as much water had flown under the bridge and his love and respect for her had grown by leaps and bounds after vishpan and his FS trip as badal-kajiri. Like a weary traveller in the desert who is overjoyed on seeing water only to find that it was a mirage. His heart bled at what he thought was her treachery. The girl whom he thought was the light of love in his life , whom he allowed to enter the deepest corners of his heart that he refused entry even to his childhood friend...turned out to be a conspirator who had come to give him the deepest pain... to find his weakest spot and crush him there...to take revenge in the most underhand manner and to his utter horror dismay and agony...he had believed her and he had loved her. Jalal was burning in the fire of self-pity, despair, loss, helplessness inspite of being the Imperial Monarch, swelling grief, blind rage at his own folly of having fallen a victim of deceit, indignation of having been cheaply sidelined by his own wedded wife for the sake of a gair mard, misery at his own weakness called love from which he had managed to keep himself safe all these years only to falter and fall now.
This man was in more pain that anyone could ever be and the actor brought out the pain most forcefully.

There can be no greater love than this, which can forgive even the worst betrayal and stay true to itself, retaining its dignity and its depth.

Jalal's love for Jodha is undoubtedly epic though I doubt if the reverse will ever be true.
Coup de Maitre:I do not how far I have been able to do justice to Rajat's coup de matre, a turn so masterly and so dazzling that it left me, for once, bereft of words, and I had to cast about to find them. Perhaps not too well, for it needed the Bard of Avon himself to describe this Shakespearian performance.

Rajat must have done it at one take; having worked himself up to that pitch, he could not have interrupted it to do the scene in parts. I am not over fond of the CVs, but I must say that for once, the script gave Rajat all that he could have asked for as a performer.

What would I not have given to see him live, on the stage, in this scene! He could never have got such a 11 minutes and 56 seconds all to himself - seeing that his heroine was mostly passive, like a prop - in any film, only in the theatre. Or in Othello, where he could have let himself go even more, seeing that his Desdemona would have been angelically asleep!

Rajat's performance was truly theatrical and awesome and ofcourse epic. His pain could be felt even by a casual viewer of the show. Such was the power of his performance. - the boiling fuming fury on his face when he sees Suja in Jo's chambers with her hand on his head - his anger and pain at her mistrust as he says ' humne har bar koshish ki aur aapne har bar is raaz par parda dala' - his utter disbelief when he screams 'ab bhi khaamosh hain aap' - his lived rage when de demands 'sach bathaiye hamein' - his anguish and quick change of expression from anger to helplessness when he says 'jaanthi hain kyun...kyunki haemin aaj tak mohabbat nahin hui thi Jodha Begum' - his icy scathing tones as he says ' haemin yakeen hain aap royengi' and ' sharam aa rahi hai aapko jodha begum'- his height of despair and the hurt of rejection and the feeling of being unwanted by the girl whom he wanted the most as he says 'Bataayiye,kya yahi wajah hai jo aapne haemin aappar haq jamane nahin diya, aapke paas nahin aane diya, aapko choone nahin diya ? aapse mohabbat nahin karne di, aapke saath rishtha nahin banane diya, lekin hamara itna haq zaroor hai jodha begum ki hum jawab jaan sakein'. He was literally jumping with anger.
He had considered her vishpaan as the ultimate proof of her love for him, which he might make her ultimately admit someday, but now at the face of the turn of events it shatters his heart to a million pieces when he thinks that that too might be a calculated piece of revenge to give him torturous and long lasting agony. Rajat was tearfully angry when he said Hum aaj tak sochte aaye ki jab aapne zeher piya aur maut se ladkar wapas lautin to hamare liye, par ab humein samajh aaya ki aap is shaks ke mohabbat ki khatir wapas lautin...
When he banged his head with 'kitne nasamajh they hain hum, kitne bewakoof they hum' you could feel the suffering as if it were your own. There are those actors who can invoke your extreme pity and tears with their soulful sorrowful performance. But this is an actor who can make you cry even with his anger. 'I kept my heart in front of you and failed to see that you have come to break it' - what a voice modulation here - utter acute suffering - as he utters 'aap use thodne aayi hain'.
His mock bending as he says - 'I bowed only to you, when the world bows to me' , his heartbreak as he speaks of her taking advantage of his sharafat, his wild frenzy as he hurts his hand, his begging for a favourable answer that would relieve him of his unbearable agony when he says ' I promise, I will listen to you' his every question to which he hopes against hope will fetch a negative response and his wild anger at his each hope being dashed - finally his tearful painful heart wrenching admittance that he loved her and she broke his heart and his mock clapping at her hunars and the extreme pain, frustration and exhaustion with which he asks her to leave, still unable to punish her as his love for her was stronger than his hurt at her betrayal.
He was shattered like Caeser when he saw Brutus drive his sword into him. As MA understands, his heart was shattered like glass into a thousand pieces - how well the actor portrayed. What a range of expressions, what modulations, what a well written script that gave full scope for the display of the spectrum of emotions and Rajat Tokas was perfect. He is not just a star. He is the aaftaab of the show, all the others are just like planets who reflect his light. There is no JA without him.
As I had stated in your previous post, this was one of my four best performances by Rajat in the show. The wedding talks with Bharmal - a terrific display of wicked cunningness and the dhakka episode - hesitant expression of first love and Jalal's prayer at the Mazhar- one of extreme suffering and surrender, and yesterday's of extreme rage and pain and a feeling of defeat and loss.
If we were to get to view such a performance once in a while it is worth weeks and weeks of tripe and hail heroine formula.
Jodha: Unbearable silence: There is nothing much I have to say about Jodha, except that I wish the script had let her go at least halfway to match the depth, the power and the fury of Jalal. As she was shown, Jodha was pathetically lacking in resourcefulness, her trademark loquaciousness, in emotion and in depth.
The Bhaashan Queen zips her lips when she HAD to talk!😡 Why didn't she fight for her righteousness. Didn't she have it in her to use alternate words to keep the vachan intact and yet convey the truth. Not this much hunar? What does her silence achieve - her brother's life endangered, her husband's pain agony and suffering of the worst kind (whom she has just realised she loves and who has just declared loves her too) and her own name tarnished. I would have applauded her had she run behind him and fought for justice. Did only nirdosh balaks, pashu pakshis baandhies and Khwaja Seras alone matter?

I preferred to go back of the 11:56 minutes of the previous segment, harrowing as it was. I hope The Great Reconciliation Scene is not too mawkish, and that Jodha is given something substantial to do there at least. I have grown fond of her from her Kajri days, and I want that girl back!

Me too. Looks like we will...in the Mathura track. She is relieved of her 20kg jewellery which perhaps relieves her of her permanently staid look as a begum.

The New Promo: One pertinent point, especially for those waiting with bated breath for The Kiss. If Jalal is going to kiss Jodha, he is going to have to figure out in advance how to deal with her cartwheel of a nose ring. I do not see how anyone could kiss a woman sporting that thing.😉

He safely chooses the other cheek!😆

Shyamala B. Cowsik


Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Shyamala great post as usual, you deserve all the accolades just like Rajat does for portraying Jalal's pathos, pain, hurt, a feeling of betrayal, for the insult he felt about his love for Jodha!!!
I will not say much about Rajat's performance, you said it all. 👏

I went through some of the posts in the forum about how insensitive Jalal was when he was pulling Jodha's hair or shoved her and she cried in pain and how undeserving Jalal is as a husband and how he doesn't deserve Jodha as his wife. 😲

Reading these posts really keeps me away from the forum these days! Many have written against such notions and I wondered all these young girls wearing glasses of feminism is watching a historical epic story of the 16th century with no idea about how the society worked then and specially the story of the Mughal emperor belonging to an orthodox and conservative dynasty. None of these people thought what Jalal was or how single handedly he stood out from that dynasty when he poured his heart out to Jodha and then let her go, freed her from himself, let her live without slaying her which any king or emperor would have done back in those days be it Rajvanshi or Mughal. So all of you who were wondering whether Jalal would be a husband material that Jodha or any other girl should deserve should think it from this POV. He let his ego go, his pain go, his identity go, his love go, his soul go...he freed her without avenging her for his pain and betrayal.

Even a girl who is not married will face these accusations from her parents if they found her meeting a stranger night after night all alone without revealing as to why she is doing it. And husbands, parents and wives of this modern age will also ask questions if they found their other half doing the same act hiding and concealing as to why they are doing so. All I can say to these naive girls is 'good luck' for your future! Hope you all find the husband material you all are looking for because the doormats look good outside the door of your room not if you wear them making a part of yourself. It starts to irritate by pricking and itching! Sigh!

And to top this Jalal will be shown repenting falling on his knees asking for forgiveness from Jodha and her halo will be glowing brighter and healthier showing how pure and chaste her love always was. Will I also hear an apology from her? I will be immensely surprised if I do. And if she does the whole forum will either protest as to why she did so or rave and sing praises of her 'mahaanta'!

Sorry to say, the CV's to portray the honor of a promise of the Rajvanshis has made them look utterly and stupendously foolish to the gravest degree. Sujamal specially, along with Jodha are shown as extremely dense and thick headed in dire situations of life and death. I am surprised the Karni sena didn't protest seeing such foolishness on part of Rajvanshis!

And this particular comment will get stones coming my way but Paridhi failed big time on Friday as far as acting is concerned. She is a good actress and whenever she has to portray anger or being rude to Jalal she is beyond compare but when she had to portray the hurt and pain she failed completely. She was good as Kajri also toning herself down to a marked degree and showed her softer side too but Friday was an utter disappointment to me. If the CV's were to blame for not giving her the opportunity to speak then one should give double effort to portray the inner feelings through eyes. All I could see was the look of disbelief from her all throughout! No indignation, no feeling of insult, no rage, no repentance, no admonishing herself, no dilemma in her mind as to what to do or say, no angst against Sujamal for putting herself in that spot, no effort to calm Jalal, no effort to even say something without betraying her promise...there was NOTHING, simply a blank look which conveyed nothing!

Even when Jalal poured his heart about loving her all she did was close her eyes nodding her head!! 2 seconds would be required to answer 'yes I love him like a brother'. When asked by Jalal whether she loved the stranger all she nneded to answer was, 'Haan, bhai jaisa', that was all! If an actor gets one line or just one second of close profile they will pour their 101% in that one second to convey their talent and caliber and here all those moments that was focused on Jodha only gave us looks of despair and disbelief which made me feel disappointed and angry, I can imagine what Jalal must have felt seeing that look. I really felt Paridhi just failed big time in her acting in that scene.

And yes part of the blame goes to CV's as well. First of all nonsensical promise which makes no sense in that situation, bad script or no script as far as Jodha was concerned, bad track to convey Jalal's utter trust and devotion to Jodha which will follow now and I am sure as usual Maham will get away scotfree from all this without any question asked so that she can plot again for her next scheme.

I even fail to understand as to why she is against Jodha so much, just because once a maid told her how she will bow to a hindu begum!!! Makes no sense to me! Anyway who am I to the CV's, they need omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent antagonist all the time to keep the female protagonist look 'bechari' and 'mahaan' and in this process the male protagonist is made to look like an utter fool.

And Sandhya as to what you wrote here Jalal survived even before Jodha was in his life but you fail to see what the CV's right from the beginning is trying to convey. Yes Jalal was the emperor but a cruel and heartless one, ek janwaar tha woh jisse insaan banaya Jodha ne. So there you go, he survived yes but learned to live like a human being only after Jodha came along in his life and taught him about all the virtues of life! 🥱

Anyway fantastic tribute to Rajat's performance. 👍🏼 And I now feel great in putting my 2 cents. 😃 Fabulous post like always!

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